So, they want us to pay to INCREASE the carbon footprint of a few billion people?! WTF?
Summerthyme
ENER Massachusetts Energy Companies Announce 64% Increase in Electricity Rates Beginning November 1st
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Summerthyme
No,no ST,
All those extra benjamins will go to green energy improvements in turd-world.
Biden just brought back Podesta. The solyndra model is a tried and true plan. /Sarc
Txkstew
Veteran Member
Back around 2001, I was working at DuPont's Sabine River Works in Orange, Tx. Conoco was building two huge CoGen Turbine Electric Generators on DuPont's property, with DuPont providing all the offsite utilities for the facility.
These were General Electric design turbines. The idea was Natural Gas fueled feed stock, with the added benefit of a way to burn off nasty Volatile Organic Compound (VOC) byproducts, from the six or seven other chemical plants along there. I think cheap electricity for them all as well.
These were like big jet engines, six stories tall, and tall exhaust stacks. Supposedly they were going to build twenty of these units around New York City. I don't if that ever happened, but years later, I worked with a guy who did one on a barge in Venezuela, that could be moved to different locations along the coast.
Natural gas should be a viable, cheap fuel in some locations, for many years to come.
These were General Electric design turbines. The idea was Natural Gas fueled feed stock, with the added benefit of a way to burn off nasty Volatile Organic Compound (VOC) byproducts, from the six or seven other chemical plants along there. I think cheap electricity for them all as well.
These were like big jet engines, six stories tall, and tall exhaust stacks. Supposedly they were going to build twenty of these units around New York City. I don't if that ever happened, but years later, I worked with a guy who did one on a barge in Venezuela, that could be moved to different locations along the coast.
Natural gas should be a viable, cheap fuel in some locations, for many years to come.
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
Stop questioning your masters tax slave.
To do so is racist , anti trans , fascist and literally being Hitler.
Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
And on that positive note…
Read a book by Canadian author Farley Mowat, some years ago, called, “The Siberians”.
Some Soviet had invited Farley, a well-known hater of everything bureaucratic, to come tour a large portion of their Northern Portions….well-guided (closely chaperoned, of course).
Farley’s most notable takeaway observation was the efficiency with which they Russian crews would go into a known mineral/rich area, begin to clear timber and build log cabins…..then, as infrastructure, including underground equipment storage and maintenance facilities were constructed in that previously pristine and wildly remote scape, they would begin construction on the hydroelectric dams……built of earth broken from beneath the permafrost, a foot of compacted earth per day, and allowed to freeze solid, overnight….resulting in a full service hydro electric, built from permafrost earth….no concrete.
Then they would build the city.
Lesson ?
Where there’s a will, there’s a way….and even a supposedly repressive government knows how to expand for their people…..anywhere.
Here ?
Not so much.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
We (who is this we anyway?) have to fundamentally change America. - obolo (we all thought it was a joke - not)
its just transitory
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
Owner was in this field and has spoken of the "floating barge mounted" Co-generation units installed in the Hudson River in NYC. I think he said then there was the equivalent of 1000MW (a good size nuclear plant) installed at various locations up and down the riverfront.
These discharge heat directly to the air (no cooling water) so no cooling tower required.
Minimal permitting...
8 units total, four in foreground four more on the other side of the quay.
Dobbin
The whole thing is a grift.
And that doesn’t make sense to you? Bawahaha. I think they have lost their minds. Perhaps their wallets are low.
Next question is everyone in that area ready to freeze to death?
I have no idea what this coming winter will bring to various areas of the country, but will they use say an Ice Storm to kill people as power go's out they avoid restoring the power as long as posable and allow people that are completely unprepared for such events end up freezing to death.
I have no idea what this coming winter will bring to various areas of the country, but will they use say an Ice Storm to kill people as power go's out they avoid restoring the power as long as posable and allow people that are completely unprepared for such events end up freezing to death.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Of course.
If encouraging investment & development was employed here, there would be a huge backlash from the Marxist bloc that the "rich will seize control of yet another revenue producing sector".
I wonder if that would be the rich Socialists (Gates, Soros, Zuk et al) or the rich conservatives . . . .
Long ago it was pointed out that the hidden powers had their bank accounts set in place for the day this happens and the people in third world countries will see very little of that money if they see any of it at all.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
I'm in MA, but not connected to any of the big companies.
Our city has its own municipal electric company. I'll see how it plays out compared to the others. I've heard that residents can change companies (I don't know if it's true), but because our rates have always seemed to be lower, I don't know of anyone changing.
Our city has its own municipal electric company. I'll see how it plays out compared to the others. I've heard that residents can change companies (I don't know if it's true), but because our rates have always seemed to be lower, I don't know of anyone changing.
LostMyMind
Contributing Member
What perfect timing. Our 2 yr contract runs out next week.
New rate? A bit over 100%.
New rate? A bit over 100%.