RACE Nashville officer Josh Baker stable after surgery, female suspect Nikah Holbert killed in shootout during traffic stop.

The Snack Artist

Membership Revoked
Just curious, but what was she pulled over for in the first place? And in light of all the racial B.S. going down these days I would ALWAYS call for immediate backup and an additional K-9 unit. Dogs are your best friend and the fiends seriously fear them.
Have to think the cop ran the plate and came up with boyfriend. Warrants means he stops the car because he has no idea who's driving it.
She probably has warrants as well. Even if she didn't, you don't pull a gun on a cop if you're clean. She's been around no doubt.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Would YOU live in that world? I would not. It's a new plantation the (d)s put them on. Now they can't and won't get off it. The yoke around their necks is very heavy. They have no clue as to what's holding them down.


In a SHTF scenario, you can expect the skill-less masses to revert to savagery. Similarly, the suburban and affluent whites will be driven to desperation.

A big problem with both the poor and the highly-educated, affluent population is a lack of practical skills. Many, if not most doctors and lawyers are so specialized that they can't do much of anything outside of their field of expertise. Their education and experience tends to be extremely myopic.

At the other end of the spectrum, the desperately poor often lack practical skills (though they tend to have street smarts) and suffer from low intelligence. This is why people like auto mechanics - even if they're not very good - can be almost revered in certain poor neighborhoods. Amongst the poor, those with practical skills - like butchers, barbers and those in skilled trades - are usually held in higher regard than they would be in wealthier areas.

I think interesting - and very hard and dangerous - times lie ahead.

Best
Doc
 

bassgirl

Veteran Member
This will keep happening because now they think they get a pass. That’s essentially what the media has done for them and all the riot coverage had done.

Now they resist even harder and it turns out bad. This cop is going to get raked over the coals. Especially since we are picking Floyd’s jury now.
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
Once one loses or never gets control over a suspect, its inevitable that resistance will happen. This officer should have never given her the chance to grab the purse, get behind the wheel of that car or draw a weapon. He has no one to blame but himself. He earned that wound by not having even the remotest control of the situation. This sheboon, knew this and took advantage of that fact. Once less lethal fails to stop a suspect. It immediately becomes a lethal use of force issue. Getting behind the wheel of her vehicle makes it a lethal force issue, not only for the officer but also of any bystander. Shw should been shot 10 seconds before he ever drew his weapon. Fear and hesitation will get one killed. Prey knows the sheepdog has no teeth.
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Have to think the cop ran the plate and came up with boyfriend. Warrants means he stops the car because he has no idea who's driving it.
She probably has warrants as well. Even if she didn't, you don't pull a gun on a cop if you're clean. She's been around no doubt.

she didnt seem to care when he pulled a baggie (weed) from her purse
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
In Atlanta after a black man took over as police chief last year---

well, last Sunday's AJC had an article about how the police are asking people "PLEASE to be NICE to one another."

No kidding.

And shootings have gone up drastically.

Mostly black on black.

Leave that alone & the problem will solve itself.

It’s in their blood. They enslaved themselves and killed off the weakest tribes.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Once one loses or never gets control over a suspect, its inevitable that resistance will happen. This officer should have never given her the chance to grab the purse, get behind the wheel of that car or draw a weapon. He has no one to blame but himself. He earned that wound by not having even the remotest control of the situation. This sheboon, knew this and took advantage of that fact. Once less lethal fails to stop a suspect. It immediately becomes a lethal use of force issue. Getting behind the wheel of her vehicle makes it a lethal force issue, not only for the officer but also of any bystander. Shw should been shot 10 seconds before he ever drew his weapon. Fear and hesitation will get one killed. Prey knows the sheepdog has no teeth.

I don't know what justification there is for a police officer to shoot a civilian that has not produced a weapon.

In hindsight, there were likely a number of mistakes made.

When the vehicle came back with multiple felony warrants, backup should have been dispatched before the stop was even made. At the least, single person patrols and stops just don't cut it anymore. But again, the owner of this vehicle came back with multiple outstanding warrants, That should have been a Red Flaming Red Flag.

Regardless of the fact that a female, not matching the description of the warrants, was initially encountered ignores the possibility that the male suspect could have been hiding inside the passenger compartment or trunk of the suspect vehicle.

Once the suspect became uncooperative and less than lethal force proved ineffective, the only alternative was physical restraint. This will almost always require multiple officers. The more the better for everyone's safety. Grappling with a 200 - 300 pound suspect is serious business regardless of gender. A single officer just doesn't cut it.

Again, in hindsight, the female should have had her purse taken away from her.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
In Atlanta after a black man took over as police chief last year---

well, last Sunday's AJC had an article about how the police are asking people "PLEASE to be NICE to one another."

No kidding.

And shootings have gone up drastically.

Mostly black on black.

Leave that alone & the problem will solve itself.

As I have stated many times on this board,
I grew up in an area of my hometown,
that was next to the largest “African town”
in the area.

In this post, Africans=dreaded “N-words”

I had to learn how to exist in the same areas
as the Africans, and how to deal with them,
in order to simply survive. Many fights, my White honky arse
got beaten, however I learned how to fight, and developed a
really good spinning back fist, that sent most Africans to the ground.
I became known as a “bad arse White boy”,
and they stayed out of my path.

I recall a very old black lady, she has been dead now for many decades,
tell me,“let the “n-words be”. She used the dreaded “n-word”.
She said, that they would simply bring an end to themselves,
due to their lifestyles.

Remember, until the POS 1964 Civil Rights Act,
the POS Africans, were mostly kept under control by
the good Blacks. Of course, all of those controls are now gone,
and you are seeing the end result, of the removal of those controls.

The good and bad exist in the three races, however the delineation
between the good and the bad in the African race, is very extreme.
This is because of The Stone Age Tribal Jungle Culture that
has controlled how most Africans exist, not only in the jungles of Africa
but anywhere on Planet Earth. This is the reason that no matter their location, absolute violence, destruction and mayhem exist.
Check out what is going on down in Brazil. They have it far worse than
we do here, as most of the African slaves were sent to Brazil.

At one time after World War II, there was nearly parity in the
African race between the good and bad. However that parity
is non-existent today, with the good being only 3 percent,
and the 97 percent that is now the bad, and it is getting worse
with each passing day. Eventually simply due to their ages,
the good Africans, the Blacks, will simply disappear.

Now there are entire areas of major metro areas that are
“no go zones” for White peoples, and even LEO.

The racial powder house, that I have spoken about many
times on this board, is going to explode this summer,
IMHO there is nothing that can stop it.

Please be safe everyone. There is no more time left.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Trouble

Veteran Member
I don't know what justification there is for a police officer to shoot a civilian that has not produced a weapon.

In hindsight, there were likely a number of mistakes made.

When the vehicle came back with multiple felony warrants, backup should have been dispatched before the stop was even made. At the least, single person patrols and stops just don't cut it anymore. But again, the owner of this vehicle came back with multiple outstanding warrants, That should have been a Red Flaming Red Flag.

Regardless of the fact that a female, not matching the description of the warrants, was initially encountered ignores the possibility that the male suspect could have been hiding inside the passenger compartment or trunk of the suspect vehicle.

Once the suspect became uncooperative and less than lethal force proved ineffective, the only alternative was physical restraint. This will almost always require multiple officers. The more the better for everyone's safety. Grappling with a 200 - 300 pound suspect is serious business regardless of gender. A single officer just doesn't cut it.

Again, in hindsight, the female should have had her purse taken away from her.
I spent 15yrs un uniform, if a suspect required less than lethal and that ultimately failed. That then upped the level of force that was able to be used. As it increases the level of threat to the officer. It's called the force continuum. In his physical shape he was at a huge disadvantage in trying to physically restrain this suspect. Once she grabbed the purse she should have been immediately tazed, no question. By allowing her to access the vehicle interior, it upped her threat level to a lethal threat level.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
People keep suggesting the police should be running with two officers in the vehicle. But do they have the budget to do that? I suspect they don't; probably didn't before all this 'defund the police' garbage started, and even less so now.

Kathleen
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
People keep suggesting the police should be running with two officers in the vehicle. But do they have the budget to do that? I suspect they don't; probably didn't before all this 'defund the police' garbage started, and even less so now.

Kathleen

The new Civil Rights Act 2, is going to address the issues of policing
regarding the African race, as I have discussed in many threads
on this board.

This incident, as well as most other incidents involving White LEO
and African suspects, simply will not occur under Civil Rights Act 2.

Only African LEO, will be involved in policing the African race,
as has been a demand by mostly radical Africans, since the 1960's.

Their ultimate demand, as was stated by the new Black Panther Party
a couple of years ago, is their own nation. I remember watching
the youtube, of the press conference, where they indicated several
states being given to them. They said, "you don't want us, and we
don't want you" Florida was mentioned, I don't recall the other states.

After listening to urban talk radio for several years, I can tell you,
that they view the entirety of the European culture that is the ZUSA,
as being hostile to them, and that is why they will always fight,
why they will always not comply, with lawful orders from an LEO.
Many of them still believe that slavery exists, and that is why they
jump and run from LEO, as they see LEO as being slavery taskmasters.

The best solution of course is what existed before.

SEGREGATION

It existed for many good reasons. It was removed, and now look at this
royally screwed up ZUSA, that is soon to go into a racial civil war.

Just please let the correct side win this time, as we are paying this very day,
for the damned Yankees winning the so called Civil War.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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People keep suggesting the police should be running with two officers in the vehicle. But do they have the budget to do that? I suspect they don't; probably didn't before all this 'defund the police' garbage started, and even less so now.

Kathleen

They’d better find a way, because these days, a lone cop is just cannon fodder.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
They’d better find a way, because these days, a lone cop is just cannon fodder.

Agreed. Which will lead to far less coverage, if they have to double up but don't have funds to hire more warm bodies to put on the streets.

If I was in law enforcement right now and working in a Dem jurisdiction, I would be looking for work elsewhere or seriously considering changing occupations.

Kathleen
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Thousands are

When the festivities finally begin, it is going to be really bad in areas
where LEO are basically hated. They simply won't be there,
and peoples will be on their own.

Memorial Day. That's not that far off, and with the George Floyd trial,
and nearly everyday now, some other POS African fighting LEO and
ending up deaded, nothing can stop what is coming.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 
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We watched the video, wife was warming up to “cop shooting poor black woman”, then the gun was mentioned and the cop was shot as well. Not a peep from her after that.
 
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