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Ontario gov’t polls citizens on support for removing COVID-19 nonconformists from their homes
LifeSiteMon Sep 13, 2021 - 8:52 pm EDT
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TORONTO (LifeSiteNews) — Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s chief pollster recently asked Ontarians a series of questions about COVID-19 measures, including whether or not they would support the Ford government jailing, detaining, fining, and monitoring those dissenting from the mainstream COVID-19 narrative.

The screenshots from Campaign Research of the polling questions, which were distributed widely by Independent Provincial Member of Parliament (MPP) Randy Hiller, were initially leaked to No More Lockdowns Canada, an organization fighting against the tyrannical measures imposed on Canadians since the start of the COVID-19 “pandemic.”

One of the questions asked Ontarians if they “support or oppose the government suspending civil liberties and rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms for the duration of the pandemic?”

Another question asked Ontarians if they “support or oppose police being authorized to establish pedestrian check points” and “vehicle check points” in an effort to “enforce compliance with COVID-19 measures?”

One of the more shocking questions was asking citizens if they “support police and health officials being authorized to separate” people by “removing [them] from [their] homes and housing them somewhere else?” with a follow-up question asking Ontarians if they “support or oppose fining or jailing those who spread disinformation about COVID-19?”

According to the poll, examples of “disinformation” include “questioning the existence or seriousness of COVID-19″ and saying COVID-19 is “just the flu.”

Hillier, who sent out the screenshots he received from the No More Lockdowns whistleblower, also included his thoughts and feelings about the province’s newfound line of inquiry.

“Reading these were absolutely terrifying. Suspending civil rights and liberties? Vehicle and pedestrian checkpoints? Police removing people from their homes? Jailing and fining those who hold dissenting opinions?” Hillier said.

“These are very serious and concerning questions the government is asking,” he added.

Hillier, who has supported open and honest debate about COVID-19 measures and was even criminally charged for hosting a protest against them, also expressed frustration with the media and politicians, who continue to refuse to engage with anyone who holds views that diverge, even in marginal ways, from official government opinion.

“The media and politicians have cast the narratives in the extremes; on one side you are either a denier or conspiracy theorist or you fall in the other category of virtuous and selfless. There is no middle ground, there is in fact, no discussion, even though public policy demands debate and discussion in a free and democratic society,” he stated.

A recent example of the “no discussion” phenomenon was when Maxime Bernier, federal leader of the People’s Party of Canada, whose party has vowed to end draconian COVID-19 measures, was prohibited from participating in the federal leaders’ debates.

Not long after Bernier was barred from the debates, Rebel News had their “accreditation” stripped by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s debate commission, leaving the conservative news organization banned from access to the debates as well.

Rebel News eventually won in court and had their accreditation reinstated, allowing them access to the debates and proving that the right each Canadian possess to be treated equally and without discrimination, under the law still applies.

According to constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati, all of the COVID-19-inspired measures, including but not limited to lockdowns, vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, masking, and limits on gatherings, violate Section 2, Section 7, and Section 15 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

Section 2: Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: freedom of religion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association.

Section 7: Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

Section 15 (1): Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination.

In his call to action in response to the poll, Hillier told the public:

“If this bothers you [the type of questions asked in the poll], if you are concerned about the direction we’re headed, then please consider the following:

If you live outside my riding with a PC [Progressive Conservative] MPP, send them these screenshots, if you are a constituent, consider reaching out to the Premier and ask: ‘Why is your government contemplating removing my rights and liberties? Why is your government talking about forcefully removing citizens from their home and setting up Soviet-style checkpoints?’ Ask via email, phone, letter, and social media. If you share on social media, be sure to share with me and the press.”
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
They have to eliminate the 2nd before they can push the full narrative here. It is driving them crazy. Blocking Russian ammo was a step, they think they are cutting off ammo supplies.

All it really means is it is harder to get, doesn't mean we don't already have a lot.
IIRC, SG Ammo said the U.S. imported something like 800 MILLION rounds of Russian ammo each year... So ya, there are billions of rounds of ammo in the USA.

I've seen some guys with ammo forts that were in the hundreds of thousands range... It's a wonder the globe doesn't wobble as a result.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
Well they're scared of something because they really really really want to go full retard but haven't yet.

Not scared...calculated. Like a boiling a frog, you bring the heat up slowly, so they dont realize what is happening until it is too late. If they go full cannons right off the bat, that sends alerts even to the oblivious (which is most of America). They continue the narrative and get them to turn in their brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers....just like scripture says they will. Slowly, incrementally and calculated. Just like in Weinmar - propaganda is a very powerful tool. It creates suckers everywhere who want their "safety", more than they want their "liberty"

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

And if the Rapture happens soon, that removes the Spirit and most of those left behind will have no conscience and do what feels good to them.
 
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dvo

Veteran Member
Not scared...calculated. Like a boiling a frog, you bring the heat up slowly, so they dont realize what is happening until it is too late. If they go full cannons right off the bat, that sends alerts even to the oblivious (which is most of America). They continue the narrative and get them to turn in their brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers....just like scripture says they will. Slowly, incrementally and calculated. Just like in Weinmar - propaganda is a very powerful tool. It creates suckers everywhere who want their "normal" for self, more than they want their "right"

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

And if the Rapture happens soon, that removes the Spirit and most of those left behind will have no conscience and do what feels good to them.

Have a son that would turn us in. That is very sad.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
They're not scared of our guns.

Yes they are, very afraid as a matter of fact. Just what do you think is stopping them from doing what they are doing in Canada, Australia and New Zealand? If they could of outlawed firearm ownership or vastly restricted them they would of done so a long time ago. The fact that the populous is well armed is the only thing slowing them down right now. Right out of the Communist playbook is the first thing you do when you come to power is to disarm the population.

Game on.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
IIRC, SG Ammo said the U.S. imported something like 800 MILLION rounds of Russian ammo each year... So ya, there are billions of rounds of ammo in the USA.

I've seen some guys with ammo forts that were in the hundreds of thousands range... It's a wonder the globe doesn't wobble as a result.
That is no kidding. One of the insurance agents I deal with said that he has a client that had quite a bit of ammo(like 100K rounds+) He was forced to build a bunker for it before they would insure it and his gun collection.
 
Have a son that would turn us in. That is very sad.
Why don't you say you got the shot? My doc asked me today if I got the flu shot. I said yes at the drugstore a month ago. He said, odd they didn't fax him the information. Said for me to tell them to fax it to him. I said ok. I don't go back now for 6 months to check my lungs again. They may forget by then. Or I am planning on saying I went to the big city and forgot which pharmacy I went to so can't ask anyone to fax it. But scary how everything is on computer!!!
 

Griz3752

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Ontario gov't polls citizens on support for removing COVID-19 nonconformists from their homes - LifeSite


Ontario gov’t polls citizens on support for removing COVID-19 nonconformists from their homes
LifeSiteMon Sep 13, 2021 - 8:52 pm EDT
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TORONTO (LifeSiteNews) — Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s chief pollster recently asked Ontarians a series of questions about COVID-19 measures, including whether or not they would support the Ford government jailing, detaining, fining, and monitoring those dissenting from the mainstream COVID-19 narrative.

The screenshots from Campaign Research of the polling questions, which were distributed widely by Independent Provincial Member of Parliament (MPP) Randy Hiller, were initially leaked to No More Lockdowns Canada, an organization fighting against the tyrannical measures imposed on Canadians since the start of the COVID-19 “pandemic.”

One of the questions asked Ontarians if they “support or oppose the government suspending civil liberties and rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms for the duration of the pandemic?”

Another question asked Ontarians if they “support or oppose police being authorized to establish pedestrian check points” and “vehicle check points” in an effort to “enforce compliance with COVID-19 measures?”

One of the more shocking questions was asking citizens if they “support police and health officials being authorized to separate” people by “removing [them] from [their] homes and housing them somewhere else?” with a follow-up question asking Ontarians if they “support or oppose fining or jailing those who spread disinformation about COVID-19?”

According to the poll, examples of “disinformation” include “questioning the existence or seriousness of COVID-19″ and saying COVID-19 is “just the flu.”

Hillier, who sent out the screenshots he received from the No More Lockdowns whistleblower, also included his thoughts and feelings about the province’s newfound line of inquiry.

“Reading these were absolutely terrifying. Suspending civil rights and liberties? Vehicle and pedestrian checkpoints? Police removing people from their homes? Jailing and fining those who hold dissenting opinions?” Hillier said.

“These are very serious and concerning questions the government is asking,” he added.

Hillier, who has supported open and honest debate about COVID-19 measures and was even criminally charged for hosting a protest against them, also expressed frustration with the media and politicians, who continue to refuse to engage with anyone who holds views that diverge, even in marginal ways, from official government opinion.

“The media and politicians have cast the narratives in the extremes; on one side you are either a denier or conspiracy theorist or you fall in the other category of virtuous and selfless. There is no middle ground, there is in fact, no discussion, even though public policy demands debate and discussion in a free and democratic society,” he stated.

A recent example of the “no discussion” phenomenon was when Maxime Bernier, federal leader of the People’s Party of Canada, whose party has vowed to end draconian COVID-19 measures, was prohibited from participating in the federal leaders’ debates.

Not long after Bernier was barred from the debates, Rebel News had their “accreditation” stripped by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s debate commission, leaving the conservative news organization banned from access to the debates as well.

Rebel News eventually won in court and had their accreditation reinstated, allowing them access to the debates and proving that the right each Canadian possess to be treated equally and without discrimination, under the law still applies.

According to constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati, all of the COVID-19-inspired measures, including but not limited to lockdowns, vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, masking, and limits on gatherings, violate Section 2, Section 7, and Section 15 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

Section 2: Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: freedom of religion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association.

Section 7: Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

Section 15 (1): Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination.

In his call to action in response to the poll, Hillier told the public:

“If this bothers you [the type of questions asked in the poll], if you are concerned about the direction we’re headed, then please consider the following:

If you live outside my riding with a PC [Progressive Conservative] MPP, send them these screenshots, if you are a constituent, consider reaching out to the Premier and ask: ‘Why is your government contemplating removing my rights and liberties? Why is your government talking about forcefully removing citizens from their home and setting up Soviet-style checkpoints?’ Ask via email, phone, letter, and social media. If you share on social media, be sure to share with me and the press.”
As a little background to Premier Ford you might want to research him and his Brother Rob Ford, the ex-Mayor of Toronto.

Mr Bernier also has the odd bit of cawcaw on his shoes for a variety of issues; check out Julie Couillard for more insight on some of those.

If nothing else, it proves there are some of the same political wrong-doings and shenanigans on both sides of the border.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
This corruption and stupidity has got to stop! Cops should not be treasonous, either! They are supposed to be public servants, not going gestapo!
 

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Ontario gov't polls citizens on support for removing COVID-19 nonconformists from their homes - LifeSite


Ontario gov’t polls citizens on support for removing COVID-19 nonconformists from their homes
LifeSiteMon Sep 13, 2021 - 8:52 pm EDT
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TORONTO (LifeSiteNews) — Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s chief pollster recently asked Ontarians a series of questions about COVID-19 measures, including whether or not they would support the Ford government jailing, detaining, fining, and monitoring those dissenting from the mainstream COVID-19 narrative.

The screenshots from Campaign Research of the polling questions, which were distributed widely by Independent Provincial Member of Parliament (MPP) Randy Hiller, were initially leaked to No More Lockdowns Canada, an organization fighting against the tyrannical measures imposed on Canadians since the start of the COVID-19 “pandemic.”

One of the questions asked Ontarians if they “support or oppose the government suspending civil liberties and rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms for the duration of the pandemic?”

Another question asked Ontarians if they “support or oppose police being authorized to establish pedestrian check points” and “vehicle check points” in an effort to “enforce compliance with COVID-19 measures?”

One of the more shocking questions was asking citizens if they “support police and health officials being authorized to separate” people by “removing [them] from [their] homes and housing them somewhere else?” with a follow-up question asking Ontarians if they “support or oppose fining or jailing those who spread disinformation about COVID-19?”

According to the poll, examples of “disinformation” include “questioning the existence or seriousness of COVID-19″ and saying COVID-19 is “just the flu.”

Hillier, who sent out the screenshots he received from the No More Lockdowns whistleblower, also included his thoughts and feelings about the province’s newfound line of inquiry.

“Reading these were absolutely terrifying. Suspending civil rights and liberties? Vehicle and pedestrian checkpoints? Police removing people from their homes? Jailing and fining those who hold dissenting opinions?” Hillier said.

“These are very serious and concerning questions the government is asking,” he added.

Hillier, who has supported open and honest debate about COVID-19 measures and was even criminally charged for hosting a protest against them, also expressed frustration with the media and politicians, who continue to refuse to engage with anyone who holds views that diverge, even in marginal ways, from official government opinion.

“The media and politicians have cast the narratives in the extremes; on one side you are either a denier or conspiracy theorist or you fall in the other category of virtuous and selfless. There is no middle ground, there is in fact, no discussion, even though public policy demands debate and discussion in a free and democratic society,” he stated.

A recent example of the “no discussion” phenomenon was when Maxime Bernier, federal leader of the People’s Party of Canada, whose party has vowed to end draconian COVID-19 measures, was prohibited from participating in the federal leaders’ debates.

Not long after Bernier was barred from the debates, Rebel News had their “accreditation” stripped by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s debate commission, leaving the conservative news organization banned from access to the debates as well.

Rebel News eventually won in court and had their accreditation reinstated, allowing them access to the debates and proving that the right each Canadian possess to be treated equally and without discrimination, under the law still applies.

According to constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati, all of the COVID-19-inspired measures, including but not limited to lockdowns, vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, masking, and limits on gatherings, violate Section 2, Section 7, and Section 15 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

Section 2: Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: freedom of religion, expression, peaceful assembly, and association.

Section 7: Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

Section 15 (1): Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination.

In his call to action in response to the poll, Hillier told the public:

“If this bothers you [the type of questions asked in the poll], if you are concerned about the direction we’re headed, then please consider the following:

If you live outside my riding with a PC [Progressive Conservative] MPP, send them these screenshots, if you are a constituent, consider reaching out to the Premier and ask: ‘Why is your government contemplating removing my rights and liberties? Why is your government talking about forcefully removing citizens from their home and setting up Soviet-style checkpoints?’ Ask via email, phone, letter, and social media. If you share on social media, be sure to share with me and the press.”
It's the Kinder, Gentler Communism... next, they'll poll to ask you your preferred caliber for your execution!

Summerthyme
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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They have to eliminate the 2nd before they can push the full narrative here. It is driving them crazy. Blocking Russian ammo was a step, they think they are cutting off ammo supplies.

All it really means is it is harder to get, doesn't mean we don't already have a lot.

Anyone who plays video games knows how you resupply ammo and upgrade weapons.
 

Squib

Veteran Member
Have a son that would turn us in. That is very sad.

Well, and I write this as a father and grandfather…

You know what to do then, or, if it comes down to it, another member of the clan will have to do it.
 

Squib

Veteran Member
I pretty much agree with this.

Reason being - the globalist don't care how many on either side die.

The more that die is a win win for them - as in population reduction - as in Georgia guidestones.

Yeah, everyone of them wants to act tough, it’ll it’s killing & dying time.

They think they’re untouchable…they’re not thinking too clearly then…

Theres no honor among thieves or traitors…one of the first things the communists do, is purge their ranks of the useful idiots…after all, how can they trust someone who is a betrayer?

Even at the highest levels, betrayal happens and it’s just as cut throat!
 

sjhenderson

Senior Member
IIRC, SG Ammo said the U.S. imported something like 800 MILLION rounds of Russian ammo each year... So ya, there are billions of rounds of ammo in the USA.

I've seen some guys with ammo forts that were in the hundreds of thousands range... It's a wonder the globe doesn't wobble as a result.
I think my house just shook a little.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Yes they are, very afraid as a matter of fact. Just what do you think is stopping them from doing what they are doing in Canada, Australia and New Zealand? If they could of outlawed firearm ownership or vastly restricted them they would of done so a long time ago. The fact that the populous is well armed is the only thing slowing them down right now. Right out of the Communist playbook is the first thing you do when you come to power is to disarm the population.

Game on.

Remember, the Romanian uprising/revolution in December o f1989 didn't really get guns until the army and police did the math and figured out what was best for them.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
The question Hinshaw was replying to was about Outbreaks in schools of young children...... video makes it seem as if anyone who is home sick and doesn't get covid tested is included. How would anyone know who was sick and from what? So this is misleading......

The word Covid was not mentioned in describing outbreaks in schools, only "respiratory" problems, and if a child had anything from sniffles to whooping cough, and the parents felt it was not necessary to have a Covid test (just keeping child home and the usual treatments for whatever the parent believed it was), then those absences were noted and included in Covid positive figures.

This gives a bit more clarification on this little video excerpt - which does more harm than good sometimes, as people pounce on them with no background to what they are trying to prove. In this case, it is fraudulent and the leading question was from CBC, which was obviously trying to get more restrictions in schools. (Question at 29 mins 54 secs)

Also the website shows a photo of a US LEO arresting a citizen - they could at least have used a pic of a Canadian LEO doing his duty...... doesn't lead to credibility.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
The question Hinshaw was replying to was about Outbreaks in schools of young children...... video makes it seem as if anyone who is home sick and doesn't get covid tested is included. How would anyone know who was sick and from what? So this is misleading......

The word Covid was not mentioned in describing outbreaks in schools, only "respiratory" problems, and if a child had anything from sniffles to whooping cough, and the parents felt it was not necessary to have a Covid test (just keeping child home and the usual treatments for whatever the parent believed it was), then those absences were noted and included in Covid positive figures.

This gives a bit more clarification on this little video excerpt - which does more harm than good sometimes, as people pounce on them with no background to what they are trying to prove. In this case, it is fraudulent and the leading question was from CBC, which was obviously trying to get more restrictions in schools. (Question at 29 mins 54 secs)

Also the website shows a photo of a US LEO arresting a citizen - they could at least have used a pic of a Canadian LEO doing his duty...... doesn't lead to credibility.

Here is her exact words from this short take:

"If individuals choose to not get tested for covid, but are home with an illness, um, there now counted in the list as, uh, being apart of that outbreak.

And so it's less dependent on needing a test to be apart of identifying where there is an issue?.

We are as I mentioned, working with education to determine if there are any adjustments that need to be made?."

So, in other words, if people 'choose to not get tested' because they have 'an illness' at home, then they are considered part of the outbreak 'group', is how I read that first sentence.

The words 'an illness' implies that they dont know what the person has.

So in effect, they are grouping that person in the 'outbreak' group.
(What other outbreak is there besides covid? Her speaking the word 'covid' in the sentence is the qualifier.)

Thus calling there unknown illness, covid, because the parent wont get tested.

Because regardless of the context of her entire speech, the 1st sentence is quite clear and is a stand alone statement.
 
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Vegas321

Live free and survive
Some Canadians have firearms. And if they come to drag them out. Some will fight.
It doesn't take many Constables to drop before the cops say, forgataboutit...
 
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