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North Korea Main Thread - All things Korea June 17th - June 23th
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Posted by Lilbitsnana this morning....http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...rea-June-17th-June-23th&p=6508291#post6508291

So, there will be some kind of activity in the few days.

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Knew this was coming from their tweet storms the last few days. Probably for another test

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-talks-northkorea-idUSKBN19F06H

World News | Sat Jun 24, 2017 | 11:56am EDT

China, U.S. agree on aim of 'complete, irreversible' Korean denuclearization

China and the United States agreed that efforts to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula should be "complete, verifiable and irreversible", Chinese state media said on Saturday, reporting the results of high level talks in Washington this week.

"Both sides reaffirm that they will strive for the complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula," a consensus document released by the official Xinhua news agency said.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had said on Thursday that the United States pressed China to ramp up economic and political pressure on North Korea, during his meeting with top Chinese diplomats and defense chiefs.

China's top diplomat Yang Jiechi and General Fang Fenghui met Tillerson and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis during the talks. Yang later met with U.S. President Donald Trump in the White House, where they also discussed North Korea, Xinhua reported.

The consensus document also highlighted the need to fully and strictly hold to U.N. Security Council resolutions and push for dialogue and negotiation, which has long been China's position on the issue.

Military-to-military exchanges should also be upgraded and mechanisms of notification established in order to cut the risks of "judgment errors" between the Chinese and U.S. militaries, the statement also said.

Chinese state media described the talks, the first of their kind with the Trump administration, as an upgrade in dialogue mechanisms between China and the United States, following on from President Xi Jiping's meeting with Trump in Florida in April.

Xi and Trump are next expected to meet again in Hamburg during the G20 Summit next month.

A day last week's talks, President Donald Trump said China's efforts to use its leverage with North Korea had failed, raising fresh doubts about his administration’s strategy for countering the threat from North Korea.

The death of American university student Otto Warmbier earlier this week, after his release from 17 months of imprisonment in Pyongyang, further complicated Trump’s approach to North Korea.

China, North Korea’s main trading partner, has been accused of not fully enforcing existing U.N. sanctions on its neighbor, and has resisted some tougher measures.

Washington has considered further "secondary sanctions" against Chinese banks and other firms doing business with North Korea, which China opposes.


(Reporting by Christian Shepherd; Editing by Simo cameron-Moore)
 

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South Korea Tests Missile As President Speaks Of Need To 'Dominate' North

June 23, 20171:21 PM ET
Bill Chappell

South Korean President Moon Jae-in watched his military test-fire a ballistic missile on Friday, after a string of North Korean missile tests were blamed for raising tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

The military said the missile, a Hyunmoo-2 with a range of up to 800 kilometers (nearly 500 miles), hit its target accurately.

When Moon won South Korea's presidency last month, he was seen as likely to return to the "Sunshine Policy" of engaging with North Korea through dialogue and economic aid. But today he said "dialogue is only possible when we have a strong military, and engagement policies are only possible when we have the security capability to dominate North Korea," according to the Associated Press. The president's remarks were relayed by Blue House spokesperson Park Soo-hyun.

Video - https://youtu.be/j3ysU1PrdJ0

Saying that he wanted to evaluate South Korea's missile capability for himself, Moon added that he is now reassured. Friday's missile test is the fourth of six evaluations that will take place "before official weaponization" of the Hyunmoo-2, according to The Korea Herald.

Moon watched the test during a visit to the Agency for Defense Development's facility in Taean County, along South Korea's western coast in Chungcheongnam-do province.

In addition to developing its own missiles, South Korea is currently protected from a North Korean missile strike by a U.S. THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) missile battery, which was brought into the country in March and deployed in the southeast. It was declared operational one week before Moon was elected.

Moon will travel to Washington, D.C., next week; he's planning to meet with President Trump for a two-day summit, from June 29-30.

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Also see the back and forth on Arms Control Wonk's Jeffery Lewis' twitter feed on this - https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/

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http://www.torontosun.com/2017/06/24/china-wont---and-cant---solve-north-korea

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China won't - and can't - solve North Korea

ANDREI LANKOV
FIRST POSTED: SATURDAY, JUNE 24, 2017 05:30 PM EDT

North Korea is big nowadays: President Donald Trump has made it clear that he plans to finally solve the "North Korean problem" - that is, he'll get North Korea to denuclearize itself.

This is nothing very special - for the past 25 years, every new U.S. president has promised to do something about North Korea's nuclear ambitions. Some have tried negotiations, others have emphasized pressure. Neither approach has worked so far.

The Trump administration, which seems to rank North Korea high among its foreign policy problems, is choosing the hard line, but with a twist: Trump hopes to cajole China into joining him in a really tough sanctions regime. The issue was discussed during the Trump-Xi Jinping summit in April: The administration has apparently indicated its willingness to reconsider some of the United States' anti-Chinese policies - including on difficult trade issues - if China "fully cooperates" in getting tough on North Korea.

The administration's assumption is that Chinese sanctions would push North Korea to the brink of an economic disaster and thus prompt the leaders in Pyongyang to reconsider their nuclear ambitions. Given that China controls about 90 percent of North Korea's foreign trade and also provides the country with vital aid, including shipments of subsidized fuel, the expectations seem reasonable.

The problem is, however, that Beijing has valid reasons not to be too harsh on Pyongyang. While Chinese leaders do not like North Korea's nuclear program, they are afraid that truly comprehensive sanctions might, indeed, push North Korea to the brink of economic collapse, which would be followed by political disintegration. From their point of view, North Korea in a state of civil war would be a greater threat than the nuclear-armed but relatively stable North Korea that exists now. Even worse, a crisis in North Korea might result in a German-style reunification of the country under Seoul's control - that is, the emergence of a united, democratic and nationalistic Korean state that would probably be an ally of the United States. This is not an outcome that would be welcomed in Beijing.

Apart from this, the Chinese experts know that North Korea sees nuclear weapons as the only guarantee of the regime's survival and thus will not surrender its nukes even under the greatest pressure imaginable. Thus, a Chinese boycott of North Korea - something the Trump administration would like to see - would be highly unlikely to produce the desirable result of denuclearization but much more likely to provoke the kind of crisis that China fears.

So the expectations of the Trump administration are misplaced. Beijing would rather deal with consequences of a trade war with Washington than with those of a real war nearby - even though it is no hurry to advertise this position.

But should we worry about it? Should we regret that the pursuit of Trump's Chinese dream will probably last for another few months? Perhaps not, because the alternatives are much worse.

The first alternative would be negotiation - but that will not work either. Kim Jong Un believes that before he negotiates he needs to develop and deploy an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of hitting the continental United States. His engineers are working on this project with remarkable speed and are likely to achieve success in matter of years, if not months - even though Trump tweeted in January that such an ICBM "won't happen."

So, once it becomes clear - once again - that neither sanctions not negotiations are effective, and North Korea gets close to becoming the world's third country theoretically capable of obliterating San Francisco, how will the president react? A military strike might be considered an option - at least, this is what some key people in the administration have indicated many times.

However, North Korea is capable of striking back if attacked and is likely to do so - perhaps by launching a massive artillery barrage against Seoul, the huge capital located very close to the North-South border. If that happens, the South Koreans will shoot back, and in no time, the United States will find itself fighting a land war in Asia.

So perhaps one should be thankful that the Chinese are now considering cooperation on sanctions, buying time while extracting concessions from the United States on other issues. A war would be much worse. One perhaps should also hope that belief in a Chinese miracle will survive long enough for Trump to learn the lesson his predecessors had to grudgingly accept: The North Korean nuclear problem has no easy solution. In the past it has usually taken a year or two before a new administration came to accept this inconvenient truth.

Lankov is a professor of Korean history at Kookmin University in Seoul and director of korearisk.com. This column originally appeared in The Washington Post.
 

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The North Korea Instability Project: North Korean Collapse: Weapons of Mass Destruction Use and Proliferation Challenges

BY: 38 NORTH
JUNE 23, 2017
NK INSTABILITY PROJECT

Among all the challenges associated with a North Korean collapse, the use of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) or movement of WMD out of the country will have the largest strategic implications. The extensive size and complexity of North Korea’s nuclear, chemical and biological (NBC) weapons programs make it virtually impossible for the alliance between the United States and the Republic of Korea (ROK or South Korea) to have 100 percent clarity of intelligence and greatly increases the likelihood that regime forces, individual opportunists, fleeing members of the regime leadership or breakaway separatists could gain access to WMD. Therefore, it is useful to examine these programs, both in terms of historical examples of chemical and biological use in low intensity conflicts, and potential future employment and proliferation scenarios. This approach will permit a better appreciation of the WMD challenge associated with a collapsing North Korea that is grounded not only in plausible speculation but also in historical precedent.

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How to Deal With North Korea

There are no good options. But some are worse than others.

MARK BOWDEN
JULY/AUGUST 2017 ISSUE

Thirty minutes. That’s about how long it would take a nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) launched from North Korea to reach Los Angeles. With the powers in Pyongyang working doggedly toward making this possible—building an ICBM and shrinking a nuke to fit on it—analysts now predict that Kim Jong Un will have the capability before Donald Trump completes one four-year term.

About which the president has tweeted, simply, “It won’t happen!”

Though given to reckless oaths, Trump is not in this case saying anything that departs significantly from the past half century of futile American policy toward North Korea. Preventing the Kim dynasty from having a nuclear device was an American priority long before Pyongyang exploded its first nuke, in 2006, during the administration of George W. Bush. The Kim regime detonated four more while Barack Obama was in the White House. In the more than four decades since Richard Nixon held office, the U.S. has tried to control North Korea by issuing threats, conducting military exercises, ratcheting up diplomatic sanctions, leaning on China, and most recently, it seems likely, committing cybersabotage.

For his part, Trump has also tweeted that North Korea is “looking for trouble” and that he intends to “solve the problem.” His administration has leaked plans for a “decapitation strike” that would target Kim, which seems like the very last thing a country ought to announce in advance.

None of which, we should all pray, will amount to much. Ignorant of the long history of the problem, Trump at least brings fresh eyes to it. But he is going to collide with the same harsh truth that has stymied all his recent predecessors: There are no good options for dealing with North Korea. Meanwhile, he is enthusiastically if unwittingly playing the role assigned to him by the comic-book-style foundation myth of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

The myth holds that Korea and the Kim dynasty are one and the same. It is built almost entirely on the promise of standing up to a powerful and menacing foreign enemy. The more looming the threat—and Trump excels at looming—the better the narrative works for Kim Jong Un. Nukes are needed to repel this threat. They are the linchpin of North Korea’s defensive strategy, the single weapon standing between barbarian hordes and the glorious destiny of the Korean people—all of them, North and South. Kim is the great leader, heir to divinely inspired ancestors who descended from Mount Paektu with mystical, magical powers of leadership, vision, diplomatic savvy, and military genius. Like his father, Kim Jong Il, and grandfather Kim Il Sung before him, Kim is the anointed defender of all Koreans, who are the purest of all races. Even South Korea, the Republic of Korea, should be thankful for Kim because, if not for him, the United States would have invaded long ago.

This racist mythology and belief in the supernatural status of the Mount Paektu bloodline defines North Korea, and illustrates how unlikely it is that diplomatic pressure will ever persuade the present Dear Leader to back down. Right now the best hope for keeping the country from becoming an operational nuclear power rests, as it long has, with China, which may or may not have enough economic leverage to influence Kim’s policy making—and which also may not particularly want to do so, since having a friendly neighbor making trouble for Washington and Seoul serves Beijing’s interests nicely at times.


American sabotage has likely played a role in Pyongyang’s string of failed missile launches in recent years. According to David E. Sanger and William J. Broad of The New York Times, as the U.S. continued its covert cyberprogram last year, 88 percent of North Korea’s flight tests of its intermediate-range Musudan missiles ended in failure. Given that these missiles typically exploded, sometimes scattering in pieces into the sea, determining the precise cause—particularly for experts outside North Korea—is impossible. Failure is a big part of missile development, and missiles can blow up on their own for plenty of reasons, but the percentage of failures certainly suggests sabotage. The normal failure rate for developmental missile tests, according to The Times, is about 5 to 10 percent. It’s also possible that the sabotage program is not computer-related; it might, for instance, involve more old-fashioned techniques such as feeding faulty parts into the missiles’ supply chain. If sabotage of any kind is behind the failures, however, no one expects it to do more than slow progress. Even failed tests move Pyongyang closer to its announced goal: possessing nuclear weapons capable of hitting U.S. cities.

Kim’s regime may be evil and deluded, but it’s not stupid. It has made sure that the whole world knows its aims, and it has carried out public demonstrations of its progress, which double as a thumb in the eye of the U.S. and South Korea. The regime has also moved its medium-range No-dong and Scud missiles out of testing and into active service, putting on displays that show their reach—which now extends to South Korean port cities and military sites, as well as to the U.S. Marine Corps Air Station in Iwakuni, Japan. In mid-May, the regime successfully fired a missile that traveled, in a high arc, farther than one ever had before: 1,300 miles, into the Sea of Japan. Missile experts say it could have traveled 3,000 miles, well past American forces stationed in Guam, if the trajectory had been lower. Jeffrey Lewis, an arms-control expert at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, wrote in Foreign Policy in March:

North Korea’s military exercises leave little doubt that Pyongyang plans to use large numbers of nuclear weapons against U.S. forces throughout Japan and South Korea to blunt an invasion. In fact, the word that official North Korean statements use is “repel.” North Korean defectors have claimed that the country’s leaders hope that by inflicting mass casualties and destruction in the early days of a conflict, they can force the United States and South Korea to recoil from their invasion.

This isn’t new. This threat has been present for more than 20 years. “It is widely known inside North Korea that [the nation] has produced, deployed, and stockpiled two or three nuclear warheads and toxic material, such as over 5,000 tons of toxic gases,” Choi Ju-hwal, a North Korean colonel who defected, told a U.S. Senate subcommittee in 1997. “By having these weapons, the North is able to prevent itself from being slighted by such major powers as the United States, Russia, China, and Japan, and also they are able to gain the upper hand in political negotiations and talks with those superpowers.”

For years North Korea has had extensive batteries of conventional artillery—an estimated 8,000 big guns—just north of the demilitarized zone (DMZ), which is less than 40 miles from Seoul, South Korea’s capital, a metropolitan area of more than 25 million people. One high-ranking U.S. military officer who commanded forces in the Korean theater, now retired, told me he’d heard estimates that if a grid were laid across Seoul dividing it into three-square-foot blocks, these guns could, within hours, “pepper every single one.” This ability to rain ruin on the city is a potent existential threat to South Korea’s largest population center, its government, and its economic anchor. Shells could also deliver chemical and biological weapons. Adding nuclear ICBMs to this arsenal would put many more cities in the same position as Seoul. Nuclear-tipped ICBMs, according to Lewis, are the final piece of a defensive strategy “to keep Trump from doing anything regrettable after Kim Jong Un obliterates Seoul and Tokyo.”

Video: The North Korea Crisis, Explained

How should the United States proceed?

What to do about North Korea has been an intractable problem for decades. Although shooting stopped in 1953, Pyongyang insists that the Korean War never ended. It maintains as an official policy goal the reunification of the Korean peninsula under the Kim dynasty.

As tensions flared in recent months, fanned by bluster from both Washington and Pyongyang, I talked with a number of national-security experts and military officers who have wrestled with the problem for years, and who have held responsibility to plan and prepare for real conflict. Among those I spoke with were former officials from the White House, the National Security Council, and the Pentagon; military officers who have commanded forces in the region; and academic experts.

From these conversations, I learned that the U.S. has four broad strategic options for dealing with North Korea and its burgeoning nuclear program.

1. Prevention: A crushing U.S. military strike to eliminate Pyongyang’s arsenals of mass destruction, take out its leadership, and destroy its military. It would end North Korea’s standoff with the United States and South Korea, as well as the Kim dynasty, once and for all.

2. Turning the screws: A limited conventional military attack—or more likely a continuing series of such attacks—using aerial and naval assets, and possibly including narrowly targeted Special Forces operations. These would have to be punishing enough to significantly damage North Korea’s capability—but small enough to avoid being perceived as the beginning of a preventive strike. The goal would be to leave Kim Jong Un in power, but force him to abandon his pursuit of nuclear ICBMs.

3. Decapitation: Removing Kim and his inner circle, most likely by assassination, and replacing the leadership with a more moderate regime willing to open North Korea to the rest of the world.

4. Acceptance: The hardest pill to swallow—acquiescing to Kim’s developing the weapons he wants, while continuing efforts to contain his ambition.

Let’s consider each option. All of them are bad.

1 | Prevention

An all-out attack on North Korea would succeed. The U.S. and South Korea are fully capable of defeating its military forces and toppling the Kim dynasty.

For sheer boldness and clarity, this is the option that would play best to President Trump’s base. (Some campaign posters for Trump boasted, finally someone with balls.) But to work, a preventive strike would require the most massive U.S. military attack since the first Korean War—a commitment of troops and resources far greater than any seen by most Americans and Koreans alive today.

What makes a decisive first strike attractive is the fact that Kim’s menace is growing. Whatever the ghastly toll in casualties a peninsular war would produce today, multiply it exponentially once Kim obtains nuclear ICBMs. Although North Korea already has a million-man army, chemical and biological weapons, and a number of nuclear bombs, its current striking range is strictly regional. A sudden hammer blow before Kim’s capabilities go global is precisely the kind of solution that might tempt Trump.


Being able to reach U.S. territory with a nuclear weapon—right now the only adversarial powers with that ability are Russia and China—would make North Korea, because of its volatility, the biggest direct threat to American security in the world. Trump’s assertion of “America First” would seem to provide a rationale for drastic action regardless of the consequences to South Koreans, Japanese, and other people in the area. By Trumpian logic, the cost of all-out war might be acceptable if the war remains on the other side of the world—a thought that ought to keep South Koreans and Japanese up at night. The definition of “acceptable losses” depends heavily on whose population is doing the dying.

The brightest hope of prevention is that it could be executed so swiftly and decisively that North Korea would not have time to respond. This is a fantasy.

“When you’re discussing nuclear issues and the potential of a nuclear attack, even a 1 percent chance of failure has potentially catastrophically high costs,” Abe Denmark, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for East Asia under Barack Obama, told me in May. “You could get people who will give you General Buck Turgidson’s line from Dr. Strangelove,” he said, referring to the character played by George C. Scott in Stanley Kubrick’s classic film, who glibly acknowledges the millions of lives likely to be lost in a nuclear exchange by telling the president, “I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed.”

Kim’s arsenal is a tough target. “It’s not possible that you get 100 percent of it with high confidence, for a couple of reasons,” Michèle Flournoy, a former undersecretary of defense in the Obama administration and currently the CEO of the Center for a New American Security, told me when we spoke this spring. “One reason is, I don’t believe anybody has perfect intelligence about where all the nuclear weapons are. Two, I think there is an expectation that, when they do ultimately deploy nuclear weapons, they will likely put them on mobile systems, which are harder to find, track, and target. Some may also be in hardened shelters or deep underground. So it’s a difficult target set—not something that could be destroyed in a single bolt-from-the-blue attack.”

North Korea is a forbidding, mountainous place, its terrain perfect for hiding and securing things. Ever since 1953, the country’s security and the survival of the Kim dynasty have relied on military stalemate. Resisting the American threat—surviving a first strike with the ability to respond—has been a cornerstone of the country’s military strategy for three generations.

And with only a few of its worst weapons, North Korea could, probably within hours, kill millions. This means an American first strike would likely trigger one of the worst mass killings in human history. In 2005, Sam Gardiner, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel who specialized in conducting war games at the National War College, estimated that the use of sarin gas alone would produce 1 million casualties. Gardiner now says, in light of what we have learned from gas attacks on civilians in Syria, that the number would likely be three to five times greater. And today North Korea has an even wider array of chemical and biological weapons than it did 12 years ago—the recent assassination of Kim’s half brother, Kim Jong Nam, demonstrated the potency of at least one compound, the nerve agent VX. The Kim regime is believed to have biological weapons including anthrax, botulism, hemorrhagic fever, plague, smallpox, typhoid, and yellow fever. And it has missiles capable of reaching Tokyo, a metropolitan area of nearly 38 million. In other words, any effort to crush North Korea flirts not just with heavy losses, but with one of the greatest catastrophes in human history.

Kim would bear the greatest share of responsibility for such a catastrophe, but for the U.S. to force his hand with a first strike, to do so without severe provocation or an immediate and dire threat, would be not only foolhardy but morally indefensible. That this decision now rests with Donald Trump, who has not shown abundant capacity for moral judgment, is not reassuring.


If mass civilian killings were not a factor—if the war were a military contest alone—South Korea by itself could defeat its northern cousin. It would be a lopsided fight. South Korea’s economy is the world’s 11th-largest, and in recent decades the country has competed with Saudi Arabia for the distinction of being the No. 1 arms buyer. And behind South Korea stands the formidable might of the U.S. military.

But lopsided does not necessarily mean easy. The combined air power would rapidly defeat North Korea’s air force, but would face ground-to-air missiles—a gantlet far more treacherous than anything American pilots have encountered since Vietnam. In the American method of modern war, which depends on control of the skies, a large number of aircraft are aloft over the battlefield at once—fighters, bombers, surveillance planes, drones, and flying command and control platforms. Maintaining this flying armada would require eliminating Pyongyang’s defenses.

Locating and securing North Korea’s nuclear stockpiles and heavy weapons would take longer. Some years ago, Thomas McInerney, a retired Air Force lieutenant general and a Fox News military analyst who has been an outspoken advocate of a preventive strike, estimated with remarkable optimism that eliminating North Korea’s military threat would take 30 to 60 days.

But let’s suppose (unrealistically) that a preventive strike did take out every single one of Kim’s missiles and artillery batteries. That still leaves his huge, well-trained, and well-equipped army. A ground war against it would likely be more difficult than the first Korean War. In David Halberstam’s book The Coldest Winter, he described the memories of Herbert “Pappy” Miller, a sergeant with the First Cavalry Division, after a battle with North Korean troops near the village of Taejon in 1950:

No matter how well you fought, there were always more. Always. They would slip behind you, cut off your avenue of retreat, and then they would hit you on the flanks. They were superb at that, Miller thought. The first wave or two would come at you with rifles, and right behind them were soldiers without rifles ready to pick up the weapons of those who had fallen and keep coming. Against an army with that many men, everyone, he thought, needed an automatic weapon.

Today, American soldiers would all have automatic weapons—but so would the enemy. The North Koreans would not just make a frontal assault, either, the way they did in 1950. They are believed to have tunnels stretching under the DMZ and into South Korea. Special forces could be inserted almost anywhere in South Korea by tunnel, aircraft, boat, or the North Korean navy’s fleet of miniature submarines. They could wreak havoc on American and South Korean air operations and defenses, and might be able to smuggle a nuclear device to detonate under Seoul itself. And for those America Firsters who might view Asian losses as acceptable, consider that there are also some 30,000 Americans on the firing lines—and that even if those lives are deemed expendable, another immediate casualty of all-out war in Korea would likely be South Korea’s booming economy, whose collapse would be felt in markets all over the world.

So the cost of even a perfect first strike would be appalling. In 1969, long before Pyongyang had missiles or nukes, the risks were bad enough that Richard Nixon—hardly a man timid about using force—opted against retaliating after two North Korean aircraft shot down a U.S. spy plane, killing all 31 Americans on board.

Jim Walsh is a senior research associate at the MIT Security Studies Program and a board member of the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. I talked with him this spring, as tensions between North Korea and the U.S. escalated. “I had a friend who just returned from Seoul, where he had a chance to talk with U.S. Forces Korea—uniformed military officers—and he asked them, ‘Do you have a capability to remove North Korea’s nuclear weapons?’ And the response was ‘Can we use nuclear weapons or not?’ ”

Putting aside the irony of using nuclear weapons to prevent the use of nuclear weapons, the answer Walsh got in that scenario was still: No guarantee.

“If we don’t get everything, then we have a really pissed-off adversary who possesses nuclear weapons who has just been attacked,” Walsh said. “It’s not clear even with nukes that you could get all the artillery. And if you did use nukes, is that something South Korea is going to sign up for? There’s three minutes’ flight time from just north of the DMZ to Seoul. Do you really want to be dropping nuclear weapons that close to our ally’s capital? Think of the radioactive fallout. If you don’t take out all the batteries, then you have thousands of munitions raining down on Seoul. So I don’t get how an all-out attack works.” Even if a U.S. president could get Americans to support such an attack, Walsh added, the South Koreans would likely object. “All the fighting is going to happen on Korean soil. So it seems to me the South Koreans should certainly have a say in this. I don’t see them signing off.”


Especially not now, with the election in May of Moon Jae-in as president. Moon is a liberal who has said he might be willing to reopen talks with Pyongyang and, far from endorsing aggressive action, has criticized the recent deployment around Seoul of America’s thaad (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) missiles, which are designed to intercept incoming missiles.

These aren’t the only problems with a preventive strike. To be effective, it would depend on surprise, on delivering the maximum amount of force as quickly as possible—which would in turn require a significant buildup of U.S. forces in the region. At the start of the Iraq War, American warplanes flew about 800 sorties a day. An all-out attack on North Korea, a far more formidable military power than Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, would almost certainly require more. In order to resist a ground invasion of South Korea, the U.S. would need to bolster the assets currently in place. U.S. Special Forces would need to be positioned to go after crucial nuclear sites and missile platforms; ships would have to be stationed in the Sea of Japan and the Yellow Sea. It’s highly improbable that all of this could happen without attracting Pyongyang’s notice. One of the things North Korea is better at than its southern neighbor is spying; recruiting and running spies is much easier in a free society than in a totalitarian one.

But suppose, just for argument’s sake, that a preventive strike could work without any of the collateral damage I’ve been describing. Suppose that U.S. forces could be positioned secretly, and that President Moon were on board. Suppose, further, that Pyongyang’s nukes could be disabled swiftly, its artillery batteries completely silenced, its missile platforms flattened, its leadership taken out—all before a counterstrike of any consequence could be made. And suppose still further that North Korea’s enormous army could be rapidly defeated, and that friendly casualties would remain surprisingly low, and that South Korea’s economy would not be significantly hurt. And suppose yet further that China and Russia agreed to sit on the sidelines and watch their longtime ally fall. Then Kim Jong Un, with his bad haircut and his legion of note-taking, big-hat-wearing, kowtowing generals, would be gone. South Korea’s fear of invasion from the North, gone. The menace of the state’s using chemical and biological weapons, gone. The nuclear threat, gone.

Such a stunning outcome would be a mighty triumph indeed! It would be a truly awesome display of American power and know-how.

What would be left? North Korea, a country of more than 25 million people, would be adrift. Immediate humanitarian relief would be necessary to prevent starvation and disease. An interim government would have to be put in place. If Iraq was a hard country to occupy and rebuild, imagine a suddenly stateless North Korea, possibly irradiated and toxic, its economy and infrastructure in ruins. There could still be hidden stockpiles of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons scattered around the country, which would have to be found and secured before terrorists got to them. “Success,” in other words, would create the largest humanitarian crisis of modern times—Syria’s miseries would be a playground scuffle by comparison. Contemplating such a collapse in The Atlantic back in 2006, Robert D. Kaplan wrote that dealing with it “could present the world—meaning, really, the American military—with the greatest stabilization operation since the end of World War II.”

How long would it be before bands of armed fighters from Kim’s shattered army began taking charge, like Afghan warlords, in remote regions of the country? How long before they began targeting American occupation forces? Imagine China and South Korea beset by millions of desperate refugees. Would China sit still for a unified, American-allied Korea on its border? Having broken North Korea, the U.S. would own it for many, many years to come. Which would not be easy, or pretty.


The ensuing chaos and carnage and ongoing cost might just make America miss Kim Jong Un’s big-bellied strut.

Which brings us to the second option.

2 | Turning the Screws

What if the United States aimed to punish Pyongyang without provoking a full-on war—to leave Kim Jong Un in power and the North Korean state intact, but without a nuclear arsenal?

Given all the saber-rattling in Washington, but also the enormous downsides to a preventive strike, this middle route seems to be the most likely option that involves using force. The strategy would be to respond to the next North Korean affront—a nuclear test or missile launch or military attack—sharply enough to get Pyongyang’s full attention. The strike would have to set back the regime’s efforts significantly without looking like the start of an all-out, preventive war. If Kim responded with a counterattack, another, perhaps more devastating, American blow would follow. The hope is that this process might convince him that the U.S., as Trump has promised, will not allow him to succeed in developing a weapons program capable of threatening the American mainland.

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This pattern of dealing with North Korea is an amped-up version of what Sydney A. Seiler, a North Korea expert who spent decades at the CIA, the National Security Council, and elsewhere, has called the “provocation cycle”: Pyongyang does something outrageous—such as its first successful nuclear test, in 2006—and then, having inflamed fears of war, offers to return to disarmament negotiations. When Pyongyang returned to talks in 2007, the Bush administration agreed to release illicit North Korean funds that had been frozen in Macau’s Banco Delta Asia bank—effectively rewarding Kim for his nuclear defiance.

The Obama administration attempted to break this cycle. When North Korea sank the South Korean warship Cheonan with a torpedo in 2010, killing 46 of the vessel’s 104 crew members, South Korea imposed a near-total trade embargo on the North—the most serious response short of a military strike—and refused to reenter disarmament talks without a formal apology. Obama pursued a policy of “strategic patience,” using no force but also offering no concessions to restore good feelings and in fact working through regional allies to further isolate and punish Pyongyang. By stepping out of the provocation/charm cycle, the hope was that North Korea would behave like a more responsible nation. It didn’t work, or hasn’t worked—some feel that the effects of economic sanctions have yet to fully play out. Conservatives, and Donald Trump, tend to regard “strategic patience” as a failure. So why not radically turn the screws? The way to stop someone from calling your bluff is to stop bluffing.

An opening salvo would likely hit important nuclear sites or missile launchers. Perhaps the most tempting and obvious target is the nuclear test site at Punggye-ri, which made news in April when satellite images looking for signs of an expected underground detonation instead found North Korean soldiers playing volleyball. Another major piece of the nuclear program is the reactor at Yongbyon, which produces plutonium. Hitting either site would do more than send a message; it would impede Kim’s bomb program (although North Korea already has stockpiles of plutonium). The strikes themselves would be risky—radioactive material might be released, which would certainly draw widespread (and justified) international condemnation. Targeting missile launchers would entail less risk, but would require a larger and more complex mission, given the number of launchers that would need to be destroyed and the defenses around them.

Choosing how and where to strike would be a delicate thing. If the U.S. went after all or most of North Korea’s launchers at once, it might look to Pyongyang like an all-out attack, and trigger an all-out response. Targeting too few would advertise a reluctance to fully engage, which would just invite further provocation.

Key to the limited strike is the pause that comes after. Kim and his generals would have time to think. Some analysts feel that, in this scenario, he would be unlikely to unleash a devastating attack on Seoul.


But the threat of Seoul’s destruction by North Korean artillery “really constrains people, and it’s really hard to combat,” says John Plumb, a Navy submarine officer who served as a director of defense policy and strategy for the National Security Council during the Obama administration. “If I were the Trump administration, I would be looking at the threat to incinerate Seoul and trying to figure out how real it is. Because to me, it’s become such a catchphrase, and it almost—it starts to lose credibility. Attacking Seoul, a civilian population center, is different from attacking a remote military outpost. It’s dicey, there’s no doubt about it.”

The problem with trying to turn the screws on Pyongyang is that once the shooting starts, containing it may be extremely difficult. Any limited strike would almost certainly start an escalating cycle of attack/counterattack. Owing to miscalculation or misunderstanding, it could readily devolve into the full-scale peninsular war described earlier. For the strategy to work, Pyongyang would have to recognize America’s intent from the outset—and that is not a given. The country has a hair-trigger sensitivity to threat, and has been anticipating a big American invasion for more than half a century. As Jim Walsh of MIT’s Security Studies Program points out, just because America might consider an action limited doesn’t guarantee North Korea will see it that way.

And once the violence begins, North Korea would have an advantage, in that its people have no say in the matter. The death and misery of North Koreans would just be one more chapter in decades of misrule. The effects of North Korean strikes in the free society to the south would be a far different thing. The introduction of thaad missiles earlier this year brought thousands of protesters into the streets, where they clashed with police. It would be much harder for Moon and Trump to stoically absorb punishment in any protracted test of wills. And North Korea would have more to lose by folding first. For Kim and his generals, the endgame would require abandoning the linchpin of their national-defense strategy.

Pyongyang is, if anything, inclined to exaggerate threat. According to a 2013 analysis by Scott A. Snyder, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, the regime “thrives on crisis and gains internal support from crisis situations.” Trump may believe it serves his purposes to be seen as dangerously erratic, but he is surrounded by relatively responsible military and congressional leaders and is presumably bound to act in concert with South Korea, which would be loath to act rashly. The American president can fulminate all he likes on Twitter, but he has constraints. Kim does not. His inner circle is regularly thinned by one-way trips to the firing range; lord help anyone who—forget about voicing an objection—fails to clap and cheer his pronouncements with enough enthusiasm. His power is absolute, and pugnacity is central to it. He may be one of the few people on Earth capable of out-blustering Trump. And he has repeatedly backed up his words with force, from the sinking of the Cheonan in 2010 to the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island that same year, in response to South Korean military exercises there. It takes far less than an actual military strike to set him off. Kim recently threatened to sink the U.S.S. Carl Vinson, which arrived in the region in April.


Sinking an aircraft carrier is hard. Kim’s forces would first have to find it, which, despite satellite technology, is not easy. Neither is hitting it, even for a very sophisticated military. But suppose North Korea did manage to find and attack an aircraft carrier. If tensions can be cranked this high just by sailing a carrier into Korean waters, imagine how fast things might escalate when actual shooting starts.

“If I am sitting in Pyongyang, and I think you are coming after me, I’ve got minutes to decide if this is an all-out attack, and if I wait, I lose,” Jim Walsh told me. “So it’s use nuclear weapons or lose them—which makes for an itchy trigger finger. The idea that the U.S. and South Korea are going to have a limited strike that the North Koreans are going to perceive as limited, and that they are willing to stand by and let happen, especially given the rhetorical context in which this has been playing out, complete with repeated, stupid statements about ‘decapitation’—I can’t see it happening.”

Even if Kim did perceive limited intent in a first strike, he would readily and correctly interpret the effort as an assault on his nuclear arsenal, and perhaps the initial steps on a road to regime change. Under those circumstances, with the fate of Seoul in the balance, which side would likely blink first?

Maybe Kim would. It’s possible. But given the nature of his regime and his own short history as Dear Leader, it would have to be considered a small chance. More likely is that a limited-intent first strike would slide quickly into exactly what it was designed to prevent.


3 | Decapitation

The third option has Hollywood appeal: Target Kim Jong Un himself and overthrow the dynasty.

South Korean Defense Minister Han Min-koo said earlier this year that his country was preparing a “special brigade” to remove the North’s wartime command structure. During military exercises in March, U.S. and South Korean troops took part in a rehearsal for a strike like this. That same month, the South Korean newspaper Korea JoongAng Daily reported that a U.S. Navy seal team had been deployed to train for just such a mission. In May, the North Korean government announced that it had foiled an assassination plot hatched by the CIA and South Korea’s National Intelligence Service.

The latter two claims have been officially denied, but decapitation is almost certainly being considered. The U.S.–South Korea war strategy, OPLAN 5015, portions of which have leaked to the South Korean press, calls for strikes targeting the country’s leaders. Any U.S. plot would be a breach of long-standing American policy—an executive order bans the assassination of foreign leaders. But such an order can be rewritten by whoever presides in the White House.

A former senior adviser to the White House on national security, who asked not to be named, told me recently: “Decapitation does seem to be a way to get out of this problem. If a new North Korean leader could arise who is willing to denuclearize and be somewhat of a normal actor, it might lead us out. But there are so many wild cards involved that I’ve been reluctant to endorse that approach so far.”


For a plot against Kim to succeed, it would most likely have to be initiated from inside Kim’s circle. It would be exceedingly difficult, even for a suicidal team of special operators, to get close enough to Kim to kill him, given the closed nature of the North Korean state and the security that surrounds him. Unless it came during a scheduled public appearance (when defenses would be on high alert), an aerial attack by cruise missile or drone would depend on accurate and timely intelligence regarding his whereabouts, something that only an insider could provide. Americans have successfully hunted down and killed al-Qaeda and Islamic State leaders with the aid of drones, which can conduct long-term, detailed surveillance and provide timely precision strikes. But the use of drones for these purposes depends on complete control of airspace. They are slow-moving and electronically noisy, so they are relatively easy to shoot down—and North Korea’s air defenses are robust.

If China were sufficiently fed up with its belligerent neighbor, however, it might be capable of recruiting conspirators in Pyongyang. Money or the promise of power might be enough to turn someone in Kim’s inner circle, where his practice of having people executed is bound to have sown ill will and a desire for revenge. But the tyrant’s menace cuts both ways. It would be a terribly risky undertaking for anyone involved.

The consequences could also be disastrous: Given the reverence accorded Kim, his sudden death might trigger an automatic military response. And what guarantees are there that his replacement wouldn’t be worse?

Without some sense of what would follow, in both the short and long term, decapitation would be a huge gamble. You don’t play dice with nukes.

4 | Acceptance

Unless Kim Jong Un is killed and replaced by someone better, or some miracle of diplomacy occurs, or some shattering peninsular conflict intervenes, North Korea will eventually build ICBMs armed with nuclear warheads. In the words of one retired senior U.S. military commander: “It’s a done deal.”

Acceptance is likely because there are no good military options where North Korea is concerned. As frightening as it is to contemplate a Kim regime that can successfully strike the United States, accepting such a scenario means living with things only slightly worse than they are right now.

Pyongyang has long had the means to all but level Seoul, and weapons capable of killing tens of thousands of Americans stationed in South Korea—far more than those killed by al-Qaeda on September 11, 2001, an atrocity that spurred the U.S. to invade two countries and led to 16 years of war. Right now North Korea has missiles that could reach Japan (and possibly Guam) with weapons of mass destruction. The world is already accustomed to dealing with a North Korea capable of sowing unthinkable mayhem.

Every option the United States has for dealing with North Korea is bad. But accepting it as a nuclear power may be the least bad.

Pyongyang has been constrained by the same logic that has stayed the use of nuclear arms for some 70 years. Their use would invite swift annihilation. In the Cold War this brake was called mad (mutual assured destruction). In this case the brake on North Korea would be simply ad: assured destruction, since any launch of a nuclear weapon would invite an annihilating response; even though its missiles might hit North America, it cannot destroy the United States.

There is already a close-to-even chance that, in the 30 minutes it would take a North Korean ICBM to reach the West Coast of the United States, the missile would be intercepted and destroyed. But the other way of looking at those odds is that such a missile would have a close-to-even chance of hitting an American city.

This is terrible to ponder, but Americans lived with a far, far greater threat for almost half a century. Throughout the Cold War, the U.S. faced the potential for complete destruction. I was one of the kids who performed civil-defense drills in the 1950s, ducking under my school desk while sirens wailed. During the Cuban missile crisis, the possibility seemed imminent enough that I plotted the fastest route from school to home. The threat of nuclear attack is a feature of the modern world, and one that has grown far less existential to Americans over time.

It is expensive to build an atom bomb, and very hard to build one small enough to ride in a missile. It is also hard to build an ICBM. But these are all old technologies. The know-how exists and is widespread. Preventing a terrorist group from acquiring such a weapon may be possible, but when a nation—whether North Korea or Iran or any other—commits itself to the goal, stopping it is virtually impossible. A deal to halt Iran’s nuclear program was doable only because that country has extensive trading and banking ties with other nations. The Kim regime’s isolation means that no country besides China can really apply meaningful economic pressure. Persuading a nation to abandon nuclear arms depends less on military strength than on the collective determination of the world, and a decision made by the nation in question. What’s needed is the proper framework for disarmament—the right collection of incentives and disincentives to render the building of such a weapon a detriment and a waste—so the country decides that abandoning its pursuit of nukes is in its best interest.

It is hard to imagine Pyongyang making such a decision anytime soon, but creating a framework that renders that decision at least conceivable is the only sensible way forward. This is not a hopeless strategy. Over the years Pyongyang, in between its threats and provocations, has more than once dangled offers to freeze its nuclear progress. With the right inducements, Kim very well might decide to change direction. Or he might die. He’s an obese young man with bad habits, a family history of heart trouble, and a personal record of poor health. In such a system, things might change—for better or worse—overnight.

Moon Jae-in, South Korea’s new president, wants to steer his country away from confrontation with Pyongyang, and possibly open talks with Kim. This is likely to put him at odds with Donald Trump, but reduces the chances of the U.S. president doing something rash. China has also expressed more willingness to put pressure on Kim, although it has yet to act emphatically on this. And time might allow the working-out of a peaceful path to disarmament. Better to buy time than to risk mass death by provoking a military confrontation.

“I don’t think now is the time we should be substituting a policy of strategic haste for one of strategic patience—and I was a critic of strategic patience,” Jim Walsh said.

For all these reasons, acceptance is how the current crisis should and will most likely play out. No one is going to announce this policy. No president is going to openly acquiesce to Kim’s ownership of a nuclear-tipped ICBM, but just as George W. Bush quietly swallowed Pyongyang’s successful explosion of an atom bomb, and just as Barack Obama met North Korea’s subsequent nuclear tests and missile launches with strategic patience, Trump may well find himself living with something similar. If there were a tolerable alternative, it would long ago have been tried. Sabotage may continue to stall progress, but cannot stop it altogether. Draconian economic pressure, even with China’s help, is also unlikely to curb Pyongyang’s quest.

“The North Koreans have demonstrated a strong willingness to continue this program, regardless of the price, regardless of the isolation,” says Abe Denmark, the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for East Asia under Obama. “To be frank, my sense is that their leadership really could not care less about the country’s economic situation or the living standards of their people. As long as they are making progress toward nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, and they can stay in power, then they seem to be willing to pay that price.”

In short, North Korea is a problem with no solution … except time.

True, time works in favor of Kim getting what he wants. Every test, successful or not, brings him closer to building his prized weapons. When he has nuclear ICBMs, North Korea will have a more potent and lethal strike capability against the United States and its allies, but no chance of destroying America, or winning a war, and therefore no better chance of avoiding the inevitable consequence of launching a nuke: national suicide. Kim may end up trapped in the circular logic of his strategy. He seeks to avoid destruction by building a weapon that, if used, assures his destruction.

His regime thrives on crisis. Perhaps when he feels safe enough with his arsenal, he might turn to more-sensible goals, like building the North Korean economy, opening trade, and ending its decades of extreme isolation. All of these are the very things that create the framework needed for disarmament.

But acceptance, while the right choice, is yet another bad one. With such missiles, Kim might feel emboldened to move on South Korea. Would the U.S. sacrifice Los Angeles to save Seoul? The same calculation drove the U.K. and France to develop their own nuclear weapons during the Cold War. Trump has already suggested that South Korea and Japan might want to consider building nuclear programs. In this way, acceptance could lead to more nuclear-armed states and ever greater chances that one will use the weapons.

With his arsenal, Kim may well become an even more destabilizing force in the region. There is a good chance that he would try to negotiate from strength with Seoul and Washington, forging some kind of confederation with the South that leads to the removal of U.S. forces from the peninsula. If talks were to resume, Trump had better enter them with his eyes open, because Kim, who sees himself as the divinely inspired heir to leadership of all the Korean people, is not likely to be satisfied with only his half of the peninsula.

There is no sign of panic in Seoul. Writing for The New York Times from the city in April, Motoko Rich found residents busy with their normal lives, eating at restaurants, crowding in bars, and clogging some of the most congested highways in the world. In a poll taken before the May election, fewer than 10 percent of South Koreans rated the North Korean nuclear threat as their top concern.

“Since I have been living here for so long, I am not scared anymore,” said Gwon Hyuck-chae, an elderly barber in Munsan, about five miles from the DMZ. “Even if there was a war now, it would not give us enough time to flee. We would all just die in an instant.”

Although in late April Trump called Kim “a madman with nuclear weapons,” perhaps the most reassuring thing about pursuing the acceptance option is that Kim appears to be neither suicidal nor crazy. In the five and a half years since assuming power at age 27, he has acted with brutal efficiency to consolidate that power; the assassination of his half brother is only the most recent example. As tyrants go, he’s shown appalling natural ability. For a man who occupies a position both powerful and perilous, his moves have been nothing if not deliberate and even cruelly rational.

And as the latest head of a family that has ruled for three generations, one whose primary purpose has been to survive, as a young man with a lifetime of wealth and power before him, how likely is he to wake up one morning and set fire to his world?

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N. Korea says its nuclear program not subject to negotiation

2017/06/25 10:59


SEOUL, June 25 (Yonhap) -- North Korea's state media said Sunday its nuclear weapons program is not subject to negotiation, vowing to continue developing its defensive capabilities.

Pyongyang's official newspaper Rodong Sinmun said in an editorial that South Korea and the United States should give up attempts to make the North abandon its nuclear weapons.

"We should make every effort to strengthen our national defense with the nuclear capability as the backbone," it said. "Our self-defensive nuclear deterrent force is never subject to any kind of negotiations."

"If South Korea truly wants to improve the Korean ties and seek peace, it should stop picking on our nuclear deterrent force and stand against the U.S.'s plot for first nuclear strike on the North," it said.

North Korea has long claimed that its development of nuclear weapons is a deterrent against what it calls Washington's hostile policy toward it.

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Lilbitsnana

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Well, then, it looks like it might be an interesting month. (June 25-July24)

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N. Korea boasts of nuke capabilities at mass rally

2017/06/25 18:45


SEOUL, June 25 (Yonhap) -- North Korea boasted of its nuclear capabilities at a mass rally held on Sunday to commemorate the 67th anniversary of the Korean War, stressing its status as a nuclear power state against U.S. threats.

"DPRK is truly a nuclear power and we are ready to take down on those that do nothing but make nuclear threats using their nuclear deterrence," Cha Hui-rim, chairman of the Pyongyang City People's Committee was quoted by the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) as saying. DPRK is the acronym for North Korea's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

His remark came amid a mass rally staged at Kim Il-sung Square to mark the anniversary of the inter-Korean war. The two countries are technically still at war after the 1950-53 war ended in a truce, not a peace treaty.

Accusing the U.S. of starting the war against the North in 1950, he said that the North will "annihilate all invaders by the dint of single-minded unity" if it attacks the North again, and will use "all military force to achieve all military force and single-minded unity to achieve national reunification."


Among the ranking officials that attended the rally were Kim Ki-nam, the North's propaganda chief, and former Foreign Minister Ri Su-yong, according to the KCNA.

Every year, Pyongyang bolsters anti-American propaganda on its people for a month starting from June 25, the day when the Korean War broke out.

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EU Discussing Role as Broker on North Korea

Talks with China and South Korea come amid new pressure in Europe and U.S. to curtail Pyongyang

By Jeremy Page in Beijing and Laurence Norman in Brussels
June 20, 2017 4:41 p.m. ET

The European Union is in discussions with South Korea and China about taking a potential role as a broker for negotiations with North Korea on ending its nuclear program, according to EU officials involved in the effort.

The discussions reflect concern in Brussels, Seoul and Beijing that sanctions alone won’t persuade Pyongyang to halt its nuclear program and that negotiations are needed to avoid military conflict.

The death this week of Otto Warmbier, the American college student imprisoned in North Korea for more than a year before returning home with a severe brain injury, has added to pressure in Washington for more strenuous action against Pyongyang.

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that China has been unable to crack down on North Korea, pointing to a new direction for U.S. policies. “While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out,” Mr. Trump said in a Twitter message.

A series of meetings in recent weeks in Brussels and Beijing have focused on ways that participants believe the EU could facilitate negotiations with North Korea, drawing on its members’ diplomatic ties with Pyongyang and on its experience in helping to negotiate the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, the officials said.

EU officials have discussed the matter with Chinese Premier Li Keqiang during his visit to Brussels this month, and with South Korea’s special envoy, Cho Yoon-je, in May.

Any role for Brussels would need backing from Washington and EU member states, neither of which is assured.

The Trump administration doesn’t see Brussels as having the necessary leverage to help extract real concessions from Pyongyang on its nuclear program, a senior U.S. official said. There would be a concern, the official said, that the process would be used to water down Washington’s call for a full dismantling of North Korea’s nuclear program.

“Would the process be used to manage us or manage the North Koreans?” said the official.

The Wall Street Journal reported this week that the U.S. has held secret talks with North Korea for more than a year, hoping to free U.S. prisoners and establish a diplomatic channel for efforts to constrain Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile programs.

EU officials said they wouldn’t do anything to undermine U.S. moves to tighten economic sanctions on Pyongyang.

Officials from the 28 EU member states were set to meet Wednesday to begin discussing an overhaul of the bloc’s North Korea policy guidelines, which were written in 2011.

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That process is likely to take weeks but a draft text to be discussed at the meeting says the bloc is ready to “actively cooperate” in multilateral negotiations—a line that could meet with some resistance among member nations.

Also on Wednesday, senior U.S. and Chinese officials are set to meet in Washington to discuss security matters.

EU officials said they were worried by Mr. Trump’s recent remarks suggesting he was considering military action against Pyongyang, which has conducted nine missile tests since Mr. Trump’s inauguration.

EU foreign-policy chief Federica Mogherini has called on all sides to reduce tensions and said any risk of military intervention should be avoided.

The North Korea crisis also comes at a time of strain in U.S.-European relations. Senior EU officials have acknowledged growing differences with Washington across various foreign-policy issues.

“It’s our view that at some point you need a credible diplomatic process,” said a senior EU official.

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The official noted that European companies have billions of dollars of trade and investment at stake in east Asia. “In that context, Europe is ready to be more engaged and is sharing the good experience and results achieved in the Iran nuclear negotiations.”

EU officials stressed that talks were at an early stage and said they wouldn’t take any initiatives without Seoul’s request. South Korea has a new appetite for engagement with Pyongyang following the election in May of President Moon Jae-in, an advocate of closer ties to Pyongyang.

The Chinese and South Korean foreign ministries didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Many of the EU’s 28 member states are cautious about the idea of putting the bloc at the center of North Korea negotiations.

Some are wary of involvement in such a diplomatic minefield in the midst of Brexit negotiations. Others want to avoid any steps that could be seen as undermining U.S. policy and are focused more on raising economic pressure on Pyongyang. The bloc has continued to tighten sanctions on Pyongyang, going beyond those imposed by the U.N.

U.S. officials have so far been skeptical of a potential EU role on North Korea, since Pyongyang has long indicated that it wants to deal directly with Washington. Mr. Trump, as well, has been fiercely critical of the Iran deal.

Formal talks would likely need to involve other countries, U.S. officials said, and there is little appetite in Washington for resuming the “Six Party Talks”—among North and South Korea, the U.S., China, Japan and Russia—that began in 2003 and collapsed shortly before Pyongyang’s second nuclear test in 2009.

China, which hosted those talks, has long called for their resumption, but the U.S. sees them as being too tightly controlled by Beijing. Although China continues to provide economic support to North Korea for strategic reasons, relations have deteriorated in recent years, Chinese officials say, making it less likely that Pyongyang would tolerate a lead role for Beijing.

EU officials said Brussels may be seen as a more neutral party by all sides, as 26 of its member states have formal diplomatic relations with Pyongyang and seven maintain embassies there.

One champion of the idea in Brussels is Ms. Mogherini, who chaired the final rounds of negotiations on Iran’s nuclear program in 2015. The EU has invited Wu Dawei, China’s special representative for Korean affairs, to visit Brussels, and he has responded positively, without confirming a date, according to EU officials.

—Jonathan Cheng in Seoul and Jay Solomon in Washington contributed to this article.

Write to Jeremy Page at jeremy.page@wsj.com and Laurence Norman at laurence.norman@wsj.com
 

Lilbitsnana

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Well, Park might have wanted it, but I don't think Moon will ever attempt it.

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Source: Park signed off on plot to oust, even kill, Kim Jong Un http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201706260024.html … h/t @TheJihyeLee



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.@asahi: @GH_PARK "signed off on plot to oust, even kill, Kim Jong Un." #SKorea's NIS says it's not true.


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Source: Park signed off on plot to oust, even kill, Kim Jong Un

By YOSHIHIRO MAKINO/ Correspondent

June 26, 2017 at 15:45 JST



SEOUL--As South Korean president, Park Geun-hye approved a covert plan to oust North Korean leader Kim Jong Un--including assassination--and to cover Seoul’s tracks, a source said.

The plan was floated when the conservative Park was growing increasingly frustrated and taking a more confrontational stance against the northern neighbor, according to the source knowledgeable about policy toward North Korea during Park’s administration.

A land mine explosion near the demilitarized zone in August 2015 injured two South Korean soldiers and heightened tensions on the Korean Peninsula. But marathon talks between officials of the two sides avoided a full-blown military confrontation.

However, when U.S. President Barack Obama met with Park in October 2015, he again stressed that Washington would only enter dialogue with Pyongyang if it had taken steps toward denuclearization.

That stance, in turn, led Seoul to reconsider its plans for dialogue and shift toward a more adversarial relationship with North Korea.


After a meeting of officials from the two Koreas ended on a negative note in December 2015, Park signed a document that gave the green light for a “leadership change” in North Korea. The National Intelligence Service (NIS) was put in charge of the policy.

Although details of the actual plan are sketchy, the options included Kim’s retirement, political exile or even assassination, the source said.

Careful planning was conducted to cover any trace of Seoul’s hand in such operations because a change in North Korean leadership that had even an inkling of South Korean involvement would likely lead to military retaliation, the source said.

The plotters apparently considered staging an “accident” on the road or over water to eliminate Kim, but tight security prevented any mission from being carried out, the source said.

Park was further infuriated by North Korea’s nuclear tests in January and September 2016, and she began to publicly criticize Kim in her speeches.

But she also emphasized that she did not view the North Korean populace as the enemy.

In a speech given in August 2016, she called out directly to North Korean government officials and the general population for a unification of the two Koreas. Two months later, she urged North Korean citizens to defect from their nation.

Another source said Park’s moves were an attempt to spur a “palace revolution” among those in high-ranking positions close to Kim.

Sources said plans to bring down Kim were also pushed forward by NIS reports that described an unstable North Korean society suffering from power and water shortages as well as the rule of a paranoid leader fearful of an attack on himself.

Those reports apparently led to the belief that a leadership change was possible in North Korea.

That may have led the NIS to funnel such intelligence reports to the president, while ignoring analyses of other officials that painted a picture of a stable North Korean economy helped through the partial introduction of capitalist economic measures as well as a unified leadership structure under Kim that would make a regime change very difficult.

A leadership change did take place, but it occurred in South Korea, when Park was impeached in a corruption scandal.

Moon Jae-in, who became South Korean president in May, campaigned on a pledge to promote dialogue with North Korea. He has not likely adopted the plan to oust Kim.
 

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Well, there is no way that millions of South Korea would not die if a war starts with North Korea.

It is a matter of distance. The main population in South Korea is very close to the border that is shared with North Korea.

Then there are the tunnels etc. Nothing would be simple.
 

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Another convoy of trucks crosses from China to North Korea: source (convoy includes at least 5 mobile cranes) https://www.nknews.org/pro/another-convoy-of-trucks-crosses-from-china-to-n-korea-source/



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DPRK Youths and Farmers Vow Revenge on U.S. [CC] https://youtu.be/Kqiqa_TmPcs via @YouTube
 

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China Deploys Elite Brigades Near North Korean Border http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2262194-china-deploys-elite-brigades-near-north-korean-border/ … via @epochtimes


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China Deploys Elite Brigades Near North Korean Border
Reorganization of 15th Airborne Army hints at preparation for a worst-case scenario
By Leo Timm, The Epoch Times |

June 26, 2017 AT 11:17 PM

Last Updated: June 27, 2017 10:37 am

Chinese soldiers stand at attention during Peace Mission-2016 joint military exercises of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in the Edelweiss training area in Balykchy some 200 km from Bishkek on September 19, 2016. (VYACHESLAV OSELEDKO/AFP/Getty Images)

Chinese soldiers stand at attention during Peace Mission-2016 joint military exercises of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in the Edelweiss training area in Balykchy some 200 km from Bishkek on September 19, 2016. (VYACHESLAV OSELEDKO/AFP/Getty Images)

As relations between China and North Korea continue to deteriorate amidst Pyongyang’s dogged pursuit of nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army has made what appear to be preparatory deployments in the border province of Jilin.

On June 15, the state-controlled China Military Online published snapshots of airborne troops training with WZ-10 attack helicopters of the Gongzhuling air force base near Changchun, capital of Jilin Province.

The troops are reportedly from the 15th Airborne Army, which was reorganized in April, according to Sina Military Net. The army had been a divisional unit, but was dispersed into a force of smaller brigades, which were attached to various ground units across China.

The Sina report said that this was the first time after reorganization that some of the brigades belonging to the airborne force were deployed to northeastern China, which is located in China’s Northern Theater Command.

In May, Guofang Shikong, a state-run military channel whose name means “National Defence Space,” made reference to an “unspecified airborne brigade of the Northern Military Region air force.”

Prior to the change, the 15th army was based in Xiaogan, Hubei Province, with the majority of the troops deployed in Hubei and Henan provinces in the central and southern commands. Geographically, Hubei and Henan are located in the center of China, an ideal place for the speedy deployment of airborne troops to anywhere in the country.

In an interview with Taiwan’s CZentral News Agency, Chinese military expert Song Zhongping said that the restructuring of the airborne force made it more versatile and capable of operating with heavier equipment in conjunction with conventional troops.

This could be critical in a wartime situation involving North Korea, as discussed in the Sina article. Missions to quickly and reliably secure or destroy Pyongyang’s nuclear and ballistic arsenal–while perhaps fighting a large-scale conventional war–would be essential for China to ensure the safety of its major cities, many of which are well within the range of North Korean ballistic missiles.

Eva Fu contributed to this article.
 

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Dire warning on #DPRK from former undersecretary of state for political affairs:

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Wendy Sherman tells @SCClemons that we may come to brink (of war) to deal with threat of North Korea. #AspenIdeas https://www.facebook.com/aspenideas/videos/1751325124896852/
 

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https://nextshark.com/japan-warns-citizens-north-korean-nuclear-strike-new-chilling-broadcast/

Japan Warns Citizens Of North Korean Nuclear Strike in New Chilling Broadcast

By Carl Samson
Posted on June 27, 2017

In a new national broadcast, Japan alerted its citizens to seek shelter in sturdy buildings or lie face down on the ground in the unfortunate event that North Korea fires a nuclear missile at the country.

The 30-second announcement is being aired on 43 TV stations from now until early July, while written instructions are being printed in 70 newspapers throughout Japan,*The Telegraph*reported.

The government will keep the public informed through speakers across the country should a missile attack break out.

It also asked citizens to stay away from windows and protect their heads if they happen to be inside buildings, with underground shopping malls being recommended as shelters, too.

The warning comes amid increasing tensions between the states.

In May, North Korea alarmed Japan when it conducted a missile test in the direction of the latter. The projectile traveled 15 times the speed of sound and peaked at an altitude of 2,000 kilometers (1,243 miles) before crashing into the Sea of Japan.

More recently, a national security source told Nikkei:

“North Korea*appears to have completed the development of a Japan-targeted nuclear missile.”

Japan is the only country that has ever suffered the devastation of a nuclear war, The Sun noted, when the U.S. dropped two atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the last days of World War II.

The attack killed more than 250,000 civilians while many suffered the lingering effects of radiation.
 

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OPINION

What China wants in return for pressuring North Korea

by Tom Rogan | Jun 27, 2017, 11:12 AM

The road to Pyongyang runs through Beijing. Even President Trump admits that China is the key to persuading North Korea to abandon its nuclear and ballistic missile programs.

And Chinese action is urgent. Each passing day, North Korea moves closer to being able launch a nuclear warhead at Hawaii or the U.S. West Coast. No president can ask the people of an American state to endure the threat of a demented regime firing nuclear weapons at them.

Action is necessary.

Unfortunately, China recognizes it has major leverage. Accounting for around 75 percent of North Korean exports — the equivalent of $1.1 trillion to the U.S. economy — China knows that if it tells North Korea to do something, Pyongyang's leaders have a vested interest in listening. And here's the catch: China also knows that the U.S. government is aware of its prospective influencing power.

And from China's perspective, that's an opportunity.

Because nothing is free. In return for altering North Korean behavior, China wants the U.S. to yield to its quest to dominate Southeast Asia.

It's a quest with two strategic parts. The first is the Asia Investment and Infrastructure Bank. Offering tens of billions of dollars in grants and loans, the AIIB allows China to buy, bribe, and coerce other states into accepting its economic domination. By crowding out alternate rule-of-law based investments from the U.S., China wins a monopoly of regional political influence.

The second element is military. It involves constructing artificial islands in the South China Sea, and the militarization of those islands so that China can deny vessels transit through those waters. If China can control access to these trade-going waters, it will put immense pressure on states like Vietnam and the Philippines. They will face a choice between kneeling to China's rule or enduring economic depression.

America mustn't play this game.

Were the U.S. to accept Chinese hegemony in return for pressuring North Korea, it would abandon the region to to 1930s-style imperialism. And as with President Barack Obama's Syrian red line, it would show American willingnesss to sacrifice her interests.

There is, however, an alternative.

If the Trump administration deploys additional military assets to the region, and is seen to be credibly preparing for pre-emptive strikes, China will do much more to coerce a change in North Korean behavior. After all, as much as China wants U.S. concessions, it wants even more to avoid a war on the Korean peninsula. It knows that a war would destroy Kim Jong Un's regime, and likely send millions of refugees and tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers flooding towards China's southern border. At that point, China's sense of security would come under great threat.

All of this leads to a simple conclusion: When it comes to North Korea, the U.S. must be willing to up the ante. If we don't, China will keep believing that we are bluffing about the threat of using force against the Hermit Kingdom. And nothing short of war will change Pyongyang's calculations.
 

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Donald Trump considering China sanctions over North Korea, say officials

Inaction over Pyongyang and trade war thought to have prompted the US president to look at options including tariffs on steel imports

Reuters
Tuesday 27 June 2017 23.03 EDT

US president Donald Trump is growing increasingly frustrated with China over its inaction on North Korea and bilateral trade issues and is now considering possible trade actions against Beijing, three senior administration officials told Reuters.

The officials said Trump was impatient with China and was looking at options including tariffs on steel imports, which commerce secretary Wilbur Ross has already said he is considering as part of a national security study of the domestic steel industry.

Whether Trump would actually take any steps against China remains unclear. In April, he backed off from a threat to withdraw from the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta) after he said Canadian and Mexican leaders asked him to halt a planned executive order in favour of opening discussions.

The officials said there was no consensus yet on the way forward with China and they did not say what other options were being studied. No decision was expected this week, a senior official said.

Chinese steel is already subject to dozens of anti-dumping and anti-subsidy orders. As a result it has only a small share of the US market.

“What’s guiding this is he ran to protect American industry and American workers,” one of the US officials said, referring to Trump’s 2016 election promise to take a hard line on trade with China.

On North Korea, Trump “feels like he gave China a chance to make a difference” but has not seen enough results, the official said.

The US has pressed China to exert more economic and diplomatic pressure on North Korea to help rein in its nuclear and missile programs. Beijing has repeatedly said its influence on North Korea is limited and that it is doing all it can.

“They did a little, not a lot,” the official said. “And if he’s not going to get what he needs on that, he needs to move ahead on his broader agenda on trade and on North Korea.”

The death of American university student Otto Warmbier last week, after his release from 17 months of imprisonment in Pyongyang, has further complicated Trump’s approach to North Korea, his top national security challenge.

Trump signalled his disappointment with China’s efforts in a tweet a week ago: “While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!”

Trump had made a grand gesture of his desire for warm ties with China’s president, Xi Jinping, when he played host to Xi in April at his Mar-a-Lago retreat in Palm Beach, Florida. “I think China will be stepping up,” Trump said at the time.

Since then, however, North Korea’s tests of long-range missiles have continued unabated and there have been reports Pyongyang is preparing for another underground nuclear test.

Trump dropped by last Thursday when White House national security adviser HR McMaster and Trump senior adviser Jared Kushner were meeting Chinese state councillor Yang Jiechi, an official said. China’s inability to make headway on North Korea was one of the topics that was discussed, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

Officials in Beijing did not respond to a request for comment on the meeting.
 

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#NorthKorea threatens to kill South's ex-president Park, KCNA news agency reports - @AFP


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AFP news agency‏Verified account @AFP 17m17 minutes ago

#BREAKING North Korea threatens to kill South's ex-president Park, KCNA news agency reports
 

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Magnitude 2.7 Quake Jolts North Korea's Yongbyon http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/news/news_IK_detail.htm?No=128323&id=IK


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Magnitude 2.7 Quake Jolts N. Korea's Yongbyon

Write : 2017-06-28 14:47:55 Update : 2017-06-28 15:45:00
Magnitude 2.7 Quake Jolts N. Korea's Yongbyon

An earthquake with a magnitude of two-point-seven occurred in Yongbyon in North Korea’s North Pyongang Province at 1 p.m. Wednesday.

The Korea Meteorological Administration said that the quake was centered 22 kilometers north of Yongbyon, the North's main nuclear complex. It said that analysis on seismic waves concluded that the quake was natural and not an artificial one caused by a nuclear test.

With the latest quake, the Korean Peninsula has seen 90 earthquakes with a magnitude of more than two this year.
 

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The Intel Crab‏ @IntelCrab 9m9 minutes ago

#NorthKorea threatens to kill South's ex-president Park, KCNA news agency reports - @AFP


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#BREAKING North Korea threatens to kill South's ex-president Park, KCNA news agency reports


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(3rd LD) N. Korea warns of capital punishment against ex-President Park

2017/06/28 22:58


(ATTN: CHANGES photo; ADDS additional NIS comment in 2nd para from bottom, Park unavailable for comment in last para)

SEOUL, June 28 (Yonhap) -- North Korea on Wednesday warned of capital punishment against a former South Korean president and former spy chief for their alleged plot to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

The angry statement came after a Japanese media report that former South Korean President Park Geun-hye had instructed former National Intelligence Service (NIS) Director Lee Byung-ho to oust Kim by any means -- including assassination.

The latest claim came amid lingering tensions on the Korean peninsula over North Korea's nuclear and missile programs.

"Former President Park Geun-hye and former spy chief Lee Byung-ho as well as NIS agents can never make any appeal even though they meet miserable dog's death any time, at any place and by whatever methods from this moment," the North Korea Ministry of State Security said in an English-language statement carried by the country's official Korean Central News Agency.

This graphic shows, from left, former NIS chief Lee Byung-ho, former South Korean President Park Geun-hye and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. (Yonhap) This graphic shows, from left, former NIS chief Lee Byung-ho, former South Korean President Park Geun-hye and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. (Yonhap)

The statement demanded South Korea immediately hand over Park and Lee to North Korea, claiming they committed what it claims is hideous state-sponsored terrorism against the North's supreme leadership.

North Korea also warned it will impose summary punishment without advance notice on those who organized, took part in or pursued the plot in case the U.S. and South Korea again try to stage a terrorist attack against North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

"We do not hide that should the U.S. and the South Korean authorities defy this warning and challenge our resolute measure, they will be made to pay a dear price in an irresistible physical way," said the statement, which was also issued by the Ministry of People's Security and the Central Public Prosecutors Office.

When contacted by Yonhap, the NIS dismissed "as groundless" North Korea's allegation of South Korea's assassination plot against North Korean leader Kim.

The spy agency also said the North's "open threat" against South Korean citizens won't be tolerated at all.

Former President Park is not available for comment as she is in jail after being impeached in March for her involvement in a massive corruption scandal that toppled the nation and resulted in a presidential election in May.

kyongae.choi@yna.co.kr

(END)
 

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North Korea vows to kill ex-South Korean leader "any time, at any place"



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June 28, 2017, 10:47 AM
N. Korea vows to kill ex-S. Korean leader "any time, at any place"

South Korean President Park Geun-hye releases a statement of apology to the public during a news conference at the Presidential Blue House in Seoul, South Korea, October 25, 2016.
REUTERS

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea on Wednesday vowed to execute South Korea's former president and her spy director, accusing them of planning to assassinate its supreme leadership.

The official Korean Central News Agency said North Korea will impose a "death penalty" on ousted South Korean President Park Geun-hye and former spy chief Lee Byoung Ho, and they could receive a "miserable dog's death any time, at any place and by whatever methods from this moment."
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It accused Park of pushing forward a secret operation to "replace the supreme leadership" of the North beginning in late 2015 in a plan purportedly spearheaded by the South's National Intelligence Service that included an assassination plot. It said the plan was automatically scrapped when lawmakers impeached Park last December over a corruption scandal.

The North's statement was issued under the name of the country's Ministry of State Security, the Ministry of People's Security and the Central Public Prosecutors Office.

North Korea also demanded that South Korea hand over Park and Lee under "international convention" because they committed "state-sponsored terrorism."

An official from the South's National Intelligence Agency said the allegations were untrue. She didn't want to be named, citing office rules.

North Korean propaganda often contains extreme claims. In May, it accused the U.S. and South Korean spy agencies of an unsuccessful assassination attempt on leader Kim Jong Un involving biochemical weapons.
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Following months of massive protests, Park was formally removed from office and arrested in March over the corruption scandal. She was indicted in April on bribery and other charges.

Relations between the rival Koreas deteriorated under Park's conservative government, which maintained a hard line toward North Korea. The North conducted two nuclear tests and a series of missile launches during her presidency as it expanded its nuclear weapons program. North Korea frequently used invectives toward Park, once calling her a "murderous demon" de
 

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South Korea spy agency says "unpardonable" North Korea threatens its citizens


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Wed Jun 28, 2017 | 9:54am EDT
S.Korea spy agency says "unpardonable" N.Korea threatens its citizens

South Korea's spy agency said on Wednesday it was "unpardonable" that North Korea made threats against its citizens after the North issued a standing order to execute the former leader of the South for a purported assassination plot.

North Korea issued a statement earlier on Wednesday with a standing order for the execution of former South Korean President Park Geun-hye and her spy chief for a plot to assassinate its leader, and it demanded that the South hand the pair over. (Reporting by Jack Kim; Editing by Toby Chopra)
 

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I wonder what, if anything, NK will do while he is here?


Yonhap News Agency‏ @YonhapNews 8m8 minutes ago

S. Korean president arrives in U.S. for summit with Trump
 

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Magnitude 2.7 Quake Jolts North Korea's Yongbyon http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/news/news_IK_detail.htm?No=128323&id=IK


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Magnitude 2.7 Quake Jolts N. Korea's Yongbyon

Write : 2017-06-28 14:47:55 Update : 2017-06-28 15:45:00
Magnitude 2.7 Quake Jolts N. Korea's Yongbyon

An earthquake with a magnitude of two-point-seven occurred in Yongbyon in North Korea’s North Pyongang Province at 1 p.m. Wednesday.

The Korea Meteorological Administration said that the quake was centered 22 kilometers north of Yongbyon, the North's main nuclear complex. It said that analysis on seismic waves concluded that the quake was natural and not an artificial one caused by a nuclear test.

With the latest quake, the Korean Peninsula has seen 90 earthquakes with a magnitude of more than two this year.


I saw this posted on my twitter account this morning at about 0330 but was unable to find it again. I don't know if the twitter feed that posted it
deleted it or what but it was gone.

My house is about 200m from the gate of K-16 Airbase so anything NK related gets my interest!

JGB
 

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...a-being-prepared-for-trump-mcmaster-says.html

Military option for North Korea being prepared for Trump, McMaster says

Published June 29, 2017

President Trump's national security adviser said Wednesday that the administration is considering a wider range of strategies on how to deal with North Korea, including the military option.

“The threat is much more immediate now and so it’s clear that we can’t repeat the same approach – failed approach of the past,” H.R. McMaster, the adviser, said during a security conference with Homeland Security Chief John Kelly.

He said it would be insanity to continue to do the same thing the U.S. has done for years and expect a different result.

McMaster’s comments come a day before Trump is scheduled to meet with South Korean President Moon Jae-in. South Korea’s new leader vowed to stand firmly with Trump against North Korea, downplaying his past advocacy for a softer approach toward the isolated regime.

"Together we will achieve the dismantlement of North Korea's nuclear program, peace on the Korean Peninsula and eventually peace in Northeast Asia," Moon said.

The talks between Moon and Trump, which begin with dinner on Thursday night and then formal talks on Friday, come amid intense wrangling over North Korea.

China is pushing the United States to start negotiations with the North. That prospect appears unlikely as Trump grows frustrated over Beijing's level of economic pressure on the North, its wayward ally.

North Korea shows no sign of wanting to restart talks on abandoning its nuclear weapons program.

Moon told The Washington Post that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is "unreasonable" and "very dangerous" and that pressure was necessary. But Moon said sanctions alone would not solve the problem, and dialogue was needed "under the right conditions."

The THAAD missile defense is also expected to be talked about. Seoul delayed the full deployment of the U.S. system that is intended to protect South Korea and the 28,000 U.S. forces on the peninsula.

Moon's government has ordered an environmental review before allowing additional launchers for the Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense system. South Korean officials say that does not mean they are placating China or reversing the decision, which risks angering Washington.

The U.S. has stepped up shows of military force near the Korean Peninsula under Trump, and outrage in Washington over North Korea has only grown since the death last week of U.S. university student Otto Warmbier. He had spent 17 months in detention in the totalitarian nation for stealing a propaganda poster and returned home this month in a coma. Three other Americans and six South Koreans are still being held in the North.
 

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I saw this posted on my twitter account this morning at about 0330 but was unable to find it again. I don't know if the twitter feed that posted it
deleted it or what but it was gone.

My house is about 200m from the gate of K-16 Airbase so anything NK related gets my interest!

JGB

Wow...front row seats to a bad play.

I will keep you and yours in my prayers.
 

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Steve Herman‏Verified account @W7VOA 37m37 minutes ago

Two different actions against #DPRK weapons of mass destruction today by @USTreasury, clarifies @stevenmnuchin1.
 

JGB

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Wow...front row seats to a bad play.

I will keep you and yours in my prayers.

Thank you!

I've been here for three years and will probably be here two more. The closest we came to going real hot was August of 2015 when we traded artillery. That was an interesting week.
 

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this is a translation of the tweet:

NHK News Verified account @ nhk_news 18 m 18 minutes ago

【News Special: Tension # North Korea Situation】 North Korea is accelerating the development of ballistic missiles and repeating launches. I summarized in the illustration what the interception pattern of Japan is, and made it public on the special page. Http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/northkorea_provocation / ...


image that goes with it: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDif3B1W0AA3f3T.jpg



original tweet:

Nathan J Hunt Retweeted
NHKニュース‏Verified account @nhk_news 21m21 minutes ago

【ニュース特設:緊迫 #北朝鮮情勢】弾道ミサイルの開発を加速させ、発射を繰り返す北朝鮮。日本の迎撃態勢はどうなっているのか、図説にまとめ、特設ページに公開しました。http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/northkorea_provocation/
 

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North Korea warns US it will keep building nuclear arsenal
By EDITH M. LEDERER Associated Press
June 28, 2017 — 6:00pm

UNITED NATIONS — North Korea's U.N. ambassador warned the United States and the rest of the world Wednesday that his country will keep building up its nuclear arsenal regardless of sanctions, pressure or military attack.

Kim In Ryong told the U.N. Security Council that the more than 50-year confrontation between North Korea and the United States came closer to the brink of nuclear war than ever before when the U.S. military held what he called its largest-ever "aggressive" maneuvers with South Korea in April and May.

Since then, he said, the United States has sent B-1B nuclear bombers into South Korean airspace, deployed the THAAD anti-missile system in the country, imposed new U.S. sanctions against North Korea, and spearheaded another U.N. sanctions resolution.

Kim said the Trump administration is pursuing an outdated "hostile policy" toward the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, which is North Korea's official name.

He said the United States is modernizing its nuclear weapons but other countries aren't allowed "to test or launch any object which goes with the words of nuclear or ballistic."

"This is really the height of shameless arrogance, self-righteousness and double standards," he said.

Accusing the U.S. of trying to hold down North Korea and retain a military edge in Asia as part of "its dream of world domination," Kim said the North Korean people have concluded that to defend their rights and sovereignty they must respond in kind.

"No matter what others say, whatever sanctions, pressure and military attack may follow, we will not flinch from the road to build up nuclear forces, which was chosen to defend the sovereignty of the country and the rights to national existence," he said.

The North Korean ambassador was making a rare appearance in the Security Council at an open meeting on implementation of a resolution adopted in 2004 aimed at keeping terrorists, extremists and other "non-state actors" from obtaining nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. He has boycotted council meetings dealing with U.N. sanctions against North Korea.

A statement read at the council meeting by Spain's U.N. ambassador, Roman Oyarzun Marchesi, on behalf of 51 countries that strongly oppose the spread of weapons of mass destruction condemns "proliferation in all possible forms by anyone" — and vows to "make every effort to prevent it."

"In this connection, we condemn in the strongest terms the nuclear weapons and ballistic missile development activities conducted by the DPRK in flagrant violation of the Security Council's resolutions," said the statement, whose signatories include the United States and countries from Asia, Africa, the Mideast, Latin America and Europe.

The U.N. disarmament chief, Izumi Nakamitsu, warned the Security Council that advancements in science and technology in an increasingly interconnected world are making it more difficult to prevent "the disastrous scenario" of terrorists using nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. She said that while globalization brings new opportunities for economic growth and development it also facilitates the rapid movement of materials and the latest scientific and technological discoveries as well as people with expertise.

"Non-state actors including terrorist organizations will exploit any loophole to obtain these technologies," she said.

"While there are still significant technical hurdles that terrorist groups need to overcome to effectively use weapons of mass destruction, a growing number of emerging technologies could make this barrier easier to cross," Nakamitsu said.

She pointed to the use of drones, 3D printers and the exploitation of "dark web" as a marketplace to buy dual-use equipment and materials.

"Dual use is further complicating our efforts to address the risk posed by the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction," Nakamitsu said.
 

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WASHINGTON, June 30 (Yonhap) -- The leaders of South Korea and the United States joined their voices Friday in urging North Korea to give up its nuclear ambition, calling it a "better path" for the safety and security of its own people.

U.S. President Donald Trump called on all regional powers to take part in implementing sanctions against the North and "demanding that the North Korean regime to choose a better path and do it quickly for its long suffering people."

In a joint press conference with South Korean President Moon following their bilateral summit at the White House, the U.S. leader also declared his country's strategic patience towards the communist North was over.

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