ECON Millions of Americans one paycheck away from economic disaster

Doomer Doug

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In the words of Yogi Berra, "It's Dejavu all over again." At any rate, while this certainly isn't news to regular Timebomb denizens, it still highlights how even the "Trump miracle economy," is based on smoke, mirrors, and pot fumes. The link is below. The article is one of the better ones that highlights just how bad the American economy truly is.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...check-away-from-financial-disaster-2019-05-16


Millions of Americans are just one paycheck away from ‘financial disaster’

Published: May 17, 2019 11:08 a.m. ET

Many consumers would turn to dangerous fallback options in order to make ends meet

Missing more than one paycheck is a one-way ticket to financial hardship for nearly half of the country’s workforce.

A new study from NORC at the University of Chicago, an independent social research institution, found that 51% of working adults in the United States would need to access savings to cover necessities if they missed more than one paycheck.

Research from the Federal Reserve found that 4 in 10 Americans couldn’t afford a $400 emergency, and 22% say they expect to forgo payments on some of their bills.

Certain communities were more prone to economic hardship in the event of missing a paycheck. Roughly two-thirds of households earning less than $30,000 annually and Hispanic households would be unable to cover basic living expenses after missing more than one paycheck, the researchers found.


“Even so, notable differences remain across race, ethnicity, education groups, and locations and many individuals still struggle to repay college loans, handle small emergency expenses, and manage retirement savings,” it added.

The findings were based on a survey of more than 1,000 adults. The researchers interviewed a nationally representative panel designed to be indicative of the U.S. population.


The survey provides a sobering look at Americans’ precarious finances even as the economy is improving, jobs are more plentiful and the stock market has — despite this week’s volatility — generally continued its upward trajectory this year.

Prosperity Now says too many families are either struggling to make ends meet, ‘or are just one emergency away from a financial disaster.’

Prosperity Now, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank focused on expanding economic opportunity for low-income Americans, said 40% of U.S. households lack a basic level of savings.

These “liquid asset poor” households don’t even have enough savings to live at the poverty level for three months if their income was interrupted.

The data is even worse for people of color, with more than half of households of color (57%) being liquid asset poor, it found.

“The 2019 Prosperity Now Scorecard shows that too many families are either struggling to make ends meet, or are just one emergency away from a financial disaster,” it said.
Millions of Americans don’t have savings to fall back on

A separate survey from home repair service HomeServe USA found that almost 1 in 5 Americans (19%) reported having no money set aside for dealing with the costs of an unexpected emergency expense. That report said 31% of Americas don’t have at least $500 set aside to cover an unexpected expense.

At the other end of the spectrum, over a quarter of Americans (26%) said they had $8,000 or more set aside for unexpected emergency expenses, it added.

Americans aged 65 and over are likely to have the most money set aside for unplanned expenses: 48% of people within the age group reporting having $8,000 or more in emergency funds (versus 20% of those ages 18 to 64).

“Nearly half of Americans (49%) cited medical emergencies as a potential unexpected expense for them in the next 12 months, a finding with added significance given the level of national attention and political debate around the topic of health care in recent months,” it added.

Though wage growth has accelerated recently, those gains have been concentrated among the wealthiest Americans most.

In addition, research from the Federal Reserve found that roughly 4 in 10 Americans couldn’t afford a $400 emergency. It said 41% would have to dip into savings, slightly less than 44% in 2016, 46% and 50% in 2013.

Roughly two-thirds of households earning less than $30,000 annually and Hispanic households would be unable to cover basic living expenses after missing more than one paycheck.

Approximately 22% say they expect to forgo payments on some of their bills and nearly half of those who don’t pay their bills also fail to pay off their credit-card bills every month, racking up double-digit interest rates.

The Fed’s 2018 report found that 74% of adults reported they were doing “at least OK financially” the previous year, up 10 percentage points from the first survey in 2013.

“Short disruptions in pay can cause significant hardship, as most Americans appear to be living paycheck-to-paycheck,” Angela Fontes, director of the Behavioral and Economic Analysis and Decision-Making (BEAD) program at NORC at the University of Chicago, said in the report.


The savings rate in the U.S. fell to 6.5% in March from a recent high of 8.8% in 2012.

The NORC study found that most workers would manage a missed paycheck by cutting spending on non-essential items (73%). But other methods consumers would employ to handle a gap in income could have serious long-term ramifications.

Around 2 in 5 consumers said they would stop putting money away into savings, while more than a quarter reported that they would stop making retirement contributions.

Arguably more concerning though is how many Americans would turn to debt. Almost half of households in this situation (47%) would turn to credit cards, while a similar share would borrow from friends or family.

And nearly a fifth of consumers would rely on a payday, auto or other short-term loan. These loans, which can carry interest rates upwards of 600%, can easily sink borrowers into an inescapable debt cycle and wreak havoc on their credit score.
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Prosperity Now, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank focused on expanding economic opportunity for low-income Americans, said 40% of U.S. households lack a basic level of savings.

These “liquid asset poor” households don’t even have enough savings to live at the poverty level for three months if their income was interrupted.

The data is even worse for people of color, with more than half of households of color (57%) being liquid asset poor, it found.

“The 2019 Prosperity Now Scorecard shows that too many families are either struggling to make ends meet, or are just one emergency away from a financial disaster,” it said.
Millions of Americans don’t have savings to fall back on

A separate survey from home repair service HomeServe USA found that almost 1 in 5 Americans (19%) reported having no money set aside for dealing with the costs of an unexpected emergency expense. That report said 31% of Americas don’t have at least $500 set aside to cover an unexpected expense.

As a poor American myself (bwahahaha... we're so wealthy in the things that COUNT, it's not funny...but most people would blanch and run screaming if told they had to live on our income for even 3 months, much less forever), I have some sympathy. BUT... how many of these households have cell phones (and full service plans for $100 or more a month?) How many have cable TV? Amazon Prime (yes, it can save money on shipping, but people near the poverty level have NO business buying brand new merchandise at full price; that's what thrift shops, garage sales and e-bay are for). How many smoke, drink soda, eat chips and other expensive snacks more than once or twice a YEAR, and buy cold cereals and toaster pastries for breakfast?

For those who are doing all that right, and are still pinched badly... I feel for them. If they're working more than 40 hours a week, AND/OR cooking and baking everything from scratch, mending or sewing their own clothing, and doing their own basic home and car repairs, I absolutely feel for them.

If they aren't... well, poor choices have consequences. You don't know how to do any of the above? YouTube (you can use the internet at your local library, or use free WiFi on a cheap laptop at the local McDonalds and a dozen other locations) has videos on almost everything. The 'net also has cooking classes and instructions, and a billion recipes on using low cost foods to cook tasty meals. Your local library has a ton of resources as well. Start by borrowing Amy Dacyzyn's books "The Tightwad Gazette". They're priceless for those who need to be on a strict budget.

Listen to Dave Ramsey and follow his advice. Many people who are struggling to make ends meet could find they are no longer "poor" in under 5 years if they just did those two things... read her books and followed Ramsey's advice.

Most won't do it.

Summerthyme
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Yeah, I agree with you. If you want one example, here it is. I used to buy coffee at Peets on a daily basis. One day I looked at the $2 per cup I was spending, and then looked at the $60 plus per month I was spending, and then looked at the $720 or so per year I was spending. Ergo, I went and bought a plastic cover, some filters, and a couple of coffee cups and made a cup every morning.

Well, that was several years ago, and I essentially paid my phone, electric, and internet bill with the money I saved on buying coffee.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Too many people...no matter what the economy...no matter what their income...will spend every dime they make.

That is the root of the problem.
 
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SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah, I agree with you. If you want one example, here it is. I used to buy coffee at Peets on a daily basis. One day I looked at the $2 per cup I was spending, and then looked at the $60 plus per month I was spending, and then looked at the $720 or so per year I was spending. Ergo, I went and bought a plastic cover, some filters, and a couple of coffee cups and made a cup every morning.

Well, that was several years ago, and I essentially paid my phone, electric, and internet bill with the money I saved on buying coffee.

I know people like that, personally. They have to have their Starbucks every morning before work, another Starbucks at lunch, and another after work. Just say they spend $2/cup each time, that's $6/day just for coffee. They are so bad they can't leave their apartment, without going to Starbucks. BUT, they sit in the dark, without any money to pay electric bills over $25/month. I could stock a good sized pantry with what they spend on coffee in a month! They have absolutely no savings at all.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
This same mantra keeps cropping up for years now. I googled MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM ECONOMIC DISASTER, and I stopped at page 6 of Google because the years went back very far of this being reported. I clearly remember it being reported back in 1998, one paycheck away, blah, blah, blah. Another thing reported now and then is how people are behind on their car payments and credit card payments. This is nothing new. People live beyond their means, they have to fix that themselves.

Study: Millions in U.S. are living in financial uncertainty - WTXL.com
https://www.wtxl.com/...millions...financial.../article_058a6940-24da-11e9-89eb-db0f...

Jan 30, 2019 - (WTXL) - A new study by an economic advocacy group, Prosperity Now, says most Americans are one paycheck away from poverty. ... accounts and fewer than 60 percent say they are putting money way for an emergency.
https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-is-a-savings-crisis-and-many-americas-dont-know-how...

Apr 1, 2019 - ... fact that so many Americans are one emergency away from financial disaster. ... toward the end of last year, many Americans went without a paycheck or two. .... and ask for advice, has more than 13.5 million subscribers.
Fed survey: 40 percent of adults can't cover a $400 emergency expense
https://www.cnbc.com/.../fed-survey-40-percent-of-adults-cant-cover-400-emergency...

May 22, 2018 - About 40 percent of adults said that if faced with a $400 unexpected expense, they ... to the Federal Reserve's Report on the Economic Well-Being of U.S. ... These results show that “millions of Americans are in desperate need of ... before your paycheck reaches you can make setting money aside easier.
Almost 80% of US workers live from paycheck to paycheck. Here's why ...
https://www.theguardian.com/.../2018/jul/.../us-economy-workers-paycheck-robert-reich

Jul 29, 2018 - America doesn't have a jobs crisis. ... The erosion of that bargaining power is one of the biggest economic stories of the past ... to pour into political campaigns and lobbying, while labor unions have had far less. .... There are a million and one ways to release this pressure, many of them glaringly obvious.
Over 40% of US Households Are One Paycheck Away From Poverty
https://therealnews.com/.../over-40-of-us-households-are-one-paycheck-away-from-p...

Feb 2, 2019 - Over 40% of US Households Are One Paycheck Away From Poverty .... face a financial emergency, showing that millions are vulnerable and this ... This lack of assets to weather a financial crisis is even more extreme ... So at Prosperity Now, we're working to expand economic opportunity for all Americans.
40% of Americans are one missed paycheck away from poverty and a ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/.../40_of_americans_are_one_missed_paycheck_away_from...

Feb 12, 2019 - Millions of middle-class Americans are just one missed paycheck ... That's a million more people behind than during the financial crisis era.
Stretched Thin: Majority of Americans Live Paycheck to Paycheck ...
https://www.usnews.com/...11/stretched-thin-majority-of-americans-live-paycheck-to-...

Jan 11, 2019 - Friday is the payday that the workers won't be getting a paycheck, ... "We've put this idea into people's head that when you're renting, you're throwing money away. ... The debt-to-income ratio has gone down from its financial crisis-era ... $37 billion, to $1.44 trillion from the second to third quarters of 2018.
With Many Just A Paycheck Away From Financial Ruin, Employers ...
https://www.forbes.com/.../many-just-a-paycheck-away-from-financial-ruin-employer...

Jan 18, 2019 - With Many Just A Paycheck Away From Financial Ruin, Employers And ... half of all Americans couldn't come up with $400 in an emergency is well ... local governments, the public sector employs more than 21 million people.
Another Shutdown Averted, but Many Americans Still a Paycheck ...
https://blog.aarp.org › AARP Blog › Thinking Policy

Feb 19, 2019 - But beyond the headlines, the shutdown also served as a very ... many American families are a paycheck away from financial distress. ... During the shutdown $140 million flowed out of the federal Thrift ... One emerging idea not yet in the market is an opt-out payroll deduction emergency savings account.
Most Americans don't have enough savings to cover a $1K emergency

Most of Us Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck. This Is What It Does to Your ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../most-us-live-paycheck-paycheck-what-it-does-your-heal...

Nov 2, 2017 - And that emergency stash of six month's pay that experts keep saying we should put away? ... most of us are just one misfortune away from financial oblivion. ... According to the American Psychological Association (APA), financial stress is ... One way living paycheck-to-paycheck can affect your health is the ...

Could You Come Up With $400 If Disaster Struck? Half Of Americans ...
https://www.npr.org/2016/04/24/.../could-you-come-up-with-400-if-disaster-struck
Apr 23, 2016 - If a financial emergency struck — say, a health problem or a car that needed ... while I wait for a paycheck to arrive, and I know what it is like to subsist for ... Rachel Martin about this secret "shame" of millions of Americans, and ...

Report on the Economic Well-Being of U.S. Households in 2015, May ...
https://www.federalreserve.gov/2015-report-economic-well-being-us-households-201...

May 20, 2016 - Economic Preparedness and Emergency Savings

One Third of Americans One Paycheck Away From Homelessness ...
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/.../one-third-of-americans-one-paycheck-away-fro...

Oct 5, 2011 - One Third of Americans One Paycheck Away From Homelessness ... state and local government belt tightening and a possible financial crisis. ...... a few days without millions of ordinary people one or two paychecks away ...
 

parable

Senior Member
I grew up exceedingly poor. To not be poor has been an on-going theme throughout my life. I thank God for His guidance.
I fully understand the practical posts of Summerthyme and Doug, and absolutely agree with WalknTrot. Sixty years ago, I saw the extreme poverty of Southeast Asia, and that further colored my outlook on life.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
In most of Asia, they think enjoy it while you can if you are rich.

We are headed towards world socialism and losing private ownership of homes etc.

Not being in debt is a sensible position to be in but saving for the future is dreamworld.
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
I read a very similar article a few weeks ago except at the end it was about people with incomes of $150,000 to $300,000. Very near me is a gated community and getting to know some of the people who've moved into it they are in that income range. Most have hinted they are one paycheck from bankruptcy.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The number of delinquent car loans are at a 10 year high. Things are not all roses. Prep up.
 

Secamp32

Veteran Member
I'll bet at least 30% or more of those people that don't have $400 liquid spend at least that much on cigarettes annually.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Prepper Princess is a YT channel run by a woman who is both a prepper, and and living within the Dave Ramsey program.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I know people like that, personally. They have to have their Starbucks every morning before work, another Starbucks at lunch, and another after work. Just say they spend $2/cup each time, that's $6/day just for coffee. They are so bad they can't leave their apartment, without going to Starbucks. BUT, they sit in the dark, without any money to pay electric bills over $25/month. I could stock a good sized pantry with what they spend on coffee in a month! They have absolutely no savings at all.

I once worked with a woman (crappy retail job) who admitted she spent $20/day at Starbucks.
 

jward

passin' thru
I know there is such a thing as true economic hardship. I've seen people fighting for their lives, with literally only the clothes on their backs, which they were trying to sell.

That is not very common though. Most all of us have that skill or opportunity to make a few bucks on the side, and more possessions than we want, let alone need, and at least a wee bit of fat left to trim in our budgets.

These same kind of articles are run all the time, but I suspect they're more agenda driven than anything.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Yeah, I agree with you. If you want one example, here it is. I used to buy coffee at Peets on a daily basis. One day I looked at the $2 per cup I was spending, and then looked at the $60 plus per month I was spending, and then looked at the $720 or so per year I was spending. Ergo, I went and bought a plastic cover, some filters, and a couple of coffee cups and made a cup every morning.

Well, that was several years ago, and I essentially paid my phone, electric, and internet bill with the money I saved on buying coffee.

When I home schooled our youngest son (4th and 5th grade) I taught him to look at yearly cost for all those "small" expenses. I'll never forget how wide his eyes were when he discovered that the total for something that cost "only" $2.50 a dsy was over $900! You could see the wheels spinning as he calculated how quickly he could save enough money to buy a used car, etc.., or how it coukd keep him poor.

Then, I taught him about compound interest, and showed him the mortgage amortization tables for various price points. He never forgot that, either.

When he married, his wife was blessedly a true soulmate and helpmate, and had no issues about buying a crappy, early 1900's HUD house in a small city. They worked hard to upgrade it... and paid it off in 5 years. Then they bought a 30 acre farm... snd paid *it* off in 5 years.

They enjoy life, but eat homemade (and homegrown) meals at home. .DS quit his job as a machinist to stay home with their babies... despite his boss offering, with tears in his eyes, to pay for a fulltime nanny if he'd agree to stay in his job! Both girls are delightfully secure, happy children, with the oldest displaying genius tendencies (she has been sight reading words from 10 months, and is now(at 23 months) fascinated with the solar system. However, she insists she's NOT from Earth! LOL!

His wife makes decent money, but most people wouldn't want to try to live on it with two kids. But not having to pay for daycare is huge, and having healthy kids who never are sick (no doctor bills) and are well adjusted (no therapy bills... a lot more common than you'd think these days!) helps immensely. Growing their own organic food also helps, as well as cooking 99% of their meals at home, from scratch.

It can be done, and it can be incredibly rewarding. But it requires making choices- choices too many peopke find "boring" or terrifying as they can't hace their Starbucks and iPhone. DS says his prepaid tracphone works fine (so does mine!)

It's all about choices, and values, andcwhat you believe is important in life. Who cares about kerping up with the (bankrupt) Joneses, anyway?

Summerthyme
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
These same kind of articles are run all the time, but I suspect they're more agenda driven than anything.

I've never figured out the agenda part other than to make you think everything is going to hell in a hand basket. It isn't. Those who bought more car or home than they could afford are living in lala land. Lenders who lend to these types pick up a few bucks, repossess, sell the same asset, rinse and repeat. Most people I see getting repossessed on are Mexicans. They're not very bright people. I put them up there with knee-grows. /just saying
 

AppleJacks

Contributing Member
" found that 51% of working adults in the United States would need to access savings to cover necessities if they missed more than one paycheck."

Isn't that what savings are for?

I haven't had coffee yet so I might be misunderstanding this, but what are the other 49% using to cover their necessities if they miss more than one - or ANY - paycheck?
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I would think it would be interesting to know how many people have both a checking account and a savings account.
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
I would think it would be interesting to know how many people have both a checking account and a savings account.

I think it would also be interesting to know how many adults can balance a checkbook seeing that overdrafts are a big source of bank profits.
 

dogmanan

Inactive
I'll bet at least 30% or more of those people that don't have $400 liquid spend at least that much on cigarettes annually.

You have know idea.

When me and my wife smoked, between the two of us we smoked two to three packs a day, depending and where we baught them that's 13.00 to 20.00 a day, so lets say 15.00 a day to make it easy to add, so 15.00 a day times 30 days is 450.00 a month, times 12 months is 5400.00 a year, and every ten years 54,000.00, pretty wild is it not.
 

West

Senior
My dogs are one bag of dog food away from missing a meal too.

Why we stock live traps. And live where there is lots of varmits. Just for the dogs...
 

Rabbit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are always going to be those who are a paycheck away from disaster but shipping our wealth to China hasn't helped us at all. Most working class people in America used to hold positions now they just have jobs, and crappy ones at that.
 

dogmanan

Inactive
Summerthyme speaking of buying a house I just checked a broker for a mortage on 100,000.00 and check this out.


this the numbers I plug in

Mortgage Calculator

Loan Amount: $ 100,000.00
Property Value: $ 120,000.00
Interest Rate: % 5.5
Mortgage Term: Years 30
Property Tax: $ per year 2500.00
Property Insurance: $ per year 1500.00
PMI: % 0.52
First Payment Date: May

Here is the results
Monthly payment
$944.46

Total Interest Paid:
$104,404.04

Total of 360 Payments: for 30 years
$330,210.71

Payoff Date:
Apr, 2049

Wild is it not , I figure I can pay it off [100,000.00] in about six or seven years and save a quite few thousand still in my pocket..

The bank is going to charge me more in interest then the amount of the mortgage.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
" found that 51% of working adults in the United States would need to access savings to cover necessities if they missed more than one paycheck."

Isn't that what savings are for?

I haven't had coffee yet so I might be misunderstanding this, but what are the other 49% using to cover their necessities if they miss more than one - or ANY - paycheck?

Yeah, I was kind of thinking that too.

But then I thought what the OP might of meant was: Their checking account only covers this weeks payments, without any left over. Meaning no extra money in the checking account to use up before dipping into savings.

We have a saving account, and what is left over we transfer into savings. However that is after what we keep in checking, as a minium in our case that could be 1000.00

For example: 1000.00 stays in. Pay check goes in,balance is 2000.00 use 500.00 to pay bills,eat out, buy bullets, women's shoes. ance 1500.00 in checking, transfer 500.00 to savings, balance in checking account 1000.00. So if no check goes into account next week, we still have the 1000.00 as a back up to spend before we dip into savings.

What the article is saying people can't do that. Zero in checking pay check goes in 1000.00 spend it all by Monday, balance zero. If there is no paycheck then first thing is dip into saving. If they have a savings account. From where I'm sitting, where would the money come from for savings.
 

Racing22

Crew Chief
What the article is saying people can't do that. Zero in checking pay check goes in 1000.00 spend it all by Monday, balance zero. If there is no paycheck then first thing is dip into saving. If they have a savings account. From where I'm sitting, where would the money come from for savings.

This is correct about the article, but it goes one step further... Once their checking account is empty that week, the majority have ZERO in a savings account to fall back on. THIS is why they are one paycheck away from disaster. No safety net at all.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Wild is it not , I figure I can pay it off [100,000.00] in about six or seven years and save a quite few thousand still in my pocket..

The bank is going to charge me more in interest then the amount of the mortgage.

Oh yeah, it's downright amazing. You've GOT to pay off those mortgages as quick as you can. The savings are massive. I had a 30 year mortgage on this house because the payments were so low, but had it paid in 12. Be sure, though, that you get a mortgage where you can make additional payments on the principal, or at least make "double payments". Either of those will help trim that time frame down. At least, that was my experience.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
This is correct about the article, but it goes one step further... Once their checking account is empty that week, the majority have ZERO in a savings account to fall back on. THIS is why they are one paycheck away from disaster. No safety net at all.

That's the really funny thing about articles like this. I thought I was poor. Then I found out that even my piddly savings put me ahead of most of the country. Even if you're just debt-free, you're ahead of most of the country!

I don't know whether to be happy or really, really concerned.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Lived like this for years with my ex, who is still living that way. Even though I have debt, I don't live that way anymore. Its called savings.

Judy
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
A $7 pack per day costs over $2500 per year.

More than that if you add in healthcare costs for smoking. There's a woman who stands out in front of her PT cruiser smoking a cig, she's at least 50# overweight with a sign that says "Hungry Please Help!" I chuckle every time I drive by her.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I've got a friend who shacks his head over people who live week to week AND have their credit cards maxed out, 30 yr mortgages, 2nd mortgages, and only pay the minimum on everything. All that money going towards the interest, is throwing it away.

He has an uncle who owes more on his house now than when he bought it 30 years ago, and the uncle is 75.
 

dogmanan

Inactive
Oh yeah, it's downright amazing. You've GOT to pay off those mortgages as quick as you can. The savings are massive. I had a 30 year mortgage on this house because the payments were so low, but had it paid in 12. Be sure, though, that you get a mortgage where you can make additional payments on the principal, or at least make "double payments". Either of those will help trim that time frame down. At least, that was my experience.


Yes you are wright , the extra you pay you have to tell them it is to go on principal only.


What sucks is for the first few years of any mortgage the principal makes up most of the payment, In the mortgage above I showed the first few years less then 200.00 goes to principal every month, the f;;;;;g banks try to get all their money in case you pay it off early .

I feel it should be law that half the monthy payment should go to principal and half to interest starting at month one, that would be more fare.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
The number of delinquent car loans are at a 10 year high. Things are not all roses. Prep up.

That's due to easy credit. The government is doing the same thing with housing by providing programs like the 1st time buyer's program. People who have no business buying a home are buying lots of them. Housing will crash again.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That's due to easy credit. The government is doing the same thing with housing by providing programs like the 1st time buyer's program. People who have no business buying a home are buying lots of them. Housing will crash again.

I agree. I believe it it is safe to say Everything will crash at some point. I just wonder when we will reach that point. Next month, next year, or next decade.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I think the point of all these articles is to try and convince people to tighten up their economic ship. It hasn't been working since the same paycheck to paycheck syndrome has been going on for decades now. I also think when the government shut down in January it really freaked the elite out because they realized the riots would start within a few days/weeks. Granted, "they" want to take the system down, finally crush the middle class and impose a new feudal system. However, they were outplayed by Trump and didn't want the system to go down right now. They still have a few ducks in a row. I also think they are saying not only do people zero out every two weeks, they essentially have no savings. This means once the first paycheck is missed, they will be unable to buy food, or pay any bills. If they miss the second two week paycheck, they will then be unable to pay utility bills, pay rent, and face an economic crisis. If you really want to know what will happen in any type of economic crisis, all you have to do is look what happened when the government shut down in January, and then triple the number of people impacted.

Here is yet another article on the dismal economic state of many Americans.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...-of-americans-are-living-paycheck-to-paycheck

On The Edge Of Disaster: 59 Percent Of Americans Are Living Paycheck To Paycheck
May 16, 2019 by Michael Snyder

Living on the edge, being dragged down by debt, and having little hope for the future is no way to live. But that is precisely where most Americans find themselves in 2019. Despite a supposedly “booming economy”, the middle class continues to shrink and most of the country is barely scraping by from month to month. In fact, a brand new survey that was just released by Charles Schwab discovered that 59 percent of all Americans are currently living paycheck to paycheck…

Overall, 59 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, according to the survey of 1,000 U.S. adults by Charles Schwab.

However, the Millennial generation (people ages 23-38) was the most likely to struggle in between payday, at 62 percent, followed by Generation X (60 percent), Generation Z (55 percent) and Baby Boomers (53 percent).

I realize that those numbers look really high, but this is really where we are at as a society.

In fact, a study that was just conducted by researchers at the University of Chicago found that 51 percent of all “working adults” would not be able to cover basic necessities “if they missed more than one paycheck”…
 

dogmanan

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Well their are over three hundred million people in this country so asking a 1,000 to guage what is going on will in no way say what is going on in the country.
 
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