SOFT NEWS Mom-of-four, 45, disappears in frozen Alaska river after she swam under the ice to save her rescue dog

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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The search will resume at first light for the body of an Alaskan mom-of-four who disappeared while swimming under the ice of a frozen river in a desperate bid to save her drowning dog.

Amanda Richmond Rogers, 45, was hiking north of Anchorage with her dog Groot and her husband Brian Rogers on December 23 - their 18th wedding anniversary.

Groot fell through a small hole in the ice of the frozen Eagle River after stopping to take a drink, and first Brian, and then Amanda followed it into the water.

'She did not jump in to save 'just a dog', it was a family member,' Rogers, 49, said in a statement.

'To me and our four boys she died a hero.'




Rescuers have risked their own lives to try and find the missing mother in the Eagle River






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Relatives were heading to the family's home nearby for the first Christmas since the death of her father earlier this year.

The couple had dropped in on friends along the route of the North Fork Eagle River Trailhead and were having an 'amazing time' in one of Amanda's favorite places, Rogers said.

But their joy turned to horror when their beloved Irish Wolfhound toppled through the hole, and they dashed across the ice.

'I thought I saw a flash of a big white paw underneath the ice,' Rogers said.

'Before even thinking, I was jumping into the water to save our dog. I held onto the edge of the ice as I frantically ducked under the ice reaching into darkness trying to feel and grab our dog.

'I felt nothing. I ran out of breath and jumped out of the opening.

'I took four steps downstream to look for the dog through the ice again. I turned around and Amanda was getting into the water.

'I knew from the look on her face she was going in to save our dog.

'She is an emergency room nurse, trained to help and save people. I yelled but doubt she even heard me as she was completely concentrating on saving the dog.

'Before I could get back to the opening to try and grab her I could see her swimming downstream under the ice and then out of sight.


The brutal Arctic weather has hampered even the experienced search and rescue teams

Search efforts will resume at first light with underwater drones and sonar equipment
'I waited and waited and am still waiting.

'To anyone wondering why we would jump in to save our dog I can only answer, our instincts took over and we went in without thought.'

Alaska State Troopers, the state's Dive Search, Rescue, and Recovery Team, the Solstice Search, and the Alaska Wildlife Troopers have all been helping in the search since the alarm was raised early on Saturday afternoon.

Some rescuers had to halt their efforts early on Tuesday after equipment froze up in the bitter Arctic weather, and underwater drones, sonar equipment and specialist rescue dogs will be deployed when the search resumes on Wednesday.

'It is certainly a tragic event for the family, our thoughts are with them, especially with the closeness to the Christmas holiday,' Austin McDaniel of the Alaska State Troopers, said.

'But our focus is finding the missing woman so the family can have some closure.'

The couple met when they were both working as medics in Texas but made their permanent home in Alaska when Rogers was deployed there by the Air Force.

'Amanda loved her dogs nearly as much as our kids, they were our family,' he said.

'We have a room in our house dedicated to the memory of all our previous dogs. We have tattoos of our dog's paws.

'Amanda has around 35 thousand photos and videos on her phone from our 18 years of marriage and a majority of them of our dogs.'

Rogers said he was overwhelmed by the 'incredible' support his family has received from their community, and that they are 'blessed to live in such a special place'.

'Amanda was an amazing mother and has raised four tremendous children,' he added.

'She worked as an emergency room nurse, a death scene investigator and a pediatric hospice nurse but the job she excelled at was mom.

The dog too remains missing despite both its owners risking their lives to save it

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The dog too remains missing despite both its owners risking their lives to save it

'She enjoyed the outdoors, her family, all animals, and adventure. She has touched so many people's lives for the better. I could go on and on and on.'

Her sister Jennifer said Amanda would be remembered for her kindness.

'Her sons were everything to her,' she added.

The dog has not been found.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Yeah. Don't do that.
Thin ice - especially for gawd's sake on a river - and dogs, or any kind of livestock....just keep them away. Prevention IS the cure here.

These kinds of scenarios - a person has to anticipate, and think through the rational reaction before it ever happens. A dog's life is not worth a human's life in a rational mind. Something people need to settle on before they are mentally challenged and emotionally turned by a real situation.
 
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Elza

Veteran Member
I'll take some heat I'm sure but I do have an answer for situations like this. Keep the dog on a lead at all times. Period. People let their dogs run loose and then whine and cry because something bad happens to the dog. Keep them contained or on lead and these things won't happen. And yes, Virginia, I practice what I preach. My dogs are in the house, in a properly fenced yard, or on lead. Because Lilly likes to dig one of us is outside with her at all times. Take proper care of your animals and the chances of bad things happening are vastly reduced.

Feel free to flame away.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
I'll take some heat I'm sure but I do have an answer for situations like this. Keep the dog on a lead at all times. Period. People let their dogs run loose and then whine and cry because something bad happens to the dog. Keep them contained or on lead and these things won't happen. And yes, Virginia, I practice what I preach. My dogs are in the house, in a properly fenced yard, or on lead. Because Lilly likes to dig one of us is outside with her at all times. Take proper care of your animals and the chances of bad things happening are vastly reduced.

Feel free to flame away.
No flame here. When we lived in Alaska we had sled dogs and Karelian Bear dogs. Both love to roam when they are loose.
We always kept them contained to keep them off trappers trap lines, out of the river that we crossed a lot in the winter and boated to town often during the summers. I had the talks with my kids about dogs and snow machines breaking through the ice. Let them go dint try to save them.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I'll take some heat I'm sure but I do have an answer for situations like this. Keep the dog on a lead at all times. Period. People let their dogs run loose and then whine and cry because something bad happens to the dog. Keep them contained or on lead and these things won't happen. And yes, Virginia, I practice what I preach. My dogs are in the house, in a properly fenced yard, or on lead. Because Lilly likes to dig one of us is outside with her at all times. Take proper care of your animals and the chances of bad things happening are vastly reduced.

Feel free to flame away.

No flames from me. I was going to write something similar. My policy is no dogs I'm responsible for are off-lead around the lake at this time of the year (and the spring), period. We've got thin ice. Just stay on the trails.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Real scientific tests (not garbage) have repeatedly shown that the parts of the brain that are affected by a pet in danger are EXACTLY the same as those hardwired into humans to try and rescue their children. I suspect that with a lot of work, some people can break that connection, just like soldiers and first responders can learn to function in the face of mass death.

But we don't usually expose people to the idea that this can even happen or that it almost certainly WILL happen unless there is some conscious work put into being prepared for such a decision BEFORE it happens. This is also why it is well known that a mother whose small child or infant can not be saved from the fire sometimes has to be tackled by those around her to keep her other children from also becoming Motherless.

Decisions like this happen in a split second (much of the time), and our hardwiring takes over unless there has been a lot of work done to break down that wiring. Stupid and cruel attempts to do so, such as my grandfather wanting to "make a man" out of my father at age four by slaughtering his pet lamb in front of him, tend to backfire. I didn't taste lamb until I was an adult. Yes, it was a great depression, and the family needed food. But the result of trying to break that hardwiring too quickly and too soon did not result in the message intended.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Decisions like this happen in a split second (much of the time), and our hardwiring takes over unless there has been a lot of work done to break down that wiring. Stupid and cruel attempts to do so, such as my grandfather wanting to "make a man" out of my father at age four by slaughtering his pet lamb in front of him, tend to backfire. I didn't taste lamb until I was an adult. Yes, it was a great depression, and the family needed food. But the result of trying to break that hardwiring too quickly and too soon did not result in the message intended.
You must be my brother from another mother, so to speak. Or my cousin.
My grandfather slaughtered my mother's pet goose.
Same thing, great depression.
Neither she nor her two brothers would eat that goose.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
We love our dogs. Just spent a bunch of money having a tumor removed from the last Karelian/Siberian mix that came with from Alaska, all of my family knows that our dogs are family and they get the best care possible but they are also animals and that our lives are more than theirs. All of my kids grew up with us butchering our own meat, trapping, hunting and fishing. Rabbits got butchered, chickens butchered, game animals butchered. They knew the difference. Our hearts break when we have to put our pets down for humane reasons to not let them suffer but we know there is a difference between their life and ours.

Having been a EMT I have taught my kids as much medical stuff as I knew. First and foremost is the Scene Safe? You cant help a person or a animal if you succumb to what took them.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I'll take some heat I'm sure but I do have an answer for situations like this. Keep the dog on a lead at all times. Period. People let their dogs run loose and then whine and cry because something bad happens to the dog. Keep them contained or on lead and these things won't happen. And yes, Virginia, I practice what I preach. My dogs are in the house, in a properly fenced yard, or on lead. Because Lilly likes to dig one of us is outside with her at all times. Take proper care of your animals and the chances of bad things happening are vastly reduced.

Feel free to flame away.

Totally agree!
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
No negative comments from me on this....
Just feel very sad for the surviving family members for the loss of this incredible wife and mother - and to the community for the tragic loss of an experienced ER nurse. I'm sure she's a welcome addition to heaven and will be waiting there watching over them.
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
for living up in AK - I'd thought the both of them would have had more common sense - start to finish >>>

that poor dog deserved better - then the both of them damn near orphaned their kids - that husband can try justifying his wife's actions all he wants - but she dealt with life & death situations almost daily - it's something the first responder types have to be able to judge and make the hard decisions correctly .....
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
A few weeks ago in Duluth, some dipshit let their dog fall/jump into the shipping canal after dark (a nice swell going, notoriously butt-ugly currents in that canal, and water temp probably ~34 degrees) and get carried off, not able to get to shore or climb the seawall. Among all the tourists watching, somebody at least had the sense to call 911 and the Fire Dept. responded. A firefighter jumped into the canal (in insulated flotation Gumby suit) to try to keep the dog's head above water while the rest of the crew launched their rescue watercraft. They managed to pull the firefighter and the dog out, and all was well.

Risking a half-dozen guys lives to go after a dog in the canal - and from what I heard, the firefighters figured they HAD to try to get the dog, otherwise one of the onlookers would have stupidly jumped in after it. Cascading disaster, here we come. You just have to shake your head.

Story and video at link.
 
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et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Can’t help to think … maybe he was more involved. Perfect excuse. As a husband I would have grabbed my wife and threw her to safety before stupid set in.

Just too Perfect
 

ivantherussian03

Veteran Member
Sadly, this happens a lot in Alaska. Mostly when people are traveling, or doing chores and not trying to save a dog. I have known people that went under the ice, heard the gruesome stories of people that saw it unfold. I wont repeat the stories. It is unfortunately it is rather quick when it happen.

i was always careful about my travel, and what I did and didnt do.I always waited till ice was good and frozen. I never carried logs until it was frozen, good and deep. I had my mittens attached with rope, in shoulder holster, probably 6 ft of rope that I could use quickly to save someone if it happened to somebody with me. I knew a young man that died getting firewood. Another man much older, died picking his son traveling on ice to pick his son up at airport. With his last gasp he was able to lift his son out of enough he could get on on the ice. In both cases it was very sad, and left you saying why.
 
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CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'll take some heat I'm sure but I do have an answer for situations like this. Keep the dog on a lead at all times. Period. People let their dogs run loose and then whine and cry because something bad happens to the dog. Keep them contained or on lead and these things won't happen. And yes, Virginia, I practice what I preach. My dogs are in the house, in a properly fenced yard, or on lead. Because Lilly likes to dig one of us is outside with her at all times. Take proper care of your animals and the chances of bad things happening are vastly reduced.

Feel free to flame away.
While this is a bad thing. Lot's of wrong think went into it.

And I totally agree with you. My whole yard is fenced, Frisco doesn't dig out. But my neighbor let's theirs's run loose, which is fine with me, but he runs the road, only time will tell how long he makes it, and he comes and visits Frisco they run the fence together having fun, BUT he has dug in twice. Third times the charm.

It's an even more terrible thing that the animal has to pay for the stupidity of the owner. And the most saddest part of all is the neighbor has his whole yard in chain link, except for one spot where I watch the dog go and come, and he's standing right there.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
@CaryC , were you drunk when you wrote your post? Because I know you’re very educated, but these statements read like a 7-year-old wrote them.
LOL the "theirs's" is what your spell checker said to use. Just following orders.

I had up there, "there's" but thought no this is people so their should be used and it was underlined so did the spell checker. Can't say if the spell checker had been drinking or not.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
She was drowned under the ice long before hypothermia could ever get her.
Hypothermia ain't a bad way to go. Drowning is.
Absolutely! I had a near drowning experience. It is one of the worst ways I can think of to die.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
LOL the "theirs's" is what your spell checker said to use. Just following orders.

I had up there, "there's" but thought no this is people so their should be used and it was underlined so did the spell checker. Can't say if the spell checker had been drinking or not.

shall we take your sentence apart and also diagram it, for fun you know! :groucho:
 
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