CORONA ‘NO TIME TO WAIT’ Terrifying new Covid strain emerges that spreads FIVE TIMES quicker making contact tracing impossible - LIE, see post 130

abby normal

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Coming to America soon?


A NEW strain of coronavirus has been detected in South Australia that it is thought could spread up to five times quicker than previous strains.


The news is part of the reason the state has entered a strict six-day lockdown despite only 36 active cases of the virus having been identified.

The lockdown came into force at midnight on Wednesday as authorities moved to stop a second wave taking hold.


Discussing the decision, Professor Nicola Spurrier, chief health officer for South Australia, said: “This particular strain has had certain characteristics. It has a very, very short incubation period.


"That means when somebody gets exposed, it is taking 24 hours or even less for that person to become infectious to others."



People contracting earlier strains of Covid could become infectious as early as day one or late as day 14, but the average was around five to six days.


Spurrier continued: "The other characteristic of the cases we have seen so far is they have had minimal symptoms and sometimes no symptoms but have been able to pass it to other people.”


She went on to explain that the speed at which the current strain is able to spread meant that contact tracing in the state had already identified at least five "generations" of infections.


In epidemiology, a person is said to be in the first generation of infections if they were infected by the patient zero.



Anyone infected by a person in the first generation is in the second generation, and so on.


Spurrier said that the length of one generation is currently around only three days.


“At the moment in SA we have done contact tracing to the fourth generation but the fifth generation is out there in our community and at the moment we are contact tracing to get on to that generation," she said.


There is concern that the virus is already spreading through the western suburbs of state capital Adelaide after a number of outbreaks were identified.

'RIGHT TO BE CAUTIOUS'

Professor Allen Cheng, acting chief health officer in the neighbouring state of Victoria, said it was possible the apparent speed of the spread was accounted for by improved testing, the Guardian reported.


He said it could be that new cases were being identified early in the incubation period, before people developed symptoms, but added that authorities in South Australia were right to be cautious.


The new lockdown will see a ban on regional travel and people told they must stay at home, including for any exercise.


Mask-wearing will be mandated in public and schools and universities will close to all students except the children of key workers.


Restaurants and cafes will also be closed without the option to provide a takeaway service.


State premier Steven Marshall said the measures were intended as a circuit breaker.


“There is no second chance to stop a second wave,” he said.

Spurrier said that a six-day period had been chosen because that represented two generations of the virus.


“We have no time to wait," she said.


"If I thought about this all day and then told the police commissioner, the premier, tonight, he would already be 12 hours behind so we really need to act fast under this."
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Not the common cold but a Corona Virus-like the Common Cold (same family) and it mutates like the common cold (probably).

The fast mutation rate is why there are no good vaccines for the common cold and color me skeptical they can get one for COVID-19 that will be long-lasting or effective for this very reason.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Not the common cold but a Corona Virus-like the Common Cold (same family) and it mutates like the common cold (probably).

The fast mutation rate is why there are no good vaccines for the common cold and color me skeptical they can get one for COVID-19 that will be long-lasting or effective for this very reason.
Well, the good news is that they should have almost instant herd immunity, assuming there is such a thing.
 

Con-tractor

The Mad in Genius
Not the common cold but a Corona Virus-like the Common Cold (same family) and it mutates like the common cold (probably).

The fast mutation rate is why there are no good vaccines for the common cold and color me skeptical they can get one for COVID-19 that will be long-lasting or effective for this very reason.

Best we can do is something that makes it less deadly for people it's going to become the next flu that kills X people a year
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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And how much of this "five times faster spread" is actually because of all of the additional testing that is happening worldwide?

You know how many people are killed by the common cold every year? At least 60,000 here in the US alone.

Now look, I'm not saying covid19 is "the" common cold but it is a "cold virus" and it is going to spread like one. In other words, you can't hide from it. It is subject to too much cross contamination effects. Masks are not going to work so stop making everyone wear one. In many cases they may very well be contraindicated. Gloves properly put on and taken off make more sense but I don't see that happening.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
And how much of this "five times faster spread" is actually because of all of the additional testing that is happening worldwide?

You know how many people are killed by the common cold every year? At least 60,000 here in the US alone.

Now look, I'm not saying covid19 is "the" common cold but it is a "cold virus" and it is going to spread like one. In other words, you can't hide from it. It is subject to too much cross contamination effects. Masks are not going to work so stop making everyone wear one. In many cases they may very well be contraindicated. Gloves properly put on and taken off make more sense but I don't see that happening.
I don't know but they can test for this in a lab, which given the way the news has been handled may or may not be the source of this "information."

But all viruses mutate over time, and Corona Viruses are famous for doing it quickly and often.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
did this have "help"?

i want actual, complete, detailed proven info on this, not what someone claims to justify it. (it meaning that lockdown and well, everything else.)


it is not unreasonable to want and ask for data, despite the current calls of "WITCH" any time anyone does so.

About a month ago China Connection made a comment in one of the bigger covid threads that people were sick with a different strain of covid over there that was causing them to bleed from their eyes, IIRC. I don't know if there was follow up or not.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
Discussing the decision, Professor Nicola Spurrier, chief health officer for South Australia, said: “This particular strain has had certain characteristics. It has a very, very short incubation period.

"That means when somebody gets exposed, it is taking 24 hours or even less for that person to become infectious to others."
I am not sure if this was just bad journalism and/or they misquoted the health expert but the bold part above did not make sense. My understanding is that the incubation period is the period between exposure and development of symptoms, not the period between exposure and becoming infectious to others.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
So the common cold?


it really could be. after the scare tactic in the first part of that, that is kinda how it sounds, doesn't it?


it could be something much more, but again, we must have all the data. not just a select few, but all of us, all of it. i would want to know if it is much more than what it is now, but i don't want lies. lies of omission are still lies.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Short incubation period means it can spread faster in densely populated areas. But will die out quickly on the countryside.

It might be bad news for new York City and some Asian nations. Not gonna worry about this strain in my countryside.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
Gloves properly put on and taken off make more sense but I don't see that happening.

this poses quite the conundrum for many that are trying to push this, though.....doesn't it?


to PROPERLY use gloves, it will take a boatload for just one person. the logistics, training, implementation, practice, and cost will be outrageous.

even if all of that is done and goes ok, there is one little bit that really screws up so many other narratives.

the environmental cost. not that i am a global warming person, but to follow their own attempts to brainwash the masses would indicate that this is extremely counter intuitive to that narrative.

it poses a problem, no?
 

abby normal

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Hummmm.

So how many tranches of mutation has this virus undergone since it got loose in Wuhan, then northern Italy? For that matter to add to that question, besides virulence, what other changes in its effects have occurred through the various mutations?
Funny how the mutations fit the directive.

Georgia guide stones, agenda 21, etc... they want us all sick or dead. And to think, that stuff used to be considered conspiracy theory.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict the next big lockdown will be with regard to the germy money. Monetary reset coming soon, it fits the plan. Say goodbye to your filthy infected cash, and soon.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
Short incubation period means it can spread faster in densely populated areas. But will die out quickly on the countryside.

It might be bad news for new York City and some Asian nations. Not gonna worry about this strain in my countryside.
Yeah, the article implied that a short incubation period was bad but I think the opposite. A short incubation period is good because that means you show symptoms early so you have less time wandering around (not knowing you are infectious due to no symptoms) infecting others.

That has been one of the bad things with CV19, is that the incubation period can be long (up to 14 days.)
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
They should change the headlines to

New Strain of CCP Bioweapon released as part of the Chinese Communists war with Australia

There will be more coming from the CCP as needed because so far they've gotten off scott free for losing the Rona on the world

... not to mention all the rest of the percolating pestilences from around the world

Like the South American Chapare virus, that spreads human-to-human, with its Ebola-like bleeding and recently killed 3 out of 5 it infected from a single root case… but not to worry, because the “experts” say there is little chance of it spreading to North America

Deadly new Ebola-like disease emerges in Bolivia
 
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WalknTrot

Veteran Member
They should change the headlines to

New Strain of CCP Bioweapon released a part of the Chinese Communists war with Australia

There will be more coming from the CCP as needed because so far they've gotten off scott free for losing the Rona on the world

... not to mention all the rest of the percolating pestilences from around the world
It's most likely a natural mutation.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
They should change the headlines to

New Strain of CCP Bioweapon released a part of the Chinese Communists war with Australia

There will be more coming from the CCP as needed because so far they've gotten off scott free for losing the Rona on the world

... not to mention all the rest of the percolating pestilences from around the world

Like the South American Chapare virus, that spreads human-to-human, with its Ebola-like bleeding and recently killed 3 out of 5 it infected from a single root case… but not to worry, because the “experts” say there is little chance of it spreading to North America

Deadly new Ebola-like disease emerges in Bolivia
One of China's foreign policy goals is to separate Australia from the American Empire. This does not look like the way to do it.
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
It's most likely a natural mutation.
Given the CCP's past history, it is just as likely they've seeded another round into Australia as part of their expanded war to rule the Far East. It has worked great for them so far. They've shutdown their compitetion and so far they've suffered no blowback.

The following video was from the start of the COVID in the United States


Watch up to the :40 mark, whole thing 5:23 Min and rest is just fluff

They also seeded the Rona into Western Europe by flooding thousands of proably infecteds into Italy.
 

Thunderdog9

Member
Hi America,
Chiming in from Adelaide, South Australia. I am currently in the 'hot spot' suburb, next door to the actual 'hot spot' where the virus was first detected a few days ago. Total lockdown here. Fines apply if caught out. The entire joint went bananas yesterday with a rush on super-markets. Totally insane in my view. Projected 6 days but expecting much longer lockdown.
Anyway, you mob on TimeBomb are a treasure. Love dropping in to see the play in America with its skullduggery politics.
Kind regards,
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Whether it’s bad would depend on whether it still has the same “asymptomatic“ organ damage as theyve been seeing. Recall that they were seeing ground-glass lung images even in people without pneumonia and enlarged hearts in people without other cardiac symptoms.
I had "ground glass opacity" - words straight off the radiologist report - in a lung shot taken in passing when I got my shoulder CT scan last spring. I mentioned it to my family practice doc, (a GOOD doc), had him take a look at the pics, and he shrugged - said it's common and it will pass. He laughed at the emphysema word from the radiologist....he's known me a loooong time. As a retirement aged lady-type person, I have the lung capacity of a 20 year old 6'4" man. Nary a symptom except a slightly elevated temp for a few days, eye hemorrhage, loss of taste, (few days) and a sore lower belly. More or less weird timing and weird artifact. No lasting effects. In fact, no effects at all. BTW...I tested negative for Covid antibodies. Who knows.
 
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