Never Trump’ national-security Republicans fear they have been blacklisted

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Epic snivel and whine from the Washington Post.
It is shocking to see the naked greed in these political courtesans with their record of failure as they abase themselves to get some lost privilege and power.
There are millions of choices for Mr. Trump among those who were not stupid enough to sign a snotty 'NeverTrump' petition.
I suggest that they eat bitterness.
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'Never Trump’ national-security Republicans fear they have been blacklisted
By David Nakamura January 16 at 5:35 PM

They are some of the biggest names in the Republican national security firmament, veterans of past GOP administrations who say, if called upon by President-elect Donald Trump, they stand ready to serve their country again.

But their phones aren’t ringing. Their entreaties to Trump Tower in New York have mostly gone unanswered. In Trump world, these establishment all-stars say they are “PNG” — personae non gratae.

Their transgression was signing one or both of two public “Never Trump” letters during the campaign, declaring they would not vote for Trump and calling his candidacy a danger to the nation.

One letter, with 122 names, was published by War on the Rocks, a website devoted to national security commentary, during the primary season in March. The other, with 50 names, including some repeat signatories, was published by the New York Times during the general-election campaign in August.

Now, just days before Trump is sworn in as the nation’s 45th president, the letter signers fear they have been added to another document, this one private — a purported blacklist compiled by Trump’s political advisers.


“Before he won, the conversation was, ‘We really would love for you to change your mind and join us,’ ” Peter Feaver, a National Security Council special adviser under President George W. Bush, said of informal talks with Trump aides. Feaver, who signed both letters, added that, “Since he won . . . the conversation is, ‘There likely will be a blacklist of people who signed the letters who won’t themselves be eligible for a post.’ ”

Trump transition aides did not respond to a request for comment for this article.

[From March: Trump ‘fundamentally dishonest,’ say national security leaders]

The president-elect has virtually no experience in national security and foreign policy, and his transition team could presumably benefit from the broadest pool of applicants for the influential appointive positions in the State Department, Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security.

But the purportedly blacklisted figures report to their jobs at Washington law firms and think tanks in a state of indefinite limbo as their colleagues, some working in the same offices, are flirting with potential administration jobs.

Last week, the Trump transition held a private briefing for secretary-of-state nominee Rex Tillerson to prepare him for his Senate confirmation hearing. One former Bush national security official who works at a Washington think tank said that some of his younger staff assistants were invited to participate but that he was not. He assumes it was because he signed the letter.

“It’s hostile,” said this person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of further retribution. It’s not just that we’re frozen out. . . . I was told they said there was an enemies list.”“
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Among those who signed at least one of the letters are Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff, the first two secretaries of the Department of Homeland Security; two former U.S. trade ambassadors, Carla Hills and Robert Zoellick; two former heads of U.S. intelligence agencies, John Negroponte and retired Air Force Gen. Michael V. Hayden; a former ambassador to NATO; and several former deputy secretaries of various U.S. government agencies.

Not everyone who signed the letters wants a job, and some remain vocal critics of Trump. But many stand ready to serve or offer guidance if asked.

The letters were explicit in their denunciations of Trump’s professed support for torture of terrorism suspects, his pledge to build a wall along the border with Mexico, his anti-Muslim rhetoric and his admiration for Russian President Vladi*mir Putin.

The letters also attacked Trump’s character and temperament, asserting that he “lacks self-control and acts impetuously,” has demonstrated “erratic behavior” and is “fundamentally dishonest.”

Former Bush administration lawyer John Bellinger III, who organized the letter published in the Times, said that many have not given up and are trying to help from the outside.

They’re seeing how it goes and trying to provide advice, counsel, support to our friends who go into the administration,” said Bellinger, who has served as legal counsel at the State Department and the National Security Council.

The scenario was set up by Trump’s un*or*tho*dox candidacy and then his upset victory. The threat the New York business mogul’s populist campaign posed to the establishment of his party caused some of the Republicans’ leading lights to oppose him, even after he had clinched the nomination.

The question after Election Day was how quickly Trump loyalists and the onetime GOP resistance would reconcile.

In some cases, the process has gone fairly smoothly. Congressional leaders who had been lukewarm toward Trump’s campaign have made nice with the president-elect, and they have vowed to work together on a conservative policy agenda.

In other cases, it has been painfully awkward, as with Trump’s flirtation with Mitt Romney for secretary of state. Romney had called Trump a “phony” and a “fraud” last March, but the 2012 GOP presidential nominee called to congratulate Trump on his election victory. After a courtship that included a dinner of frog legs and lamb chops in New York, Romney was passed over for Tillerson, the head of ExxonMobil.

During a national security forum last week at the U.S. Institute of Peace in Washington, K.T. McFarland, who was named Trump’s deputy national security adviser, opened her remarks by referring to the “elephant in the room.”

“Most of the people in this room didn’t support Donald Trump — maybe not at first or maybe ever,” she said. “And I suspect most of the people in this room didn’t think he’d win. But he has.”

Some of the “Never Trump” letters signers fear they are at the bottom of the pecking order, below those who expressed verbal opposition to Trump’s campaign but did not sign either of the letters.

The conflict was exacerbated shortly after the election when Eliot Cohen, a State Department counselor during the Bush administration who had helped organize the War on the Rocks letter, aired new criticism of the Trump transition. In an opinion column for The Washington Post in November, Cohen said that a friend on the transition team had asked him to provide names of potential job candidates — with the stipulation that he include no one who signed either of the letters.

Cohen wrote that he became convinced there were “pent-up resentments” among members of the Trump team, and he warned young policy experts against working for the administration. Cohen has had no further communications with the transition team.

Believe me — my phone is not ringing,” he said in a recent interview.

Other letter signers said Cohen had misinterpreted emails from the transition official and overreacted, and some of them expressed a sense of regret.

Mary Beth Long, who served as assistant secretary of defense in the Bush administration, signed the War on the Rocks letter. But, she said, her opinion of Trump improved as he began to moderate his rhetoric and selected Indiana Gov. Mike Pence as his running mate.

Long attended a Pence rally in Charlotte in October, during which, she said, a local GOP official announced that a “Never Trump” letter signer in the audience had changed her mind and was now supporting Trump. The crowd cheered.

But her about-face hasn’t thawed the ice. Long said her inquiries to the Trump transition team to get clarity on some of his foreign policy positions have gone unanswered. She said that she has spoken with retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, Trump’s designee for national security adviser, whom she knows from the Pentagon, but that she isn’t expecting a job.

If I were asked to sign a letter like that again, I would be much more careful about the verbiage that related to the candidate himself,” she said.

Some letter signers said the Trump transition might be overwhelmed and could reach out more broadly in the coming weeks. Some hoped that Cabinet nominees, such as retired Marine Gen. James N. Mattis, Trump’s pick to head the Pentagon, could potentially have the freedom to hire them. Many jobs below the Cabinet level remain unfilled.


But others are resigned to waiting until some of Trump’s initial appointees begin leaving his administration.

Frances Townsend, a former Bush homeland security adviser who signed the War on the Rocks letter, is friendly with Flynn. A few weeks after the election, she received an email from the transition team inviting her to meet with the president-elect.

Ahead of the meeting, she thought over how to explain her past actions if Trump raised the letter — but he did not, she said.

“I took that as a sign of maturity and graciousness,” said Townsend, who has not taken a job with the administration and declined to say whether she was offered one.

“As I was leaving, I said I was privileged and humbled to come in and speak to him,” she said. “It was a veiled reference [to the letter]. Given the circumstances, I didn’t expect to be there.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...fadf54-d9a3-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Well, boo hoo. You made your bed, now lay in it. And shut up. We don't need your kind in any admin of Trump's. We need patriots. Not neocons. Go away. Just plain, go away.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Actions have consequences. They took a stand and that was their right. Trump is not PC in the least and I would expect him to can or pass over ANY ONE that doesn't stand with him. You don't get to where he is in life by trusting everyone that crosses your path.
 
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Bardou

Veteran Member
Their transgression was signing one or both of two public “Never Trump” letters during the campaign, declaring they would not vote for Trump and calling his candidacy a danger to the nation.

You too stupid to be asked to do anything for Trump. Never sign your name to anything unless you're willing to accept the consequences of your actions. No sympathy for you No Trumpers will ever come from me. Pick your poison.
 

blueinterceptor

Veteran Member
What did they expect, they chose a democrat. Actions have consequences. See ya in 8 years.
They publicly ridiculed him. Perhaps a very public apology would be a start.
 

cooter

cantankerous old coot
well quite frankly,

Im glad trump is doing this, may the butthurt on these idiots be massive, these idiots went public saying how much they hated trump then expect him to give them a call later on, in the private sector, its called,

burning bridges,

yer done suckers, now hit the road,
 

WFK

Senior Something
It has been said here already three times:
Actions have consequences!
Now adult children are complaining?
 

Be Well

may all be well
Former Bush administration lawyer John Bellinger III, who organized the letter published in the Times, said that many have not given up and are trying to help from the outside.

"Help" what? to undermine Trump and his plans?
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
Never Trump’ national-security Republicans fear they have been blacklisted

Oh well. They cannot be trusted, I would do the same in Trump's shoes. As someone said above, they have every right to free speech and to take a public position, but those come with consequences.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
These are the very people who got us into all of these messes, they put out two letters designed to undermine the party nominee, and now they expect jobs?

The establishment is no better than the Precious Snowflakes that plague us. They have never been held accountable for their failures.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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The establishment is no better than the Precious Snowflakes that plague us. They have never been held accountable for their failures.


THAT is the primary problem across all levels of elected office. And it applies to the "press" too. You can hear the butt-hurt in all of them as they squeal.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
That's funny. Trump didn't start an enemies list; these people started it themselves by signing the letter. Now they're surprised that Trump doesn't want to hire his enemies? Give me a break.
 

CTFIREBATTCHIEF

Veteran Member
What's the saying out there that I"ve read, something along the lines of "if you're going to kill the king, you better not miss"


They missed! And now they pay the consequences of their actions. Those letter signers thought it was gonna be cute, to be hip, to slap Trump down. They forgot one thing.

THIS guy who they tried to piss on, grew up, worked and made his bones in an environment that none of them could survive in for 5 minutes without screaming for their mommies. NYC in general and the new york real estate and construction business in particular is the definition of "take no prisoners give no quarter". You find out quick who you can trust,who you need to work with, and who's palms to grease or you're dead. This is how Trump grew up. These asshats were dumb enough to sign, in some cases twice,letters disrespecting him and they expect jobs?

ARE THEY NUTS?

Bosses ARE human, (well at least most of them) and there comes a point where somebody crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed and that formerly benevolent boss turns into a fire breathing dragon. I know, I've seen it and as a boss I've done it. Sucks to be those letter signers doesn't it. LMFAO

Learn from this snowflakes...it's a new day out there, and ya'all have just found out that you're not going to be part of it
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
if I was Trump - I'd fire the first stupid motherf___ing underling that came to me - advising the hiring one of these traitor SOBs .... not just an affirmed enemy of Trump - you need to question their whole character - especially this election - don't support the leading GOP? - you want something like Hellery running the country?????
 

evenso

Veteran Member
I said this about another issue on another thread. If this wasn't a real issue, I would be laughing my head off at the mind set of these idiots. They're acting like 5 year olds. Who signs a letter saying they'll never support a candidate and then expects a position in his administration?

Shows to go you that this is apparently how Washington works. You can trash a candidate during the campaign and then kiss and make up and be part of his operation. Incestuous, disgusting community.
 

Witness

Deceased
Who would want someone THAT stupid working for them?

Trump's friend Newt Gingrich also takes names and remembers.

Disloyalty is taken very personal in business everywhere, it'll get you fired.
 

vestige

Deceased
F'em. Every last one.

Exactly... and re this:

They are some of the biggest names in the Republican national security firmament, veterans of past GOP administrations who say, if called upon by President-elect Donald Trump, they stand ready to serve their country again.

More correctly they "stand ready to sh*t in their country's face... again."

If they really want to help their country they can buy one of these (like Obama's) and start a new career:

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Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
if I was Trump - I'd fire the first stupid motherf___ing underling that came to me - advising the hiring one of these traitor SOBs .... not just an affirmed enemy of Trump - you need to question their whole character - especially this election - don't support the leading GOP? - you want something like Hellery running the country?????

You are absolutely right.
Whoever recommends any of these morons should be booted out of the inner circle.
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BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
Yeah. it takes a real mealy mouthedliberal pos to say "Never" means anything other than ever ever ever never ever ever never eternity, NEVER EVER.

Never is supurlative, you need only say it once. There is no question in how you feel about never...

never includes long afte you have died, are being tortured for your views, or even are having your no-talent cushy govt job and free-shit-sarmy ration are being threatened..

never is ALWAYS longer than about 3 months. I hope they had alternate work lined up for the next 8,16, 24 years.. because their personal eperiences with turd world tater-dicks and ragtag local terrorists is going to be completely outdated anda non issue by the time they're relevant next... though they did say "never" and thats probably the next time we have to federally supplement their stupidity.


Never commies. Not one. Not ever.
 
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