SOFT NEWS Mob Mentality, Zombies & Shame?

feralmama

Inactive
There is a website that is currently publishing photos, videos of the Canuck riots. It can be found here: http://mashable.com/2011/06/16/vancouver-2011-tumblr/

This an excerpt of someone's facebook page, I've not included their names; innocent til proven guilty and all that jazz...

"T‎11 bros got arrested, 1 stabbed , 1 taxed, gang beatdown of these fags, got pepper sprayed n tear gas n almost arrested twice . Best night of my lyf

2 hours ago via iPhone ·LikeUnlike ·
■■6 people like this.

Hope we go to the finals next year just so we can smash windows n burn cars again 7 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
■ Hahahahhaaha, you are too ****ing funny bro! **** I got the worlds biggest hangover! How you feelin’? Where’d you guys even kick it

■We chilled at pacific centre smashing shit.


The best night of his lyf? This is the mentality we are going to be up against when TSHTF.


Further along on this website is a posting about Public Shame, which I'm including
for those that can't open links etc:

Public Justice!
No, no, I’m not advocating any sort of violent retribution or vigilante-ism, I’m referring to something much more tame, something that most of us learned was a horrible thing via our mothers:

Being “shamed.”

Yup. It’s something so mild, but when the right person does it, well, it’s one of the worst feelings in the world. The great thing about our current state of complete social media saturation is that we no longer have to rely on that singular person keeping their respective whoever in check, nor do we have to rely on a tight knit “Little House on the Prairie” type of community. No, we have the advantage of a global community.

Can we, as perfect strangers, make those who deserve to feel ashamd actually feel it? In some cases I’m absolutely sure we do. In terms of those other cases… it’s okay if shame doesn’t work because we have an equally powerful alternative:

Regret.

Whether the regret felt is regret for their action, regret being caught, or regret for the ensuing consequences is a moot point: If we can make people regret (in any sense of the word) what happened then it’s a job well done.

So, all rambling aside, I’m directing you all to this blog: http://publicshamingeternus.wordpress.com/

Contribute what you can to what is already there. Add to that page what you can in terms of names and photos (match them up from submission here!). Let’s make sure thoughs who should never forget their actions never do.

Public shame? Private regret? Whatever the outcome, I see both as a positive ending.


Your thoughts?
 

Tygerkittn

Veteran Member
I've been telling people for years that society needs shame as a tool, the schools have eliminated it as an option to keep everyone's "self esteem" up.
There's now a big taboo amongst publicly educated people against inflicting shame, when it's what we all need.
 

feralmama

Inactive
This is an excerpt from the website Public Shaming Eternus which can be found here; http://publicshamingeternus.wordpress.com/

There is a screenshot of this young man's facebook page and the following commentary (I've changed his name to Rioter for our discussion)


However, as everyone can see what you did type you either were there or a moron to even think this was a good idea to post. So, in my pronouncement of my first judgement, I sentence you to public shaming so that whenever “Rioter” is ever typed into google, your name will be forever associated with the Vancouver riots. I will leave it up to your future employer to ask you during your interview whether you were really there or not. Take your chance with that. You’ve been served by Captain Vancouver punk!
 

KKC

Veteran Member
This is an excerpt from the website Public Shaming Eternus which can be found here; http://publicshamingeternus.wordpress.com/

There is a screenshot of this young man's facebook page and the following commentary (I've changed his name to Rioter for our discussion)


However, as everyone can see what you did type you either were there or a moron to even think this was a good idea to post. So, in my pronouncement of my first judgement, I sentence you to public shaming so that whenever “Rioter” is ever typed into google, your name will be forever associated with the Vancouver riots. I will leave it up to your future employer to ask you during your interview whether you were really there or not. Take your chance with that. You’ve been served by Captain Vancouver punk!


Justice served.
 

Straycat

Veteran Member
This assumes that people who behave this way are capable of feeling shame or regret. I doubt they are, or they likely wouldn't have been behaving that way in the first place.
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
Whether it be the mobs in Van, or the "flash mobs" in Boston, Chicago or other American cities, the guilty need to be found and made to pay back the clean up costs, no matter how long it takes. They do these things because they know there will be little or no punishment.
 

feralmama

Inactive
Agreed, but in these days of extensive social networking, and internet sensations where everyone seems to get their 15 minutes of fame; being shunned by your peers might work?

These people are so greedy for celebrity that they have posted pictures and videos and identified themselves as being rioters. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
If the penalties - fines, jail time, public service dressed in orange jumpsuit, standing on sidewalk with a sign - were enforced, then these people who really are guilty will look reaaally stupid (not to their peers probably, but to those who might employ them). Many of those involved were gangbangers who had their masks & pyrotechnica in their pockets ready to go when the call was made, and you could see the ethnic groups attacking different vehicles as if it was a contest to see which group could make the best explosion.

Maybe a stint manually laboring & working in camps in the Arctic with the blackflies and no McDonalds or Timmies or wireless internet, would help them see that they really can be someone, without being attached to an electronic instrument. And civil lawsuits against the guilt must be filed or nothing will work......hit them in the wallet.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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I'm like Garryowen.

You cannot 'shame' them. Fines and such do not work so hurt them. Hurt them badly and leave the kind of scars that will give them nightmares if they even forget to flush the toilet or put the seat down much less burn someones car or tear up someone else' property.

Pain is a wonderful tool.
 
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