WAR North Korean leader predicts war with the South

[Spirit Of Truth]

Just came across this. Keep in mind Russia's secret war plans.

North Korean leader predicts war with the South

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/connectasia/stories/201008/s2993996.htm

Listen: http://www.abc.net.au/ra/connectasia/stories/m1913175.asx

Updated August 26, 2010 11:14:21

North Korea's number-two leader has told a gathering of military leaders in Pyongyang that the Korean peninsula is on the brink of war.

And South Korea's defence ministry has revealed that the North has begun a massive deployment of troops, artillery and tanks near Pyongyang but many believe this could be for a military parade designed as a show of the communist state's vast arsenal. The developments come as former US President Jimmy Carter arrived in North Korea to secure the release of an American citizen sentenced to eight years hard labour for illegally entering the country.

Presenter: Mark Willacy

Speakers: Kim Yong-nam, president of the Presidium of the DPRK Supreme People's Assembly; PJ Crowley, spokesman for the US State Department

(crowd cheering)

MARK WILLACY: It was three cheers all round for the Dear Leader at the Pyongyang gymnasium as North Korea's top brass got together to mark 50 years of the country's Military First policy.

There wasn't a dishevelled peasant in sight only row after row of pressed olive green army uniforms topped with gigantic epaulettes. And the master of ceremonies was the hermit kingdom's number two leader Kim Yong-nam.

KIM YONG-NAM (translation): Despite our nation's economic crisis we are now able to produce as many innovative weapons as we want, all by supporting the party's revolutionary line.

(Applause)

MARK WILLACY: But after heaping praise on his nation's supposed industrial and military achievements, Kim Yong-nam waited for the choreographed applause to die down before issuing a warning to Seoul and its ally in Washington.

KIM YONG-NAM (translation): Because of the US imperialists and their South Korean puppet group of traitors' reckless military provocation against our republic, the peninsula is on the brink of war. This is the worst situation ever.

MARK WILLACY: North Korea's military is certainly on the move with the defence ministry in Seoul tracking large deployments of troops, tanks and artillery rolling closer to the capital Pyongyang.

They'll likely be used in a show of military might, a massive parade to mark the first meeting of the North Korean Workers' Party in 30 years.

That meeting next month could be used to officially announce Kim Jong-Il's third son Jong-un as the Dear Leader's successor.

But any moment now there's likely to be another crucial meeting between North Korea's leadership and the former US President Jimmy Carter.

Mr Carter has travelled to Pyongyang to win the freedom of Aijalon Gomes a 30-year old American and devout Christian who blundered across the Chinese border into North Korea seven months ago.

Sentenced to eight years hard labour for illegally entering the closed communist state, it was later reported that Gomes had tried to commit suicide.

PJ Crowley is a spokesman for the US State Department.

PJ CROWLEY: We're interested in getting Mr Gomes returned to the United States as we've said throughout we are concerned about his health and welfare. We are doing everything in our power to see him returned to the United States.

MARK WILLACY: It's understood the North Koreans had agreed to release Aijalon Gomes if Jimmy Carter made the trip to Pyongyang.

A year ago another former US President, Bill Clinton, made the same pilgrimage, securing the release of two American reporters who had also crossed into the hermit kingdom.

 

[Tom Bryceland]

This wasnt from "Dear Leaders" Son was it ?

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

North Korea 'on brink of war' with South

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993865.htm?section=world

By North Asia correspondent Mark Willacy

Posted Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:00am AEST

North Korea's number two leader has told a gathering of military leaders in Pyongyang that the Korean peninsula is on the brink of war.

South Korea's defence ministry has revealed the North has begun a massive deployment of troops, artillery and tanks near Pyongyang.

But many believe this could be for a military parade designed as a show of the communist state's vast arsenal.

North Korea's number two leader Kim Yong-nam made his statement about the threat of war as the hermit nation's top brass gathered to mark 50 years of the country's 'military first' policy.

Mr Kim heaped praise on his nation's supposed industrial and military achievements.

"Despite our nation's economic crisis we are now able to produce as many innovative weapons as we want, all by supporting the party's revolutionary line," he said.

He then waited for the choreographed applause to die down before issuing a warning to Seoul and its ally in Washington.

"Because of the US imperialists and their South Korean puppet group of traitors' reckless military provocation against our republic, the peninsula is on the brink of war," he said.

"This is the worst situation ever."

North Korea's military is certainly on the move, with the defence ministry in Seoul tracking large deployments of troops, tanks and artillery rolling closer to the capital Pyongyang.

They will likely be used in a show of military might, a massive parade to mark the first meeting of the North Korean Worker's Party in 30 years.

That meeting next month could be used to officially announce Kim Jong-il's third son Jong-un as the Dear Leader's successor.

 

[BadMedicine]

If they wanted war, they could have just shot Jimmy. Might not have started a war, but make them pretty infamous.

 

[Anti-Liberal]

If they wanted war, they could have just shot Jimmy. Might not have started a war, but make them pretty infamous.

Also, one less dumbass libtard spewing stupid shit !!

 

[Jubilation T. Cornpone]

Also, one less dumbass libtard spewing stupid shit !!

Yes,
I think they want to hurt America, not help it, right?
And jimmah's a commie rat bastard, right?

So why would they want to drill one of their own?

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Jimmy Carter? Why? Our Neville Chamberlain was serving their purposes.

 

[nadhob]

Something Serious Is Brewing

Lots of puzzle pieces to put together here....
A) They're holding this guy prisoner for 5+ years, all of a sudden they want to release him providing Jimmy Carter comes in to pick him up....H'mm... Why?? My guess is they have a sealed letter they want Obama to read about whats going to be going down in the next week or two and they've entrusted Carter to be the messenger.
B) All of a sudden, Kim & Son are off to Beijing to have a meeting.... Same deal, but they're telling the Chinese face to face, or getting instructions, on about whats to go down.
C) He called in a couple of divisions to surround his palace for protection. I'm sure these are selected troops, loyal to him and his son, in the event a Coup is being planned.
D) After he passes the baton to his son, he might have to prove to those who don't believe he's of age, that he is. Thus a "situation" pre designed against the South is being planned, which is why he's bringing us and the Chinese into fold so things don't get crazy.

I think he knows he's dead man walking, and wants to continue the "family" business. Things are changing.... People are starving...word is getting out that the world has lots to offer and their way is a losers game, so I think we're about to see some pretty abrupt changes on the peninsula.
Pray for peace.... We're going to need it....

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Lots of puzzle pieces to put together here....
A) They're holding this guy prisoner for 5+ years, all of a sudden they want to release him providing Jimmy Carter comes in to pick him up....H'mm... Why?? My guess is they have a sealed letter they want Obama to read about whats going to be going down in the next week or two and they've entrusted Carter to be the messenger.
B) All of a sudden, Kim & Son are off to Beijing to have a meeting.... Same deal, but they're telling the Chinese face to face, or getting instructions, on about whats to go down.
C) He called in a couple of divisions to surround his palace for protection. I'm sure these are selected troops, loyal to him and his son, in the event a Coup is being planned.
D) After he passes the baton to his son, he might have to prove to those who don't believe he's of age, that he is. Thus a "situation" pre designed against the South is being planned, which is why he's bringing us and the Chinese into fold so things don't get crazy.

I think he knows he's dead man walking, and wants to continue the "family" business. Things are changing.... People are starving...word is getting out that the world has lots to offer and their way is a losers game, so I think we're about to see some pretty abrupt changes on the peninsula.
Pray for peace.... We're going to need it....

Synchronicity. Upon reading the article below I had a similar idea and returned to this thread to read your recent post. Great minds think alike!

What seems apparent is that this is all be carefully staged and it does seem to be centered around the idea of some sort of power struggle in Pyongyang being underway. Now I personally don't believe anything spontaneous occurs in the NK leadership, so the real question is what sort of show are they planning?

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
August 27, 2010, 3:14AM ET

N Korean leader's trip spurs succession speculation

By DAVID WIVELL

CHANGCHUN, CHINA

North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il was said to be traveling with his youngest son on a rare trip to China on Friday, re-igniting speculation the younger Kim will take over the reigns of the reclusive communist nation in coming years.

The highly unusual visit to China was Kim's second in three months and its timing even more odd because it came as former President Jimmy Carter was in North Korea to win the release of an imprisoned American. Carter and 31-year-old Aijalon Gomes, sentenced to eight years of hard labor and fined $600,000 for entering the country illegally, left Pyongyang on Friday morning.

South Korean media and regional analysts speculated Kim may be seeking Chinese aid following flooding in his impoverished country's northwest and was seeking support from his closest diplomatic ally for the succession of his son, Kim Jong Un.

Choi Jae-sung, an opposition lawmaker in South Korea's parliamentary intelligence committee, told AP that Kim Jong Un -- the North Korean leader's third and youngest son -- accompanied his father, citing unidentified sources.

More -= http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9HRMBMO4.htm

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Just blogged on this: http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2010/08/korea-alert.html

 

[nadhob]

Just blogged on this: http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2010/08/korea-alert.html

I think you're right on about the Russians (Putin) being behind all this. They would like nothing more than to engage us there, get the Chinese just as distracted as party #2, and then begin to use Iran as their proxy in the Middle East. With Obama acting like a frozen deer once the shooting starts, our only hope would be a coup and get the military brains to counter and react to the event. Then, maybe we can save the nation, save mankind...
What scares me is the mindset. That fat little bastard Kim is a big fan of Hollywood, and in his warped little mind he might like to go out with a big ending, if he don't get his way. The trouble here is that once this thing starts rolling, it can take many a twist and turn, and it's any body's guess on how it might end. For sure, it won't be pretty.

 

[China Connection]

Korea is planned to go nuke at some stage of the conflict. Under Clinton the US has promised 695,000 military personnel to come to South Korea's aid. When the US is occupied with and expanded war in the Middle East and Korea then Russia will make its move.

 

[China Connection]

China seeks fresh nuclear talks as Kim eludes cameras


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67P0CK20100828

* Kim Jong-il visits China: reports

A vehicle believed to be transporting North Korean leader Kim Jong-il, the only vehicle in his convoy that is heavily tinted and armoured, travels towards Nanhu Hotel in Changchun city, where Kim is rumoured to be staying with his son, August 28, 2010.

Credit: Reuters/Aly Song

By Benjamin Kang Lim and Brett Cole

BEIJING/SEOUL | Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:32am EDT

BEIJING/SEOUL (Reuters) - China is lobbying neighbors to sign up to a road map for renewed nuclear disarmament talks with North Korea, whose leader Kim Jong-il is visiting China amid conciliatory words and threats of "holy war."

The details of Beijing's plan for restarting stalled six-party nuclear talks came from a South Korean diplomatic source, who spoke on Saturday after discussion in Seoul with Wu Dawei, China's top envoy in the talks.

But the source, as well as a Japanese official speaking in Beijing, stressed that big obstacles remained, even if the secretive Kim's trip to China yields another vow of North Korea's willingness to sit down and discuss a dormant deal to scrap its nuclear weapons in return for aid.

"We don't want to restart six-party talks for the sake of talks," the South Korean diplomatic source said. "North Korea should change its attitude and show seriousness in denuclearizing."

China's regional lobbying, and courting of the reclusive Kim, highlight the pressures that North Korea -- isolated, poor and with a brace of primitive nuclear bombs -- has brought to bear on northeast Asia, home to the world's second and third biggest economies and a big U.S. military presence.

Kim, 68, and his son and heir apparent, Kim Jong-un, were in China to visit the school of senior Kim's father and founder of North Korea, Kim Il-sung, a source with knowledge of the secretive trip told Reuters.

"Trust me, it's 100 percent both are here," the source said, declining to give details when asked.

Kim Il-sung attended the Yu Wen High School in the northeastern Chinese city of Jilin in the 1920s. The school houses a memorial hall to Kim which is not open to the public.

The museum was renovated recently ahead of a visit by a group of North Korean dignitaries, a second source said.

Classes were suspended on Thursday amid tight security and a school choir performed for the dignitaries, the second source added, but did not know if the Kims were among the guests.

"They sang 'The song of General Kim Il-sung' in Chinese and Korean. It's the school song," the second source said.

There had been no conclusive sightings in China of Kim, who has appeared frail and gaunt since reportedly suffering a stroke in 2008.

Neither source wanted to be identified because of the political sensitivity of the trip. The two neighbors do not disclose much information about Kim's travels, and then only after he has left for home.

DIPLOMAT'S WARNING

On Friday, a North Korean diplomat brandished the possibility of nuclear war with South Korea and the United States.

"If Washington and Seoul try to create conflict on the Korean peninsula we respond with a holy war on the basis of our nuclear deterrent forces," North Korea's ambassador to Cuba, Kwon Sung-chol, said in Havana, according to a report from there by China's official Xinhua news agency.

North Korea staged nuclear test blasts in 2006 and 2009, drawing international condemnations and U.N. sanctions backed by China, the biggest economic and diplomatic backer of Pyongyang.

China's envoy, Wu, proposed a three-stage process to restart the multilateral talks aimed at coaxing Pyongyang to give up its nuclear weapons in return for aid and other assurances, the South Korean diplomatic source told Reuters.

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter returned home from Pyongyang on Friday with an American who had been sentenced to eight years of hard labor for illegally entering North Korea. The North's state media said number two leader, Kim Yong-nam, had told Carter that Pyongyang wanted the nuclear talks resumed.

China has sought to defuse confrontation by hosting six-party nuclear disarmament talks since August 2003. But last April, North Korea quit the talks and reversed "disablement" steps intended to cripple its chief reactor complex, unhappy with implementation of an initial disarmament agreement reached in 2007.

North Korea has been retreating from its earlier public renunciation of the talks. South Korea and Washington say resuming the talks will be impossible until Pyongyang also faces up to their conclusion that it was behind the sinking of a South Korean navy ship, the Cheonan, in March.

South Korea lost 46 sailors when the Cheonan sank. Seoul said an inquiry found there was no doubt North Korea torpedoed the ship, but Pyongyang denied it was responsible.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

N Korean leader appears to be headed home

Since when are Kim Jong Il trips to China so widely visible and reported upon?

N Korean leader appears to be headed home

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
08/28/2010 18:01

CHANGCHUN, China — North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il apparently headed home Saturday after a secretive and surprise trip that reportedly included a meeting with China's top leader to appeal for diplomatic and financial support for a succession plan involving his youngest son.

Reporters have followed a motorcade — apparently used by the reclusive Kim — around several cities in northeast China. The 35-vehicle convoy accompanied by police cars with flashing lights was seen headed to the train station in Changchun.

Kim rarely leaves North Korea and when he does he travels by special train. South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported the train left the station, although it did not give a destination.

North Korea does not announce Kim's trips until he returns home, and China has refused to say if he is in the country, even though a Japanese television station had a grainy picture of him.

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=186276

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

I think you're right on about the Russians (Putin) being behind all this. They would like nothing more than to engage us there, get the Chinese just as distracted as party #2, and then begin to use Iran as their proxy in the Middle East. With Obama acting like a frozen deer once the shooting starts, our only hope would be a coup and get the military brains to counter and react to the event. Then, maybe we can save the nation, save mankind...
What scares me is the mindset. That fat little bastard Kim is a big fan of Hollywood, and in his warped little mind he might like to go out with a big ending, if he don't get his way. The trouble here is that once this thing starts rolling, it can take many a twist and turn, and it's any body's guess on how it might end. For sure, it won't be pretty.

The notion of) 'cooperate with us or face the prospect of nuclear chaos and conflict': The developing situation over North Korea should be carefully watched with this in mind. The late Kim Il Sung was a Soviet Korean. The North Koreans would not have acted in a provocative manner without the concealed support of the Russians and of their Chinese comrades-in-arms from the 1950s.

....U.S. policy for dealing with the North Korean situation is inadequate because it focuses on North Korea in isolation as a rogue state, and naively seeks help from the Russians and Chinese to solve the problem. The North Korea situation and any future nuclear incident, wherever it occurs, must be seen against the background of Sino-Soviet 'convergence' strategy: the interaction of Russian and Chinese policy and the moves they make to derive strategic gains from critical situations should be closely studied.

Anatoliy Golitsyn, the highest ranking KGB defector to the West, The Perestroika Deception, 1990, p.46

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

N.Korea leader's train 'may be headed home'

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iE6Foz1o98gX8xndluMKke9yAGQw

(AFP) – 5 hours ago

SEOUL — A train believed to be carrying North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il left the northeast Chinese city of Harbin Monday amid speculation he is headed home after a surprise trip to China, a report said.

The secrecy-shrouded visit which began Thursday to the North's chief ally and benefactor is widely seen as seeking Beijing's approval for an eventual transfer of power from the ageing leader to his youngest son Jong-Un.
The train left shortly after 8:00 am (0000 GMT) and was possibly heading for the Tumen River that marks the border with North Korea, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.

Kim arrived in Harbin Sunday and stayed near Songhua River before visiting a historic site there linked to his late father Kim Il-Sung, the North's founder, the agency quoted sources as saying.

A source in the city told South Korea's JoongAng Ilbo newspaper that Jong-Un was accompanying his father.

At the city railway station, an employee reached by AFP by telephone said most trains were delayed for one to two hours but she did not know why.
State media in China and North Korea have said nothing about the trip and Kim's next destination is not known. It was unclear whether he may head to a Korean autonomous zone also in northeast China before returning to Pyongyang.

The North's leader reportedly met Chinese President Hu Jintao during an earlier stay in the northeastern city of Changchun.

He is also said to have visited several sites linked to his father, a one-time guerrilla fighter against Japan's 1910-45 colonisation of Korea, in a possible bid to confer legitimacy on another father-to-son succession.

On the first day of his trip on Thursday, Kim visited Jilin's Yuwen Middle School, which Kim Il-Sung attended from 1927 to 1930.

Harbin is also known to be a place where Kim Il-Sung lived for several months to dodge Japanese crackdowns. The city is also known for the 1909 assassination of a senior Japanese official by Korean independence activist Ahn Jung-geun.

On Sunday Pyongyang's state TV station broadcast a programme on Ahn which depicted the assassination as a heroic act, Yonhap reported.
"Kim Jong-Il is making a pilgrimage to all these places to showcase that the upcoming power transfer to Jong-Un is an act of following Kim Il-Sung's legacy," Yang Moo-Jin, of Seoul's University of North Korean Studies, told AFP.

JoongAng Ilbo said his trip to Harbin, the capital of Heilongjiang province, may also be related to the North's chronic food shortage which was worsened by recent floods.

"Most of the rice aid (for North Korea) from China comes from Heilongjiang province," it quoted a source in the city as saying. Harbin is also home to Beidahuang Rice Industry, one of China's biggest rice processing companies.

China is the impoverished North's sole major ally and its economic lifeline. It also chairs six-nation talks on Pyongyang's nuclear disarmament and has been pressing the North to return to the forum after it quit in April 2009.

The current visit is Kim's second to China in about three months, even though he rarely travels abroad. He met Hu during his previous visit in May.
Kim, 68, suffered a stroke in August 2008 and since then has sped up plans for a power transfer in the hardline communist state.

 

[mzkitty]

Chinese state television confirms visit by North Korean leader Kim Jong Il - AP

less than 20 seconds ago via breakingnews.com


Yeah, he probably went there to beg for money to finance his desired war.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Chinese state television confirms visit by North Korean leader Kim Jong Il - AP

less than 20 seconds ago via breakingnews.com


Yeah, he probably went there to beg for money to finance his desired war.

'Cooperate with us or face the prospect of nuclear chaos and conflict': The developing situation over North Korea should be carefully watched with this in mind. The late Kim Il Sung was a Soviet Korean. The North Koreans would not have acted in a provocative manner without the concealed support of the Russians and of their Chinese comrades-in-arms from the 1950s.

....U.S. policy for dealing with the North Korean situation is inadequate because it focuses on North Korea in isolation as a rogue state, and naively seeks help from the Russians and Chinese to solve the problem. The North Korea situation and any future nuclear incident, wherever it occurs, must be seen against the background of Sino-Soviet 'convergence' strategy: the interaction of Russian and Chinese policy and the moves they make to derive strategic gains from critical situations should be closely studied.

Anatoliy Golitsyn, the highest ranking KGB defector to the West, The Perestroika Deception, 1990, p.46

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

The publicity of this trip is just odd.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/world/asia/31korea.html

"Reporters camped out on the NK/China border"? Come on. This all smells like propaganda, but for what purpose?

 

[mzkitty]

The publicity of this trip is just odd.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/31/world/asia/31korea.html

"Reporters camped out on the NK/China border"? Come on. This all smells like propaganda, but for what purpose?

Well, the *inscrutable* Orientals........ I mean the Chinese have their Generals' plan, after all. They're all crazy enough.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

N.Korean Regime Collapse 'Could Trigger Iraq-Style Insurgency'

David Maxwell

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/09/06/2010090600654.html

A violent insurgency could arise in North Korea if leader Kim Jong-il's monolithic regime collapses, a U.S. military figure speculates.

Col. David Maxwell, who heads the Strategic Initiatives Group at the U.S. Army's Special Operations Command, offered the view in a presentation at the Marines Corps University in Quantico, Virginia last Wednesday. He said the North's special operations forces could launch suicide attacks and the 7 million well-trained reserve forces may start riots.

Maxwell had a role in formulating a joint South Korea-U.S. conceptual plan for a sudden change in the North. He stressed the need to work out a plan in preparation for the regime collapse on the assumption that "the North Korean people will not welcome the South Korean military, international forces or anybody outside of North Korea" in case Kim's dynastic regime collapses.

The insurgency could be based on the "juche" or self-reliance doctrine to resist and try to overthrow occupation forces, he predicted. Non-state combatants in the North will pose irregular "hybrid" threats, he claimed, and the "irregular warfare joint operating concept" used in Iraq and Afghanistan should be applied, he said.

He called for increased preparedness for dealing with the North's military, which will in all likelihood take power after regime collapse, and efforts to influence North Koreans through NGOs.

The U.S. and South Korean militaries are preparing a fresh operational plan to prepare for sudden changes in the North such as a civil war, a coup, and mass defection. Details have not been made public.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

N.Korea Preps for 'Urgent' Political Gathering

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/09/07/2010090700432.html
North Korea is planning for its biggest political convention. Huge posters promoting the Workers' Party gathering have been plastered across the North Korean capital of Pyongyang.

State media reported that party delegates from throughout North Korea were gathering in Pyongyang for the meeting, with such conferences called only "when urgent or extraordinary matters arise."

Analysts who follow events in North Korea have speculated that the country's ailing leader, Kim Jong-il, will use the gathering to hand an important party position to his third son, Kim Jong Un, in preparation for him to assume control of the country. But in keeping with the secrecy common in North Korea, no mention has been made of when the meeting will start other than to say it will be in "early September."

Little is known about the 27-year-old Kim Jong-un, other than that he is believed to be his father’s favorite. His name has never been mentioned in the state media and there are no known photos of him as an adult.

China's official news agency said that thousands of residents practiced waving red and pink plastic flowers at a weekend rehearsal in Kim Il Sung Square.

 

[dragonslayer2001]

.......

I'd like to say this is beyond the realm of probabilty, but it might not be.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Hmmmm...

Still no word from N. Korea about conference delay, but much speculation

By Chico Harlan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 13, 2010; 12:26 PM

SEOUL - One week after delegates from across the country arrived in Pyongyang, North Korea has issued no word about a landmark party conference that once seemed imminent. The presumed delay in the Workers' Party conference - viewed by outside experts as a means to solidify a hereditary power transfer - has raised concerns that something is amiss, with one South Korean television news station on Monday attributing the holdup to health problems of leader Kim Jong Il.

More - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/13/AR2010091303245.html

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Watch out...

Rare N.Korea meeting could open Wednesday -Yomiuri

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE68D00C20100914

TOKYO, Sept 14 | Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:27pm EDT

(Reuters) - North Korea's ruling party could start a rare conference called to pick new leadership as early as Wednesday, Japan's Yomiuri newspaper reported, citing a source close to the issue.

Representatives from different areas of the country had gathered in Pyongyang as of Monday and a delay to the start of the conference could have been due to flooding in August, Yomiuri quoted the source as saying.

The source denied reports that the North's ruling party had delayed the conference due to leader Kim Jong-il's health, Yomiuri said.

The Workers' Party (WPK) conference, bringing together the secretive state's ruling elite for the first time in 30 years, was called to pick new leadership and likely anoint an heir -- Kim's youngest son -- to the dynasty as Kim's health deteriorates. The meeting had been due to start anytime between Sept. 1-15. (Reporting by Yoko Kubota; Editing by Edmund Klamann)

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

N.Korea wins China succession support, says spy

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jqyeJyvPNpmAxVT6mXozWUl0IMdQ

(AFP) – 1 hour ago

SEOUL — North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il has won support from key ally China for a second father-to-son succession, South Korea's spy chief was reported Tuesday as saying.

National Intelligence Service (NIS) director Won Sei-Hoon, quoted by Chosun Ilbo newspaper, also said Kim might have taken his heir apparent and youngest son Jong-Un on his secretive trip to China late last month.
Won was addressing a closed session of parliament's intelligence committee on Monday. The newspaper was quoting lawmakers at the meeting.
Yonhap news agency carried a similar report.

"In terms of securing aid, Kim's visit to China was not so successful. However, it was a considerable achievement that he got the succession plan recognised (by China)," the agency quoted Won as saying.

Asked whether the NIS believed Kim had been accompanied by his son, Won said: "Isn't it possible to see it like that, judging from the places he visited?"
Kim and his entourage made a pilgrimage to places in northeastern China linked to his own father and North Korea's founder Kim Il-Sung, who led a band of anti-Japanese guerrillas.

The visits were seen as bid to confer legitimacy on another dynastic succession.

A meeting scheduled for this month of the North's ruling communist party is expected to pave the way for an eventual succession.

But there have been no reports that the conference, the nation's most important political gathering for 30 years, is under way.

One media report has said the apparent delay is due to the 68-year-old leader's health problems which worsened after his five-day trip to China.
Won said, however, the meeting was likely to take place this week. He noted that the North had announced in June that it would take place in September in a period known as "sangsun".

Some experts say the term in North Korea refers to the first half of a month.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

North and South Korea on the brink of war, Russian diplomat warns

North and South Korea on the brink of war, Russian diplomat warns

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-the-brink-of-war-Russian-diplomat-warns.html

North and South Korea are on the brink of war, a top Russian diplomat has warned, calling for both countries to exercise restraint and sit down for talks.

By Andrew Osborn in Moscow
Published: 12:04AM BST 24 Sep 2010

North and South Korea are on the brink of war, a top Russian diplomat has warned, calling for both countries to exercise restraint and sit down for talks.
South Korean K-21 armoured vehicles crossing a river as part of a military drill in Yeoju, southeast of Seoul Photo: AFP

In Moscow's bleakest assessment of the situation on the Korean peninsula yet, Russian deputy foreign minister Alexei Borodavkin said tensions between the two countries were running at their highest and most dangerous level in a decade.

"Tensions on the Korean Peninsula could not be any higher. The only next step is a conflict," he told foreign policy experts at a round table on the subject in Moscow.

His prediction came two months after North Korea vowed to wage "a sacred war" against South Korea and its biggest backer, the United States.

Tensions bubbled over in March after Washington and Seoul concluded that a North Korean submarine had sunk a South Korean naval vessel in the Yellow Sea. Mr Borodavkin called for the investigation into exactly who was responsible for the sinking of the vessel, the Cheonan, to be urgently closed in order to remove an obvious source of tension.

Describing the standoff between the two Koreas as a "hangover from the Cold War," Mr Borodavkin said Russia, which is one of the six countries involved in talks with North Korea over its nuclear programme, was doing all it could to try to prevent an outbreak of hostilities.

But he said responsibility for keeping peace in the volatile region was shared equally between North and South Korea. He condemned North Korea's nuclear testing programme but also criticised the way the United States and South Korea had increased their military manoeuvres in the wake of the sinking of the Cheonan.

"THE FAILURE OF U.S. POLICYMAKERS TO COMPREHEND THE VEILED AGGRESSIVENESS AND HOSTILITY TOWARDS THE UNITED STATES INHERENT IN SINO-SOVIET STRATEGY AND THE BELIEF THAT THE POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC REFORMS IN RUSSIA AND THE PARTIAL INTRODUCTION OF CAPITALISM IN CHINA HAVE FORESHADOWED THESE COUNTRIES' DEVELOPMENT INTO REAL DEMOCRACIES, HAVE ERODED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF U.S. POLICIES IN THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS, DEFENSE, INTELLIGENCE AND COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE FIELDS. U.S. POLICYMAKERS HAVE RECKLESSLY ACCEPTED THE PREMISE THAT RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE NO LONGER ENEMIES, BUT ARE RATHER POTENTIAL ALLIES AND PARTNERS FULLY DESERVING OF U.S. SUPPORT. ONLY COUNTRIES LIKE IRAN, (PRE-2003) IRAQ AND NORTH KOREA - WHICH (IRONICALLY, IN THIS CONTEXT) WORK SECRETLY WITH RUSSIA AND CHINA - ARE STILL CONSIDERED POTENTIAL ADVERSARIES."
- KGB DEFECTOR ANATOLIY GOLITSYN, THE PERESTROIKA DECEPTION, 1990, P.230

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Power struggle rages in North Korean regime

A fierce battle is being waged behind the scenes for control of North Korea as Kim Jong-il prepares to anoint his successor, it has emerged.

By Malcolm Moore in Shanghai
Published: 9:00PM BST 24 Sep 2010

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...er-struggle-rages-in-North-Korean-regime.html

Factional in-fighting has broken out between Chang Song-taek, the rogue state's second-in-command, and a group of senior reform-minded officials, according to a source who has recently met people at the highest levels of the North Korean government.

The battle between the two sides comes as Kim Jong-il, the 68-year-old "Dear Leader", is in frail health and no concrete succession plan has yet to emerge.

Chang, 64, is married to Kim's sister and "always believed the crown would be his [one day]", according to the source. His ambition may yet be fulfilled, since many observers believe he could take charge of North Korea as a regent while Kim's third son, the 28-year-old Kim Jong-un, gains experience.

However, Chang has recently seen his hardline views being challenged by a group of reformists, bent on opening up the North Korean economy to Chinese-style capitalism.

"There are normal people who know which direction they have to go in," said the source, who was approached by top North Korean officials and asked to invest in the country. "The government does want to open up, and the only thing stopping them from doing so is Chang," he added.

The split in the Workers' Party, which echoes the division in the Chinese Communist party between hardliners and reformists during the 1970s and 1980s, may have prompted the recent two-week delay of the first party conference for nearly 45 years. The conference is now due to begin next week.

The in-fighting could also explain Moscow's bleak assessment of relations between North and South Korea, with Alexei Borodavkin, the deputy foreign minister, saying on Thursday: "Tensions on the Korean Peninsula could not be any higher. The only next step is a conflict."

The views of the army high command could be critical in the struggle in North Korea and the source said Mr Chang had recently been attempting to bolster his support in that area. "The army has to throw its lot in [with one of the groups] and I don't think it has made its mind up yet," he said.
Meanwhile, the reformists have been bolstered by the return of Pak Pong Ju, the 71-year-old former North Korean premier who previously advocated economic liberalisation.

Kim Yong Hyun, a professor of North Korean studies at Dongguk University in Seoul, said: "More people may be thinking that they don't have a choice but to use more flexible policies to fix the economy. Pak may have been seen as the hands-on person to fix its problems."

Aidan Foster Carter, a North Korean specialist and honorary senior research fellow at Leeds University said: "There is politics in North Korea, with at least three crucial issues: divisions over policy, foreign alignments such as whether to lean towards China, and sheer power struggles."

Meanwhile, the source said he felt that Kim Jong-un, with China's support, would eventually be appointed to lead the country. "North Korea does not want to be economically-dependent on China, and they want to break the umbilical cord, but Beijing has groomed Kim Jong-un, so it will be hard," he said.

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There's no such thing as a power struggle in the North Korea regime IMHO since these figureheads aren't really in power. The puppet strings are pulled in Beijing and Moscow. The question thus becomes, why is it being made to look as if there's power struggle. The optimist would argue that Beijing might want to liberalize NK to integrate the state with the rest of the world. The pessimist would say Beijing and Moscow had long since planned a sudden, violent breach of the developing East-West relationship at the appropriate time in order to checkmate us. I believe the latter possibility is far greater.

 

[denfoote]

I thought the North and South were STILL at war.
There is only a truce, not a peace agreement.
People tend to forget about that!!

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

I thought the North and South were STILL at war.
There is only a truce, not a peace agreement.
People tend to forget about that!!

Indeed....and one might read this as meaning the war between the Communist East and Capitalist West is only in the midst of a ceasefire.

Yet, the West continues to dig its own grave:

NATO Chief to Visit Georgia Next Week: U.S. Ambassador

2010-09-24 20:21:16 Xinhua Web Editor: Zhang Jin

http://english.cri.cn/6966/2010/09/24/1461s596194.htm

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen is expected to visit the South Caucasus country of Georgia next week, the Tbilisi-based ambassador from the United States said Friday.

Ambassador John Bass told local media that the visit would be a show of support for the alliance.

"It is support to Georgia and one step forward on the route of Georgia's integration to NATO," Bass said.

The Georgian parliament last week ratified the country's agreement with NATO to open a NATO liaison office in Tbilisi.

Georgia officially started its relations with NATO in 1994 after the country's 1991-1994 civil war by joining the NATO-run Partnership for Peace program (PfP).

The South Caucasus country's effort to join NATO began in 2005 when the two sides signed an agreement on the appointment of a PfP liaison officer to Georgia.

Russia opposes its southern neighbor's planned accession to the cross-Atlantic military alliance while Germany and France led internal opposition against the proposed inclusion of Georgia in NATO's Membership Action Plan (MAP).

NATO decided in its 2008 Bucharest summit not to offer Georgia an MAP due to the internal opposition.

A non-binding referendum held in Georgia in January 2008 on NATO membership showed that 77 percent voted in favor of joining the alliance.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Sep 27, 2010
Military backs Kim's successor
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_583640.html

SEOUL - NORTH KOREA'S powerful military has nominated the youngest son of leader Kim Jong Il as a delegate to a historic ruling party meeting this week, a newspaper reported on Monday.

The communist party conference scheduled to start on Tuesday is widely expected to set the stage for an eventual power transfer from the ailing 68-year-old to his youngest son Jong Un.

South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper, quoting a North Korean source, said the army on August 25 had elected both father and son as delegates. Only the leader's election has been made public, 'but many senior officers are aware of Kim Jong Un's election as well,' it quoted the source as saying. Seoul's National Intelligence Service said it could not confirm the report.

The conference will be the first major Workers' Party gathering since 1980, when Kim Jong Il was publicly confirmed as eventual successor to his own father, the North's founding president Kim Il Sung, who died in 1994.

It was originally scheduled for early September but postponed without explanation. Delegates arrived in Pyongyang on Sunday, the North's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said, in apparent confirmation the meeting will open on the rescheduled date.

State media in one of the world's most secretive countries has given no hint to the outside world of any succession moves. But KCNA said last week the conference to elect the party's 'supreme leadership body' will be a 'historic' event. -- AFP

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

North Korea Names Kim Jong-il's Son General

http://www.rttnews.com/Content/GeneralNews.aspx?Id=1429704&SM=1

9/27/2010 5:22 PM ET

(RTTNews) - Communist North Korea's supreme leader Kim Jong-il has appointed his son Kim Jong-un a 'general' in the military as part of an apparent exercise to hand over power, the country's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said in a despatch on Monday.

Kim Jong-un, 28, is the third son of Kim Jong-il and reportedly had his education in Switzerland.

Significantly, the announcement of Kim Jong-un's elevation comes on the eve of North Korea's ruling Workers Party meeting which is to effect a generational shift by installing a younger group of leaders at the top of the party hierarchy.

Interestingly, Monday's announcement is also the first time that the youngest Kim's name is being mentioned by the reclusive state's official media.

KCNA showed images of party delegates clad in dapper suits and others wearing military uniform arriving in the capital Pyongyang.

The anoinment of the younger Kim has apparently assumed a sense of urgency for Kim Jong-il's health which is said to be rapidly failing.

According to reports, the North Korean leader is suffering from a host of medical conditions and even suffered a paralytic stroke some two years ago.

It was following the death of Kim Il-sung, North Korea's founder in 1994,that Kim Jong-il became the country's President.

Even as the isolated state's economy lay in shambles, Kim Jong-il painstakingly built up a cult image and came to be known as the "dear leader" while Kim Il-sung became the "eternal President."

Political commentators say taking over the reins of power will be a major challenge for the younger Kim as he has very little practical experience.

 

[Wolfman]

Korea is planned to go nuke at some stage of the conflict. Under Clinton the US has promised 695,000 military personnel to come to South Korea's aid. When the US is occupied with and expanded war in the Middle East and Korea then Russia will make its move.

The only way this could happen would be a draft or a call up of reserves that would empty the states.

 

[Spirit Of Truth]

Next of Kim: Leader's son made 4-star General at North Korea workers' congress
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWLS0Ak-6FE

In North Korea, Is Power Struggle Ahead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4DJyRNrlJk