CORONA New Botswana variant, 32 'horrific' mutations. most evolved strain EVER and could be 'worse than Delta'; may have emerged in an HIV patient

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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My memory tells me they traced it to an already deceased person, from Africa, that was known to be from a tribal area that had relations with monkeys. It was a slow start at spreading, but took off with needle users and homosexuals. I'm not trying to be a smart ass or racist, this is what I honestly recall.
Originally, AIDS was called GRID (Gay-Related Immunity Disorder.) You are correct.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Originally, AIDS was called GRID (Gay-Related Immunity Disorder.) You are correct.
Reagan got on TV and told us we didn't need to worry because it was just affecting gay men. That immediately told us there would be no serious effort at nipping it in the bud. My wife and I looked at each other and agreed we were going to be in a world of hurt from that attitude.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Bioweapons mutate. Bioweapons were "enhanced" by the chinese marxist monsters and their pet dr mengele. Africa is a great petra dish for the chinese to ethic cleanse the black africans. Chinese Lebenstrum includes BOTH Africa and CONUS. I's the land and resources, stupid. :D

Take a bat virus, mix with AIDS, cut in some prions, add a dash of vaccine with spikes, send it to Africa and let it percolate in the cesspool of all that and you got yourself a new black death mutated virus, not bacteria, just in time to kill off any purebloods left. Did I forget the ebola and/or smallpox. Plus gates has been shooting off his mouth about smallpox.

Madagascar also had the psycho scientist gay killer weaponize the local strain.
 
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bw

Fringe Ranger
Africa is a great petra dish for the chinese to ethic cleanse the black africans.
Correct me, but I don't remember any significant death counts from Africa. We expected a heavy toll before the bug got there, but nada. Do they have a big jab program in the hinterlands? If they don't, and so if the jab won't clear them out, and the bug didn't, not much cleansing going on.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Old Fart
Correct me, but I don't remember any significant death counts from Africa. We expected a heavy toll before the bug got there, but nada. Do they have a big jab program in the hinterlands? If they don't, and so if the jab won't clear them out, and the bug didn't, not much cleansing going on.
Throughout Sub-Saharan Africa a lot of the people there routinely take Hydroxychloroquine for Malaria prophylaxis and Ivermectin for treating various internal parasites (i.e. worms) they have there. But of course you know that "officially" those meds are dangerous and don't work to treat Covid!! (also the most heavily populated province in India has also knocked Covid out using these medications....but that doesn't count either) [/sarc off]
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Throughout Sub-Saharan Africa a lot of the people there routinely take Hydroxychloroquine for Malaria prophylaxis and Ivermectin for treating various internal parasites (i.e. worms) they have there. But of course you know that "officially" those meds are dangerous and don't work to treat Covid!! (also the most heavily populated province in India has also knocked Covid out using these medications...
Thanks for reminding me. It was India that gave us the clue to use ivermectin, I believe. So perhaps low death counts from the bug in Africa. Again, not much cleansing then, barring the jab.
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB


New Botswana variant with 32 'horrific' mutations is the most evolved Covid strain EVER and could be 'worse than Delta' — as expert says it may have emerged in an HIV patient


  • Only 10 cases of the strain — dubbed B.1.1.529 — have been spotted to date
  • Variant has 32 mutations, many of which suggest it is more vaccine resistant
  • Scientists warn the variant could be worse 'than nearly anything else about'
British experts have sounded the alarm over a new Covid variant believed to have emerged in Botswana that is the most mutated version of the virus yet.

Only 10 cases of the strain, which could eventually be named 'Nu', have been detected so far.

But it has already been spotted in three countries, suggesting the variant is more widespread.

It carries 32 mutations, many of which suggest it is highly transmissible and vaccine-resistant, and has more alterations to its spike protein than any other variant.

Professor Francois Balloux, a geneticist at University College London, said it likely emerged in a lingering infection in an immunocompromised patient, possibly someone with undiagnosed AIDS.

Changes to the spike make it difficult for current jabs to fight off, because they train the immune system to recognise an older version of this part of the virus
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Dr Tom Peacock, a virologist at Imperial College who first picked up on its spread, described the variant's combination of mutations as 'horrific'.

He warned that B.1.1.529, its scientific name, had the potential to be 'worse than nearly anything else about' — including the world-dominant Delta strain.

Scientists told MailOnline, however, that its unprecedented number of mutations might work against it and make it 'unstable', preventing it from becoming widespread.

They said there was 'no need to be overly concerned' because there were no signs yet that it was spreading rapidly.

Three infections have been detected in Botswana to date and six in South Africa — where variant surveillance is more robust.

One case has also been spotted in a 36-year-old man in Hong Kong who recently returned from the continent.

There are no cases in Britain. But the UK Health Security Agency, which took over from Public Health England, said it was monitoring the situation closely.

The Prime Minister's official spokesman said the variant was 'not seen as something that is an issue' for the UK at present.



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The mutant variant has sparked concern because of its 'very extensive' set of mutations.

Professor Francois Balloux, a geneticist at University College London, said it was likely the variant would be much more able to dodge antibodies than Delta.


He told MailOnline: 'For the time being, it should be closely monitored.

'But there's no need to be overly concerned, unless it starts going up in frequency.'

He said its many mutations suggested it could have emerged during a lingering infection in an immunocompromised person, such as an AIDS patient.

In patients with weakened immune systems infections can linger for months because the body is unable to fight it off.

This gives the virus time to acquire mutations that allow it to get around the body's defences.


Scientists previously said the Kent 'Alpha' variant may have emerged in this way.

Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick Medical School, said it 'looks like' this mutant strain could be better at dodging vaccine-triggered immunity than other mutants based on its mutations.

But he added: 'It's always difficult to say just by looking at [mutations], and so much depends on how the immune system sees the change and responds.


'But it looks like just because of the severe load of [mutations] — some of which we know about quite a bit in terms of harming transmission — it looks like it might be slightly more qorrying than the South African variant.'

He said it was hard to tell whether the virus would be more transmissible than Delta at this stage.

Professor David Livermore, a microbiologist at the University of East Anglia, said the Botswana variant had sparked concern because of its 'very extensive' set of mutations.

He said: 'This increases the risk of vaccine escape, but doesn't prove that it will occur.

'Nor is the strain's infectiousness clear, and it too will be affected by the spike's structure.'

The Botswana variant carries mutations K417N and E484A that are similar to those on the South African 'Beta' variant that made it better able to dodge vaccines.

But it also has the N440K, found on Delta, and S477N, on the New York variant, which are also linked to antibody escape.

The variant also has mutations P681H and N679K which are 'rarely seen together' and could make it yet more jab resistant.


And the mutation N501Y that makes viruses more transmissible and was previously seen on the Kent 'Alpha' variant and Beta among others.

Other mutations it has include G446S, T478K, Q493K, G496S, Q498R and Y505H, although their significance is not yet clear.

Dr Meera Chand, from the UKHSA, said: 'The UK Health Security Agency, in partnership with scientific bodies across the globe, is constantly monitoring the status of SARS-CoV-2 variants as they emerge and develop worldwide.

'As it is in the nature of viruses to mutate often and at random, it is not unusual for small numbers of cases to arise featuring new sets of mutations. Any variants showing evidence of spread are rapidly assessed.'

It comes as Covid cases continued to rise across the UK but deaths and hospitalisations still firmly trended downwards.

Another 43,676 cases have been recorded in the last 24 hours, a rise of 14.1 per cent on the 38,263 confirmed positive cases last Wednesday.



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Just 62 per 100,000 people in England would be hospitalised if they were exposed to Covid with no further restrictions put in place, according to research by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It has the lowest expected admissions in Europe thanks to its successful booster rollout and high levels of prior infection


Just 62 per 100,000 people in England would be hospitalised if they were exposed to Covid with no further restrictions put in place, according to research by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It has the lowest expected admissions in Europe thanks to its successful booster rollout and high levels of prior infection


Meanwhile, 722 Britons infected with the virus sought NHS care on Saturday, the latest date figures are available for, marking a 7.3 per cent drop week-on-week.

And daily Covid fatalities fell by a quarter, with 149 people dying within 28 days of testing positive for the virus.

Both measurements lag two to three weeks behind the trend in cases due to a delay between a person catching Covid and becoming severely unwell.

Cases have been trending upwards in the UK for the past fortnight after schools went back from the half-term break at the start of the month.

Infections are concentrated among younger age groups, while booster jabs are driving down cases among the over-60s.

A study by SAGE scientists found today England would only suffer 35,000 Covid hospitalisations if the entire population got infected right now compared to a quarter of a million in Germany.

The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) analysis suggested the NHS is unlikely to be overwhelmed by the virus even in the event of a major surge.

Researchers looked at vaccination rates and cumulative infection numbers in 18 countries in Europe to estimate levels of immunity and work out what would happen if everyone was suddenly exposed to the virus.

England would be the least affected in the hypothetical scenario with 34,720 admissions and 6,200 deaths.

Even though the model only looked at England, there is nothing to suggest Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would be hit harder.

There have been more than 500,000 Covid hospitalisations in England alone in the last 18 months, for comparison, with just over 140,000 dying with the virus.

The study estimated around 280,000 people in Germany would be hospitalised with the virus — the most of any country in Europe — while Romania would suffer around 150,000.

The researchers include Dr Rosanna Barnard, Dr Nick Davies and Dr Adam Kucharski — three members of SAGE whose modelling has been instrumental in Government policy during the pandemic.

They said higher levels of prior infection and the success of the booster rollout in England meant the country is likely to be better protected than its neighbours this winter.

Britain was branded the 'sick man of Europe' this summer after it dropped all restrictions in England in July and saw cases spiral to as much as 50,000 a day. But experts now say opening up early allowed the country to frontload its cases, meaning more people now have immunity than in Europe.

Scientists also believe Britain's longer dosage gap between vaccines — 12 weeks compared to three weeks on the continent — has afforded Brits longer lasting immunity from jabs.
Hong Kong? Just a hop, skip, and a jump from Wuhan? Amazing how efficient feeder liners are. So, the latest Chinese Communist Flu, by way of Botswana, debuts on the world stage… Truly an “international” disease, courtesy of Mao’s ideological descendents…. If you don’t want to wait for the latest, handy-dandy, hyper sonic whiz-bang, use that time honored genocide tool, disease. After all, it’s much cheaper, and not radioactive. Of course, it probably will mutate, and mutate, and mutate…

OA
 

ShadowMan

Designated Old Fart
We carried Ivermectin on ships and during deployments overseas back in my navy days as a standard treatment for internal parasites. Chloroquine along with Primaquine was a standard prophylaxis (prevention) treatment for Malaria back during the Vietnam war and I remember taking it during my service years from 1975 to 1998. So that B.S. about both of these meds being dangerous is pure bunk. Sure if you're stupid and take more than directed you're going to have issues, that's called an OD....i.e. OVERDOSE. Same thing happens when you take too much of any "safe drug", like Aspirin or Tylenol or anything.
 

Babs

Veteran Member
Correct me, but I don't remember any significant death counts from Africa. We expected a heavy toll before the bug got there, but nada. Do they have a big jab program in the hinterlands? If they don't, and so if the jab won't clear them out, and the bug didn't, not much cleansing going on.
I really don't believe that "they" want to kill their slaves. It's the whites they want to kill.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The African health system is so dysfunctional they had neither the people, the supplies, or the drugs to give the jab, hence the low death rates.

Result is they needed to come up with a new mutated virus. Remember the Shanghai virus lab leak? Not a botswania virus at all, bw just the Shangai virus in Hong Kong and botswania. China don't need black slaves, they got all the dissidents they need.

See how cunning they are to release this variant into Africa, mix it all up maybe with the jab already in it. :shkr:

China and fasci/mengele just keep tweaking the virus and vaccine till they get it right.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Correct me, but I don't remember any significant death counts from Africa.
Coronavirus is the "white" adapted virii. Hence the low death toll even though unrestrained (BLM parties), unmasked, non-vaccinated low death rate? Their only downfall as a race is fried chicken and the body mass/hypertension resulting. This hard to anticipate without knowledge of social trends (and KFC.)

The problem with genetic targeted bio-weapons is that to be truly effective, one needs a different bio-weapon for each genome - and hopefully all of these DON'T have an effect on one's own genome.

But humanity is quite "mixed" genetically. This a genomic benefit and defense against naturally occurring virii.

The Chinese have set themselves to a challenge...

Dobbin
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
The virus mutation to watch is the new one in the U.K.. I have forgotten the name for it, but it accounts for 12% of cases as of the time of the article. This version so far has been less lethal by far and if it can gain dominance it could wipe out the other strains.

We are in the natural selection process and according to Vanden Bossche, the kids are where nature sends this virus to become benign.
 
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Hfcomms

EN66iq
And yet I’m reading MSM stories how the authorities are ‘puzzled’ that Africa has the lowest incident of Corona virus and just by coincidence only had a 6% vaccination rate and they just can’t figure it out. Of course in many of those African countries IVM and HCQ are available OTC or are given for free by their governments. Connecting the dots isn’t rocket science here.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
The virus mutation to watch is the new one in the U.K.. I have forgotten the name for it, but it accounts for 12% of cases as of the time of the article. This version so far has been less lethal by far and if it can gain dominance it could wipe out the other strains.

We are in the natural selection process and according to Vanden Bossche, the kids are where nature sends this virus to become benign.
We expect a baby in March. Both parents were fully vax before conception. Both parents got very sick with confirmed covid after conception. If this kid makes it, I'm calling him Phoenix.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
I think you have something there. Scare the holy hell out of everyone, including pet kittens and puppies, and they will vote for the one that can save them. The sheep will forget about freedom, and just blindly accept whatever security the MSM says they will get. Plus, many of the unvaxed will be lined up like cattle at a slaughter house waiting for their turn at the vax shots that they already know do not work.

My understanding of AIDS, from readings quite a while back, they were trying to trace its beginnings to patient zero, that is the first person to ever be known to have had it. My memory tells me they traced it to an already deceased person, from Africa, that was known to be from a tribal area that had relations with monkeys. It was a slow start at spreading, but took off with needle users and homosexuals. I'm not trying to be a smart ass or racist, this is what I honestly recall. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
For over a hundred years, the medical research community has preserved human body samples for future study.

Aids had a very slow, predictable mutation rate.

Samples of HIV positive human samples going back to the 1930's have been identified. They all tie back to Africa. Based on the differences in genetic mutations in these samples there had to be a MINIMUM of 30 years before reaching a common ancestor, taking the emergence of AIDS back to at least 1900.

It took off due to it making it's way into certain African villages, some of whom found their way to Haiti. An American drug company set up a blood products lab there and paid the locals for their blood where a bunch of HIV positive donors lived. The medical company spread the virus to America via tainted drugs. Once in the gay male community of their sodomite lifestyle, if spread fast due to their debauchery. There was also a thriving gay sex for minors industry there where American pedophiles would fly in for the week end.

The above is from either "Introduction to infectious disease" or another book I read on zoonic virus crossover that I can't recall the name of ("Breakout" maybe?). These were two of the most terrifying, non fiction books ever written.

In nature, whenever an animal species has a population explosion, nature always has a disease that nearly wipes it out and puts it back in check, and here we are.
 

ChicagoMan74

Lets go Brandon!
If the covid jab experiment continues after today then we know for absolute sure that this is not a medical treatment, it is a cull.
Well...It's been over 6 months now...and what can I say...I'm still here with no issues from the Pfizer vax. I did catch a cold of for a couple days...and one day I had a mild headache over those 6 months. Yearly checkup and bloodwork was A+; no ER or hospital trips for anything.

So ummmm...yeah.
 

Samuel Adams

Veteran Member
Well...It's been over 6 months now...and what can I say...I'm still here with no issues from the Pfizer vax. I did catch a cold of for a couple days...and one day I had a mild headache over those 6 months. Yearly checkup and bloodwork was A+; no ER or hospital trips for anything.

So ummmm...yeah.
You may have received a placebo of some sort.

You may have received a version not meant to be immediately obvious.
The evidence of different “batches” is out there.

Tell your tale to the girl in the first video at the link.....then scroll down and tell it to the others.



Meanwhile, were I in your shoes, I’d prolly whistle just as loud past that graveyard.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
For over a hundred years, the medical research community has preserved human body samples for future study.

Aids had a very slow, predictable mutation rate.

Samples of HIV positive human samples going back to the 1930's have been identified. They all tie back to Africa. Based on the differences in genetic mutations in these samples there had to be a MINIMUM of 30 years before reaching a common ancestor, taking the emergence of AIDS back to at least 1900.

It took off due to it making it's way into certain African villages, some of whom found their way to Haiti. An American drug company set up a blood products lab there and paid the locals for their blood where a bunch of HIV positive donors lived. The medical company spread the virus to America via tainted drugs. Once in the gay male community of their sodomite lifestyle, if spread fast due to their debauchery. There was also a thriving gay sex for minors industry there where American pedophiles would fly in for the week end.

The above is from either "Introduction to infectious disease" or another book I read on zoonic virus crossover that I can't recall the name of ("Breakout" maybe?). These were two of the most terrifying, non fiction books ever written.

In nature, whenever an animal species has a population explosion, nature always has a disease that nearly wipes it out and puts it back in check, and here we are.
They also found it in a British sailor who had died after a tour in Africa in the 1950s, since then they have pushed it that far back (most militaries keep tissue records going back decades, the US has them back to the US Civil War).

That was the outbreak in the West that didn't happen, in the 1970s it is thought to have spread in Africa by truck drivers in the "Kenosha Highway" who gave it back and forth to prostitutes in African ports. Eventually, this insured it got into the rest of the world being recognized first in Haiti, then later North America (noticed by a GS 7 level clerk who suddenly got a large number of calls for medicines the CDC had to distribute when the normal amount was about seven times a year for a type of lung condition).

Patient Zero (last I looked) for North America that was traced was a gay airline steward from Canada (white) who was extremely sexually active and traveled.

In the West, this disease did primarily affect homosexuals, hemophiliacs, and their wives, prostitutes, people (including mothers with C sections)who had blood transfusions, and a small number of heterosexual transmissions. Later a lot of homosexual and heterosexual cases were showing up among needle drug uses, their partners, and sometimes their children.

In Africa, India, and China most cases are heterosexual, in Russia, it is hard to tell as it is linked partly to the Prison system which suggests homosexual (but not always consensual) behavior as well as intravenous drug use. In China, it was mostly caused by contaminated needles used by the CCP to collect blood in the 1990s; it has since moved into some of the rural population.

OK, that's enough thread drift, but when you have a disease spread through sex or blood, highly sexually active people gay or straight are likely to catch it more than the rest of the public.

As for this "new mutation" of course there is one, COVID viruses always mutate, as Nightwolf used to say "that's what they do."

The fact that the patient had untreated HIV just made them a Petri dish because of having a compromised immune system. It could just as easily happened in someone in the West getting Chemothreapy.
 
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