LEGAL More ON The Megaupload Take Down Dispute

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Publius

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Well, I just seen this had to check it out and it looks like there is way more to this than music industry and government is willing to tell us. Below are links that will tell you a different story and you get the idea that the recording labels in the digital age has out lived its usefulness and trying to take back what they think belongs to them only. They are trying to brand Magaupload a Rogue Label.:shr:

http://torrentfreak.com/universal-censors-megaupload-song-gets-branded-a-rogue-label-111210



http://WWW.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Wvn-9BXVc
 
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Publius

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Makes me wonder just how much the FBIs/government involvement with inditement was made up or fabricated to get conviction's in favor of the music labels? Just how much of a bribe did it take?
 
Carl2

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Publius said:
Makes me wonder just how much the FBIs/government involvement with inditement was made up or fabricated to get conviction's in favor of the music labels? Just how much of a bribe did it take?
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The Senators sponsoring the SOPA bill that has just been set aside temporarily received between $250,000 and $1,750,000 in contributions from the entertainment industry--apiece. The FED's went ahead and put that outfit Megaupload out of business without the SOPA law on questionable legal authority. We are seeing government at all levels starting to completely disregard the law.
 
Normallguy

Normallguy

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Megaupload is just a small part of the data deleted and sites effected. Here an update of who else folded this weekend.

- MegaUpload - Closed.
- FileServe - Closed. Does not sell premium.
- FileJungle - Deleting files. Locked in the U.S..
- UploadStation - Deleting accounts. Locked in US.
- FileSonic - the news is arbitrary (under FBI investigation).
- Uploading.com - Deleting accounts.
- VideoBB - Closed! would disappear soon.
- Uploaded - Banned U.S. and the FBI went after the owners who are gone.
- FilePost - Deleting all material (so will leave executables, pdfs, txts)
- Videoz - closed and locked in the countries affiliated with the USA.
- 4shared - Deleting files with copyright and waits in line at the FBI.
- MediaFire - Called to testify in the next 90 days and it will open doors pro FBI
-Org torrent - could vanish with everything within 30 days "he is under criminal investigation"
- Network Share mIRC - awaiting the decision of the case to continue or terminate Torrente everything.
- Koshiki - operating 100% Japan will not join the SOUP / PIPA
- Shienko Box - 100% working china / korea will not join the SOUP / PIPA
- ShareX BR - group UOL / BOL / iG say they will join the SOUP / PIPA

Whether you approve or disapprove of "file sharing" this is an issue.
The amount of control the Gov. just used (one DDL site), and the results, Substantial; Terabytes gone, major part of US data exchange removed.
SOPA who needs it.............. we can just do this.:shk:

Jeff
 
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OddOne

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Phil DeFranco, the vlogger on Youtube, had an interesting point about Megaupload:

Its creator was working on a cloud-based legitimate music purchase-and-play-anywhere service called Megabox that would give the vast majority of purchase prices to the artists. Megaupload has like 50 million users, which would be one hell of a from-day-one userbase for the music service, perhaps enough to challenge iTunes.

The interesting point:

Could the Megaupload shutdown by the goobermint really have been egged on by (terrified) major entertainment-industry players, in an attempt to cut the head off a potentially devastating competitor before it could become a threat?
 
LoupGarou

LoupGarou

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OddOne said:
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The interesting point:

Could the Megaupload shutdown by the goobermint really have been egged on by (terrified) major entertainment-industry players, in an attempt to cut the head off a potentially devastating competitor before it could become a threat?
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I would bet on it. Although post #6 does make me think that this rabbit hole is more like a mansion. I'm thinking data collection for later "use" against "specific persons of interest".

But I would also bet that ACTA has been their main reason (and goal) since the beginning. Their goal is to allow our (global) companies, and the rest of the world's IP to be put on a pedestal above anything that the American inventors create. It's a treaty that if we agree to it, we will be signing our doom. It will definitely neuter any IP creativity here in the US, giving the rest of the world all of the benefits, while we pay for it all in more ways than one.

Loup
 
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Publius

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OddOne said:
Phil DeFranco, the vlogger on Youtube, had an interesting point about Megaupload:

Its creator was working on a cloud-based legitimate music purchase-and-play-anywhere service called Megabox that would give the vast majority of purchase prices to the artists. Megaupload has like 50 million users, which would be one hell of a from-day-one userbase for the music service, perhaps enough to challenge iTunes.

The interesting point:

Could the Megaupload shutdown by the goobermint really have been egged on by (terrified) major entertainment-industry players, in an attempt to cut the head off a potentially devastating competitor before it could become a threat?
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Really looks that way as these old but big record labels are acting more like the Mob/gangsters and many of the new artists are using their computers to make their own albums and going sites like Magaupload to sell it and have a bigger slice of the pie than they would with these old record labels or just post let people hear their message for free.
 
LoupGarou

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The bigger question is: Is it the record labels that are worried, or is it the lawyer groups (MPAA, RIAA...)?

IF a site existed like "Megabox", the artists could go and directly sell from that site, keeping a MUCH bigger percentage for themselves. It would cut out both the labels, and the lawyers. Something I would LOVE to see happen.

Loup
 
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Y6K

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OddOne said:
Phil DeFranco, the vlogger on Youtube, had an interesting point about Megaupload:

Its creator was working on a cloud-based legitimate music purchase-and-play-anywhere service called Megabox that would give the vast majority of purchase prices to the artists. Megaupload has like 50 million users, which would be one hell of a from-day-one userbase for the music service, perhaps enough to challenge iTunes.

The interesting point:

Could the Megaupload shutdown by the goobermint really have been egged on by (terrified) major entertainment-industry players, in an attempt to cut the head off a potentially devastating competitor before it could become a threat?
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Very likely. Perhaps that is why they went after MegaUpload while leaving RapidShare alone.
 
LoupGarou

LoupGarou

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Y6K said:
Very likely. Perhaps that is why they went after MegaUpload while leaving RapidShare alone.
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From what I have heard, MegaUpload's servers were here in the US. I don't know where the others were being run from.
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I have also heard that Brazil, China, India, Japan, Korea (both of them), and Russia are all REFUSING to sign ACTA or any similar legislation into law. This should show everybody why WE should not sign it either, since we will do so at our peril.

Loup
 
Satanta

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Has anyone noticed any effect on Youtube?

Reason I asked is I do a lot of reading on Cracked.com and their pages always contain Youtube links and at least 95% of those links now say either the file/user was removed for a variety of reasons such as 'Account closed' and copyright complaints from XYZ studio.
 
Vicki

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LoupGarou said:
The bigger question is: Is it the record labels that are worried, or is it the lawyer groups (MPAA, RIAA...)?

IF a site existed like "Megabox", the artists could go and directly sell from that site, keeping a MUCH bigger percentage for themselves. It would cut out both the labels, and the lawyers. Something I would LOVE to see happen.

Loup
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Me too, me too and something I'd like to become part of. Been picking up my guitar again and dusted off the recording equipment. Hopefully by spring I'll have some new finished products. It would be awesome to have someplace to put them.
 
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Publius

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Vicki said:
Me too, me too and something I'd like to become part of. Been picking up my guitar again and dusted off the recording equipment. Hopefully by spring I'll have some new finished products. It would be awesome to have someplace to put them.
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You may want to copy-write your work just in case these thugs try and claim it as theirs.
 
LoupGarou

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
Vicki said:
Me too, me too and something I'd like to become part of. Been picking up my guitar again and dusted off the recording equipment. Hopefully by spring I'll have some new finished products. It would be awesome to have someplace to put them.
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I'm just wondering why we can't come up with our own system to be able to get "grass roots" artists out to the public?...

Mix in a new file format just on the file sharing end, so that we know that each song/video is a private creation BY that user, encrypt it up to the server, and have two versions that can be accessed on the server. The first version is low quality (around FM radio quality, but with a little embedded background static) but will play for free. The second version that is only for sale, and is released only after the data in the song is serialized with a hash of both one of the artist's subkeys, and one of the purchaser's subkeys. This will permanently link the high quality song to the two people, and make it so that if they copied it or gave it out, it could be tracked.

It would require us to make the server, the service, a few encrypted core CODECS, and a few other things, but that would not be too bad considering that if it worked well, the ROI would be quick, and the profits for the artists would be much larger.

Just thinking about the possibilities...

Loup
 
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LoupGarou said:
The bigger question is: Is it the record labels that are worried, or is it the lawyer groups (MPAA, RIAA...)?

IF a site existed like "Megabox", the artists could go and directly sell from that site, keeping a MUCH bigger percentage for themselves. It would cut out both the labels, and the lawyers. Something I would LOVE to see happen.

Loup
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This I believe is the closest thing to the truth. In a society where an average working class person like myself has to have 2 attorneys now on retainer it's gotten out of hand. The legal gooberment system needs to be eradicated post haste
 
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