Old Greek
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And 10% for the big guy!
SCI New Nuclear Rocket Design to Send Missions to Mars in Just 45 Days
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dstraito
TB Fanatic
Oh, I need one of these for sure!
Seeker22
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Lotsa Fireants, bay-bee!!
Nice graphics and lots of big words in this new Black Budget program to fleece the (already tapped out by trillions) tax payer. We aren't going anywhere- leastways to Mars.
LightEcho
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Hitting a 1 ounce stone at that speed would be like a nuclear blast.
With the camera technology we have today, a launch like this should be able to show live streams (no CGI) forward, back and side views. I guaran-damn-tee they won't... because they can't.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Don't forget that huge domed area in china, ancient china, under which is a tomb or so they say, with a ten acre pool filled with mercury. I've seen it bandied about that it is in fact some sort of nuclear reactor. I forget what was said about the areas surrounding the mercury pool, quartz and gold IIRC. It is totally off limits, with the story being that if it was opened the devil himself would escape into the world. And this was a story on the discovery channel, not ancient pyramids, or ancient aliens.
paul bunyan
Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
personally, i prefer the old fashioned fission bomb powered space craft code named Project Orion.
Check it out:
Play time 54 seconds
Details ala Wiki:
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View: https://youtu.be/ij_LlH1BoQU
Check it out:
Play time 54 seconds
Details ala Wiki:
Project Orion (nuclear propulsion) - Wikipedia
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
ONE of the issues with pulse drive is that it shakes your fillings out, whether or not you had any to begin with.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
that can be over come with the appropriate stabilizers, it comes at a steep cost though.
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Like, 300 tons of inertial spring conditioners and an energy transmogrifier (not yet discovered in this dimension).
Probably the biggest technological breakthrough that would do the most for the most would be finally getting controlled fusion power. With that the biggest benefit would be the ability to make clean water and pump it wherever it's needed after that would be electification etc.
As for this "new" propulsion system, besides opening up the Solar System for exploration (and robot probes would be the best way to do that) the other premier use of it should be to deflect extintion event capable asteroids and comets.
Manned long term exploration missions have a lot of issues to address, the top being radiaiton exposure.
danielboon
TB Fanatic
Why not use the Stargate 
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
we already have the tech, and we've already been out in space, far beyond Mars, and for a very long time!
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
But, how would you know that? And, is it safe & effective?we already have the tech, and we've already been out in space, far beyond Mars, and for a very long time!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
I know lots of things.
Voortrekker
Veteran Member
Was this a Star Trek movie or the tv show?
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
I’ve also been told similar things in a most mysterious way in a Little Rock, Arkansas, truck stop 3 decades ago, such that I am inclined to believe. But I do not “know”… when I asked what powered the vehicle alleged to have already crossed and returned from traversing the galaxy, a phenomenon that was observed at the time of Madam Curie was described to me and which I later discovered more on my own about. Strange universe we live in…
von Koehler
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They had to go back in time to undo a Borg attack.
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Most people, including engineers, tend to think about space flight in terms of current propulsion methods. Thinking outside of the box often gets ones ideas shot down, why is beyond me outside of control and money.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Russia has a nuclear powered missile? Links or something, please.
We did NOT need the Russians to build the space station, most modules were transported via the Space Shuttle. The Shuttle program still worked after the Columbia loss, Bush pre-emptively made us reliant on Russia. He didn't have to do that.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Movie. Star Trek First Contact.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
The crew would explore for three to six months while the launch window for return lined up. That's a flag and footprints mission.
A more useful thing would be to set up a train of supply flights to keep the base as a going concern and grow living and working space.
Some folks, like Musk, want to set civilian habitats there from the get-go and live there permanently.
We'll see.
This new missile has been talked about for the last few years - some problems in development but it appears to be operational - but not deployed - yet.
AP article - not RT - naturally some SPIN but facts are facts - they have developed this tech.
Russia has tested a nuclear-powered missile and could revoke a global atomic test ban, Putin says
Russian President Vladimir Putin says his country has successfully tested a nuclear-powered cruise missile and declared that lawmakers could revoke its ratification of a global nuclear test ban.
apnews.com
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Russia says a lot of things. They "say" they have a hypersonic missile. Their only proof is that they've blown up some targets in Ukraine with them. Of course, a big enough explosion leaves no evidence of the missile, convenient.This new missile has been talked about for the last few years - some problems in development but it appears to be operational - but not deployed - yet.
AP article - not RT - naturally some SPIN but facts are facts - they have developed this tech.
Russia has tested a nuclear-powered missile and could revoke a global atomic test ban, Putin says
Russian President Vladimir Putin says his country has successfully tested a nuclear-powered cruise missile and declared that lawmakers could revoke its ratification of a global nuclear test ban.
This may be more of the same. It also may not be.
LightEcho
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They have fired some missiles with low yields (conventional) that were invisible to the air defense systems. That would imply hypersonic. But my guess is that the hypersonic missiles are not surgically accurate so attacking AD systems or a HQ building near a city could do too much collateral damage.
If the warhead was nuclear, the accuracy would not matter. Get it within 200 meters, or even a mile and you're good on that target.
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
We already have a base at Mars. Actual pic-
And there are tons of photos for them to choose from in documenting this "new" mission.
mdrs.marssociety.org
And there are tons of photos for them to choose from in documenting this "new" mission.
Mars Desert Research Station
mdrs.marssociety.org
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
We already have a base at Mars. Actual pic-
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And there are tons of photos for them to choose from in documenting this "new" mission.
Mars Desert Research Station
That's not on Mars, and you know it.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
A warhead carried by a stealth aircraft dropped shortly before the target would also be more or less undetectable. That in itself would be an advancement for the Russians, and that's my actual hunch on the hypersonic reports. That's what we were doing with the F-117 forty years ago.
We're talking potemkin hypersonic missiles, essentially.
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Until I can see live feed of a rocket ship on-board cameras(flat image- not fish-eye) showing earth in a rear view from 10 miles to 400,000 miles away, with stars/constellations we can check, and the moon... then I don't believe we have ever been to Mars or the moon.... so, the Utah desert is as close as we will get to Mars.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
What does that have to do with you misrepresenting the Mars Society's research facility as being Mars? I know, you thought you were being droll, but that's just a coping mechanism.
No amount of explanation that can be offered, no logic will convince you, and that's your right. However, your reasoning is about as valid as me saying I don't believe in Europe because I haven't been there.
Well you are free to believe whatever makes you feel good.
But facts are facts and Russia has developed, deployed and used Hypersonic missiles (several versions) - well documented over the last few year in Russian and Western media and well discussed by weapons experts.
And it is not just what "they"say - confirmed by the US
From a CNN article back in 2022
11:39 a.m. ET, March 19, 2022
US officials confirm Russia has used hypersonic missiles against Ukraine
From CNN's Natasha Bertrand, Jim Sciutto and Barbara Starr
US officials confirmed to CNN that Russia launched hypersonic missiles against Ukraine last week, the first known use of such missiles in combat. The US was able to track the launches in real time, the sources said.
As for their Nuke powered missile - again this development over the last 8 years or so has again been well documented by Western sources - several reports of tests that went bad - but the program is still operational and successful tests have been run. If this did not work they would not have kept the program running.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
So, we're taking CNN at their word now?
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I've heard about their nuclear incidents. It's possibly that the Russians were working on such a missile and something went awry. It's also possible that they were working on some warhead that they should not have been, and it was more palatable to claim it was something else.
I think you should think twice before believing reporting about Russian statements. They exaggerate, a LOT. They also often just make stuff up from whole cloth. We used to understand this, but now that TPTB actually seem to want WWIII it seems that every scary claim is taken as gospel.