POL New Poll Shows 45% of Queer Men Backing Trump

jward

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Though Most LGBTQs Vote Democratic, New Poll Shows 45% of Queer Men Backing Trump
By Daniel Villarreal On 9/15/20 at 12:21 AM EDT
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A recent survey of 1,200 queer men in the United States found that 45 percent planned on voting for Republican President Donald Trump. Comparatively, 51 percent said they would vote for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
The poll's results fall very close to recent national polling showing 50 percent of voters supporting Biden and 43 percent supporting Trump.
The poll, conducted by the queer men's social app Hornet, actually asked 10,000 of its users worldwide about their preferred presidential candidate. But while 66 percent of worldwide users supported Biden and 34 percent supported Trump, the percentages among U.S. men were much closer.
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Of the 1,200 men living in the United States, 49 percent said that they do not support Trump at all and 11 percent said they disagree with him on most issues. Nine percent said they agree with Trump on some issues and disagree with him on others. Only 27 percent of U.S.-based respondents said they either mostly or fully supported Trump.
However, 10 percent of the U.S. men who said they "do not support [Trump] at all" said that they will vote for him regardless.
When user responses were broken out continentally, the majority of queer men on every continent supported Biden more than Trump by margins of 54 to 25 percent.


Hornet users in every country, except for two, also supported Biden over Trump. The only two countries to do otherwise were Taiwan, where 47 percent supported Biden and 51 percent supported Trump, and Russia, where 38 percent supported Biden and 58 percent supported Trump.
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Supporters hold up a rainbow pride flag for then-Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on October 18, 2016 in Grand Junction Colorado. George Frey/Getty
Exit polls from the 2016 presidential elections found that at least 75 percent of LGBTQ voters supported Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over Trump. A reported 14 percent favored Trump.
Soon after the 2016 election, NBC News interviewed some LGBTQ voters from that 14 percent contingent to find that most were more concerned about issues of gun rights, undocumented immigration, job creation and stopping Islamic radicals moreso than Trump's goals for the LGBTQ community.

Though Trump was lauded by some Republicans for mentioning the LGBTQ community during his speech at the 2016 Republican National Convention, his administration has repeatedly rolled back pre-existing LGBTQ rights and written amicus briefs to the U.S. Supreme Court in support of anti-gay discrimination.
Hornet's male users may not reflect the larger LGBTQ community which largely votes Democrat, and LGBTQ voters may have soured on Trump having seen his administration's handling of queer issues.
Recent polling also suggests that most LGBTQ voters will oppose Trump. A June 2020 poll of more than 30,000 registered voters conducted by the technology company Morning Consult found that 53 percent of LGBTQ-identified voters favored Biden and only 20 percent favored Trump.

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jward

passin' thru
Oh my. I try valiantly not to claim it is a "WAG" or that they "pulled it out their nether regions" Alas, as usual, I am an utter failure despite my best intentions :eek:

The article suggested that this was from
the queer men's social app Hornet
Given the prevalence of
males, particularly gay ones, turning to these to hook up they probably managed a fair representation of respondents :shr:
 

Plain Jane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The fellow that started the Walkaway Movement is gay. And I think that the terror attack on the Pulse Nightclub in Florida had something to do with it. Jim Hoft of The Gateway Pundit came out after that.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Not to mention a lot of gay men, especially middle-aged and older gay men; run businesses, sell real estate, work in banks or Wallstreet, and are members of the Log Cabin Club.

That was true of a chunk of the US Attorney's Office in San Francisco when I worked there, including some of the assistant US Attorneys.

The unstable, semi-crazy, woke, silly people you see on the TV news in no way represent all gay people any more than thinking that all novelists wear tweed coats, have a pet dog, and are male.

Some of the wealthiest people I know, especially the "self-made" ones are gay men who settled down either as single or with a husband; worked hard, invested wisely (often in antiques or real estate) became investors or small business owners and with a chunk of good luck, were successful - just like some straight people do.

I know the Log Cabin club was pretty happy with Trump at first because he was known to be fair in his hiring and treatment of employees across sexual orientations and pretty much "just didn't seem to care."

They have not been happy when some of the administration's policies but like other Republicans and some Libertarians, they are more concerned about what a "Harris-Biden" administration might do to their business and investment interests than they are worried about a potential for a Trump administration push for "reverse social action" when it comes to equal legal rights (not I said equal, not superior, there's a difference between the right to contract a civil marriage and preference in hiring for example).

However, I would say that is a minority a view in the gay community overall; as most of the people I personally know (some of whom are wealthy) still plan to vote Democratic or third party (often Libertarian).

Or to quote Nightwolf, "I want a government that stays out of my gun safe and out of my bedroom," and that is not an uncommon view, especially among more conservative to libertarian gay men.
 

Illini Warrior

Veteran Member
1200 out of 10,000 polled were actually in the US <<< still not necessarily citizens and voters >>> who cares what a German queer thinks ....
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
Not to mention a lot of gay men, especially middle-aged and older gay men; run businesses, sell real estate, work in banks or Wallstreet, and are members of the Log Cabin Club.

That was true of a chunk of the US Attorney's Office in San Francisco when I worked there, including some of the assistant US Attorneys.

The unstable, semi-crazy, woke, silly people you see on the TV news in no way represent all gay people any more than thinking that all novelists wear tweed coats, have a pet dog, and are male.

Some of the wealthiest people I know, especially the "self-made" ones are gay men who settled down either as single or with a husband; worked hard, invested wisely (often in antiques or real estate) became investors or small business owners and with a chunk of good luck, were successful - just like some straight people do.

I know the Log Cabin club was pretty happy with Trump at first because he was known to be fair in his hiring and treatment of employees across sexual orientations and pretty much "just didn't seem to care."

They have not been happy when some of the administration's policies but like other Republicans and some Libertarians, they are more concerned about what a "Harris-Biden" administration might do to their business and investment interests than they are worried about a potential for a Trump administration push for "reverse social action" when it comes to equal legal rights (not I said equal, not superior, there's a difference between the right to contract a civil marriage and preference in hiring for example).

However, I would say that is a minority a view in the gay community overall; as most of the people I personally know (some of whom are wealthy) still plan to vote Democratic or third party (often Libertarian).

Or to quote Nightwolf, "I want a government that stays out of my gun safe and out of my bedroom," and that is not an uncommon view, especially among more conservative to libertarian gay men.
I agree. Having lived my life in MA and VT where gays have been in the open for a long time, except for their sexual preference the majority are no different than straights in their everyday lives. They drive pickup trucks, hunt, fish, wear flannel shirts, serve on the same boards, and work the same kinds of jobs. It is the minority that are the stereotypical effeminate ones.
 

Wildwood

Senior Member
Strangely enough, every gay and lesbian person I know is voting for Trump and they are vocal about it...they voted for him last time too. That includes the children of lifetime friends, a few relatives and some customers. I don't feel close enough to any of them to ask why. I got my info from their facebook posts.
 

Macgyver

Veteran Member
Interesting. All the gay men I know are pro Trump so its probably on par.
But what strikes me as odd is the use of the term "queer", they never use that term.
Your either gay or lesbian. Most gay and lesbian people have no use for the other idiots bqtrxgly etc.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Interesting. All the gay men I know are pro Trump so its probably on par.
But what strikes me as odd is the use of the term "queer", they never use that term.
Your either gay or lesbian. Most gay and lesbian people have no use for the other idiots bqtrxgly etc.
Queer used to be used more in private (taking an insult and making it into a compliment) then it became more of an "in-your-face" thing to use and fling out in public in the early days of the HIV/AIDs crises.

A lot of older gay men and women are still uncomfortable with it as a label again outside of personal associations - by that I mean the kind of thing you might say at a party to your best friend and what you might say to your boss in terms of formality.

Quite a few younger people do embrace the name, like the word "gay" itself, which originally meant "bohemian" "she's an artist and she lives the 'gay life' in Paris," the word "Queer" has morphed over time.

It tends to be a rather individual and somewhat-age related thing, also it is used much more by gay men than lesbian women (at least in my experience) and those who consider themselves "non-binary" or "gender-queer."

But older folks are most likely to say if asked, "yes I'm gay," or "No that's not a picture of my sister on my desk that's my wife."
 

Kathy in FL

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think some of the "other" minority groups are starting to understand that socialism and marxism eventually lead into the cultures that do not tolerate "others" and require complete uniformity. Look at the treatment of gays in many of the socialist countries. Queer females may be showing their stupid bone but queer males seem to be looking a little further down the line and understand what could happen ... what most likely will if they don't help stop it.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I doubt that number has changed much. A good portion of gay men are in the upper income brackets - high earners, and when it comes down to it, most people vote their wallet over their bedroom leanings.
 

jward

passin' thru
It's willful disregard of the known facts n the ground to think that the gay population is only those weird activist shills. We all know that is not the case. Ditto the knowledge that the demographics spread all income and race

I would stop short of suggesting that they vote their checkbook though; if people did that how would we have the coasts?
Last stats I saw put g/l at about 6 percent of the voters, with a 76-82% buy in to the democratic nominees...

I've been saying we're in a paradigm shift, that the "complexion" if you will, of the party is open to change, and in fact many of the minorities are bringing the energy and enthusiasm. Harness that, kick out the Rinos, and we're in new territory.
I know personal anecdote deserves to be laughed off threads for useless, but, i've had more than one gay black guy tell me how many he's got registered to vote this cycle and while mine can be counted on the one hand, they had to kick off their sandals to count theirs. That's what it takes! Behind minority populations, the gay community is the biggest "given" voter group for the dims- chipping into that is amazing.

Not sure whether DJT policy has hurt the community or it is like the schills decrying how racist he is. I know the incomes of the households had risen appreciably under DJT. . .

Anyway, we can't trust any polls. Obviously any truth they tell is purely by accident. Still, it's interesting, and I suspect there is validity to the premise those voting for DJT is increasing.
 

nomifyle

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don’t care what people do with their “naughty bits” (h/t to Monty Python). I just care that they’re anti-communist.
Me either Dennis. Just because some one has a different sexual preference does not mean they are stupid. Back in the day I had many gay friends, kind of like having a girl friend that is a man, make great friends. My only problem with gays and transgenders is their rubbing it in peoples faces, I don't like that at all.

If I knew any gays around here I'd probably gravitate towards them as friends. Although I appreciate that I life in the woods with rednecks that have guns, personally I have little other than that in common with them.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

jward

passin' thru
Brandon Straka
@BrandonStraka

14m

In 2018 a poll came out saying that black support for Trump had jumped something like 10 points- & conservative media ran it around the clock for weeks. Yesterday a poll showed that 45% of American gay men plan to vote for Trump. This is HUGE. Tumbleweeds from conservative media.
 

Repairman-Jack

Veteran Member
I know several in the "gay" community either through work or FOF that are hardcore Trump supporters, they are also new gun owners this year.
 

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
Not surprising when you consider you don't realize 95% of gay men are gay, or at least they don't want to have anything to do with the in-your-face 5%.
 

jward

passin' thru
Exit polls from the 2016 presidential elections found that at least 75 percent of LGBTQ voters supported Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over Trump. A reported 14 percent favored Trump.
Soon after the 2016 election, NBC News interviewed some LGBTQ voters from that 14 percent contingent to find that most were more concerned about issues of gun rights, undocumented immigration, job creation and stopping Islamic radicals moreso than Trump's goals for the LGBTQ community.

The OP suggests states D's took 75% of the vote in '16, and that of those voting R, their concerns were gun rights, illegals immigration and Islamic terrorists as well as job creation...
..Think the midterms pushed it up to the low 80s, percentage wise.

I'm still confident more of the 6-9% of the G/L will cast votes for DJT this election, though no idea whether he can pull in 45%. Maybe! Don't think the "walk aways" are doing so over their wallets though, most seem genuinely soul sick at the toxic crap the communist Democratic party has become.
 
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