EBOLA No New US Ebola Cases Until After November 5, 2014

[JohnGaltfla]

No New US Ebola Cases Until After November 5, 2014

by John Galt
October 21, 2014 22:00 ET

The new Obama Ebola Czar can start to prepare his victory respirator after he forced this headline to be posted yesterday (via YahooNews):

US cautiously optimistic after no new Ebola in 5 days


The key thing to remember is that just because Obama has ordered the new czar to adopt the WHO/Nigerian model of not reporting any new cases as Ebola but something else, it does not mean the disease has gone away nor that the outbreak is under control no matter how creative the headline writing or propaganda developers within the White House or United Nations.

The reality is that there are major political and economic considerations in nations like Nigeria and the United States to keep this outbreak silent for as long as possible. In Nigeria, the stakes are the inability to deal with their Islamist rebellion in addition to keeping any country’s oil tankers from being banned from visiting their terminals.
Meanwhile, the stakes in the United States are far more serious. The Obama administration is facing an electoral disaster on November 4th and the silencing of the Ebolambs is an absolute necessity. With the American equity markets gyrating like they were in 1987, 1998, and 2008 along with mounting criticism of the regime’s handling of the disease outbreak in the U.S. the only logical solution is to silence any news about new cases of Ebola inside the United States.

Thus the appointment of an “Ebola Czar” was nothing more than a true political action to provide the President with plausible deniability for the actions he might take. The first course of action is to change the discussion about banning travelers from West Africa and restricting the ability of people from the “hot zones” from entering our country at will by playing to the easiest political card to appeal to the minorities who are indicating they will not come out to vote and support Democrats during this off year election. The first bit of evidence came from the CNN Sunday afternoon news program “CNN Newsroom” hosted by Jim Sciutto(excerpted from the CNN transcript):

SCIUTTO: And it gets to a point we were just touching on, which is xenophobia and even racism, right? If a student from Nigeria, a country that frankly controlled this disease can not come to the U.S., that step becomes a real problem.

VAN TULLEKEN: I think (inaudible)…

DAVIS: No — but the — no, excuse me, just one second. The Nigerian student, I think we’re all fine with the Nigerian student but it is not xenophobic, it is not racist to say that from the actual global hot zone from Liberia, from Sierra Leone, from Guinea, we’re not going to let people in. Doctor, you’re right, nobody is walking around saying, “Well, that will take care of the risk. That will drop it to zero.”

But if we can (inaudible) just a little bit, I mean, Mr. Duncan came from there. Let’s not have anymore Mr. Duncans.

SCIUTTO: The fact is — Mark…

DAVIS: So please, no more xenophobia talk. We all know that…

SCIUTTO: The fact is though Mark, Nigeria is not…

DAVIS: … and the risk

SCIUTTO: Well, Nigeria is not the hot zone anymore because it has…

DAVIS: Right.

SCIUTTO: …its eliminated it’s cases in it’s past, the windows with the U.S. The U.S. is not…

DAVIS: Yeah, we’re not talking about Nigeria. We’re not talking about Nigeria…

SCIUTTO: But that’s — isn’t that the problem?

DAVIS: It is neither racist nor xenophobic. Jim, you talk about Liberia…

SCIUTTO: But it is.

DAVIS: … where it is on fire.

SCIUTTO: It is.

DAVIS: It is not racist, it is not xenophobic.

SCIUTTO: But the fact that is it is xenophobic and possibly racist that if you’re connecting this and banning someone from a country just because it happens to be in Africa, where in fact, there are no cases of the disease today…

DAVIS: No, we’re fine with Nigeria.

SCIUTTO: … then that’s a real danger if that within communities and then you hear choices like this.

VAN TULLEKEN: No one is talking about banning travel from Nigeria.

SCIUTTO: Well, no but I’m bringing it up because in fact as one of the reactions to this disease in this country, a child from Nigeria was ban from his school that, you know, that’s a real effect of what’s happening here.

DAVIS: That’s fine — That’s crazy. That’s certainly crazy, obviously. But the travel ban from Liberia is sensible and it should be done tomorrow.
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In other words if anyone opposes allowing individuals from nations which may or may not propagate the spread of Ebola then one is automatically Xenophobic or racist! This is the prototypical Democratic Party line used by the Obama administration to stimulate the base and agitate voters to act instead of taking the election off.

(via the National Archives)

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When one takes into consideration the dangers of reporting new infections across the nation to not just the election but the economy, then it becomes obvious that not only the government but the Federal Reserve banking system has a very deep interest in containing not the actual outbreak but the reporting of new Ebola cases. In just over four weeks, the Christmas shopping season begins with over $619 billion in projected sales expected; a 4% increase over last year. It is not only the retail season at risk however; in combination with holiday travel and the peak of the sports season during the Thanksgiving through the Christmas and New Years holiday period, well over a trillion dollars of economic expenditures is at risk.

If the Ebola outbreak becomes widespread and reported around the country, the malls will be empty as well as movie theaters, airplanes, highways, and hotels around the country from the week of Thanksgiving on. Thus it is only logical, not extreme, to assume that the government, working with the financial, retail, and transportation industries, will do everything in their power to silence the news of Ebola and divert the short term thinking of the average American into new series of global and domestic distractions.

Imagine the power of a government using its Executive Office authority to distort and deny the spread of such a disease. In fact some conspiracy theories which have a basis in fact indicate that the Wilson Administration in 1918 sought to cover up the existence of the Spanish Flu epidemic to prevent harming the war effort in Europe. Sadly, the truth is that the outbreak was so severe, it would appear that the medical community’s inability to understand how that killer disease of the 1918-1920 era spread so rapidly like Ebola has the potential to do so today. From the Concord Review, The Great Influenza Epidemic of 1918, by Jennifer Hsiao (2003):

There was a severe shortage of medical personnel. Many nurses and doctors were away assisting the military. Flu patients overflowed the hospitals and emergency hospitals were set up in state armories, parish houses, auditoriums, gymnasiums, dance halls, county jails, and hayracks. Hospitals could be equated to death houses at times; in Boston, for instance, the hospital death rate rose to an awful 50 percent. The rapid increase of hospital facilities exacerbated the shortage of medical personnel. Nurses and doctors were overworked and tired. Authorities began asking for “any person with two hands and willingness to work.”

Few doctors were fully certified; many who were helping to combat the flu were without much training—medical students abruptly assumed the responsibilities of trained doctors. The Red Cross employed the aid of the trained and the untrained. Since doctors and nurses were frequently exposed to the disease, they often became sick themselves and, as Crosby states, “became problems instead of problem solvers.”

Many medical mistakes were made. Physicians were so busy and tired that most cases of flu were not reported. Doctors who were exhausted and sick often signed death certificates without ever seeing the actual bodies. Sometimes, people who were barely alive were thought to be dead, resulting in several cases of people being buried alive.
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Think it can’t and won’t happen in this era with the Federal Government under the auspices of the Department of Homeland Security, HHS, and FEMA? Think again. The government, under the authority of the DHS act and FEMA emergency declarations has the ability to arrest and imprison any medical personnel who violate their mandates regarding reporting of a disease outbreak which might endanger the public. Thus the ability to keep the silence now becomes not just a “workplace requirement” for doctors and nurses, but a risk to their very freedom.

With the Obama administration’s long track record of imprisoning or threatening journalists, soldiers, and whistle-blowers along intimidating its enemies using the FBI, DHS, and IRS, it is little wonder that the United States has had five days without any new Ebola cases reported. I would not expect anything until after November 5th if then; and look for the sudden bouts of illness to be reported as seasonal flu or a new type of pneumonia, not the pandemic threatening our nation now. Of course once Obama’s allies have received their financial rewards and Obama’s minions and agents paid in accordance, there is no reason not expect a sudden “surge” in Ebola cases to justify further restrictions on American citizen’s freedoms.

After all, that’s what Woodrow Wilson or FDR would do.

 

[dstraito]

Wait for it, they're coming

 

[Fetz]

Well, it IS what we expected. What a bunch of political BS.

 

[IdahoMom]

He obviously wouldn't have appointed an Ebola Czar if this was over..Yes, we are being "managed". Great article John!

 

[Mulder]

I wish that I could say that any of this comes as a surprise.

 

[AR15ER]

The ebola czar is just an information control job, and a make the zero look good job. Others have the job of trying to import as many infected people as they can.

 

[Countrymouse]

John, thank you for what you do.

Your unwavering courage in reporting the truth is a blessing and will--hopefully---lead to the awakening of many and the saving of lives by getting the truth out there.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

The ebola czar is just an information control job, and a make the zero look good job. Others have the job of trying to import as many infected people as they can.

And cover it up so it looks like it is a "natural" event....

 

[nadhob]

Well, it IS what we expected. What a bunch of political BS.

New spin on an old policy....Don't ask....Don't tell...

 

[knepper]

Absolutely predictable--that's why he was put there. If only the low infos could understand that by suppressing information about the spread of Ebola until after the election, the Evil O and his minions are actually encouraging the spread of the deadly disease. Would it make a difference to them?

 

[FROG]

New spin on an old policy....Don't ask....Don't tell...

I see what you did there.

 

[FROG]

No New US Ebola Cases Until After November 5, 2014

The reality is that there are major political and economic considerations in nations like Nigeria and the United States to keep this outbreak silent for as long as possible. In Nigeria, the stakes are the inability to deal with their Islamist rebellion in addition to keeping any country’s oil tankers from being banned from visiting their terminals.

I did not think about the oil tankers. Wouldn't they have become a vector before now?

 

[Sacajawea]

Not just oil - end of August, first of October - there was the Liberian flagged ship that wanted to dock in NOLA (forget the exact name) - with 15 sick crew members and a sick river pilot. We did NOT ever learn what they had, nor whether they have recovered or what. They simply were taken off the ship and disappeared into the HIPAA-zone.

The ship was there to pick up frozen poultry and stopped in the Caribbean, to resupply and probably - decontaminate the ship.

 

[FROG]

Not just oil - end of August, first of October - there was the Liberian flagged ship that wanted to dock in NOLA (forget the exact name) - with 15 sick crew members and a sick river pilot. We did NOT ever learn what they had, nor whether they have recovered or what. They simply were taken off the ship and disappeared into the HIPAA-zone.

The ship was there to pick up frozen poultry and stopped in the Caribbean, to resupply and probably - decontaminate the ship.

I forgot about that!

 

[Adino]

so...i'm curious....is there anything at all prez obola and his fellow oligarchy toadies won't throw the 'racist' card at?

why do they think the race card even has clout anymore?

isn't it racist to use blacks from africa to wipe out whites, asians, and latinos in n. america?

 

[mecoastie]

Not just oil - end of August, first of October - there was the Liberian flagged ship that wanted to dock in NOLA (forget the exact name) - with 15 sick crew members and a sick river pilot. We did NOT ever learn what they had, nor whether they have recovered or what. They simply were taken off the ship and disappeared into the HIPAA-zone.

The ship was there to pick up frozen poultry and stopped in the Caribbean, to resupply and probably - decontaminate the ship.

Liberia is a huge flag of convienence. They probably have the largest merchant fleet in the world because it is very easy to register a ship there. Most of the ships that are flagged there never go anywhere near Liberia. They have an office in NYC and other cities where companies can go to register ships so you wouldnt even have to go to Liberia. If the river pilot was sick than it most likely isnt Ebola. THose pilots board in the Gulf and then guide the ship up to the dock. Probably only on board for 8-10 hours. Unless it is a whole new strain they wouldnt be symptomatic that quickly.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

so...i'm curious....is there anything at all prez obola and his fellow oligarchy toadies won't throw the 'racist' card at?

why do they think the race card even has clout anymore?

isn't it racist to use blacks from africa to wipe out whites, asians, and latinos in n. america?

Collateral damage. They could care less how many sheeple get killed, they just want to thin the heard. It's about economics, not race.

 

[Doomer Doug]

John, I have long said there is a difference between what the elite intend and what they can actually do.

Obviously, Obama et al have mandated a political response to what is really a public health issue. In that sense, of dealing with health issues, the political response will ultimately fail.

The key thing is one of timing in my opinion. It is "their" intention to keep the lid on until after the November elections for both economic and political reasons. What they have not factored in is the medical situation with Ebola is on a medial timeline and not a political one.

We know the RO of Ebola infected people is two. We know this means it is likely the second nurse infected two other people at some point flying to and from Cleveland, as well as in Cleveland itself. The powers that be have no control over who, when or where those two people will show up. They may try to suppress that information, but even that is iffy at this point. The Obama has made a critical error in political judgment because they don't realize if these people are infected, and if the info is held till November 7th or so, the political and economic damage will be more severe than if they told the truth about it when it happened.

Moral authority is a very precious commodity the CDC and Obama have been squandering recently. I am saying that in trying to prevent political and economic damage before the election both Obama and the CDC will increase it after the election.

It is the classic case of "not on my shift" syndrome I saw when I worked security. As long as somebody else has to deal with it, the person dealing with it right now will try to not deal with it.

John, the level of political and economic damage done if they announce the second nurse infected people before the elections is nothing compared to the damage if they wait to announce it, are seen to have done so. At that point, both Obama and the CDC will be widely, and correctly, viewed as playing politics with Ebola. The result of that perception among the American people will effectively END any ability of the CDC to be taken seriously, much less Obama. Once that happens we will see that old scene in the ship foundering movies. the one showing the wheel spinning wildly with no helmsman.

Obama and the CDC will have morphed a short term political problem into a genuine system wide crisis of confidence by the American people.

 

[Berean]

Whole heartedly agree with the OP. Just a couple of weeks and we'll know for sure.

 

[AR15ER]

Actually DD, I believe it will be interesting to see if "they" can keep a lid on more case showing up before the elections. Remember the Dr that showed up at the airport in full hazmat? If someone like him gets a hold of info about someone with it, and can prove it, Katie bar the door!

John, I have long said there is a difference between what the elite intend and what they can actually do.

Obviously, Obama et al have mandated a political response to what is really a public health issue. In that sense, of dealing with health issues, the political response will ultimately fail.

The key thing is one of timing in my opinion. It is "their" intention to keep the lid on until after the November elections for both economic and political reasons. What they have not factored in is the medical situation with Ebola is on a medial timeline and not a political one.

We know the RO of Ebola infected people is two. We know this means it is likely the second nurse infected two other people at some point flying to and from Cleveland, as well as in Cleveland itself. The powers that be have no control over who, when or where those two people will show up. They may try to suppress that information, but even that is iffy at this point. The Obama has made a critical error in political judgment because they don't realize if these people are infected, and if the info is held till November 7th or so, the political and economic damage will be more severe than if they told the truth about it when it happened.

Moral authority is a very precious commodity the CDC and Obama have been squandering recently. I am saying that in trying to prevent political and economic damage before the election both Obama and the CDC will increase it after the election.

It is the classic case of "not on my shift" syndrome I saw when I worked security. As long as somebody else has to deal with it, the person dealing with it right now will try to not deal with it.

John, the level of political and economic damage done if they announce the second nurse infected people before the elections is nothing compared to the damage if they wait to announce it, are seen to have done so. At that point, both Obama and the CDC will be widely, and correctly, viewed as playing politics with Ebola. The result of that perception among the American people will effectively END any ability of the CDC to be taken seriously, much less Obama. Once that happens we will see that old scene in the ship foundering movies. the one showing the wheel spinning wildly with no helmsman.

Obama and the CDC will have morphed a short term political problem into a genuine system wide crisis of confidence by the American people.

 

[Adino]

Collateral damage. They could care less how many sheeple get killed, they just want to thin the heard. It's about economics, not race.

yeah global thinning. and i'm glad to share that soapbox w/ you

some folks think i'm nutz but we know we're not

 

[2x2]

Looks like both nurses are going to be OK. I just copied the short paragraph about the 2 nurses.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/22/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKCN0IB1KU20141022

Quote; "Liberian Thomas Eric Duncan, who died on Oct. 8 and nurses Nina Pham and Amber Vinson of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, are the only cases detected in the country. Pham's condition was last upgraded on Tuesday to good from fair at a hospital in Bethesda, Maryland.

Vinson's family said in a statement Wednesday that officials at the CDC and Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, where she is being treated, "are no longer able to detect virus in her body."

 

[Countrymouse]

I did not think about the oil tankers. Wouldn't they have become a vector before now?

maybe they have.

We don't know what we don't know.


John, thank you again for a great article. I particularly LOVE this line:

" the silencing of the Ebolambs"

 

[Countrymouse]

Looks like both nurses are going to be OK. I just copied the short paragraph about the 2 nurses.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/22/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKCN0IB1KU20141022

Quote; "Liberian Thomas Eric Duncan, who died on Oct. 8 and nurses Nina Pham and Amber Vinson of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, are the only cases detected in the country. Pham's condition was last upgraded on Tuesday to good from fair at a hospital in Bethesda, Maryland.

Vinson's family said in a statement Wednesday that officials at the CDC and Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, where she is being treated, "are no longer able to detect virus in her body."

If they can't "detect virus in her body", then they must be looking for it with a magnifying glass.

EVERY single report I've read about ebola states that--even AFTER RECOVERY---it stays in body fluids UP TO 90 DAYS.

Some studies have suggested it stays even longer.


This is a BLATANT LIE from the CDC.

 

[BREWER]

Greetings, John: Great article. Thanks for writing it. All too true. Take care. BREWER

 

[2x2]

If they can't "detect virus in her body", then they must be looking for it with a magnifying glass.

EVERY single report I've read about ebola states that--even AFTER RECOVERY---it stays in body fluids UP TO 90 DAYS.

Some studies have suggested it stays even longer.


This is a BLATANT LIE from the CDC.

I don't think women generate semen; however YMMV.

 

[Countrymouse]

I don't think women generate semen; however YMMV.

"Body fluids" mean ANY body FLUID---sweat, tears, saliva, vaginal secretions, and BLOOD---not just semen.

And my concern is NOT that she may infect a sex partner--though she may.

I am wondering whether it actually WAS the CDC that said "there is no virus present in her body."

If so, that is a blatant LIE.

It goes against every study and report WHO and CDC have released on the matter.

I can look them up and give you some links if you'd like (I've been keeping a file of their reports and studies ever since I discovered the CDC has been scrubbing their own links).

 

[2x2]

"Body fluids" mean ANY body FLUID---sweat, tears, saliva, vaginal secretions, and BLOOD---not just semen.

And my concern is NOT that she may infect a sex partner--though she may.

I am wondering whether it actually WAS the CDC that said "there is no virus present in her body."

If so, that is a blatant LIE.

It goes against every study and report WHO and CDC have released on the matter.

I can look them up and give you some links if you'd like (I've been keeping a file of their reports and studies ever since I discovered the CDC has been scrubbing their own links).

So when is a patient released???

 

[blueridge]

So sayeth the Ministry of Truth.


Who do these f'ers think they're kidding???

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Just like someone can become ill and the virus show up in the blood test in "typically" 2-21 days there are always "outliers" at the edge of the graph that don't show-up infected and ill until 22-42 days out...or even a bit further. Keep in mind also the blood is the bodily flood that tends to be the MOST packed with virus during the worst of the outbreak with other bodily fluids being less packed with virus. On the other hand, certain other bodily fluids including semen in men and breast milk in women, which are NOT normally tested except for ongoing research purposes, have been shown to sometimes still contain traces of the virus for up to 91 days.

Likewise, the person can recover within similar periods of time (a few days to 42 days or longer), at which point the virus then ends up not being detectable in the blood test for 2-3 days in a row and the person is then declared to be "free from Ebola". From what we have seen with the other US Ebola cases recovery, they then do caution the men and women of these additional time frames of the potential for the virus presence in these other bodily fluids.

The bottom line is that the BLOOD TEST can turn clear ANYTIME during the illness/recovery. There is nothing saying it always takes X number of days. It works just like the incubation time in that it is a "typical RANGE of days" that they have observed that the TYPICAL case requires to resolve. A good recent example is that the "unnamed doctor" who was just released was in Emory for about 6 weeks or so until he was clear of the virus in the blood test. Brantly was in Emory for only about 3 weeks until he showed clear of the virus.

 

[Countrymouse]

So when is a patient released???

I'm sorry if I'm confusing you.

Ebola is not like other infections, where being "healed" means the infection has been eradicated from the body.

I believe (those with more medical experience here, please chime in) that a patient is declared "healed" of ebola when their body stabilizes, meaning their fever is gone, they are no longer vomiting or "toileting" (as they put it in west Africa), their electrolye and other blood chemical balances return to normal, their liver and kidney function return to normal, and their soft-tissue organs (intestines, lungs) which may have reaching varying levels of dissolution, are healed and functioning again.

It does NOT mean they don't still have the virus -- in reduced numbers--- still floating around in their blood, and consequently in ALL OTHER body fluids.

So--from what I've read---it can take up to 90 days -- or more-- for the last virus particles themselves to be eradicated from the blood.

I'll go find some of the info I have on that---it's from past ebola threads here--and post it again.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

I'm sorry if I'm confusing you.

Ebola is not like other infections, where being "healed" means the infection has been eradicated from the body.

I believe (those with more medical experience here, please chime in) that a patient is declared "healed" of ebola when their body stabilizes, meaning their fever is gone, they are no longer vomiting or "toileting" (as they put it in west Africa), their electrolye and other blood chemical balances return to normal, their liver and kidney function return to normal, and their soft-tissue organs (intestines, lungs) which may have reaching varying levels of dissolution, are healed and functioning again.

It does NOT mean they don't still have the virus -- in reduced numbers--- still floating around in their blood, and consequently in ALL OTHER body fluids.

So--from what I've read---it can take up to 90 days -- or more-- for the last virus particles themselves to be eradicated from the blood.

I'll go find some of the info I have on that---it's from past ebola threads here--and post it again.

See my post above. The standard for declaring a person "cured" is 2-3 consecutive days of the BLOOD test for Ebola to show up clear of the virus. Assuming they are then also feeling strong enough to function on their own from what the disease did to them during the course of the disease, they are then released as long as they have had consecutive days of virus free blood tests.


ETA: During the course of the disease, during normal treatment ONLY the BLOOD is ever tested. They do NOT typically test ANY of the "other bodily fluids". ALL examples of even knowing how long those "other bodily fluids" retain the virus has been from subsequent, specific, very limited, follow-up research on previous Ebola patients. You can read all about it in the final reports on the WHO Web site of the previous 20 Ebola Outbreaks. That is one of the reasons that those reports are usually not released until 1 to 2 years after those outbreaks had run their course. They did follow-up and test such things specifically on a handful of patients which is how they came up with these potential and average durations to begin with.


They have a lot of evidence that the BLOOD is the best indicator of the disease and the potential for infecting others. It is the bodily fluid MOST packed with the virus compared to all other bodily fluids. Running closely behind blood are vomit and diarrhea / stool in terms of the amount of virus and potential to infect. It then drops off rapidly when they look at saliva, semen, breast milk, sweat, etc. as potential carriers of the virus. These fluids CAN be carriers but they are not as packed with the virus and in some cases it doesn't even show up in these fluids. But since they have found it on a few occasions in these other "lesser" fluids they have to at least mention that it is "possible". Which is where we get back to "possible" vs. "probable". If they do find it in these fluids 1 or 2 times out of a hundred then they have to note that it is possible. But it is not highly probably.


And keep in mind we're talking CURED patients here. NOT someone who has just DIED of Ebola and the body and most of these fluids are indeed packed with virus.

 

[Countrymouse]

Here is the information from WHO (World Health Organization) on how long a person with Ebola still carries the virus in their system and it is still transmissible to others:

Ebola then spreads through human-to-human transmission via direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and with surfaces and materials (e.g. bedding, clothing) contaminated with these fluids.

Health-care workers have frequently been infected while treating patients with suspected or confirmed EVD. This has occurred through close contact with patients when infection control precautions are not strictly practiced.

Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola.

People remain infectious as long as their blood and body fluids, including semen and breast milk, contain the virus. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

And this is a prime example of needing to understand the back story on these "facts" and why it is so easy to get confused.

You will see this "7 weeks" number quoted. The back story is that they actually had one documented case of a man infecting a woman 49 days (7 weeks) after the blood test showed no more Ebola. The only vector they could attribute the infection to was the sex act. The other back story is that subsequent research specifically into this vector found an example of a man whose semen still tested positive for Ebola for as long as 91 days. These two numbers made it into the various reports and need to be understood for what they are:

1. 49 days (7 weeks) is the maximum number of days that they believe they observed Ebola being actually transmitted by semen and causing a woman to become infected. (no other possible vectors could be identified other than the semen). This was ONE single case.

2. 91 days is the maximum number of days they found, specifically in ONE case out of several tested, where Ebola remained detectable in the semen. No one was infected at this late date by this person but they must assume that someone possibly could have been infected since the Ebola virus was still present. It was NOT present on day 92.

 

[Ben Sunday]

I believe that Doomer Doug has an entirely provocative point of view here - and one that may easily come to fruition in the days immediately following the election.

The entire D.C. tribe is engaged in covering their arses.

imho

 

[JohnGaltfla]

Obama and the CDC will have morphed a short term political problem into a genuine system wide crisis of confidence by the American people.

DD, the problem is that these idiots are playing with a true global disaster which could realistically reduce GDP by over 30% and kill tens of millions of Americans in addition to north of a billion people world wide. It would forever alter the landscape politically on a global scale and worse, might indeed turn China in the only remaining superpower, militarily and economically.

 

[ainitfunny]

THEY ACTUALLY TEST ONLY 10% of the patients with Ebola symptoms who traveled from W Africa recently.

 

[Doomer Doug]

Kris, my understanding is the nurses were infected around October 15. They now fall into the 3 week quarantine period ending on November 7th. So, I am wondering why they are declaring themselves "virus free" with two weeks left to go. I am also wondering why the statement came from the family, and not the hospital or the CDC.

John, you are giving Obama too much credit.<G> He is in short term, today and this week spin control mode. The government and CDC are only thinking now in the election time frame up to November 5th. Whatever happens after that is simply not on their radar at all. The spin control mindset means they will deal with what happens after the 5th when it happens. Obama and the CDC are TOTALLY focused on a political response which will minimize election losses.

Until November 7th gets here, and the three week quarantine is passed without Ebola infection any comments about her being virus free are premature and dictated as part of a political response. If "they" said she was infected a tidal wave a fecal material would flow. They get the family, not the CDC or the hospital, to say she is okay when they won't know that for another two weeks.

The entire statement is spin control with the purpose of minimizing election losses for the Democrats.

The status of the Duncan family is another example of spin control in my opinion. The fact they haven't been trotted out for a press conference is leading to wild speculation which the CDC could deal with quickly.

 

[Richard]

when are they going to stop this racist xenophobic argument, look the race of the population of stricken African countries is not in any way relevant to the situation

is he arguing that we should not apply restrictions to visitors from Ebola infested countries simply because they are of a different race to the countries which said individuals may visit

 

[Sleeping Cobra]

THEY ACTUALLY TEST ONLY 10% of the patients with Ebola symptoms who traveled from W Africa recently.

Well now it seems you don't have to come from West Africa to contract Ebola. Just be out in public in the United States.