The NYT continues to spread MSM lies about what happened at Waco...
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Memories of Waco Siege Continue to Fuel Far-Right Groups
JULY 12, 2015
00:04
Continue reading the main story Video
The Shadow of Waco
In 1993, federal agents raided the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, and generated a legacy of fear that continues to shape antigovernment groups today.
By RetroReport on Publish Date July 12, 2015. Photo by Jim Urquhart/Reuters. Watch in Times Video »
Retro Report
By CLYDE HABERMAN
On Wednesday, the Army is scheduled to begin two months of training exercises across the American Southwest. If the past is a reasonable guide, some on the outer reaches of the far right are bound to recycle warnings that martial law is at hand. Conspiracy theorists were singularly imaginative after these war games, code-named Jade Helm 15, were announced.
Among the dire predictions: Citizens’ guns will be confiscated. Political opponents of President Obama will be rounded up and herded into detention centers. Mr. Obama will suspend the Constitution and cling to office indefinitely. All this is part of a plan to establish a “new world order.”
While not endorsing those prophecies, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas did little to tamp them down when he ordered the Texas State Guard to “continuously monitor” Jade Helm to reassure Texans that “their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed.”
As the conspiracy theories bubbled, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter was asked point blank at a news conference in May if a military takeover of Texas was in the works. “No,” Mr. Carter replied. Laughter accompanied both the question and the response, underscoring how frivolous the very idea seemed to those in the room.
Still, that such an exchange even took place was testament to the deep mistrust of government harbored by some Americans, more than a few of whom come to any dispute heavily armed. Hostility toward the federal government is hardly new. It can be traced at least as far back as the anti-tax Whiskey Rebellion of the 1790s. But its modern roots may be summed up in a single word: Waco.
That word and its abiding significance are explored in the latest episode of Retro Report, a series of video documentaries that study the lasting consequences of major news stories of the past. For right-wing militias and so-called Patriot groups, Waco amounts to evidence of a tyrannical, illegitimate government unblinkingly prepared to kill its own people.
In early 1993, a religious sect with apocalyptic visions, the Branch Davidians, was ensconced in a compound called the Mount Carmel Center, just outside Waco, Tex. Its adherents were led — some would say dominated — by a man with a messianic sense of himself, David Koresh.
Agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms suspected that, whatever their theology, the Davidians were amassing an illegal arsenal. On Feb. 28, 1993, agents descended on Mount Carmel. A gun battle broke out. Each side blamed the other for having fired first. Either way, the results were disastrous: Four agents and half a dozen members of the sect were killed.
The shootout led to a 51-day siege, with the Federal Bureau of Investigation taking charge for the government. Hoping to induce a surrender, agents tried to disorient the Davidians — by way of sleep deprivation, for instance, with all-night floodlighting of the compound and the blaring of horrible sounds like the screams of rabbits being slaughtered.
All that did was impel the group to dig in. Finally, on April 19, the F.B.I. mounted a full assault, pumping in large quantities of military-grade tear gas. Fires, which independent investigators later deemed to have been set by the Davidians, engulfed the compound. Shooting could be heard inside. When it was all over, 75 people were dead, a third of them children. Some, including Mr. Koresh, had been shot by fellow sect members. There were few survivors.
The Waco events did not occur in a vacuum. Eight months earlier, federal agents laid siege to the compound of a family of white separatists in Ruby Ridge, Idaho. That encirclement also ended badly, with several people killed, among them a 14-year-old boy. F.B.I. officials later acknowledged that their operations at Ruby Ridge had been “terribly flawed.”
As for Waco, a Harvard professor of law and psychiatry, Dr. Alan A. Stone, took the F.B.I. to task in a report to the Justice Department in November 1993. An apocalyptic sect like the Branch Davidians should not have been handled as if it would “submit to tactical pressure” the way a band of ordinary criminals would, Dr. Stone said. Government agents sought to prove to Mr. Koresh that they were in control. Instead, Dr. Stone said, they drove him to the “ultimate act of control — destruction of himself and his group.”
The grim events in Texas and Idaho proved sobering for the government. Its agents began to exercise more patience with defiant militant groups. An armed standoff in 1996 with the Montana Freemen ended without a shot fired and with the Freemen’s surrender after 81 days. In Nevada last year, agents of the federal Bureau of Land Management tactically retreated rather than get into a shooting war with rifle-toting supporters of Cliven Bundy. Mr. Bundy, a rancher given to racist rants, owed the government more than $1 million in grazing fees amassed over two decades, but cast his refusal to pay as the act of a patriot and not, as many of his critics suspected, of a deadbeat.
Throughout, the specter of Waco has not faded. Right-wing extremists regularly invoke it as a defining moment, proof of Washington’s perfidy. “Waco can happen at any given time,” Mike Vanderboegh, a prominent figure in the Patriot movement, told Retro Report. He added ominously: “But the outcome will be different this time. Of that I can assure you.”
One man who took the notion of a different outcome to a murderous extreme was Timothy J. McVeigh, who went to Mount Carmel and observed the siege. On April 19, 1995, two years to the day after the mass deaths there, he and an accomplice, Terry L. Nichols, bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding nearly 700 others. It was the most devastating act of domestic terrorism in American history. Mr. Nichols was sentenced to life in prison, Mr. McVeigh to death.
Interviewed in prison by two Buffalo News reporters in 2001, the year he was executed, Mr. McVeigh said: “Waco started this war. Hopefully, Oklahoma would end it. The only way they’re going to feel something, the only way they’re going to get the message is, quote, with a body count.”
Post-Waco, many on the radical right organized. The number of Patriot groups rose sharply, to 858 by 1996, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks such organizations. But the number then plummeted, to as few as 149 in 2008. That happened to be the year America elected its first African-American president. In short order, the number soared once more, to a peak of 1,360 groups (including 321 militias) in 2012, though the law center reports that they declined to 874 in 2014.
In a survey conducted last year for the Police Executive Research Forum, a nonprofit group, law enforcement agencies expressed far more concern about threats from right-wing extremists than from Islamic fanatics. The New America Foundation, a Washington research center, has found that since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people in this country have been killed by non-Muslim extremists than by self-proclaimed jihadists.
Even some Branch Davidians worry about the new militancy. One of them is Clive Doyle, who survived the 1993 inferno while his 18-year-old daughter, Shari, died. “Now everything’s likened to us: ‘Is this going to be another Waco?’” Mr. Doyle told Retro Report. Referring to the Patriot groups, he added: “I appreciate their support and their sympathy. But you listen to what they’re saying, and some of them scare me.”
On the eve of Jade Helm 15, the government has yet to find firm footing in how to deal with those who take up arms in defiance of lawful authority. “Two decades after the Waco debacle, federal officials continue to struggle with their approach to radical right extremists,” the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a 2014 report. “What they learned from Waco was that a heavy-handed approach risks a major loss of life. Yet allowing the antigovernment movement to flout the law at gunpoint is surely not the answer.”
The video with this article is part of a documentary series presented by The New York Times. The video project was started with a grant from Christopher Buck. Retro Report has a staff of 13 journalists and 10 contributors led by Kyra Darnton. It is a nonprofit video news organization that aims to provide a thoughtful counterweight to today’s 24/7 news cycle. Previous episodes are at nytimes.com/retroreport. To suggest ideas for future reports, email retroreport@nytimes.com.
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Memories of Waco Siege Continue to Fuel Far-Right Groups
JULY 12, 2015
00:04
Continue reading the main story Video
The Shadow of Waco
In 1993, federal agents raided the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, and generated a legacy of fear that continues to shape antigovernment groups today.
By RetroReport on Publish Date July 12, 2015. Photo by Jim Urquhart/Reuters. Watch in Times Video »
Retro Report
By CLYDE HABERMAN
On Wednesday, the Army is scheduled to begin two months of training exercises across the American Southwest. If the past is a reasonable guide, some on the outer reaches of the far right are bound to recycle warnings that martial law is at hand. Conspiracy theorists were singularly imaginative after these war games, code-named Jade Helm 15, were announced.
Among the dire predictions: Citizens’ guns will be confiscated. Political opponents of President Obama will be rounded up and herded into detention centers. Mr. Obama will suspend the Constitution and cling to office indefinitely. All this is part of a plan to establish a “new world order.”
While not endorsing those prophecies, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas did little to tamp them down when he ordered the Texas State Guard to “continuously monitor” Jade Helm to reassure Texans that “their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed.”
As the conspiracy theories bubbled, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter was asked point blank at a news conference in May if a military takeover of Texas was in the works. “No,” Mr. Carter replied. Laughter accompanied both the question and the response, underscoring how frivolous the very idea seemed to those in the room.
Still, that such an exchange even took place was testament to the deep mistrust of government harbored by some Americans, more than a few of whom come to any dispute heavily armed. Hostility toward the federal government is hardly new. It can be traced at least as far back as the anti-tax Whiskey Rebellion of the 1790s. But its modern roots may be summed up in a single word: Waco.
That word and its abiding significance are explored in the latest episode of Retro Report, a series of video documentaries that study the lasting consequences of major news stories of the past. For right-wing militias and so-called Patriot groups, Waco amounts to evidence of a tyrannical, illegitimate government unblinkingly prepared to kill its own people.
In early 1993, a religious sect with apocalyptic visions, the Branch Davidians, was ensconced in a compound called the Mount Carmel Center, just outside Waco, Tex. Its adherents were led — some would say dominated — by a man with a messianic sense of himself, David Koresh.
Agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms suspected that, whatever their theology, the Davidians were amassing an illegal arsenal. On Feb. 28, 1993, agents descended on Mount Carmel. A gun battle broke out. Each side blamed the other for having fired first. Either way, the results were disastrous: Four agents and half a dozen members of the sect were killed.
The shootout led to a 51-day siege, with the Federal Bureau of Investigation taking charge for the government. Hoping to induce a surrender, agents tried to disorient the Davidians — by way of sleep deprivation, for instance, with all-night floodlighting of the compound and the blaring of horrible sounds like the screams of rabbits being slaughtered.
All that did was impel the group to dig in. Finally, on April 19, the F.B.I. mounted a full assault, pumping in large quantities of military-grade tear gas. Fires, which independent investigators later deemed to have been set by the Davidians, engulfed the compound. Shooting could be heard inside. When it was all over, 75 people were dead, a third of them children. Some, including Mr. Koresh, had been shot by fellow sect members. There were few survivors.
The Waco events did not occur in a vacuum. Eight months earlier, federal agents laid siege to the compound of a family of white separatists in Ruby Ridge, Idaho. That encirclement also ended badly, with several people killed, among them a 14-year-old boy. F.B.I. officials later acknowledged that their operations at Ruby Ridge had been “terribly flawed.”
As for Waco, a Harvard professor of law and psychiatry, Dr. Alan A. Stone, took the F.B.I. to task in a report to the Justice Department in November 1993. An apocalyptic sect like the Branch Davidians should not have been handled as if it would “submit to tactical pressure” the way a band of ordinary criminals would, Dr. Stone said. Government agents sought to prove to Mr. Koresh that they were in control. Instead, Dr. Stone said, they drove him to the “ultimate act of control — destruction of himself and his group.”
The grim events in Texas and Idaho proved sobering for the government. Its agents began to exercise more patience with defiant militant groups. An armed standoff in 1996 with the Montana Freemen ended without a shot fired and with the Freemen’s surrender after 81 days. In Nevada last year, agents of the federal Bureau of Land Management tactically retreated rather than get into a shooting war with rifle-toting supporters of Cliven Bundy. Mr. Bundy, a rancher given to racist rants, owed the government more than $1 million in grazing fees amassed over two decades, but cast his refusal to pay as the act of a patriot and not, as many of his critics suspected, of a deadbeat.
Throughout, the specter of Waco has not faded. Right-wing extremists regularly invoke it as a defining moment, proof of Washington’s perfidy. “Waco can happen at any given time,” Mike Vanderboegh, a prominent figure in the Patriot movement, told Retro Report. He added ominously: “But the outcome will be different this time. Of that I can assure you.”
One man who took the notion of a different outcome to a murderous extreme was Timothy J. McVeigh, who went to Mount Carmel and observed the siege. On April 19, 1995, two years to the day after the mass deaths there, he and an accomplice, Terry L. Nichols, bombed a federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and wounding nearly 700 others. It was the most devastating act of domestic terrorism in American history. Mr. Nichols was sentenced to life in prison, Mr. McVeigh to death.
Interviewed in prison by two Buffalo News reporters in 2001, the year he was executed, Mr. McVeigh said: “Waco started this war. Hopefully, Oklahoma would end it. The only way they’re going to feel something, the only way they’re going to get the message is, quote, with a body count.”
Post-Waco, many on the radical right organized. The number of Patriot groups rose sharply, to 858 by 1996, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks such organizations. But the number then plummeted, to as few as 149 in 2008. That happened to be the year America elected its first African-American president. In short order, the number soared once more, to a peak of 1,360 groups (including 321 militias) in 2012, though the law center reports that they declined to 874 in 2014.
In a survey conducted last year for the Police Executive Research Forum, a nonprofit group, law enforcement agencies expressed far more concern about threats from right-wing extremists than from Islamic fanatics. The New America Foundation, a Washington research center, has found that since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people in this country have been killed by non-Muslim extremists than by self-proclaimed jihadists.
Even some Branch Davidians worry about the new militancy. One of them is Clive Doyle, who survived the 1993 inferno while his 18-year-old daughter, Shari, died. “Now everything’s likened to us: ‘Is this going to be another Waco?’” Mr. Doyle told Retro Report. Referring to the Patriot groups, he added: “I appreciate their support and their sympathy. But you listen to what they’re saying, and some of them scare me.”
On the eve of Jade Helm 15, the government has yet to find firm footing in how to deal with those who take up arms in defiance of lawful authority. “Two decades after the Waco debacle, federal officials continue to struggle with their approach to radical right extremists,” the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a 2014 report. “What they learned from Waco was that a heavy-handed approach risks a major loss of life. Yet allowing the antigovernment movement to flout the law at gunpoint is surely not the answer.”
The video with this article is part of a documentary series presented by The New York Times. The video project was started with a grant from Christopher Buck. Retro Report has a staff of 13 journalists and 10 contributors led by Kyra Darnton. It is a nonprofit video news organization that aims to provide a thoughtful counterweight to today’s 24/7 news cycle. Previous episodes are at nytimes.com/retroreport. To suggest ideas for future reports, email retroreport@nytimes.com.
