ALERT Multiple fires and evacuations in North SF Bay Area

Red Baron

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Housecarl said:
Just a note....the old local SF Bay Area radio stations that used to have live morning shows and now are using syndicated shows are still playing the syndicated ones and not breaking in with local reporting...there's no staff left at them to do it.
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For people in vehicles, radio is still an important source of real time emergency information.

In Milwaukee and Chicago I have heard major radio stations being very slow to broadcast emergency weather information when a baseball game is in progress.
 
Blacknarwhal

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Housecarl said:
Just a note....the old local SF Bay Area radio stations that used to have live morning shows and now are using syndicated shows are still playing the syndicated ones and not breaking in with local reporting...there's no staff left at them to do it.
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Ah, automation. A wonderful cost-saving move as long as absolutely nothing unexpected happens ever.
 
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That's sad, HC. No more live staff reporting? DH & I were just talking about that yesterday (left for another day)....

This, though is possibly life-threatening. Hear that Novato fire is now 50 acres but the crews have gone up to Sonoma, so there is nothing being done to contain it. For those not familiar with the area, Novato is in Marin, directly north of San Francisco.

Are people getting the news from the local TV stations, though? That won't help people driving through, though.
 
mzkitty

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Wow.....


Breaking News‏ @BreakingNGlobal 4m4 minutes ago

#BREAKING: 50+ buildings destroyed, air rescues underway in #NapaValley as the #NapaFire grows to nearly 38,000 acres.


BreakingNNow‏ @BreakingNNow 28s28 seconds ago

#BREAKING: This neighbourhood near Dogwood & Sweetgum in Santa Rosa has been destroyed. (Photo by @amyhollyfield) #SantaRosa
 

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BinWa

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We have a family home in Santa Rosa. Neighbors called and said they were evacuated around 4am. I don’t know how to find out information on a specific area to know if the house is still standing.
 
Bubble Head

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We are on the phone with family now. They are just east of the mandatory fire line. The fire appears to be moving West. Hard for me to visualize that if embers are falling in Berkeley.
 
bev

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Son and DIL live/work about an hour south/southeast of these fires and report lots of smoke even that far away. Son says they have no idea how they started, and they are ZERO percent contained.

Praying.
 
Bubble Head

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Thank you annieosage. That is some pretty country. Sounds like it drops off Donner Pass.

I am a simple minded person. When somebody says they are going to burn me, or shoot me, or cut my head off I take it literally and act accordingly. On the surface this is no act of nature. Not trying to start woo on this thread but the threat has been made and people have been caught starting fires in the past.
 
Be Well

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jward said:
Yes, multiple fires in multiple locations demands one rule out man-made causes. Sounds like mother nature provided the perfect conditions, too, though.
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I don't see that it rules out man caused. A bunch of jihadis/others with road flares, driving around on a windy night, coordinated. There were no storms with lightning. So what else caused these multiple fires all at the same time, at night? During the day sometimes machinery can start a spark, but much less likely at night, all at the same general time, in multiple locations.
 
Bubble Head

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Power lines in high winds are the most common cause of fires. Limbs blow into them or sometimes they just snap and spark when they hit the ground. Can't be ruled out. The report that caught my attention was the fires seemed to start in 5 different locations. That does not sound natural.
 
packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
Be Well said:
I don't see that it rules out man caused. A bunch of jihadis/others with road flares, driving around on a windy night, coordinated. There were no storms with lightning. So what else caused these multiple fires all at the same time, at night? During the day sometimes machinery can start a spark, but much less likely at night, all at the same general time, in multiple locations.
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How about we start a second thread for the conspiracy it was a terrorist stuff? I have family and friends in the effected area and would like to know what the heck is going on w/o reading a bunch of woo!
 
packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
Bubble Head said:
Power lines in high winds are the most common cause of fires. Limbs blow into them or sometimes they just snap and spark when they hit the ground. Can't be ruled out. The report that caught my attention was the fires seemed to start in 5 different locations. That does not sound natural.
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Sure it can be natural. Or are you of the mindset that only one power line in the entire affected area can spark and cause a wild fire? I mean cause you just totally contradicted yourself.
 
packyderms_wife

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Neither here nor there.
BinWa said:
We have a family home in Santa Rosa. Neighbors called and said they were evacuated around 4am. I don’t know how to find out information on a specific area to know if the house is still standing.
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There may be a facebook page up now for the fires, otherwise twitter would be my next source. use a hash tag # before the word santarosa in the search function there.
 
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packyderms_wife said:
How about we start a second thread for the conspiracy it was a terrorist stuff? I have family and friends in the effected area and would like to know what the heck is going on w/o reading a bunch of woo!
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Agree...please take speculation elsewhere. I too have many family members there and trying to figure out what's going on. Watching KTVU
 
Bubble Head

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packyderms_wife said:
Sure it can be natural. Or are you of the mindset that only one power line in the entire affected area can spark and cause a wild fire? I mean cause you just totally contradicted yourself.
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Read my above thread packy. We were on the phone with family that lives on the mandatory evac. line just a little while ago. They are without power but flames are not in their neighborhood. They are not preppers but were thankful I told them to fill their bathtubs with water and know where the shut off valve to their natural gas line is. I am just as concerned as you are but I also want to know if the fires are man made. That could make the fire jump to a different direction than the resources are stationed or evacuation is being done. It is not woo it is relevant. Always know your situation and your limitations.
 
jward

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passin' thru
Be Well said:
I don't see that it rules out man caused. A bunch of jihadis/others with road flares, driving around on a windy night, coordinated. There were no storms with lightning. So what else caused these multiple fires all at the same time, at night? During the day sometimes machinery can start a spark, but much less likely at night, all at the same general time, in multiple locations.
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Poor communication on my part. My point was that when the situation exist where multiple fires in different locations is occurring, one must consider the possibility they were intentionally set, until man made causes are ruled out.

Personally I'd say the only thing we don't know is which group is behind it.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Bubble Head said:
I also want to know if the fires are man made. That could make the fire jump to a different direction than the resources are stationed or evacuation is being done.
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This makes no sense at all.

the wind itself will cause the fires to jump, whether the fires are manmade or not. A hot ember can travel five miles or more and land elsewhere and start another fire. You can watch videos of the Fort MacMurray fires to see how this can be true.
 
jward

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passin' thru
packyderms_wife said:
How about we start a second thread for the conspiracy it was a terrorist stuff? I have family and friends in the effected area and would like to know what the heck is going on w/o reading a bunch of woo!
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Figuring out the cause isn't conspiracy. In fact, it is a critical piece, often, of figuring out whether the threat is contained or likely to spread etc.
 
Bubble Head

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packyderms_wife said:
Sure it can be natural. Or are you of the mindset that only one power line in the entire affected area can spark and cause a wild fire? I mean cause you just totally contradicted yourself.
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I did not contradict myself I just made a point of two plausible explanations. Sure lines can go down but normally they go down in one location. Once any fire gets going in winds it can throw embers for miles and start other fires. I don't have anymore answers than you and just as worried about the situation as you. If they are man made I want to know. You can suit yourself as to what you want to know.
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
Pete Wilgoren‏ @WILGOREN 2m2 minutes ago

#BREAKING @RICKatFOX reporting big plumes of smoke and that fire may have jumped the 241 toll road in the Anaheim area @FOXLA


Tim Jue‏ @timjue 2m2 minutes ago

All commercial flights on UA/AS/AA to/from Sonoma County, CA airport @Fly_STS cancelled because of wildfires in N. California. #breaking


Marcus Washington‏ @MarcusNBC 2m2 minutes ago

#BREAKING : One confirmed death in Mendocino County and two persons with serious injuries.
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
Mario Ramirez‏Verified account @MarioFOXLA 4m4 minutes ago

Traffic driving through smoke from brush fire near the 91 freeway in Anaheim Hills. @FOXLA #Breaking


CNN Breaking News‏Verified account @cnnbrk 8m8 minutes ago

State of emergency declared as three fast-moving wildfires totaling 44,000 acres burn north of Napa, California http://cnn.it/2wHDAJc
 

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Warm Wisconsin

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Easy as 3.141592653589..
Bubble Head said:
The only California Anaheim I am familiar with is by LA. There could be more than one Anaheim CA. If a new fire started outside of LA that would be a very interesting development.
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The fire is in Anaheim,CA. There are photos on twitter of the smoke at Disney Land.
 
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