OP-ED Pass the Turkey, Bigot!

OldCraftsman

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Ah, the holiday season. A time to litter Instagram with literally thousands of pumpkin spice latte and freshly fallen snow pics, images whose purpose is to provide an aesthetically-pleasing-yet-insincere backdrop to the real reason for the season: low, low Black Friday prices, the engine of our runaway consumerist culture.

Not only that, but ’tis the season for dozens upon dozens of #hottakes, setting the internet ablaze with angst, each of them purporting to tell you how to “survive” Thanksgiving with your racist/sexist/Islamophobic/backward family. (Ugh!) The New York Times even made an “Angry Uncle Bot” you can use to practice having these horrendous and (apparently) inevitable fights—all from the comfort of your home and with the aid of that soul-sucking black hole of interpersonal isolation you keep in your pocket: your smartphone.

It shouldn’t need to be said, but this eggshell attitude that’s become so common is at once sad and lame. First, we don’t need bluecheck Twitter personalities—let alone stupid chat bots—telling us how to deal with our own family members. We ought to know our families best, each of us, and if we don’t, it’s still beyond foolish to outsource to impersonal forces and pundits who don’t give a damn about us a “strategy” for how to “deal” with them when we’re home for the holidays.

Further, all of these articles about how to “survive” the few hours one spends around the dinner table miss the point. Not only are these vacuous screeds politically motivated, SJW-approved hit pieces on your “racist Uncle Clyde” (whereas your “woke” anti-white Aunt Beth gets a pass), but they also fail to acknowledge that Thanksgiving, and the holiday season generally, are about gratitude and the acknowledgement of the wonders and gifts of life and togetherness.

Agonizing about, and repairing to the internet—of all places—for help with the daunting task of just speaking with your “crazy” MAGA-loving uncle or sharing the kitchen buffet line with your Ocasio-Cortez fangirl cousin is not healthy. It’s wholly contrary to the spirit of this joyous season. If you feel compelled to do this, seek help.

At this time of year, we come together as a family, and, to the best the best of our ability, break bread and put our differences aside so we can enjoy with gratitude the love we have for one another and the blessings we share. We should not let those who are obsessed with a politics of division inject them into a time of mutual affection, destroying the possibility of unity.

Think about it: Many said President Trump would start a nuclear war, crash the economy, or round up minorities like a Hitler wannabe. Perhaps all three at once! In fact, none of those things has happened. President Trump has simply made good on his many campaign promises, as is his right and duty as the 45th duly-elected chief executive of the United States.

We have much to be thankful for. At a political level, the United States is remarkably stable; political violence remains a fringe phenomenon; and in the main we use our words to resolve our differences rather than our fists.

All of this is so good and so rare. Sure there are problems. Perfection, after all, would be Paradise. But that shouldn’t stop us from being happy right now. This season, Thanksgiving especially, is about cultivating a certain disposition toward our surroundings, one of love and openness to good things, as well as hope for a future of peace and prosperity for everyone.

Not to get too political right before dinner starts, but one might plausibly hear “Make America Great Again” as a kind of resolution—one filled with a cheery expectation to return us all, as a country, to a disposition of gratitude for what God has given us. MAGA can mean, if we are open to a fulsome patriotism, returning to a shared conception of the good, a politics of the common good, one properly ordered to securing all our flourishing. But we as Americans, shared inheritors of a “government of the people, by the people, for the people”—an extremely rare and wonderful thing—must resist the efforts of a new priestly class, those cynical “experts” ensconced in Hollywood, the media, and the academy, who would demonize as “bigoted” our love of country and replace that love with lesser, wicked ideologies like progressive “social justice,” thin and empty secularism, or soulless, anti-Christian nihilistic atheism.

We as a country have overcome much worse, and we certainly have it in us to meet this challenge.

So, give thanks, America. And pass the turkey.

SOURCE: https://amgreatness.com/2018/11/22/pass-the-turkey-bigot/
 

rlm1966

Veteran Member
Politics is not an issue with my family this Thanksgiving, but corporate America and their greed as well as raising a generation of idiots has become an issue in my household this year for the first time ever. About a week ago our daughter-in-law asked if we would be willing to change the traditional afternoon time of our Thanksgiving dinner so the could go to some sales taking place on Turkey day. I informed her that was not an option and she could join us or go shopping the choice was hers. Well last night she and my son come to my office and ask what my wife and I had planned for Friday and I said I wasn't sure, maybe a few errands and some relaxation. Then he informed me that he and his wife had been talking and they were wondering if my wife and I would instead celebrate Thanksgiving Friday instead of Thursday so they could go shopping. Well I pop my top and told him and his wife they could take that idea and shine it up real bright and then shove it very far up their collective ass. Actually I was a bit more colorful than that as I was beyond pissed at this point. Informed that I would not even consider the idea and that if somehow they convinced his mother that it was a good idea (she was even more pissed than me when it was brought up) I would be hoping a plane to Vegas or some place warm for the holiday and going forward they could celebrate their holidays wherever and with whoever they wanted but I would always be out of town.

This has never been an issue before with him but this is their first Thanksgiving as a married couple and suddenly it becomes an issue. So between corporate America's never ending greed, never ending advertising and very poor education/upbringing I can see where families and family time is being replaced with shopping and corporate profits.

Should be an interesting weekend at my house to say the least.
 
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33dInd

Veteran Member
the Edwards family tradition , my house, there is food on the table at this time. The door is open when you get here.
No fuss no muss and NO HARD feelings.
Glad to see you or sorry we missed you this year.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Since family liberals started treating me like a bomb about to go off, Holidays have become much more enjoyable. I tend to verbally assault their feelings, occasionally damaging their world views, with politically incorrect comments, facts and conservative common sense. Caution instead of confrontation appears to be their current MO. Fine with me.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
the Edwards family tradition , my house, there is food on the table at this time. The door is open when you get here.
No fuss no muss and NO HARD feelings.
Glad to see you or sorry we missed you this year.

I would cheerfully bring a cheesecake to such an affair. You guys like cheesecake, right? Maybe apple pie instead?
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
the Edwards family tradition , my house, there is food on the table at this time. The door is open when you get here.
No fuss no muss and NO HARD feelings.
Glad to see you or sorry we missed you this year.

I would bring respect to your household, and something as delicious as I could make or buy.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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the Edwards family tradition , my house, there is food on the table at this time. The door is open when you get here.
No fuss no muss and NO HARD feelings.
Glad to see you or sorry we missed you this year.

Howzabouts leftovers tomorrow? :D
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Why do people subject themselves to sitting down to eat with people they don't like, or people who don't like them?
And what the hell happened to the polite tradition of never discussing politics at meals?
It's bad for digestion.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Why do people subject themselves to sitting down to eat with people they don't like, or people who don't like them?
And what the hell happened to the polite tradition of never discussing politics at meals?
It's bad for digestion.

Because It's Family. That's really all the answer that can be.
 

Bumpkin

Old enough to know better
I do not do any of the holiday hoopla. I celebrate Christmas as Christ's birthday, and Thanksgiving I am usually pet sitting for friends. I refuse to do the forced gathering of people and the spending of money for ridiculous crap. I don't doctor my house up with a bunch of decorations because I don't want to advertise to the world that possibly I might have something in the house worth stealing, I would prefer to be the standoffish gray man. Kids are grown and gone and grandkids are met and played with elsewhere. There are a few liberals in the family, and my absolute refusal to do holiday gatherings has served me well in the past few years. It has pissed a lot of people off, but the holidays should not be about Commerce, they should be about the birth of Jesus Christ, and nothing else
 

Bumpkin

Old enough to know better
And every year, yes, I get the comments from many people I know that, oh, they are family, family is the most important thing in the world... And I tell them no, if my family pisses me off and makes me miserable, and if my spouse family doesn't understand me and lives several hours away, then I am totally happy being by myself on the holiday. My time is valuable and I have spent many years putting up with family and so-called friends who are nothing but leeches and sparring partners. My name is not Jesus.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
That sort of garbage never came up yesterday. We just had fun and enjoyed each other - because, well, love.

I credit poor upbringing for the apparent current problems folks have. Pa always kept a leather belt under the dinner table to dissipate any ruckus before it took root, and I guess the lesson stuck.
 

Bumpkin

Old enough to know better
That sort of garbage never came up yesterday. We just had fun and enjoyed each other - because, well, love.

I credit poor upbringing for the apparent current problems folks have. Pa always kept a leather belt under the dinner table to dissipate any ruckus before it took root, and I guess the lesson stuck.

I would give several years of my life to have a peaceful holiday gathering. However, I cannot control the actions of others. After beating my head against that wall for far too many years, I finally said enough is enough. If masochism is required in order to be part of a group, then that group is not for me.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Don't get me wrong - I don't hang out with assholes and nonredeemable crazy people. They get filtered out of my life long before Thanksgiving comes around. But it's also helpful to realize that I personally, don't have to be part of the problem at a gathering...?

INTJ tenet - Be part of the SOLUTION, not the problem. Don't know how often normal people reflect on that philosophy. I've observed over a lifetime, too many don't practice it.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Since family liberals started treating me like a bomb about to go off, Holidays have become much more enjoyable. I tend to verbally assault their feelings, occasionally damaging their world views, with politically incorrect comments, facts and conservative common sense. Caution instead of confrontation appears to be their current MO. Fine with me.

Horselaugh!

Owner would approve this message. His pin was pulled YEARS ago when he left Massachusetts to take up the ancestral holdings.

Dobbin
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
My apology for a slight thread drift, but, I just did a double take looking at the photo in post #11 above.

The gentleman in the center is a double for my late Dad as he was around age 50 or so. For a second I thought Dad Sunday had made a comeback!

Great thread going here. Lets get back to it.
 

vestige

Deceased
Why do people subject themselves to sitting down to eat with people they don't like, or people who don't like them?
And what the hell happened to the polite tradition of never discussing politics at meals?
It's bad for digestion.

Because It's Family. That's really all the answer that can be.

There are basically no liberals in my family. Any closet liberals shy away from here and none of my friends are liberals. Liberals are a pain in the ass and not tolerated.

Years ago (1986) we had a very large gathering of family and friends here and one liberal camel stuck its nose under the tent. I virtually exploded (too profane to post here) and any attendees with liberal leanings left immediately.

They have never returned and...

"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
 

Bumpkin

Old enough to know better
In fact, you CAN fire family.

Yes, you can definitely fire family, I have done it, and it is one of the most liberating things you can possibly do in your entire life. Just because someone is related to you by blood or by marriage or by adoption, it does not obligate you to put up with their b*******
 

Bumpkin

Old enough to know better
Don't get me wrong - I don't hang out with assholes and nonredeemable crazy people. They get filtered out of my life long before Thanksgiving comes around. But it's also helpful to realize that I personally, don't have to be part of the problem at a gathering...?

INTJ tenet - Be part of the SOLUTION, not the problem. Don't know how often normal people reflect on that philosophy. I've observed over a lifetime, too many don't practice it.

I have never been part of the problem at a family gathering. However, being with my family and expecting to enjoy each other's company, only to have it turn into a shitfight because of others' behavior is not something that can be solved by anything other than leaving, or throwing out the offenders. Being part of the solution is why I no longer attend these gatherings, it is the solution for me and my peace of mind. My time and my tranquilty are very valuable to me, and I no longer will put myself in a situation where I know there is going to be discord and b*******. If these gatherings were held at my home, I would have immediately kicked out anyone who was causing problems, regardless of their status in the family. That was never the case, so that was not my call. I am sure many other people who are reading this can identify with what I am saying.
 
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