GOV/MIL Notebooks uncovered in library show how close Japan was to building wartime nuclear bomb

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Notebooks uncovered in university library show how close Japan was to building wartime nuclear bomb

Notebooks found in university show how close Japan got to acquiring nuclear bomb in 1940s before US struck Hiroshima and Nagasaki

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 01 July, 2015, 10:14am
UPDATED : Wednesday, 01 July, 2015, 11:53am
Julian Ryall in Tokyo

Previously unseen documents have been discovered in a university library in Japan that will shed new light on just how close Japanese scientists were to developing a nuclear weapon during the second world war.

As the nation prepares to mark the 70th anniversary of the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki this year, three notebooks, containing hand-written calculations by a scientist working on equipment to produce enriched uranium for a weapon, have been found at Kyoto University.

Previously known as Kyoto Imperial University, the institute was at the forefront of research into nuclear physics during the war and had been charged by the Japanese navy with studying the feasibility of developing an atomic weapon.

The notebooks are dated October and November 1944 and were apparently the findings of Sakae Shimizu, a researcher who worked for Bunsaku Arakatsu, known as the foremost nuclear scientist in Japan in the 1940s.

Arakutsu had studied in Cambridge and under Einstein at Berlin University and in 1943 was tasked with achieving the separation of Uranium-235 with centrifuges. The research was given the code-name F-Go Project.

Due to a chronic shortage of raw materials, progress on the project, as well as a parallel scheme by the army, was slow. It was also disrupted by air raids on Japan as the war wore on, although the Allies were not apparently aware of the nuclear programmes and did not target the research centres.

In April 1945, the army's project was abandoned when the research facility in Tokyo was badly damaged in air raids.

Had the weapon been perfected before Japan's surrender, however, there is little likelihood a desperate government in Tokyo would not have used it against its enemies, given the chance.

"I think there were generally fewer qualms at a time of total war about the nuclear weapons programmes of all sides, as well as fewer qualms about the indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets," Jun Okumura, a visiting scholar at the Meiji Institute for Global Affairs, told The South China Morning Post.

"I don't think there is much to separate the saturation bombing of Dresden with the single nuclear weapon that was dropped on Hiroshima," he said.

"Nothing can be proven, of course, but it's not very difficult to assume that if Japan had a nuclear weapon, it would have used it," he added.

A bigger problem for the Japanese military would have been delivering any weapon to its target. By 1945, Japan's navy and air force was decimated, although a government that encouraged kamikaze attacks by aircraft, ships and submarines might have been willing to attempt a similar suicide mission.

Instead, the first nuclear attack in history took place against the city of Hiroshima on August 6, 1945.

Historians are studying the notebooks to determine just how advanced Arakatsu's team was before the war came to an end, and they point out few documents from Japan's nuclear research projects survived as they were quickly seized by the Occupation forces after the surrender.

In an interview with The New York Times in 1946, Arakatsu claimed his team was making "tremendous strides" towards making an atomic bomb. The documents provide details on the equipment required to separate and enrich Uranium-235, the Asahi newspaper reported, which would have given the scientists the key ingredient for the chain reaction required to achieve nuclear fission.

One of the books has the Japanese words for ultracentrifugal separation written on the cover and includes tables showing the revolutions required to achieve separation and copies of foreign research papers. Other pages provide details on the lengths and diameters or parts required to build a centrifuge.

Historians had previously been unable to confirm research into the construction of a centrifuge took place at the university.

This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as War papersshed lighton atomicresearch
 

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This doesn't matter in the slightest. Towards the end of the war, the Japanese could've been given the complete plans for the Little Boy Uranium bomb or the Fat Man Plutonium bomb on a silver platter and they would have been completely useless to them. The Japanese did not have any appreciable amounts of the necessary u-235 or pu-239 fuel for those weapons and they had no means of producing it.

Both isotopes are extremely difficult to produce and this has been a godsend to the modern world! If fissile materials could be easily produced on someone’s kitchen table you can be sure that we'd be having atomic bombs going off on a regular basis as the latest nutcase tried his home-brew!

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Housecarl

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This doesn't matter in the slightest. Towards the end of the war, the Japanese could've been given the complete plans for the Little Boy Uranium bomb or the Fat Man Plutonium bomb on a silver platter and they would have been completely useless to them. The Japanese did not have any appreciable amounts of the necessary u-235 or pu-239 fuel for those weapons and they had no means of producing it.

Both isotopes are extremely difficult to produce and this has been a godsend to the modern world! If fissile materials could be easily produced on someone’s kitchen table you can be sure that we'd be having atomic bombs going off on a regular basis as the latest nutcase tried his home-brew!

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Yeah, when you're resorting to making aircraft gasoline from tree roots, which the Japanese were doing in the end, and you're blockaded by unrestricted submarine warfare, you're pretty pinched on resources for anything exotic and unproven, unlike the war gases they had stockpiled that the Allies had to get rid of immediately after the surrender to prevent them from being used by anyone upon the occupation forces.

But if you're not under sanctions and have access to the world market for materials you can't source internally it is "doable", both in terms of design and manufacturing infrastructure. The South African, Israeli, Chinese (PRC), Swedish, Swiss, Brazilian, French, Indian, Pakistani, Iranian and North Korean programs being examples of this.

The LLNL "Nth Country Experiment" proved that in the mid-1960s.

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/20030701/nth-country.pdf

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This experiment proved that anyone could design a nuclear weapon
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Do you have, say, ten years to spare? Then you could probably design a functional nuclear weapon. We know that, because of a very odd experiment conducted in the 1960s by the United States government.

In the 1960s World War II was well over, and the United States and the Soviet Union were both settling into a nice, long, cold war. Both countries were nervous, knowing that each had designed and built nuclear weapons. At least, though, they were the only two countries that could manage it. But how long would it take until the next country built a weapon? This set the stage for a strange experiment, conducted by the United States.

It was called the Nth Country Experiment. The idea was, the United States was the first country to design nuclear weapons. The Soviet Union was the second. What country would be the Nth? There was no available data on the idea yet. There couldn't be. The United States' development of the atom bomb happened under extraordinary circumstances - including the circumstance of not knowing whether the idea was even feasible. The Soviet Union wasn't going to talk about how they developed their bomb - although by that time the US knew they'd had spies in the Manhattan Project. The Nth Country Experiment was meant to estimate what the probability that any other country could develop such weapons given basic knowledge.

In 1964, the US picked three young physics students who had gotten their PhDs in physics but hadn't had any specific education on weapons. They were given a salary, a basic support staff, and all publicly available information on nuclear weapons. They were then asked to design a nuclear bomb. The United States wanted to know if a small number of bright people, with sufficient motivation and the knowledge that such bombs were possible, could come up with the right design. No one had to wait too long. In 1967, the PhDs presented the officials of the Nth Country Experiment with a design for, what all the established bomb designers agreed, was a working atomic bomb. The design was a little over-fussy, but it was functional and, with a larger staff, or a little experimentation, it wouldn't take long to refine.

The results of the Nth Country Experiment were not comforting, but they did shed light on what delays countries in building nuclear weapons. Clearly, it's not technical expertise in the design of the bomb.

The reason there's such a lid placed upon laser isotope separation technology is that not only is it a much smaller facility foot print, it is also extremely more efficient than centrifuge or chemical separation of isotopes.

That makes the proliferation concern all the more problematic.

ETA: On just the weapon design side, recall also the work of John Aristotle Phillips in 1976-77 on his undergraduate paper in which he designed a nuclear weapon from open sourced materials and eventually had it confiscated by the Feds. Also the historical engineering research work of John Coster-Mullen on the first US weapons.
 
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tiger13

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There was a book, that I had around here at one time until a move, that talked about material that was shipped by German U boat to be shared with the Japanese, although I believe that information of the shipment was know because the Enigma code had been cracked by this time, and the sub was sunk and it was never received.
 

Illini Warrior

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if you know anything about the size and the scope of the Manhattan Project that was needed to produce the two US nuk bombs - a Jap bomb or even a NAZI bomb was physically impossible under their wartime conditions ....
 
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