WTF?!? NBC's Lester Holt says we don’t need to hear both sides to define truth: ‘Fairness is overrated’

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NBC News anchor Lester Holt received praise from liberal media figures after saying reporters don’t need to hear both sides of a story before determining the "truth."

"I think it’s become clear that fairness is overrated ... the idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in," Holt said on Tuesday night while accepting an award at the 45th Murrow Symposium.

Lester Holt feels the idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in.

Lester Holt feels "the idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in."
"That the sun sets in the west is a fact. Any contrary view does not deserve our time or attention," Holt continued. "Decisions to not give unsupported arguments equal time are not a dereliction of journalistic responsibility or some kind of agenda, in fact, it’s just the opposite."

Holt then said "providing an open platform for misinformation, for anyone to come say whatever they want, especially when issues of public health and safety are at stake, can be quite dangerous," before declaring the duty of reporters is to be "fair to the truth."


Holt’s comments conjure up memories of CNN’s Don Lemon dismissing Trump supporters during a January rant about alleged election interference. Lemon mocked GOP lawmakers' claims that they opposed President Biden's Electoral College victory on behalf of millions of Trump voters and their concerns about claims of voter fraud and irregularities.

"So stop staying that we must respect Trump supporters who believe bulls--- because it's bulls--- that you've been feeding them! The president and you, you've been feeding them the BS and now that they believe it, again, another self-fulfilling prophecy and feedback loop," Lemon said.

Critics of Holt’s approach saw his comments as essentially a dog whistle to liberal reporters who see themselves as the arbiters of truth and, therefore, can cover the news from a one-sided perspective with the approval of NBC's top anchor.

Cornell Law School professor and media critic William A. Jacobson didn't think Holt’s remarks apply to the modern world where outspoken liberals are often working as journalists.

"In a better world in which the mainstream major media had a history of fairness and non-partisanship, Holt's point that journalism inherently involves filtering information might make sense. This is not such a better world, this is a world in which the mainstream major media wears its partisanship on its sleeve, manipulating the news cycle to the advantage of Democrats," Jacobson told Fox News. "In the real world, Holt's advice simply justifies media political bias."

While Jacobson isn’t a fan of Holt’s comments, many liberal media watchdogs cheered him on.

Left-wing New York University journalism professor Jay Rosen felt Holt’s comments were reason to celebrate.

"When the chief anchor of one of the major networks agrees that bothsidesing everything is bad practice, critics have finally won a point and they should celebrate," Rosen tweeted.


Rosen followed up: "Someone like Lester Holt is a center of gravity among news workers and if he thinks it's okay not to both sides everything that can influence thought and behavior across a lot of desks."

CNN’s left-leaning "Reliable Sources" media newsletter highlighted Holt’s remarks as a "sharp critique of bothsidesism," a notable turn of phrase from a reporting team that almost completely reserves its criticisms for right-leaning outlets, including calls for censorship.

Outspokenly liberal CNN White House correspondent John Hardwood simply wrote, "Thank you" to Holt.


Media Research Center executive editor Tim Graham mocked Holt’s comments by sharing a 2017 report detailing the NBC News anchor admitting to Hillary Clinton that he "winced" when she was called dishonest.



Holt replaced Brian Williams as anchor of "NBC Nightly News" in 2015 after Williams admitted to lying about an Iraq War story he'd told for years. He was suspended without pay for six months but eventually returned as an anchor for MSNBC, NBC's left-wing cable affiliate.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
He's dead wrong.................fairness has nothing to do with anything here.......

You need to hear all sides in order to them come up with a passage way towards the truth where the evidence, claims and opinions then correspond with reality.

Its impossible to see reality from just getting one side or one source of a situation without having the opportunity to scrutinize it....................
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
"I think it’s become clear that fairness is overrated ... the idea that we should always give two sides equal weight and merit does not reflect the world we find ourselves in," Holt said on Tuesday night while accepting an award at the 45th Murrow Symposium.
AMAZING the hubris of this one.

"We don't need to consider alternatives 'because of the world we find ourselves in.'" Maybe we find ourselves in this world BECAUSE alternatives are not considered? Or ruled "incredible" on the basis of one view alone?

And accepting a Murrow Award? That alone speaks volumes about the "agenda."

I like the computer - one can examine ANY viewpoint within reach of the Internet. Unlike MSM.

Dobbin
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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You need to hear all sides in order to them [sic] come up with a passage way [sic] towards the truth where the evidence, claims and opinions then correspond with reality.

Its impossible to see reality from just getting one side or one source of a situation without having the opportunity to scrutinize it.
What he’s saying is effectively that THEY will tell US what to think and why to think it. WE are not to question THEM, because their Big Brains™ Know so much more than we do. So STFU and do what you’re told.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What he’s saying is effectively that THEY will tell US what to think and why to think it. WE are not to question THEM, because their Big Brains™ Know so much more than we do. So STFU and do what you’re told.

I'll bet Lester the pester can jump into his pants with both legs at one time too!.................LOL.....
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
He reflects on his attitude of where he finds himself today. They feel they are in the catbird seat for the moment, remember Them well....... :kaid:
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
Yeah, that's part of the Liar's Club Doctrine...
Make their job easier to hide the truth...
Lying is just sinful as murder and theft...
I hate it...
 

Techwreck

Veteran Member
So any truth seeking investigative journalist would have no place in the narrative creation business that used to be the news media?

I've heard that you can avoid reality, but not the consequences of avoiding reality.

Empire of China purchased lies and liars.
 

The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just proves it's all about power.

When they aren't calling ALL the shots, why, it's "speak truth to power", "let's hear all sides and have a conversation".

Then when they feel they have control over the narrative, surprise! Fairness is overrated.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Walking pompous hemorrhoid masquerading as a ‘journalist’. He thinks his opinion actually means something and is so bold he comes right out and tells you that they decide what the truth is and what you need to be told. And they are so arrogant that they can’t see that they themselves are the reason legacy media is tanking.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
All the way from "The truth lies somewhere in the middle" (which is BS, truth is an absolute) to "The truth is whatever we say it is" in one giant leap. Wow.
 

jward

passin' thru
Amazing how much truth slips out from betweenst their forked tongues when they think they're making an argument for their own case.

What they forget, conveniently, is that one reason it's so easy to convert malleable student age folk to their POV is that those kids don't have the life experience to know that the systems are flawed, but they do have an inherent sense of right and wrong and a core belief that life should be fair.

Start jiggering with that and oops. Now YOU are the unfair oppressor and you've lost us :: shrug ::
Not my monkeys, Not my circus, but I must admit I'm growing fond of the free entertainment and salted nuts :: shake head ::
 
I like the computer - one can examine ANY viewpoint within reach of the Internet. Unlike MSM.
I do this frequently. When the dust settles, I usually find that the left is lying. Climate change, voting fraud, HCQ/IVM, vaccines, probably ozone depletion, the list goes on.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Video at link - Dennis


www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-lester-holt-fairness

Tucker Carlson on NBC anchor Lester Holt's 'grotesque' idea of media fairness

David Rutz
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Tucker Carlson blasted NBC News anchor Lester Holt Thursday for encouraging journalists to not commit to "fairness" in the name of combating misinformation, calling it "demented" and the opposite of what journalism should be.

While accepting a media award Tuesday, Holt said the notion of giving two sides "equal weight" was outdated, in what critics called a clear dogwhistle to liberal media members.

"They're grotesque," Carlson said of Holt's comments on "Outnumbered." "Fairness is never overrated ... If you don't strive to be fair, you are certain to commit moral atrocities, but again, not just true for network newsreaders. By the way, when did newsreaders become philosophers? I think Lester Holt seems like a perfectly nice guy, but you don't turn to Lester Holt for deepthink. The truth is, he's saying that we know what we know, and we shouldn't question it, when in fact the reality of life suggests that's completely wrong."

Holt received praise from liberal reporters like CNN's John Harwood and Brian Stelter for his comments. Left-leaning outlets in recent months have increasingly called for silencing opposing views in the name of combating misinformation, while ignoring biases and misinformation in their own ranks.

The "Tucker Carlson Tonight" host said Holt's viewpoint was arrogant, given there are plenty of things people may think they know but actually don't.

"We, for thousands of years, imagined that the sun revolved around the Earth," he said. "The point of journalism is to continuously press against what we think we know, demand evidence, and show it to the public. It's not to affirm what the ruling class declares, which is basically what he's saying. It's demented, actually."

Essentially, Carlson argued, Holt and other elite reporters' worldview was to "make the other side shut up" and run interference for the world's most powerful people.

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"That's like a perfect inversion of what journalism is supposed to be. It's supposed to, in the famous formulation, make the powerful uncomfortable and comfort the afflicted. But that's the opposite of what it does," he said. "They take the weakest people in our society and they hurt them, and then they suck up to the most powerful. That's why everyone hates them, and for good reason."
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
I have to agree with that. In our current fascist woke culture, truth no longer matters.

“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.”
― Benjamin Franklin


Not only do we have somewhere around 80 million voters who are ignorant

... by their rejecting even considering truth, facts or evidence disproving their dogma so they can learn the truth

They doom us all to the consequences of their ignorance
 

jward

passin' thru
I'd go a step further than Tucker and suggest it is all grotesque. The whole industry is toxic, and like politics, merely playing at having a "them" and "us" division in order to fleece we innocent rubes of our assets: time, energy, money- and to herd us into convenient little cattle chutes, in order to deliver us to convenient little predetermined boxes.

Um, no thanks.
 
The left frequently mentions our side. Usually including “without evidence”, or makes some insulting description of the source of these supposed “facts”.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Spoken like a true Commie. Holt must be proud. A black man telling us what we should think. You will be remembered.

The fact these people openly show there hate for us anymore ... is obvious what the game plan is.

REMEMBER EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.

What goes around comes around
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
I had rules for my kids when they were much younger; 1) never draw to an inside straight 2) imported beer always tastes better 3) NO MAN OR WOMAN IS WORTH THE HELL YOU GO THROUGH FOR THEM! My daughter had a separate rule; never, under any circumstances, walk past a group of construction workers. And when they were old enough to hear the word i told the Prime Rule; Remember, THE BASTARDS ARE LYING TO YOU!
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
That slow low rumble they heard in the auditorium when he picked up that award was the body of Ol' Ed starting to turn in his grave.

By now he should be up to about 1K RPMs and a high thin whine.
 
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