Misc Off grid refrigeration

Old Gray Mare

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Vollger shows what he uses to maintain his onboard refrigeration system for a fridge and freezer. He has warnings for using foreign refrigerant gas for recharging. - OGM

Sailboat Refrigeration, Keep It Cool, R-134a, vid#11, Patrick Childress Sailing

Patrick Childress Sailing
Published on Apr 12, 2018
Keep your yachts refrigeration working coolly by planning ahead and having on hand and using the right refrigerant and tools.

Link to source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RqO2XCmtOI
Run time: 10:47
 

Old Gray Mare

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A DIY video on how this guy installs compressor driven refrigeration to a cold locker on his boat.

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Life is Like Sailing - I Finally Have Refrigeration!

Life is Like Sailing
Published on Jun 1, 2016
I finally return to the 1st world and put refrigeration in my boat!

Link to source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8zLZkXUulo
Run time 14:01
 

Old Gray Mare

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Zoning and building codes may make this illegal in some areas. I would want to check first. Also this is propane and can be dangerous. There are people in this world who have no business fiddling with something like this. I don't have enough knowlege to know if this is safe to do or not. It is dated 2013. The idea seems feasible but I don't know.

More info on install in next post. - OGM

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Install a (propane) RV Refrigerator into a Cabin, Cottage or Home

Install a RV Refrigerator into a Cabin, Cottage or Home

Published on May 29, 2013
With the summer fast approaching, the quest for cold beers and the ability to store food for longer periods would definitely keep the family happy and increase the moral. So, the propane RV refrigerator project shot up to the top of the list.

link to source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv-AfIhmgr4

run time 5:44
 

Old Gray Mare

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Images at source along with other DIY stuff. Still not sure how competent this guy is. Those who know please feel encouraged to comment or add more reliable or detailed sources to thread. - OGM

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Appliances, Food, Heat and Cooling
Installation of a RV Refrigerator into a Cabin

30 May , 2013

IMG_3168With the summer fast approaching, the quest for cold beers and the ability to store food for longer periods would definitely keep the family happy and increase the moral. Therefore, the propane RV refrigerator project shot up to the top of the list.

Prior to the propane fridge, we had a 12 volt Mobicool thermoelectric cooler. On hardware store shelf, it looked ideal for my humble 12 volt solar system and didn’t seem to draw a lot of amps. It cost around $100 dollars and was easy to move. But, the downside, was it had to run all the time, 24 hours a day! In about a day, it would drain the four 6 volt golf car batteries down to dangerous levels. I’d have to run the generator to charge the batteries back up. The fuel bill really started to get expensive. We ended up disconnecting it and use it as cooler with blocks of ice.

The next plan was a small refrigerator that would be used in a dorm room or under a bar, It ran only on AC current, but, we estimated it needed about 175 watts to run on the lowest setting. It worked without problems in the summer months and it was exciting to see it running full-time off my solar panels system. But, as the sun got lower in the sky, I noticed it started to draw more current and drain the batteries. Luckily the AC inverter had a low power setting and shut off the power before the batteries were damaged.
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One day, a good neighbour dropped off an old Dometic 12 Volt or propane refrigerator. He had upgraded to a bigger model and wasn’t using the smaller one. What a treat! Since I was new to propane appliances I was a little leery about bringing it inside. So for the first year, it was out on the back deck working ok. My spouse made small subtle comments about it looking a little junky for the neighbour. So, I decided to bring it indoors.

The only problem with the smaller style of RV refrigerators is that it needs to be inserted into a cabinet. The plan was to install it into a nifty wall/pantry unit, but, there just wasn’t enough time to build it. I suggested that we go to IKEA and check out the “As is” section for any cabinets or wall units that were big enough. Ended up finding a pantry unit with a couple of dents, but the price was right and was perfect for the space.

Before any building, I went online a found a user and installation manual. Dometic_Connecting_PointsIt said that the RV refrigerator can sit in a cabinet, but the chamber behind the cooling elements had to be made from non-combustible material. Went to my hardware store picked up some wall flashing and furnace ducting.

The plan was to make a box-in-a-box.

That way, if I did need to service the RV refrigerator, it could simple slide out of the chamber. The installation manual had all the measurements and I made a simple box out of plywood,

After assembling the IKEA pantry unit, I measured for the height of the plywood box and adjusted the shelf it was to sit on. Added a few more boards to the shelf for extra strength.

After the RV fridge was hoisted up and on to the pantry shelf, I went around the back and did some more measurements for a ventilation chamber for the wall.
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2″ x 4″ framing lumber was cut and moved to create a framed “window”

Since the cabin wall behind the fridge was not insulated yet, it was easy
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Chamber for the cooling elements was flashed so all wood is covered. Note the holes cut for upper and lower venting.

to trim the boards and build a frame. It looked like a window frame, accept there was no hole for a window. Once the lower, upper vents, hole for propane hose and exhaust for the flue were cut, the unit would slide back and screwed into place.

I piece of flashing was wrapped around the outside and screwed into place.
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Flu or the chimney for the fridge is on the top left.

For the exhaust flue, a 4″ dryer vent was fastened to the flue with pipe clamps. A larger 6″ hole was cut and flashed with furnace duct metal. To keep out drafts around the 4″ vent, a special high temp caulking used for wood stoves was pumped into the cavities. Spray foam was used in other spaces where there was no contact with heat.

Since the propane RV refrigerator project was completed, it been wonderful. We use it all year and it is really efficient on propane gas. A standard BBQ tank will last 2 months. My spouse is happy and in turn everyone is happy.

Link to source:
https://www.cedarworkshop.net/easy-...rigerator-into-a-cabin-cottage-or-tiny-house/
 

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Propane refrigerators are widely used in off-grid situations, and many RV's also have propane refrigerators. They are as safe as any propane appliance, and probably safer than some. They tend to be expensive, but are a good option if you can afford the propane and have a good supply of it.

There are other solutions for keeping food cool which don't require any electricity or fuel; spring houses, root cellars, hanging screened shelves with wet cloths hanging over the sides (these work best in dry climates), and the clay pot coolers which have become popular in India and Africa (also best in dry climates -- these last two work because of evaporation and in humid climates you don't get much of that).

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Publius

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They make RV style refrigerators and freezers for home use and the RV refrigerators can be used in a home, now they also make a few that run on kerosine rather than propane, they have a removable tank that you can refill and place it back in while its in operation and the burner is the same as table top oil lamps and uses common parts for this so they are easy to replace.

With no moving parts these refrigerators will last three generations as long as they don't beat them up. Part of the trick here is not to go for the biggest one you can find and 8 cubic foot to ten cubic foot is as big as they come and freezers up to 13 cubic foot. I have found many of the 4 and 8 cubic foot propane refrigerators if turned up far enough will freeze everything in them. You can step up the efficiency and save some propane by installing 12V whisper fans inside these are also avalable online and also as part of the outside ventilation on the backside of these units.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
it would seem illogical to install any other way - but the propane RV frigs need to dead nutz level - some are more tempermental than others ....
 
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