INTL Number of deaths in recent weeks leading to funeral delays, ( Ireland )

[Marthanoir]

Number of deaths in recent weeks leading to funeral delays.​

Mortuaries have been put under unprecedented pressure following a rise in the number of deaths.

Analysis of RIP.ie carried out by the Irish Examiner found there were more than 9,700 death notices published between December 1st and January 25th.

That is up 20 per cent compared to the same time last year.

The rise has resulted in capacity issues at Cork City Morgue, with bodies having to be stored in hospitals overnight.

The figure of 9.700 is also considerably higher than the 8,135 death notices published in the same period to January 25th, 2021, when the country was in the grip of the worst period of the Covid pandemic.

Pre-pandemic, 6,802 death notices were published in the eight weeks to January 25th, 2019, almost 3,000 fewer than in recent weeks.

“Between the 19th of December and the 3rd of January, over 100 deaths were reported to my office,” Philip Comyn, coroner for Cork city.

This is the most ever reported for this length of time, surpassing even the busiest period during the Covid-19 pandemic.

“The mortuary [at Cork University Hospital] had so many bodies it couldn’t take any more and the other Cork hospitals held onto their bodies overnight.”

Ivan Perry, of UCC School of Epidemiology and Public Health, said flu and other respiratory illnesses may be the reason for the alarming spike in deaths.

“It could also be that people are slightly more vulnerable post-Covid because there is a post-Covid elevated risk of heart disease for example, so that could be contributing to it as well.”

An analysis of RIP.ie shows there were 1,092 deaths in Cork alone from December 1st, 2022, to January 25th, 2023 — an increase of 16.4 per cent from a year earlier.

Death notices were at 1,007 in the December 2020 to January 2021 period, with numbers as low as 786 for the same period up to January 2019.

Number of deaths in recent weeks leading to funeral delays | BreakingNews.ie

The rise has resulted in capacity issues at Cork City Morgue, with bodies having to be stored in hospitals overnight.

www.breakingnews.ie

 

[naegling62]

Nothing to see here folks, move along and get your booster with a doughnut.

 

[Marthanoir]

Nothing to see here folks, move along and get your booster with a doughnut.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Keep in mind, this is not marked as a covid thread.

Be careful the terminology you use, and the questions you ask…..

These excess deaths likely are just flu and respiratory related, anyway.

 

[WalknTrot]

Sorta useless factoids without knowing cause of death stats. Some possibilities:

-More drunks and druggies post Covid.
-More depression and suicides.
-Out-of-reach expense for healthy food and fuel for heating homes.
-A population with generally crappy, neglected immune systems because with masks, over-cleanliness and quarantine, immune systems haven't been challenged to a normally robust state for three years.

Granted, Ireland (Euro version) is purported to have excellent health care, unlike the crashing and burning NHS in the UK parts, but all systems are stressed for staffing and resources these days.

 

[Dobbin]

Well, one's mind DOES go to the Georgia Guidestones - "Population not to exceed 500Million at any time." Georgia Guidestones - Wikipedia

And, it can take a surprisingly "small" minus to population to add up over time into a BIG reduction.

One's mind goes to the "sterile mosquito" technique of mosquito control - introduce a percentage of sterile mosquitoes to compete with the non-sterile and result in a "collapse" of the mosquito population. Sterile insect technique - Wikipedia Note particularly in this link the "successful" use models. And how pervasive genetic implementation and time can be.

And given "wokeness" how pervasive "suppression" by ghosting, or even access to employment can be in encouraging those of "acceptable" traits.

"That which you encourage you get more of."

And now you know why the illegal invasion of the US southern border are not "vetted" or addressed in their Covid shots or boosters. And every human need is addressed in their relocation to the US.

Just a new crop of "human chattel."

Dobbin

 

[Kathy in FL]

For the article all we need to know is that the number of deaths exceeds the infrastructure's ability to cope with them. Anything else is just add on ... such as cause of death.

Now if you've read anything from funeral directors for the last 20 years this won't be a surprise. In small towns, a multicar accident can strip the local infrastructure's ability to deal with it.

I'm not going to say this is a nothingburger, 20% over norm is a significant figure, but it isn't necessarily a surprise either. And "if it bleeds it leads" does come to mind.

 

[LightEcho]

There seems to be an epidemic of coincidence cases. Oh well.

 

[rondaben]

How does one calculate "excess deaths"?

 

[Luddite]

How does one calculate "excess deaths"?

Post 1 clearly stated how they got their number.

Month over month death notices. Not nearly scientific. Not nearly a reason to quibble over in this thread. Jmo

 

[subnet]

Keep in mind, this is not marked as a covid thread.

Be careful the terminology you use, and the questions you ask…..

These excess deaths likely are just flu and respiratory related, anyway.

Eggs..its the eggs

 

[Dobbin]

How does one calculate "excess deaths"?

I think this is done by looking at the historical. I.e. previous years.

There has been an "uptick" - a "step change" upwards from what would be normally expected.

Wars do this. As do "sudden contagion." As do "distinct change in the human condition" which can be weather or other adverse consequence. It can even be something as simple as "perception." One's mind goes to the Food Pyramid promoted by your FDA in the mid-20th century which seemingly has resulted in a uptick in cardiac death (i.e. the adverse connection between carbohydrates (sugars) and human cardiac longevity.)

One should note that the FDA Food Pyramid was caused primarily by lobbying efforts by the nation's carbohydrate producers - and had no connection to "human best health." The cardiac compromise the result of the "Wonder Bread Builds strong bodies twelve ways" generation. (i.e. alliance between Madison Avenue and big government.)

And there is a parallel between this and today's Pfizer/Moderna/Johnson-Johnson collusion with the CDC/FDA - and most of the Democratic Controlled Government (Deep State) Only this one is worse. (i.e. more fatal.)

And almost immediately detectable, instead of taking 20 years to be appreciated/critiqued.

A 20 percent step change in death rate would be IMMEDIATELY investigated in any normal civilization.

Dobbin

 

[Samuel Adams]

Eggs..its the eggs

Damn straight.

What was I thinking ?

 

[Marthanoir]

How does one calculate "excess deaths"?

Every local radio station reads out the daily deaths of people in that county , plus there is a central website RIP.ie


The figure of 9.700 is also considerably higher than the 8,135 death notices published in the same period to January 25th, 2021, when the country was in the grip of the worst period of the Covid pandemic.

Pre-pandemic, 6,802 death notices were published in the eight weeks to January 25th, 2019, almost 3,000 fewer than in recent weeks.

 

[mzkitty]

I'd be interested to know the ages of the deceased.

Are they mostly old folks, or are they mostly people "in the prime of life," or tons more kids than should be.

 

[33dInd]

How does one calculate "excess deaths"?

Isn’t the article just simple math comparison
I don’t know

 

[rondaben]

Right, so excess deaths are the difference between actual deaths and "expected deaths".

The guesstimate of "expected deaths" is the historical trend plus adjustments to the rate based on health trends, population age, etc.

The point being that there is no definitive "excess deaths" that are not subject to the same manipulation that the .gov does with "seasonally adjusted" rates or "hedonic adjustments" to inflation.

Death rates have for the most part trended higher in the west with an aging and sicker population for quite a while predating the pandemic. A good portion can be attributed to demographic changes. It's not cut and dry as many would wish it to be.

 

[BUBBAHOTEPT]

Well, things definitely got stranger, in terms of manipulation of all kinds of data, after January of 2020….

 

[Codeno]

I just got a notification that the ComfortTroll Alert System™ has been upgraded to DEFCON 2.

 

[dawgofwar10]

I was going to take a shot at why this happening, but without more substantial information I will refrain from commenting…

 

[Meadowlark]

We all know what we are really thinking.

 

[Meadowlark]

RIP and condolences, but I could not help myself on this one.

View: https://youtu.be/20xstCWkBco

 

[Marthanoir]

We all know what we are really thinking.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Well, one's mind DOES go to the Georgia Guidestones - "Population not to exceed 500Million at any time." Georgia Guidestones - Wikipedia

Georgia Guidestones... those were a myth, they don't even exist.

 

[Dobbin]

Georgia Guidestones... those were a myth, they don't even exist.

Misinformation...

Those at Davos really want you to be fruitful and multiply. And for you to ease your life easier through your own labors.

So generous...

Dobbin

 

[packyderms_wife]

Misinformation...

Those at Davos really want you to be fruitful and multiply. And for you to ease your life easier through your own labors.

So generous...

Dobbin

All while wearing rags and eating insects.

 

[Lone_Hawk]

Historically, there are more deaths over the holidays for lots of reasons. Is this report a regular monthly report, or was it a one off?

The reason that I ask that, is that it just strikes me as odd. Now, as we move into spring they can report that death rates have fallen over a such and such period of time.

 

[Marthanoir]

Historically, there are more deaths over the holidays for lots of reasons. Is this report a regular monthly report, or was it a one off?

The reason that I ask that, is that it just strikes me as odd. Now, as we move into spring they can report that death rates have fallen over a such and such period of time.

There is no report as such, many people have been commenting on how there are more deaths lately, my niece was driving home from work the other day and had to switch the radio off during the death announcements as she found it upsetting that there was so many.

Irish tradition around the importance of funerals can be hard to explain to non-Irish but we all check rip.ie several times daily for death announcements.

RIP.IE is updated through out the day, every day,

What the Irish Examiner newspaper did was go through the death announcements for the past 2 months and then compare it to the same Dec - Jan period if previous years.

 

[Marthanoir]

Taoiseach ( Irish Prime Minister ) Varadkar to seek advice from Health chief about rise in deaths.​

The Taoiseach is to seek advice from the chief medical officer over "concerns" around a spike in the number of deaths in recent weeks.

As the Irish Examiner reports, Leo Varadkar has told the Dáil an increase in the number of excess deaths "probably relates" to the fact that RSV, influenza, and Covid are all circulating at the moment, but he will be asking the CMO Professor Breda Smyth to examine the issue.

It comes after it was revealed that an increase in deaths has disrupted funeral arrangements and put mortuaries under unprecedented stress.

Analysis of death notices on the website rip.ie shows there were 9,718 published in the eight-week period from December 1st, 2022 to January 25th, 2023 — up 20 per cent from 8,075 in the same period a year earlier.

Mr Varadkar told the Dáil: "I am aware that in Ireland and in a lot of countries there has been a significant increase in excess deaths this winter, even more so than was the case during the pandemic, or at least during the lockdowns. That is a matter of concern.

"I am going to seek the advice and opinion of the Chief Medical Officer on it.

"It probably relates to the fact that RSV, influenza, and Covid are all circulating at the moment, against the backdrop of reduced immunity because people were socially distancing during the lockdowns, and also because there was a lot of unmet health need during the lockdowns which is now coming back at us.

"That is just my impression."

Varadkar to seek advice from Health chief about rise in deaths | BreakingNews.ie

Leo Varadkar has told the Dáil an increase in the number of excess deaths "probably relates" to the fact that RSV, influenza, and Covid are all circulating at the moment

www.breakingnews.ie

 

[Marthanoir]

Mr Varadkar told the Dáil: "I am aware that in Ireland and in a lot of countries there has been a significant increase in excess deaths this winter, even more so than was the case during the pandemic, or at least during the lockdowns. That is a matter of concern.

Drip, drip, drip....


And for those that don't know, Leo Varadkar is an experienced GP, he volunteered during Covid and worked in a hospital, his partner is a cardiologist, He'd be well aware of an increase in deaths and the causes.

 

[Chance]

Well, if it was JUST Ireland reporting on an alarming increase in excess deaths, one might be able to 'blow this off', but it's not. The U.S., Germany, the UK, Canada, Australia, and just recently Japan. And all of these excess deaths started after the Covid-19 vaccine rollout. Insurance actuaries are reporting a lot of this information - they are they ones keeping the extremely accurate records. The Japanese are reporting on an alarming increase in excess deaths in the below article - Japan is one of the highest, if not the highest, in Covid-19 vaccination rates.

The U.S. actuaries reported a 40% increase in excess deaths in 25 - 44 year olds (I might be a bit off on the age range - but it's the working age group - not OLD people!)

This isn't old people dying off.

This article from Japan is making a connection between the vaccine rollout and these excess deaths. They can't prove it's the vaccine, but they can't rule it out. Add this to what's happening to all the other highly vaccinated countries!

I found this information out of Japan shocking - they are finding that at autopsy, the vaccinated bodies have high body temperatures. Ummm...that's not suppose to be possible. And they are finding that only the vaccinated have these skin lesions that contain spike proteins. Ugh.

(I'm latching on to the Japanese article and posting the whole article in the Bombshelter thread on vaccine side effects.

https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/more-vaccine-side-effects.615499/page-41#post-9560473)

Japan
Before the vaccine, there was hardly any Covid-19 cases or deaths - now they have one of the highest Covid-19 infection rates and Covid-19 deaths in the world. With a higher vaccination rate than Canada or the U.S.!

Japanese Investigators Raise Alarm over Spike in Sudden Deaths - Slay News

Investigators in Japan are raising the alarm over the spike in sudden deaths and believe they have discovered a link behind the soaring excess fatality rates.

slaynews.com

Germany
"Newly released insurance data for 72 million people shows that unexpected deaths have been skyrocketing since the end of 2020.

The number of sudden deaths has more than doubled since late 2020, jumping from about 6,000 per quarter to 14,000 currently."

'Sudden Deaths' Explode in Germany, Experts Raise the Alarm - Slay News

Experts in Germany are raising the alarm after newly unsealed data shows that "sudden deaths" are exploding in the country.

slaynews.com

Australia
"Australia’s peak actuarial body is calling on the government to urgently investigate the country’s spike in deaths this year.

An analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) data by the Actuaries Institute shows a 13 percent rise in deaths during 2022."

Australia Raises Alarm: Citizens Dying at 'Incredibly High' Rate - Slay News

Officials in Australia are raising the alarm as the country's excess deaths have soared to an "incredibly high" rate.

slaynews.com

 

[Kathy in FL]

The number really isn’t that surprising. The number of baby boomers reaching expiration date is going to increase exponentially for a while.

 

[Walrus Whisperer]

Georgia Guidestones... those were a myth, they don't even exist.

There's a reason those were taken out. Can't have the hoi polloi knowing what's coming for them.

 

[medic38572]

We all know what we are really thinking.

You just cannot say it out loud....

 

[Countrymouse]

Right, so excess deaths are the difference between actual deaths and "expected deaths".

The guesstimate of "expected deaths" is the historical trend plus adjustments to the rate based on health trends, population age, etc.

The point being that there is no definitive "excess deaths" that are not subject to the same manipulation that the .gov does with "seasonally adjusted" rates or "hedonic adjustments" to inflation.

Death rates have for the most part trended higher in the west with an aging and sicker population for quite a while predating the pandemic. A good portion can be attributed to demographic changes. It's not cut and dry as many would wish it to be.

I believe insurance actuaries would totally disagree with you.

20% in one year is nothing to ........sneeze..........at...

 

[Countrymouse]

We all know what we are really thinking.

You just cannot say it out loud....

Can't let that elephant in the room do no talkin', now...

 

[Countrymouse]

Well, if it was JUST Ireland reporting on an alarming increase in excess deaths, one might be able to 'blow this off', but it's not. The U.S., Germany, the UK, Canada, Australia, and just recently Japan. And all of these excess deaths started after the Covid-19 vaccine rollout. Insurance actuaries are reporting a lot of this information - they are they ones keeping the extremely accurate records. The Japanese are reporting on an alarming increase in excess deaths in the below article - Japan is one of the highest, if not the highest, in Covid-19 vaccination rates.

The U.S. actuaries reported a 40% increase in excess deaths in 25 - 44 year olds (I might be a bit off on the age range - but it's the working age group - not OLD people!)

This isn't old people dying off.

This article from Japan is making a connection between the vaccine rollout and these excess deaths. They can't prove it's the vaccine, but they can't rule it out. Add this to what's happening to all the other highly vaccinated countries!

I found this information out of Japan shocking - they are finding that at autopsy, the vaccinated bodies have high body temperatures. Ummm...that's not suppose to be possible. And they are finding that only the vaccinated have these skin lesions that contain spike proteins. Ugh.

(I'm latching on to the Japanese article and posting the whole article in the Bombshelter thread on vaccine side effects.

https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/more-vaccine-side-effects.615499/page-41#post-9560473)

Japan
Before the vaccine, there was hardly any Covid-19 cases or deaths - now they have one of the highest Covid-19 infection rates and Covid-19 deaths in the world. With a higher vaccination rate than Canada or the U.S.!

Japanese Investigators Raise Alarm over Spike in Sudden Deaths - Slay News

Investigators in Japan are raising the alarm over the spike in sudden deaths and believe they have discovered a link behind the soaring excess fatality rates.

slaynews.com

Germany
"Newly released insurance data for 72 million people shows that unexpected deaths have been skyrocketing since the end of 2020.

The number of sudden deaths has more than doubled since late 2020, jumping from about 6,000 per quarter to 14,000 currently."

'Sudden Deaths' Explode in Germany, Experts Raise the Alarm - Slay News

Experts in Germany are raising the alarm after newly unsealed data shows that "sudden deaths" are exploding in the country.

slaynews.com

Australia
"Australia’s peak actuarial body is calling on the government to urgently investigate the country’s spike in deaths this year.

An analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) data by the Actuaries Institute shows a 13 percent rise in deaths during 2022."

Australia Raises Alarm: Citizens Dying at 'Incredibly High' Rate - Slay News

Officials in Australia are raising the alarm as the country's excess deaths have soared to an "incredibly high" rate.

slaynews.com

B-b-b-but it CAN'T be true!

It doesn't fit my preconceived ideals of HOW THINGS ARE...........!

 

[Old Gray Mare]

RIP and condolences, but I could not help myself on this one.

View: https://youtu.be/20xstCWkBco

Meadowlark that was sick, hilarious but sick. I laughed so hard DH had to ask what I was watching. I said a funeral procession. Now he looks worried. That was just too funny!