WTF?!? Oh the Trump Hypocrisy: Why is Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Donating to Trump?

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Oh the Trump Hypocrisy: Why is Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Donating to Trump?

by John Galt
February 9, 2016 19:15 ET



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From September 1, 2015 via CNN:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78vDy7ezNQE




Small donors eh?








I guess he’s being sort of honest in that Tweet from above. Or is he?
Warren Buffett is technically in Omaha, Nebraska but a lot of these hedge funds donating to the Donald (via OpenSecrets.org courtesy of the Federal Elections Commission records) are based in New York and all around the country:










Weird. Left wing universities are donating to Trump, but more importantly, look at all those medically related corporations and the FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION (FDA) donating to Mr. Trump.


Keep in mind, these are the direct donations and I will not be able to access the SuperPAC donation list to Trump’s numerous SuperPAC’s until after the 1st quarter to illustrate just who is trying to donate the big money to his “cause.”

So what gives?

The really unusual thing is that the Donald promised not take money from large donors yet there is Warren Buffett’s corporations, two of them to be exact, donating to Trump; just like they did to rent and get favors from Obama.

Of course there is no way that Trump would allow this to influence him, right? He only makes deals, right? And of course if these people can help him get some deals done, then they want their backs scratched also, right?

Too bad the MSM and Captain Insaneo supporters of Trump will not recognize the danger right in front of their faces as there is not much difference between a Trump deal with Buffett and an Obama deal with Buffett.

Of course, Donald Trump will just accuse everyone else of forcing him to make these deals because every failure in his life is ALWAYS someone’s fault; just not his….
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Wow.....John. $10K or less and your making an issue out of that? You've got to be kidding me, is that the best you can do? Let's see....what kind of influence can Warren Buffett buy for $10K. That won't even buy enough Jet-A to get Trump's plane to his next stop. That would be like someone buying you or me a tank of gas and calling it influence peddling. You can do better than that. If you can't then their isn't a lot of dirt to dig up on Trump with his campaign financing.

This is some of Ted Cruz's but I can't get the whole thing to post...

Good thing that Mr. Cruz won't be influenced by the millions he is taking in from the PAC's as opposed to the low thousands that Trump is taking in. And no, I'm not a Trump supporter, but speaking of hypocrisy....
 

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Be Well

may all be well
Trump haters are finding so little that they can fling at him it's funny.

The latest is that he is pushing LBTFQ?@#** rights because he said a 2 second meaningless pleasantry to a female perv interviewer. And now he's owned by Buffet to the tune of $10 grand. And to top it all off, he said (hide your eyes) "Pussy"! repeating what some other evil person said.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
I saw the thread title and thought "uh-oh." Then I started looking at the amounts, which is really minimum compared to the others and then I thought....maybe Buffet (and the other donors) are finally seeing the seething American anger and figured, LIKE TRUMP USED TO, they'd better get on the band wagon and at least give something so Trump won't completely decapitate them when he is POTUS.
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Wow.....John. $10K or less and your making an issue out of that? You've got to be kidding me, is that the best you can do? Let's see....what kind of influence can Warren Buffett buy for $10K. That won't even buy enough Jet-A to get Trump's plane to his next stop. That would be like someone buying you or me a tank of gas and calling it influence peddling. You can do better than that. If you can't then their isn't a lot of dirt to dig up on Trump with his campaign financing.

This is some of Ted Cruz's but I can't get the whole thing to post...

Good thing that Mr. Cruz won't be influenced by the millions he is taking in from the PAC's as opposed to the low thousands that Trump is taking in. And no, I'm not a Trump supporter, but speaking of hypocrisy....

So Trump says he won't take money from "large donors" and he's taking money from someone worth 20 times himself and you don't find that unusual?

Hmmmm.....

There is more coming, it's just not publicly accessible information yet; it will be after Q1 2016.
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
That first donor...MDC Holdings that gave $10K? Get a load of this..

M.D.C. Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: MDC),founded by Larry Mizel as Mizel Development Corporation in 1972, whose subsidiaries build homes under the name "Richmond American Homes," is one of the top ten homebuilders in the United States, based on 2006 revenue. The Company also provides mortgage financing, primarily for MDC's homebuyers, through its wholly owned subsidiary HomeAmerican Mortgage Corporation. MDC, a Fortune 500 Company, is a major regional homebuilder with a significant presence in Colorado, Jacksonville, Las Vegas, Maryland, Northern California, Northern Virginia, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Southern California and Tucson. MDC also has established operating divisions in Chicago, Philadelphia/Delaware Valley and West Florida. MDC is based in Denver, CO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDC_Holdings

And WHO is Larry Mizel????

Philanthropy

Mizel has been actively involved in many charitable, religious and community causes.[8]

He is a life member of the Council on Foreign Relations, an independent, nonpartisan membership organization dedicated to helping people better understand the world and foreign policy choices facing the United States and other countries.[9]

As one of the founders of the Simon Wiesenthal Center,[3] Mizel has served as the international chairman of the board of trustees since 2003.[5] Based in Los Angeles, the Simon Wiesenthal Center is an international human rights organization that promotes tolerance and combats racism and anti-Semitism around the world.[10] Its educational arm, the Museum of Tolerance, a recipient of the 2004 Tolerance Award given at the United Nations, is a world-class human rights laboratory and learning center dedicated to challenging visitors to confront important contemporary issues.[11] The Simon Wiesenthal Center is accredited as a non-governmental organization at international agencies including the United Nations, UNESCO, the OAS, the Council of Europe and the Latin American Parliament.

Mizel is a member of the board of directors of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC),[12] which works to help make Israel more secure by ensuring that American support remains strong.

In 1986, Mizel founded and served as the inaugural chairman of Colorado Concern, an organization committed to promoting sustainable business growth and advancing the economic well-being of Colorado.[13]

In 1982, Mizel and his wife, Carol, founded the Mizel Museum.[14] Mizel also founded, as a part of the Mizel Museum and its larger umbrella organization, the Mizel Institute, the Counterterrorism Education Learning Lab (the CELL) in 2004. The CELL is a non-profit institution dedicated to preventing terrorism through education, empowerment and engagement.[15] Located in Denver, the CELL opened its facility in 2009 with the purpose of educating citizens on global terrorism threats.[16]

The Mizel Center for Arts and Culture is also named for Mizel, but is a separate organization located in Denver at the Jewish Community Center. The MACC illuminates the human experience through creative and cultural programs in the performing, visual, and literary arts for the Jewish Community and the community at large.[17]

As a founding member of the Denver Rustlers, Mizel works with other Colorado business leaders to support youth in the community.[18] From raising scholarship money, to supporting participants at the Junior Livestock Sale at the annual Colorado State Fair, to opening the Denver Rustlers Kids Cafe in 1994 to combat childhood hunger.[19]

In December 2011, he was named the "7th Most Powerful Person" in Denver by the magazine 5280.[20]

In April 2014, he was named the "15th Most Powerful Person" in Denver by the magazine 5280.[21]

In January 2016, he was inducted into the Colorado Business Hall of Fame.[22]
https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/proxy2...q553q&ekdata=e978cf07ef786b486af0c3f057b8b7a1

I'm going to be sick.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Trump haters are finding so little that they can fling at him it's funny.

The latest is that he is pushing LBTFQ?@#** rights because he said a 2 second meaningless pleasantry to a female perv interviewer. And now he's owned by Buffet to the tune of $10 grand. And to top it all off, he said (hide your eyes) "Pussy"! repeating what some other evil person said.

Oh, I call them pearl clutchers.
Pearl_Clutcher.jpg
 

Be Well

may all be well
Keep in mind, these are the direct donations and I will not be able to access the SuperPAC donation list to Trump’s numerous SuperPAC’s until after the 1st quarter to illustrate just who is trying to donate the big money to his “cause.”

Trump disassociated himself from any and all SuperPacs in his name and either refused or returned (not sure which) any monies from any PACs and said none were authorized by him to collect money on his behalf.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
Swan Creek Candle Company donates to Trump

Trump makes America smell good again.

Trump 2016 :wvflg:
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Trump said he would not accept money from PACs and would not use any that had raised cash for him......

Are these PACs??? There are also SuperPACs for the nominee....... it would be interesting to see his take on whether he would use the SuperPAC - I don't think he will.

It is one of the biggies that he is self-funding and if he is not using this money, then if Michael Bloomberg joins the race, it will be the Battle of the Billionaires as each uses his own money.

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I believe that document is fake - there is a donation from the US Food and Drug Administration.......they would NEVER donate to Donald Trump. You can follow the OpenSecrets.org background and funding.......Carnegie, Ford Foundation.
 

Seabear

Inactive
Wow that amounts to an insult and or lunch money in a national or even state wide campaign. If you really knew about how campaigns work the small amounts fly under the radar for reporting purposes and then show up later as an embarrassment often. If you think a few thousand buys Trump....

Trump can and should send it back if it violates a promise he made. Buffet has been a Democrap supporter big time.

Corps give money on winners too (often late in the season) because they don't want to be seen as not supporting someone important.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Trump said he would not accept money from PACs and would not use any that had raised cash for him......

Are these PACs??? There are also SuperPACs for the nominee....... it would be interesting to see his take on whether he would use the SuperPAC - I don't think he will.

It is one of the biggies that he is self-funding and if he is not using this money, then if Michael Bloomberg joins the race, it will be the Battle of the Billionaires as each uses his own money.

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I believe that document is fake - there is a donation from the US Food and Drug Administration.......they would NEVER donate to Donald Trump. You can follow the OpenSecrets.org background and funding.......Carnegie, Ford Foundation.

Bloomie was on the local news tonight and said that if he does enter the race he will run using his own money and not take PAC money either. From the interview it sounded like he thought he'd be going up against Trump and no one else.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
If you go to this link, you can see Trump only has 2 fund raising groups; one is his campaign entity and the other is a PAC. I think they shut that one down last fall when he wrote letters to all of them. I don't know what the status is of that PAC; but it's almost empty. When I change the search criteria to funds from outside groups, it doesn't show any contributions. There should be a way to find out if it had activity in the last quarter of 2015.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00023864&type=f

Trump didn't say he wasn't taking contributions from wealthy people; he said he was not going to take big donations.
 

Willow

Veteran Member
Speaking of money I saw on one of the news station this morning a comparison of candidates on how much money they spent per voter. Many of the candidates spent hundreds of dollars per vote and had a poor showing. Trump spent $40 per vote earned and won which is impressive. But the interesting detail...at least for me...was Cruz. He spent $18 for each vote earned and he went into the NH primary knowing he was very likely to finish poorly. In fact, he finished an impressive third and spend far less money than any other candidate for those votes.

I do believe, as the candidates slowly drop out of the race, that Trump will start to do poorly and whoever the other option is in the GOP race will start to win. Trump's Unfavorable ratings are very high and that will be a big factor when he isn't running against so many other candidates that spread out those remaining votes.

Willow
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
I wonder how the dollars spent per vote is figured. It looks to me like Cruz spent more than twice as much as Trump did for substantially fewer votes.

Open Secrets shows money spent so far; campaign+outside groups or campaign only (co):

Trump $14,174,036 or (co) $12,440,892
Cruz $39,029,712 or (co) $28,352,063

Votes for Iowa and NH; tolls for NH are with 95% of the polls reporting:

Trump: 45,429 (NH) 94,893 = 140,000
Ted Cruz: 51,666 (NH) 31,436 = 83,000
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
I want to thank JGF for reminding us of the Open Secrets site; lots of interesting stuff there.

It seems that Trump's donors are quite diverse; 55% comes from all other states.

Cruz should be careful about bashing NY values; 19% of his donations came from there. $10 million came from Puerto Rico (16%). WTH is up with that?

Campaign + Outside Groups Geography:

Trump
Texas $177,777 13%
Florida $175,964 13%
California $172,907 12%
New York $102,197 7%
Other States $775,275 55%

Cruz
Texas $27,384,334 45%
New York $11,619,022 19%
Puerto Rico $10,001,250 16%
California $2,010,609 3%
Other States $9,665,946 16%
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
With posts like this JGF I am beginning to believe you are a Trump supporter!

That's funny; I was just thinking the same thing. He has this pattern of throwing an anti-Trump thing out there and then Trump supporters dig deep to shine the light in these dark corners.

That works for me just fine.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If you go to this link, you can see Trump only has 2 fund raising groups; one is his campaign entity and the other is a PAC. I think they shut that one down last fall when he wrote letters to all of them. I don't know what the status is of that PAC; but it's almost empty. When I change the search criteria to funds from outside groups, it doesn't show any contributions. There should be a way to find out if it had activity in the last quarter of 2015.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00023864&type=f

Trump didn't say he wasn't taking contributions from wealthy people; he said he was not going to take big donations.

That's what he said. To you and I, $10K is a lot of money. To people like Trump and Buffet it's chump change. They look upon donations like this as a cost of doing business. I would be much more interested in seeing how much Buffet donated to the other candidates. If they all got $10K or close to it, I would say it was a business expense. I might be a little more disturbed about it if Trump was the only Repub candidate that was on the receiving end.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
Berkshire Hathaway's $3450 contribution and Berkshire Hathaway Automotive"s $2700 contribution don't bother me nearly as much as these contributions to Cruz:
Woodforest National Bank $95,800
Goldman Sachs $58,550

However, even those amounts won't get them many favors. This one might have some clout, though:
Caprock Partners: $10,001,000

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Top Industry Donors (the site lists 20)
Trump
1 Retired $340,236
2 Health Professionals $56,573
3 Real Estate $52,998
4 Misc Business $40,678
5 Misc Finance $23,353
6 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $21,191
7 Lawyers/Law Firms $18,649
8 Other $12,786
9 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $12,251
10 Automotive $12,209
11 Securities & Investment $11,970

Cruz
1 Real Estate $26,039,132
2 Securities & Investment $12,216,700
3 Retired $3,952,630
4 Oil & Gas $910,221
5 Health Professionals $838,289
6 Lawyers/Law Firms $830,520
7 Misc Business $820,216
8 Misc Finance $801,823
9 Republican/Conservative $707,147
10 Recreation/Live Entertainment $556,700

Rubio
1 Securities & Investment $9,936,001
2 Automotive $6,154,645
3 Retired $4,473,341
4 Electronics Mfg & Equip $3,237,903
5 Health Professionals $3,133,929
6 TV/Movies/Music $2,154,725
7 Misc Finance $1,861,554
8 Real Estate $1,616,719
9 Building Materials & Equipment $1,585,171
10 Lawyers/Law Firms $1,158,582

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/indus.php?cycle=2016&id=N00023864&type=f
 

sunny225

Membership Revoked
All of them running are 'being bought' in some way or another.
None of them are lily white.
And it doesn't matter who gets elected, this country is over with.
If Americans all across this land don't stand up against the tyranny, corruption & treason from within, we are doomed.
 

Be Well

may all be well
That's funny; I was just thinking the same thing. He has this pattern of throwing an anti-Trump thing out there and then Trump supporters dig deep to shine the light in these dark corners.

That works for me just fine.

All that matters is facts. Emotionalism is not only useless in gauging who is the better candidate, it gets in the way. [PS - how do you like my new signature?]
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
All that matters is facts. Emotionalism is not only useless in gauging who is the better candidate, it gets in the way. [PS - how do you like my new signature?]

I like it.

I wonder how Sessions feels about Cruz's work to get the TPA passed and then voted no when it didn't matter.
 
JGF, you are really reaching on this one. Exactly how much air time do you think $10K will buy? Check out Cruz's and Rubio's donor lists with amounts (and don't forget the Super PAC money). I look forward to your publication of that information.

PS. Still waiting to see Cruz's and Rubio's Selective Service records. So far, you've only shared Trump's.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
Ok, I know this was supposed to be a post about Trump but digging around brings up all kinds of things.

More donor iffy-ness

CRUZ DONORS ACCUSED OF MONEY LAUNDERING, HELPING TAX CHEATS, PRO-AMNESTY REVISIONIST HISTORY

JANUARY 6, 2016 COACH COLLINS

It is doubtful that Ted Cruz supporters know these things about him. It is up to them to reconcile this information to continue supporting him.

Credit Suisse Group gave Cruz $33,442. CSG is under federal and international investigation as the money launderers for the crooks who ran FIFA the international soccer association.

Cruz has taken cash from both sides of the amnesty issue. He has received $705, 657 from the pro-amnesty Club For Growth and both financial and volunteer support from Wallbuilders, an anti- amnesty Evangelical group whose founder, David Barton, has written a book on Thomas Jefferson that is frankly ridiculous and justifiably mocked by Jeffersonian scholars.

Goldman Sachs gave Cruz $69,350. The pro-amnesty Goldman Sachs is under an FBI investigation that just started in June. It has a long history of dirty dealings and being a Democrat ATM. Is this money a “pay it forward” bribe to Cruz to save Goldman Sachs by having a “President Cruz” call the FBI off of his wife’s employer? BTW Goldman Sachs gave a fat envelope to Mitch McConnell – aren’t they on opposite sides of everything? It seems not.

Morgan, Lewis gave Cruz $67,550. They are an Illinois law firm being sued for allegedly helping a client cover up illegal tax shelters. The media would keep asking Cruz if he would help them out of this mess once elected president.

As soon as it became apparent that Cruz would be the Republican nominee, the media would jump on these things and paint Cruz as a fringe person not representative of the “American mainstream,” who is willing to overlook his donor’s criminal activities to keep the cash flowing.

It makes no difference what his supporters think, Cruz will have to defend Credit Suisse Group, Goldman Sachs, David Barton and the rest of this seedy bunch or lose their very big financial and volunteer support.

When called upon – and he will be- to explain taking say Credit Suisse Group’s cash how will Cruz talk his way out of it?

How will Cruz “walk through the rain drops” and reconcile his support from the anti-amnesty Wallbuilders and those of his open borders/ pro-amnesty other big money backers like these?

Sullivan & Cromwell gave Cruz $58,900. S&C they are a Wall Street trial lawyer firm that specializes in defending the “Wolf of Wall Street” types. So is Cruz for them or us when it comes time to cracking down on S&C’s clients?

As we have seen lately, when a candidate is explaining himself he is not making progress and usually falls in the polls.

It remains to be seen whether Cruz’s supporters can overlook these contradictions in his campaign.

Sources

http://www.wsj.com/articles/goldman-entangled-in-malaysia-fund-scandal-1444795262

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...ate-donald-trump-using-pro-rubio-media-firms/

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/30/news/companies/fifa-corruption-credit-suisse/

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/wall-street-scandals-fill-lawyers-pockets/

http://www.law360.com/articles/607785/morgan-lewis-sued-over-alleged-bdo-tax-shelter-conspiracy

http://www.coachisright.com/cruz-do...g-tax-cheats-pro-amnesty-revisionist-history/
 

Be Well

may all be well
JGF, you are really reaching on this one. Exactly how much air time do you think $10K will buy? Check out Cruz's and Rubio's donor lists with amounts (and don't forget the Super PAC money). I look forward to your publication of that information.

PS. Still waiting to see Cruz's and Rubio's Selective Service records. So far, you've only shared Trump's.

It's the PACs (what is the difference between "PACs" and "SuperPACs" anyway?) that are where the dirty controlling millions are the problem. And Trump doesn't have any and disavowed any that were started, it was without his permission or authority.
 

Conrad Nimikos

Who is Henry Bowman
Trump said he would not take money from big donors. I think he is lying because I heard one of his donors weighed more than 350 pounds!
 
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