ALERT Patriot Party files FEC notice of joint fundraising with Donald J. Trump for President Inc. (VOA)
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naegling62
Veteran Member
Yes, but that answer leaves us like Syria, Iraq and soon to be Iran. I would rather not go down that path just yet.
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
Well they are destroying themselves...the real point should be to destroy the Socialist / Demoncrap scum.
naegling62
Veteran Member
True, but we lost that political action because Republicans have been all talk and no action. We lost playing on the Republican side so we must try from a different angle.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Item--Third Parties do NOT do well when the main 2 are evenly matched. It takes a LOT of discord and a lot of shuffling and movement in public for a third party to gain enough traction to grow. And boy-howdy do we have discord tonight.
Item--It takes FOUR YEARS MINIMUM to establish a 3rd party to be able to run a legitimate campaign against the other 2 parties. And the START is to gain over 10% of the vote in local/county/statewide elections.
First year you have to show up in local/city elections, and county as well as state house elections (10% would be a HUGE credibility threshold).
Next year you MUST have more than 10% of the vote, REGARDLESS of success in electing anyone. OF COURSE it would be HUGE to elect House Candidates and a Senator or 2 but the 10% Nationally is the threshold.
Third year you should be targeting 20-30% nationally with respectable showings in State races. At this point, in the third year is where you start on National Elections, doing it the old fashioned way. Targeting House and Senate incumbents, and running a HUGE old fashioned Ground Game...door knocking and button handing out, hand shaking, EVERYTHING that Xiou Bai-Den did NOT do this year.
The 4th year has a LOT of moving parts===-->
Yes, I left a HUGE amount out, Party Name recognition, Candidate Name Recognition, Advertising, and all the rest of the nuts and bolts of a successful campaign.
I'd be happy to discuss the Chinoiserie with anyone who can pony up the right amount of the right measures of REAL wealth.
This IS what I trained to do as an Undergrad.
And while I'm kinda cheap I ain't free.
2024 AIN'T GONNA LOOK like ANY campaign we have seen in the past 40 years, as at least the NEW party is going to have to be doing old fashioned things.
Item--It takes FOUR YEARS MINIMUM to establish a 3rd party to be able to run a legitimate campaign against the other 2 parties. And the START is to gain over 10% of the vote in local/county/statewide elections.
First year you have to show up in local/city elections, and county as well as state house elections (10% would be a HUGE credibility threshold).
Next year you MUST have more than 10% of the vote, REGARDLESS of success in electing anyone. OF COURSE it would be HUGE to elect House Candidates and a Senator or 2 but the 10% Nationally is the threshold.
Third year you should be targeting 20-30% nationally with respectable showings in State races. At this point, in the third year is where you start on National Elections, doing it the old fashioned way. Targeting House and Senate incumbents, and running a HUGE old fashioned Ground Game...door knocking and button handing out, hand shaking, EVERYTHING that Xiou Bai-Den did NOT do this year.
The 4th year has a LOT of moving parts===-->
Yes, I left a HUGE amount out, Party Name recognition, Candidate Name Recognition, Advertising, and all the rest of the nuts and bolts of a successful campaign.
I'd be happy to discuss the Chinoiserie with anyone who can pony up the right amount of the right measures of REAL wealth.
This IS what I trained to do as an Undergrad.
And while I'm kinda cheap I ain't free.
2024 AIN'T GONNA LOOK like ANY campaign we have seen in the past 40 years, as at least the NEW party is going to have to be doing old fashioned things.
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
We "lost" because the other side rigged the election.
We didnt lose, they just made it look that way.
Get used to the idea this is real, nothing is going back to the way it was unless we take measures to rid ourselves of the Communist horde.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Only as far as state wide elections or national elections go. Locally it still seems to work. Not sure how long though.
RB Martin
Veteran Member
There is no way for this Patriot Party to win in a three way race. The Democrats will win 50% or at least more than 40%. Then 60% would be split between the other two, effectively ensuring losses for the foreseeable future.
We need to destroy or completely take over the Republican Party. We can't have the RINO traitors remain. We can win in a two-way fight.
naegling62
Veteran Member
The RINO'S are the Republicans. Yes, the Patriot Party can't win but it will help destroy those that betrayed us. Democrats did their job. The Republicans did their job also, they lost. They threw the election by letting the steal go unchallenged.
Jonas Parker
Hooligan
Wasn't it former Vice President Spiro Agnew who made the remark about "nattering nabobs of negativity"? That could be a new "Special Interest Group" here at TB2K for all of the "woe is us" crowd!
The Republicans will split and reform. Which pieces go with which group and which groups survive is the only question. Its easy to build 30 percent but 51 percent is a bigger wall. There is another map where more middle of the road Democrats and Independents vote for a new/reformed party candidate (30/30/40). It will be an interesting 4 years.
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
It isn't "Woe is us" it is however reality.
Perhaps it has not sunk in yet.
THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING.
There is no voting your way out of Socialism.
Do you know of ANY country that has ?
marsh
On TB every waking moment
[COMMENT: I have read that he is backing off the idea of establishing his own party because it conflicts with his other strategy of "primarying" RINO Republicans.]
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Shock poll: Trump 'Patriot Party' would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place
Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated "very conservative voters" — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.
Former President Trump crosses field before Army-Navy football game, West Point, Dec. 12, 2020. (Brendan Smialowski/Getty)
By Daniel Wattenberg
Updated: January 25, 2021 - 2:04pm
A hypothetical "Patriot Party" led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen.
The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.
A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation's dominant party — even without majority support.
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Just the News Daily Poll
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Among "very conservative" voters — who make up a disproportionately large bloc within the Republican primary electorate — a Trump Patriot Party crushes the GOP 55%-24%. Should Trump remain in the GOP, his wide lead among these highly motivated voters affords him great leverage to influence the direction of the party by wielding the threat of conservative primary challenges against establishment Republicans ill at ease with the former president's combative brew of conservatism infused with populism and nationalism.
Despite Trump's outperformance in 2020 of recent GOP presidential candidates among minorities, African-American and Hispanic voters effectively split evenly between the GOP and a Patriot Party in the the new poll.
The survey of 1,200 registered voters was conducted by Scott Rasmussen using a mixed-mode approach from Jan. 21-23, 2021.
Click here to see the poll's cross-demographic tabulations.
Click here to see the poll's methodology and sample demographics.
Shock poll: Trump 'Patriot Party' would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place
Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated "very conservative voters" — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.
justthenews.com
Shock poll: Trump 'Patriot Party' would win almost quarter of voters, drop GOP to third place
Trump third party crushes GOP among highly motivated "very conservative voters" — but would leave Democrats entrenched as dominant party in national politics.
Former President Trump crosses field before Army-Navy football game, West Point, Dec. 12, 2020. (Brendan Smialowski/Getty)
By Daniel Wattenberg
Updated: January 25, 2021 - 2:04pm
A hypothetical "Patriot Party" led by former President Donald Trump would win the support of almost a quarter — 23% — of the electorate, bumping the GOP down to third place with just 17%, according to a new Just the News poll with Scott Rasmussen.
The startling survey result comes amid reports that Senate Republican support for convicting Trump in an impeachment trial is fast eroding.
A Trump third party could provoke a pivotal realignment in American politics. With the support of 46% of registered voters in the new poll, Democrats would reap the benefits of a fractured opposition and entrench themselves as the nation's dominant party — even without majority support.
Image
Just the News Daily Poll
RMG Research
Among "very conservative" voters — who make up a disproportionately large bloc within the Republican primary electorate — a Trump Patriot Party crushes the GOP 55%-24%. Should Trump remain in the GOP, his wide lead among these highly motivated voters affords him great leverage to influence the direction of the party by wielding the threat of conservative primary challenges against establishment Republicans ill at ease with the former president's combative brew of conservatism infused with populism and nationalism.
Despite Trump's outperformance in 2020 of recent GOP presidential candidates among minorities, African-American and Hispanic voters effectively split evenly between the GOP and a Patriot Party in the the new poll.
The survey of 1,200 registered voters was conducted by Scott Rasmussen using a mixed-mode approach from Jan. 21-23, 2021.
Click here to see the poll's cross-demographic tabulations.
Click here to see the poll's methodology and sample demographics.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
the best is yet to come, my ass
naegling62
Veteran Member
Trump hasn't the guts to form a third party or he would have done it in 2018.
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
Better to be under communist rule huh ?
naegling62
Veteran Member
Old Gringo
Senior Member
Grounded Idealist
Hope Always
By way of an update:
Trump Team Disavows Newly Formed MAGA Patriot Party
Former President Donald Trump’s campaign team is disavowing any affiliation with a newly formed political committee called the MAGA Patriot Party.
“We are not supportive of this effort, have nothing to do with it, and only know about it through public reporting,” campaign adviser Jason Miller told The Epoch Times on Jan. 25 via text message.
Donald J. Trump for President (DJTFP), in a miscellaneous report filed with the Federal Election Commission, said it wanted “to disavow the activities of a committee named Patriot Party.”
The MAGA Patriot Party National Committee filed a notice of organization with the commission earlier on Jan. 25. While the filing claimed that Trump’s team was linked to the new committee, Trump’s team said it didn’t authorize the filing of a form claiming it as a participant in joint fundraising activities, hasn’t entered into any joint fundraising agreement with the new committee, and has no knowledge of the Patriot Party’s activities.
MAGA, which typically stands for “Make America Great Again,” was Trump’s campaign slogan.
“To be clear: DJTFP has no affiliation with Patriot Party, which is not authorized by Mr. Trump or DJTFP,” Trump’s team said.
“DJTFP is placing this disavowal notice on the public record out of concern for confusion among the public, which may be misled to believe that Patriot Party’s activities have been authorized by Mr. Trump or DJTFP—or that contributions to this unauthorized committee are being made to DJTFP—when that is not true.”
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Officials of the MAGA Patriot Party National Committee didn’t immediately respond to a request by The Epoch Times for comment. A man named James Davis of Punta Gorda, Florida, is listed as the committee’s treasurer.
Speculation has run rampant since Trump left office last week as to whether he’ll try to form a third party to challenge the status quo. A new poll showed a hypothetical Patriot Party led by the former president would be more popular with voters than the Republican Party.
Trump has stayed mum about his plans now that he’s out of office, although his advisers have said he will get involved with the 2022 midterm elections, and may be considering a 2024 presidential run.
Follow Zachary on Twitter: @zackstieber
m.theepochtimes.com
Trump Team Disavows Newly Formed MAGA Patriot Party
Former President Donald Trump’s campaign team is disavowing any affiliation with a newly formed political committee called the MAGA Patriot Party.
“We are not supportive of this effort, have nothing to do with it, and only know about it through public reporting,” campaign adviser Jason Miller told The Epoch Times on Jan. 25 via text message.
Donald J. Trump for President (DJTFP), in a miscellaneous report filed with the Federal Election Commission, said it wanted “to disavow the activities of a committee named Patriot Party.”
The MAGA Patriot Party National Committee filed a notice of organization with the commission earlier on Jan. 25. While the filing claimed that Trump’s team was linked to the new committee, Trump’s team said it didn’t authorize the filing of a form claiming it as a participant in joint fundraising activities, hasn’t entered into any joint fundraising agreement with the new committee, and has no knowledge of the Patriot Party’s activities.
MAGA, which typically stands for “Make America Great Again,” was Trump’s campaign slogan.
“To be clear: DJTFP has no affiliation with Patriot Party, which is not authorized by Mr. Trump or DJTFP,” Trump’s team said.
“DJTFP is placing this disavowal notice on the public record out of concern for confusion among the public, which may be misled to believe that Patriot Party’s activities have been authorized by Mr. Trump or DJTFP—or that contributions to this unauthorized committee are being made to DJTFP—when that is not true.”
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Officials of the MAGA Patriot Party National Committee didn’t immediately respond to a request by The Epoch Times for comment. A man named James Davis of Punta Gorda, Florida, is listed as the committee’s treasurer.
Speculation has run rampant since Trump left office last week as to whether he’ll try to form a third party to challenge the status quo. A new poll showed a hypothetical Patriot Party led by the former president would be more popular with voters than the Republican Party.
Trump has stayed mum about his plans now that he’s out of office, although his advisers have said he will get involved with the 2022 midterm elections, and may be considering a 2024 presidential run.
Follow Zachary on Twitter: @zackstieber
Trump Team Disavows Newly Formed MAGA Patriot Party
Former President Donald Trump's campaign team is disavowing any affiliation with a newly formed political committee called the ...
m.theepochtimes.com