CORONA Not Even N95 Masks Work To Stop Covid

Blacknarwhal

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Dr. The Science will be appearing live on television to offer a retraction and a public apology, scheduled for 20 minutes after hell freezes over.

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Not Even N95 Masks Work To Stop Covid​


Authored by Ian Miller via the Brownstone Institute,

“The Experts™” have repeatedly tried to deflect from the failure of their policies with misdirection.

The reason lockdowns didn’t work in the United States or the United Kingdom is because they weren’t strict enough, according to many in the expert community.

Of course, their excuses have been conveniently ignored as China’s repressive zero COVID lockdowns have continued, with horrific consequences.

Now that mass protests have broken out in the country that “The Experts™” revered for their COVID handling, there’s a massive effort to disregard their own previous advocacy.

This is perhaps best exemplified by Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who clearly used authoritarian measures to suppress the protests in his own country, while now supporting Chinese demonstrations.

The bewildering lack of awareness of their own hypocrisy seems to be a feature of COVID-obsessed politicians and public health authorities.

Another similar, oft-repeated assertion is that the failure of universal masking can be explained by the type of masks being used by the public.

Even though the CDC and Dr. Fauci explicitly claimed that wearing anything to cover your face would be effective at preventing transmission, many have now quietly dismissed that messaging.

Fauci specifically said that “cloth coverings work,” not just surgical or N95s. Former Surgeon General Jerome Adams famously suggested that rolling up a t-shirt in front of your face would be effective protection.

Yet public health departments and the media are now highlighting the importance of “high quality,” “well-fitted” masks.

Their desperation to justify masking has led to remarkably poor studies being released to support their anti-science messaging.

There is new research that has been released showing that masks are ineffective, regardless of type.

And it’s not just new research, it’s high quality research.

Finally, Another RCT on Mask Wearing​

The Annals of Internal Medicine just published a randomized controlled trial comparing the ability of medical masks to prevent COVID infection to fit-tested N95s.

Importantly, this trial was conducted on healthcare workers who would be most likely to use masks appropriately.
To determine whether medical masks are noninferior to N95 respirators to prevent COVID-19 in health care workers providing routine care.
That trial design was also important as it was meant to determine whether or not N95 respirators were superior to “regular” surgical masks.

They examined 29 different health care facilities on multiple continents, from North America to Asia and Africa.

The percentage of healthcare workers testing positive for COVID in each group was tracked to determine how effective or ineffective higher-quality masking was in preventing infection.

Unsurprisingly, the results confirmed that there is essentially zero difference between surgical or N95 respirators when it comes to tests results.
In the intention-to-treat analysis, RT-PCR–confirmed COVID-19 occurred in 52 of 497 (10.46%) participants in the medical mask group versus 47 of 507 (9.27%) in the N95 respirator group (hazard ratio
, 1.14 [95% CI, 0.77 to 1.69]). An unplanned subgroup analysis by country found that in the medical mask group versus the N95 respirator group RT-PCR–confirmed COVID-19 occurred in 8 of 131 (6.11%) versus 3 of 135 (2.22%) in Canada (HR, 2.83 [CI, 0.75 to 10.72]), 6 of 17 (35.29%) versus 4 of 17 (23.53%) in Israel (HR, 1.54 [CI, 0.43 to 5.49]), 3 of 92 (3.26%) versus 2 of 94 (2.13%) in Pakistan (HR, 1.50 [CI, 0.25 to 8.98]), and 35 of 257 (13.62%) versus 38 of 261 (14.56%) in Egypt (HR, 0.95 [CI, 0.60 to 1.50]). There were 47 (10.8%) adverse events related to the intervention reported in the medical mask group and 59 (13.6%) in the N95 respirator group.


52 of 497 participants who wore medical masks got COVID-19, and 47 of 507 in the N95 group got COVID-19.

No matter how “high quality” your mask is, it’s entirely irrelevant.

The researchers also took pains to ensure that the control and treatment groups shared as many similarities as possible.

They excluded workers who could not pass a fit test, had laboratory-confirmed COVID, or “had received 1 or more doses of a COVID-19 vaccine with greater than 50% efficacy for the circulating strain.”

Yet none of that mattered; there was no difference in outcomes between the medical and N95 level masks.

The N95s in use were even specifically fit tested and approved respirators, far from the KN95s commonly used by the general public.
“Health care workers randomly assigned to the N95 respirator group were instructed to use a fit-tested National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health–approved N95 respirator when providing routine care to patients with COVID-19 or suspected COVID-19.”
It didn’t matter.

Even more importantly, these disappointing results were from facilities with universal masking policies in place.

Everyone, in each health care facility, “for all activities,” was required to wear masks.
The intervention included universal masking, which was the policy implemented at each site. This refers to the use of a mask when in the health care facility for all activities, whether patient related or not, including in workrooms, meetings, and treating persons that were not suspected or known to be positive for COVID-19.
It still didn’t work.

They even tracked potential exposure points, whether at home, in the community or in hospital exposures.

There was no difference.

What’s even more impressive about the futility of masking is that outside of Egypt, the observed results occurred before the more contagious Omicron variant emerged.

There were substantial differences in results between countries, which indicates the impact of N95s might have been further muted had it covered the Omicron period.

Canada, which was observed pre-Omicron, showed the biggest “benefit” to N95s, while post-Omicron Egypt was nearly identical.

It’s possible that the mild difference in Canada could have been erased entirely if subjected to the Omicron era.

On top of being functionally useless, N95s were substantially more likely to result in adverse effects.

According to the results page, there were significantly more reported issues in the respirator group:
“There were 47 (10.8%) adverse events related to the intervention reported in the medical mask group and 59 (13.6%) in the N95 respirator group.”
This becomes even more noteworthy since compliance with respirator masking was lower.
“Adherence with the assigned medical mask or N95 respirator was self-reported as “always” in 91.2% in the medical mask group versus 80.7% in the N95 respirator group and as “always” or “sometimes” in 97.7% in the medical mask group versus 94.4% in the N95 respirator group.”

While still extremely high, health care workers “always” wore N95s 80.7% of the time instead of 91.2% for medical masks.

This is one of the many issues the “experts” now pushing for (now disproven) “higher-quality” masking should address.

Health care professionals who are trained to use N95s can’t always use them yet experience higher rates of adverse effects.

Imagine how much worse compliance would be among the general public, especially if 13% are suffering significant side effects.

Results Show Expert Incompetence​

This is yet another randomized controlled trial to show that masks do not work.

It also confirms the DANMASK study conducted earlier in the pandemic, which proved there was no benefit from masking in COVID prevention.

Even the Bangladeshi study, comparing villages, showed there was no benefit to masking at a population level. They used statistical misdirection and purposeful p-hacking to try and generate a positive result, and still could only get to a ~10% reduction for those over 50.

No matter the quality, no matter the compliance, masks are entirely ineffective at preventing transmission or infection.

The participants in this examination lived and worked in environments where universal masking was a requirement.

It didn’t matter.

This also examined health care workers, who, in theory, would be using and disposing of medical or N95 level masks properly.

There was no difference.

Now imagine how much worse the results would look for mask fanatics if it examined the Fauci-approved cloth coverings.

If “The Experts™” actually cared about following “the science,” or “the evidence,” this would once again be the nail in the coffin for masking.

More like the 40th nail in the coffin.

We have observational evidence through population-level comparisons that masks do not prevent the spread of COVID.



We also now have multiple randomized controlled trials confirming that masks do not prevent the spread of COVID.

And we have extremely well done comparisons of neighboring jurisdictions confirming it.

All the mask fanatics have is politically motivated wishful thinking, desperate advocacy from disproven CDC “studies,” and a commitment to avoiding reality.

Fauci and his health authority allies have lied to the public repeatedly about masking. The obsession with credentialism and appeals to authority within the media has resulted in tremendous, unjustified harm.

You’d hope that results like these would finally end their ridiculous posturing, but it’s abundantly clear they’re too dug in to ever relent.

But thankfully those paying attention now have even more ammunition in the fight for the inarguable scientific reality that masks do not work.
 

Satanta

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Noticed this advertisement in the above article at source.

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That is the Sites Algorithym not the Writer of the Article..

Locally I still see a mix of masks worn-mostly at Dr. offices and people in Pharm but a few businesses still require employees to mask then the random person wearing a mask shopping-most wear it wrong anyway, covering their mouths but not their Noseholes.

Had to go to the VA. Wearing an N95 [[We keep some in the Jepp]] because you are Req'd to mask. Actually got stopped by security and told I could not wear the N95 and handed a thin paper mask that might stop Covid if it was the size of a Tennis Ball.
 

vessie

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That is the Sites Algorithym not the Writer of the Article..

Locally I still see a mix of masks worn-mostly at Dr. offices and people in Pharm but a few businesses still require employees to mask then the random person wearing a mask shopping-most wear it wrong anyway, covering their mouths but not their Noseholes.

Had to go to the VA. Wearing an N95 [[We keep some in the Jepp]] because you are Req'd to mask. Actually got stopped by security and told I could not wear the N95 and handed a thin paper mask that might stop Covid if it was the size of a Tennis Ball.
Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle and their clinics do that. V
 
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psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My practitioner office still requires a mask.
But she’s located at the hospital too
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I took a 3m 6000 series respirator and got a 3d printed 3dm bayonet to 40mm nato adapter and ran dual CBRN cartridge filters good to 0.1 microns. The problem is bad science and no products cheaply available on the market that are effective. Outside of my custom solution the only other off the shelf option is a positive air pressure respirator which cost somewhere around 1-2k.
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
Good article, but is yesterday's news.

From the beginning knowledgeable people have been saying that these masks are a helpful at stopping the transmission of a virus as erecting a chain link fence in your back yard to stop the flight of mosquitoes.

It's all about control of the sheep.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Good article, but is yesterday's news.

From the beginning knowledgeable people have been saying that these masks are a helpful at stopping the transmission of a virus as erecting a chain link fence in your back yard to stop the flight of mosquitoes.

It's all about control of the sheep.
Which is why I built together my mask which was good to 0.1 microns. Too many have no clue about particle physics and filtration effects.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Fair use from OP.
52 of 497 participants who wore medical masks got COVID-19, and 47 of 507 in the N95 group got COVID-19....

....this trial was conducted on healthcare workers who would be most likely to use masks appropriately.

So it looks like the N95's didn't provide significantly more protection than the "medical masks" that are IMHO more fashion statements than PPE? Participating healthcare workers could have been asymptomatic or acquired natural immunity from repeated exposure by the time the study was taken? Wonder what the probability asymptomatic cases were missed by the study?

It's gotten so I don't trust "studies" or medical experts anymore.
 
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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Fair use from OP.

So the "medical masks" that are IMHO more fashion statements than PPE and N95's may have provided some protection or maybe inhibited wearers from touching their mouth and nose.

Negligible at best, I'd say.

52 / 497 = 10.463%
47 / 507 = 9.27%

There's essentially a one percent difference between the masks and the PPE. They caught Covid at virtually the same rate.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Negligible at best, I'd say.

52 / 497 = 10.463%
47 / 507 = 9.27%

There's essentially a one percent difference between the masks and the PPE. They caught Covid at virtually the same rate.
Most of it was because they were being reused. And sterile contact protocols are impossible when required wearing is everywhere...
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
I am having a hard time remembering when I last saw someone masked up here. I'm sure they're out there - about like seeing a lynx family I guess - have to be at the right place at the right time.
 

undead

Veteran Member
Which is why I built together my mask which was good to 0.1 microns. Too many have no clue about particle physics and filtration effects.
well, ain't that special

and your answer is? have the government require even more stringent masking, down to almost suffocation?
 

Knoxville's Joker

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well, ain't that special

and your answer is? have the government require even more stringent masking, down to almost suffocation?
No I just be an butt and say your employer wants to kill you as my mask actually stops covid yours is askin to a putting up a chain link fenced in enclosure outside and expecting it to stop mosquitos...
 

meandk0610

Veteran Member
I found the country breakdown interesting. Where were all of the masks made? Was Egypt using masks made in China while Canada used masks made in the USA? I know they’re supposed to meet the same criteria but, having worn both, those made in China are always harder for me to get a good seal than the ones made in the USA by 3M or Armbrust. It seemed that the countries more likely to use cheaper masks imported from China got much worse results.

Also, tiny sample size. :shr:
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
You can buy boxes of N 95 masks at the Bargain Bin in Normal Iliinois for only a dollar.

If you sand, or do drywall work, etc....dust particles, cleaning out chicken coops, etc...dusty environments, nows the time to buy.

Disclaimer....not good for viruses.
Mark
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle and their clinics do that. V
That is the Sites Algorithym not the Writer of the Article..

Locally I still see a mix of masks worn-mostly at Dr. offices and people in Pharm but a few businesses still require employees to mask then the random person wearing a mask shopping-most wear it wrong anyway, covering their mouths but not their Noseholes.

Had to go to the VA. Wearing an N95 [[We keep some in the Jepp]] because you are Req'd to mask. Actually got stopped by security and told I could not wear the N95 and handed a thin paper mask that might stop Covid if it was the size of a Tennis Ball.
Sat and Vessie, do you know WHY they required the regular mask over the N95? That doesn’t make sense.
 

Knoxville's Joker

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Sat and Vessie, do you know WHY they required the regular mask over the N95? That doesn’t make sense.
Supply chain issues. Plus it was all about optics, not science. THe masks were part of a dehumanization campaign to try and force more overall compliance by the populace. A lead up to China's zero-COVID policy...
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Sat and Vessie, do you know WHY they required the regular mask over the N95? That doesn’t make sense.
Because they’re marching to the Party’s tune.

One of my close friends has her own practice now and thinks the whole paper mask mask thing is pure bullshit.

It may be a King county mandate. V
 
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Satanta

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Sat and Vessie, do you know WHY they required the regular mask over the N95? That doesn’t make sense.
I just want to say they are Stupid but Vessie and Knoxville's Joker gave decent answers. Still, the paper mask instead of the N95 I was wearing shows a lack of Knowledge on their part. but even at the Nephrologist or FL's pain Doc=I see all kinds of crap on people's faces and often worn wrong even by the Staff. Makes me want to wear a pair of FL's panties and see what happens.

New roomie wears one-keeps it in his pocket. Told him it was both useless and dirty but he insists. The Brainwashing is Tight in a lotof people.
 

kjacks

Senior Member
Which is why I built together my mask which was good to 0.1 microns. Too many have no clue about particle physics and filtration effects.
The CDC website says the virus is 0.06 microns, the N95 masks would let 10 virus' thru side by side, yours only 2 wide...
 

Redleg

Veteran Member
Isn't this the same group that told us that the virus would survive on a surface for several days?:whistle:
And does it not make sense that the mask does not filter particles below a certain size of which
the virus is smaller than what the mask filters?
Just saying. That's all.
 

flying screwdriver

Veteran Member
Yep methinks this is more the problem.

I wear a N95 for severe allergy (deli, detergents, and what peeps put on their skank to make it smell good). I only wear it for less than 15 minutes cause I live like a hermit anyway, stay outside, and shop like a mad looter to get out.
Not because of Covid, but cause damn peeps wear too much stank to cover up their skank.

It only slows down exposure i.e. I can spend more time near allergens before I feel it. It’s senseless to re-use it, cause whatever allergen it was blocking is on the outside of the mask. After a couple of uses it makes it worse.

If I wear it and know I was in a cloud of allergen? I remove it AND my glasses, wash my hands and then my face gets wiped to keep it out of my eyes.

How do you keep a mask in place for 8 hours, then remove it, without exposing yourself? No one can do that. And only ONE mask? Great if it’s a random exposure, but it needs to be replaced with each known exposure, I know that don’t happen!
Even if they work that's all null and void with all the handling of the masks.

Everyone touched them constantly. Then touches everything else.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Well, of course not.

Anybody who really needs an N-95 for protection over the course of their job has to undergo a fit test (for us it was every 6 months) performed by the health & safety crew, to certify that the mask actually worked and fit properly. They are supposed to seal around your face. If not, you get shuffled into the pressurized "space helmet" PAPR rig. Breathing through an N-95 is a lot of work for your respiratory system. My employer required a doctor's check-off that you were fit enough, and frankly, these days about 75% of the population probably couldn't hack it physically at rest, let alone while working.

I usually only needed to wear an N-95 against dust particles that contained nasties. For viruses? Give me a break. To actually be effective in the real world, you work under a biosafety cabinet - hepa-filtered flow hood, still gear up in Tyvek, gloves, booties, and PAPR headgear plus get a lot of training in how to use it all.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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The masks actually create a vector of cross contamination with the face. It really doesn't matter what kind of mask it is. The constant adjusting, on and off, taking the mask off without washing your hands first, etc. all creates opportunities for cross contamination. It is like wearing a toilet seat on your face.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
And we are right back to one solution does NOT fit all...
Whether it is the:
Jab
Mask
Medicare Advantage
Medicare Supplement etc…….

There should never be MANDATES in these types of situation. That is the real problem that the reward and punishment perverts have manifested in all areas of our lives... :kaid:
 

wab54

Veteran Member
Virus germs are too small to be stopped by an N95 filter. That is SCIENCE 101 stuff. Whether they admit it or not, every medical person knows that.

WAB
 
Well, of course not.

Anybody who really needs an N-95 for protection over the course of their job has to undergo a fit test (for us it was every 6 months) performed by the health & safety crew, to certify that the mask actually worked and fit properly. They are supposed to seal around your face. If not, you get shuffled into the pressurized "space helmet" PAPR rig. Breathing through an N-95 is a lot of work for your respiratory system. My employer required a doctor's check-off that you were fit enough, and frankly, these days about 75% of the population probably couldn't hack it physically at rest, let alone while working.

I usually only needed to wear an N-95 against dust particles that contained nasties. For viruses? Give me a break. To actually be effective in the real world, you work under a biosafety cabinet - hepa-filtered flow hood, still gear up in Tyvek, gloves, booties, and PAPR headgear plus get a lot of training in how to use it all.
I had a temp engineering job at a hospital and was fit tested. They had a way to twist the bottom of the mask to tighten the seal. Never actually did any work in it.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
I still see folks with masks on around here. Live and let live. As long as I am not forced to comply I really don't care.

Yeah, likewise. I don't mind telling them that what they're doing is wholly pointless but if they want to, or if it makes them feel better, go right ahead. It's an utter waste of time, but you're welcome to waste your time in any fashion you see fit. Or should be, anyway.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Remember...It was The Cure
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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
"I am going to be working with @FLSurgeonGen to hold these vaccine manufacturers accountable. They made claims about the mRNA vaccine that wasn't true, and people were injured as a result." - @GovRonDeSantis
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Nice sound bite, but wasn't the deck already stacked against such a move before the needles even hit doctor's offices?
 
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