VIDEO New York Governor Kathy Hochul will deploy National Guard troops to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers in hospitals, who will be fired tonight

jward

jward

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Sorry for video as an originating OP- here's an article from earlier today on the issue:

New York may tap National Guard to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers
September 27, 20218:57 AM CDT Last Updated 8 hours ago​

Sept 26 (Reuters) - New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering employing the National Guard and out-of-state medical workers to fill hospital staffing shortages with tens of thousands of workers possibly losing their jobs for not meeting a Monday deadline for mandated COVID-19 vaccination.
The plan, outlined in a statement from Hochul on Saturday, would allow her to declare a state of emergency to increase the supply of healthcare workers to include licensed professionals from other states and countries as well as retired nurses.
Hochul said the state was also looking at using National Guard officers with medical training to keep hospitals and other medical facilities adequately staffed. Some 16% of the state's 450,000 hospital staff, or roughly 72,000 workers, have not been fully vaccinated, the governor's office said.
The plan comes amid a broader battle between state and federal government leaders pushing for vaccine mandates to help counter the highly infectious Delta variant of the novel coronavirus and workers who are against inoculation requirements, some objecting on religious grounds.

Hochul attended the Sunday service at a large church in New York City to ask Christians to help promote vaccines.
"I need you to be my apostles. I need you to go out and talk about it and say, we owe this to each other," Hochul told congregants at the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, according to an official transcript.
"Jesus taught us to love one another and how do you show that love but to care about each other enough to say, please get the vaccine because I love you and I want you to live."
Healthcare workers who are fired for refusing to get vaccinated will not be eligible for unemployment insurance unless they are able to provide a valid doctor-approved request for medical accommodation, Hochul's office said.
A nurse receives a vaccination at Mt. Sinai Hospital during the COVID-19 pandemic in New York, U.S., December 15, 2020. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri
It was not immediately clear how pending legal cases concerning religious exemptions would apply to the state's plan to move ahead and terminate unvaccinated healthcare workers.
A federal judge in Albany temporarily ordered New York state officials to allow religious exemptions for the state-imposed vaccine mandate on healthcare workers, which was put in place by former Governor Andrew Cuomo and takes effect on Monday.

A requirement for New York City school teachers and staff to get vaccinated was temporarily blocked by a U.S. appeals court just days before it was to take effect. A hearing is set for Wednesday.
The highly transmissible Delta variant has driven a surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in the United States that peaked in early September and has since fallen, according to a Reuters tally. Deaths, a lagging indicator, continue to rise with the nation reporting about 2,000 lives lost on average a day for the past week, mostly in the unvaccinated.
While nationally cases are down about 25% from their autumn peak, rising new infections in New York have only recently leveled off, according to a Reuters tally.
In an attempt to better protect the most vulnerable, the CDC on Friday backed a booster shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech (PFE.N), COVID-19 vaccine for Americans aged 65 and older, adults with underlying medical conditions and adults in high-risk working and institutional settings.
On Sunday, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky fleshed out who should be eligible for the booster shots based on their work in high-risk settings.

"That includes people in homeless shelters, people in group homes, people in prisons, but also importantly, our people who work...with vulnerable communities," Walensky said during a TV interview. "So our health care workers, our teachers, our grocery workers, our public transportation employees."
Walensky decided to include a broader range of people than was recommended on Thursday by a group of expert outside advisers to the agency. The CDC director is not obliged to follow the advice of the panel.
Reporting by Nathan Layne in Wilton, Connecticut and Mike Stone in Washington; Editing by Lisa Shumaker
Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.
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New York may tap National Guard to replace unvaccinated healthcare workers

New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering employing the National Guard and out-of-state medical workers to fill hospital staffing shortages with tens of thousands of workers possibly losing their jobs for not meeting a Monday deadline for mandated COVID-19 vaccination.
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Walrus

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It's hard not to notice the term "my apostles" instead of "His apostles".

This gal is giving Whitmer a run for her money. The law firms in NY must've egged her on; they can see the billions they're going to be raking up in fees and settlements.

The irony is that all those "out-of-state nurses" they're going to use to backfill are out of their jobs because they were fired for being unvaxxed. So segue to special visas and they'll discover that the available nurses are all from India and they're unvaxxed as well. :boohoo:
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Good questions, all. We saw figures for military somewhere on site, earlier, that had 30-40% of enlisted not being "vaxed"
.. the chutzpah is breathtaking in that state.. They must feel immune to repercussions for actions, or as though they've nothing left to lose at this point. Guess time will tell eh.

Macgyver said:
How many medically trained guard members are there in NY?
And how does using the guard solve anything? These guys are probably already in the field.
How many of the guard are not vaxed?
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Hfcomms

Hfcomms

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Old Gray Mare said:
National Guard? Oh this will work well? Somehow I doubt best and standard practices for a military unit are the same for a civilian hospital.
:popcorn1:
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The national guard has it's own doctors, nurses and medics but it doesn't solve anything. These people are also employed in the civilian industry in a hospital/clinic setting. So if they activate the guard they are robbing Peter to pay Paul and it solves nothing except makes more problems for their current employers.
 
Mprepared

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Macgyver said:
How many medically trained guard members are there in NY?
And how does using the guard solve anything? These guys are probably already in the field.
How many of the guard are not vaxed?
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No idea, but it is going to be in every state. Idaho just in town where I live have over 100 military medical workers helping and they were only going to be here a month. I think another 2 weeks left. I heard they are not only short of doctors, nurses, but also cleaning staff and they cannot keep the cafeteria running, but they got what they wanted, only vaxed work there.
 
ainitfunny

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Wow.and they dont have to pay them what they were paying the nurses, doctors, & PA's. The National Guard pays them a tenth of what the nurse or doctor was getting.
It is a windfall of money for the hospitals.
How long can they run this scam?
 
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Old Gray Mare

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Hfcomms said:
The national guard has it's own doctors, nurses and medics but it doesn't solve anything. These people are also employed in the civilian industry in a hospital/clinic setting. So if they activate the guard they are robbing Peter to pay Paul and it solves nothing except makes more problems for their current employers.
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At least they can't be deployed if there is a dust up somewhere the administration decides to "police".
 
Intestinal Fortitude

Intestinal Fortitude

Have Faith
Mprepared said:
No idea, but it is going to be in every state. Idaho just in town where I live have over 100 military medical workers helping and they were only going to be here a month. I think another 2 weeks left. I heard they are not only short of doctors, nurses, but also cleaning staff and they cannot keep the cafeteria running, but they got what they wanted, only vaxed work there.
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and people who have very good paperwork........:cool:
 
jward

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Coco82919

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When the 1990 war against Sadam Hussain occurred. 25 percent of our Doctors and nurses left for Saudi Arabia. My head nurses husband was a financial advisor for many of the Doctors. He said if they were gone for a few months most would be bankrupted. The salary they were making as national guard was ridiculously low compared to their private practice. He said most spent everything they made a month and owed lots on there cars and homes. Many were still paying off school loans but living the high life.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Interesting to see how that is resolved; probably fairly easily with the state of emergency powers/declaration; but it's "only" the law, that shouldn't be any real barrier to them eh : (

Publius said:
She cannot fire people that are not state employees this is private sector and off limits as far as firing them go's.
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Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Coco82919 said:
When the 1990 war against Sadam Hussain occurred. 25 percent of our Doctors and nurses left for Saudi Arabia. My head nurses husband was a financial advisor for many of the Doctors. He said if they were gone for a few months most would be bankrupted. The salary they were making as national guard was ridiculously low compared to their private practice. He said most spent everything they made a month and owed lots on there cars and homes. Many were still paying off school loans but living the high life.
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its that Kountry Klub Life Style many of them - or they AND the wife - just gotta have. there are a shit TON of people that DO NOT REALIZE when you live at a certain address you are quite literally KOMPELLED to drive the right kars, wear the right designer labels, eat at the right restaurants, be a member of the right country club(s), go to the right kind of galas and appear with the right people . . . the price tag can be E N O R M O U S.

there were 5 of us - only ONE of us chose to live well below his harvest. only one of us retired at 55. the rest of us are still werking - and - they are miserable -
to the man

the rewards and the pleasures of a simple life are not readily seen by a great many people. I preached it to both of my kids. my son got the message - my daughter - not so much. the EX had more of an influence on her than I did

Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man - Live At The Florida Theater (7:13)

the EX's (aka the Kuntry Klub Kween) theme song - she inspired the Eagles to write this tune

The Eagles - Just too busy being fabulous Official Video (4:27)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlof08Qnu9g

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I came home to an empty house
And I found your little note
"Don't wait up for me tonight"
And that was all she wrote

Do you think I don't know that you're out on the town
With all of your high-rollin' friends?
What do you do when you come up empty?
Where do you go when the party ends?

And you were just too busy being fabulous
Too busy to think about us
I don't know what you were dreaming of
Somehow you forgot about love
And you were just too busy being fabulous, uh-huh

A little time in the country
A day or two to slow down
A bottle of wine and a walk in the moonlight
Maybe some foolin' around

But you think time is just a magazine
And money's just a thrill
I've waited so long for you to change your way of livin'
Now I realize that you never will

'Cause you were just too busy being fabulous
Too busy to think about us
Lookin' for something you'll never find
You'll never know what you left behind

'Cause you were just too busy being fabulous, uh-huh
You tell a joke and everybody's laughin'
That's something you know how to do
You've always been the life of the party
But now my baby, the joke is on you

'Cause you were just too busy being fabulous
Too busy to think about us
Running after something that never comes
What in the world are you runnin' from?

And you were just too busy being fabulous
Too busy to think about us
To drink the wine from your winner's cup
To notice the children were growin' up
And you were just too busy being fabulous
Too busy, too busy
Too busy
Aw, baby



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MinnesotaSmith

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Walrus said:
It's hard not to notice the term "my apostles" instead of "His apostles".

This gal is giving Whitmer a run for her money. The law firms in NY must've egged her on; they can see the billions they're going to be raking up in fees and settlements.

The irony is that all those "out-of-state nurses" they're going to use to backfill are out of their jobs because they were fired for being unvaxxed. So segue to special visas and they'll discover that the available nurses are all from India and they're unvaxxed as well. :boohoo:
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Alternative very possible outcomes:

1) The Indian (call center not casino ones) will be much more likely than U.S. nurses to have fake fauxine paperwork;
2) They will likely have had (if any) fauxines that the U.S. does not recognize as valid.

That goes beyond their likely having had the coof, and being immune to it now (so don't need Chinavirus fauxines by any reasonable logic), with no longterm ill health issues, since India actually has superior care for it than does the U.S., making widespread use of harmless invermectin, as opposed to wringing hands/killing them on ventilators.
 
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vestige

Deceased
jward said:
Except, as always, it'll be the most innocent and powerless who bleed, cry and die due the implosion of HC services in their areas because some coalition of rat bastards want to fight a cowards war against civilians... : ((
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Rat bastards.

Good term.

I like you more as years pass by
 
Esto Perpetua

Esto Perpetua

Veteran Member
Walrus said:
It's hard not to notice the term "my apostles" instead of "His apostles".

This gal is giving Whitmer a run for her money. The law firms in NY must've egged her on; they can see the billions they're going to be raking up in fees and settlements.

The irony is that all those "out-of-state nurses" they're going to use to backfill are out of their jobs because they were fired for being unvaxxed. So segue to special visas and they'll discover that the available nurses are all from India and they're unvaxxed as well. :boohoo:
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Megalomania. That's the word I was looking for.
 
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