HEALTH Man, they want cases to be covid so badly!

[TKO]

Found this on facebook today. If this little one had died, they would have counted it as covid related. On that, I'll bet my bottom dollar.

This is Killian. His appendix ruptured because Major Health Partners/Major Hospital refused twice to test for appendicitis during his visits. They tested him for COVID and ruled it as COVID - twice. His pediatrician diagnosed him with appendicitis and he was sent to Riley for surgery. Unfortunately, his appendix ruptured before they were able to remove it.





His mom said...

My sweet Killian Thomas is 2 years old, and is overall a very healthy toddler. So when he’s not feeling good, you just know.

All day yesterday he was crying because his tummy hurt and had a fever. He was very lethargic as well. Throughout the day, his pain became intolerable for him and his fever would not break. Nathan took him to Major Hospital last night thinking it might be appendicitis. His fever was 102.2. He couldn’t sit up or even walk without screaming in pain.

The ER doctors tested him for covid and gave him Tylenol. After being at the hospital for a couple of hours his fever finally broke. They refused to do testing to see if it was his appendix. Instead, they ruled it as covid-19 and sent him home...

This morning, Killian woke up screaming because his tummy was hurting so bad. Nathan took him back to Major hospital asking them to test for appendicitis, where they still refused. His temperature was 103.2. They did a chest X-ray, and although that showed no signs of him having coronavirus, they still ruled it as that! Again, they gave him Tylenol and sent him home. You could tell he was in unbearable pain, and Nathan and I were not settling for their determination that he had the coronavirus.

We made an appointment with his pediatrician, where he determined it was appendicitis. He sent us up to Riley Hospital to confirm this.
After arriving at Riley, they immediately put an IV in and gave him morphine to help with his pain. They did lab work as well as an ultrasound, and determined it is in fact appendicitis!

Needless to say, my sweet two year old will be having a microscopic appendectomy today. Please keep my baby in your prayers for a successful surgery as well as a safe and speedy recovery!

 

[TheSearcher]

As has been said, this mania will kill people. In this case, it very nearly did.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

As has been said, this mania will kill people. In this case, it very nearly did.

A lot MORE people need to go to JAIL over this nonsense. Including some governors who need to be up on MURDER CHARGES.

 

[EMICT]

A local nurse’s brother scheduled to have a COVID test. He was just curious and had no symptoms. He was called into work the day he was to be tested and never got to the health department for testing even though he was pre-registered.

Two days later he received a letter from the health department confirming he had COVID along with instructions for isolation and contact tracing... so yea, they want as many cases as they can muster.

 

[FREEBIRD]

Malpractice.

 

[rolenrock]

A local nurse’s brother scheduled to have a COVID test. He was just curious and had no symptoms. He was called into work the day he was to be tested and never got to the health department for testing even though he was pre-registered.

Two days later he received a letter from the health department confirming he had COVID along with instructions for isolation and contact tracing... so yea, they want as many cases as they can muster.

I've heard of three others who scheduled tests, didn't get them done and received letters stating their tests were positive.

 

[TheSearcher]

A local nurse’s brother scheduled to have a COVID test. He was just curious and had no symptoms. He was called into work the day he was to be tested and never got to the health department for testing even though he was pre-registered.

Two days later he received a letter from the health department confirming he had COVID along with instructions for isolation and contact tracing... so yea, they want as many cases as they can muster.

WTF?!?!?!? THIS HAS TO STOP!

 

[AlaskaSue]

A local nurse’s brother scheduled to have a COVID test. He was just curious and had no symptoms. He was called into work the day he was to be tested and never got to the health department for testing even though he was pre-registered.

Two days later he received a letter from the health department confirming he had COVID along with instructions for isolation and contact tracing... so yea, they want as many cases as they can muster.

I’ve heard the same thing from a couple of acquaintances who had the same experience (not in Alaska). Received a positive result on a test that never happened. This is not merely anecdotal; it seems to indicate more of the overall drive to push numbers.

 

[TKO]

A local nurse’s brother scheduled to have a COVID test. He was just curious and had no symptoms. He was called into work the day he was to be tested and never got to the health department for testing even though he was pre-registered.

Two days later he received a letter from the health department confirming he had COVID along with instructions for isolation and contact tracing... so yea, they want as many cases as they can muster.

It's fraud. I can't believe all the fraud going on with this.

 

[Border Collie Dad]

My daughter works in a personal care home.
Today she got her first test required of all employees.

Wonder how that will turn out.

Nasal swab made her nose bleed

 

[amarilla]

I know a doctor who said in my state he knows of 3 deaths for sure that weren't CoVid19 but were called that due to extra money.

 

[ExCop]

Just watch the evening news (msm) you would swear people were dying in the streets.

 

[et2]

The disinformation campaign against our health and us. Crickets from the fake commie news networks. Why our leaders don’t speak up about this is disgusting. More deep state swamp crap. They’re beating us like a rented mule.

The swamp is alive and in complete control

 

[Deena in GA]

On the other hand, a friend of ours got sick with a bad cough. She went to the doctor who diagnosed her with bronchitis. She kept coughing and feeling worse and worse. Finally got diagnosed with Covid. In the meantime, her husband started getting sick. A couple of days ago he was having so much trouble breathing that she took him to the ER. They ended up admitting him. Yesterday he was transferred into ICU. Last night she ended up in the ER and then was admitted. This morning he was in such bad shape that they put him on the ventilator. A little later she had to be moved to ICU too. Since being in the hospital, they have found blood clots in both of her lungs. Their son and grandson have also both been diagnosed with Covid. It’s real and hits some people very hard.

 

[Tennessee gal]

Deena, praying for your friends.

 

[bev]

Deena, are they at St Francis? I thought that was where covid19 cases were. Heard they were filling up. A bunch of our church members have it too. I’ll say a prayer for your friends.

 

[intothatgoodnight]

The COVID 19 Silver Bullet - Dr. Richard Bartlett - Still Report 3126

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRO6NldUP4


Runtime: 21:50

According to Dr. Bartlett, the death rates in Japan, Taiwan, Singapore all have very low death rates, using a COVID-19 treatment similar to his recommended treatment.

Dr. Bartlett's Treatment Protocol

1) Inhaled steroid - Budesonide, sold under the brand name Pulmicort

2) Antibiotic - Clarithromycin, sold under the brand name Biaxin

3) Zinc

Good interview - Dr. Bartlett explains his experiences in treating COVID-19, the safety of the drugs that he is recommending, and how this recommended treatment protocol works.

------------------------------------------------

View the entire "American Can We Talk" interview with Dr. Richard Bartlett

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDSDdwN2Xcg


Runtime: 31:11


intothegoodnight

 

[medic38572]

Benewah County deputy is not working with COVID-19, sheriff's office says

The Benewah County Sheriff's Office wrote on Facebook that one of its deputies is in quarantine after possible exposure to COVID-19

Video here at the link!


BENEWAH COUNTY, Idaho — The Benewah County Sheriff's Office says it does not have a deputy with coronavirus who is still working.

This comes after KREM received multiple tips from residents in the area stating that the sheriff's office had not asked a deputy who tested positive for the virus to stay home.

"On the contrary to popular belief, the Sheriff’s Office does NOT have a Deputy that tested positive for COVID-19 and is still working," the sheriff's office wrote in a Facebook post.



According to the post, a sheriff's deputy is in quarantine after possible exposure to COVID-19. The deputy was sent to a clinic in Plummer, Idaho, because he had been in contact with a man whose wife had tested positive for COVID-19 during a traffic stop on Sunday.

The deputy's test result came back positive at the Plummer clinic. He was then sent to Benewah Community Hospital for a second test that came back negative.

Upon advice from the St. Maries Ambulance and local health officials, the sheriff's office is asking the deputy to quarantine at least until results come back from a third test.

The deputy does not have coronavirus symptoms, according to the sheriff's office.

The man that the deputy came in contact with during the traffic stop and other close contacts have tested negative for coronavirus.

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Interesting. So if you just have the antibodies and no symptoms they want to "track" you?

 

[Melodi]

Of course "they" (the hospitals) want it to be COVID.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a failing health care "system" that relies increasingly on insurance companies with co-pays so high (for any other disease) that most people can't pay them (so the hospital doesn't get paid either) and "private care" to patients who will NEVER be able to pay their bills but are likely to apply for bankruptcy; is going to take every penny "Uncle Sam" is willing to throw their way.

Right now, unique from all other medical conditions, in the US if a patient has COVID 19, then in theory the tax-payer covers their bills, or at least the hospital can ask for payment.

Other diseases, accidents, or underlying conditions are not paid for unless the insurance company or the patient can do so (for folks not already on medicare or another program).

Considering that several weeks in an ICU runs into the millions of dollars (and I only know one or two people in the US with that kind of money, and most of that is usually in family trusts, small family businesses or property) the hospitals have all the incentive in the world to "discover" that "everyone" has COVID-19.

Except when they are too full to manage, then it is in their best interests to ignore people.

 

[Doat]

They have to keep all the social upheaval going until November. Its all and has been a plan. And we have had our eyes opened.

 

[mistaken1]

It's fraud. I can't believe all the fraud going on with this.

When democarps are involved you can bet your sweet bippy that fraud will be part of the plan. This is who they are.

 

[Dobbin]

I've heard of three others who scheduled tests, didn't get them done and received letters stating their tests were positive.

It's fraud. I can't believe all the fraud going on with this.

Follow the money. YOUR Federal tax money.

Dobbin

 

[TheSearcher]

On the other hand, a friend of ours got sick with a bad cough. She went to the doctor who diagnosed her with bronchitis. She kept coughing and feeling worse and worse. Finally got diagnosed with Covid. In the meantime, her husband started getting sick. A couple of days ago he was having so much trouble breathing that she took him to the ER. They ended up admitting him. Yesterday he was transferred into ICU. Last night she ended up in the ER and then was admitted. This morning he was in such bad shape that they put him on the ventilator. A little later she had to be moved to ICU too. Since being in the hospital, they have found blood clots in both of her lungs. Their son and grandson have also both been diagnosed with Covid. It’s real and hits some people very hard.

I have nothing but sympathy and good will for your friend and their family. Based on the symptoms you're describing, it sounds like a reasonable case to test for Covid, though bronchitis in normal past situations also fits. I suspect this was not a very recent story, because I think the medical pattern of the moment is to test for Covid almost for every patient, especially those with respiratory issues.

However, the OP was talking about a small child literally screaming in what sounded like pretty much unbearable abdominal pain and with a high fever. That's pretty classic appendicitis, and the doctors trying to paste Covid onto the diagnosis really did make a big and avoidable mistake.

 

[TerryK]

Politics has taken control of the whole Covid 19 disease.
Facts are either suppressed or distorted.
Here in Florida the number of Covid + patients in hospitals is hidden by the state government who refuses to release the numbers like the majority of other states do.
Even though 50 hopital ICUs are at 100% our governor still refuses to release the actual state wide numbers. Says they would serve no purpose.

Secondly, many of you need to learn more about hospital financials.
Covid patient care costs much more than regular care, or even normal ICU care. The hospitals are not making more profit from covid. In fact they are losing money, and many hospital managers are asking for covid patients to be sent to other hospitals if possible. They lose money on each one they have to treat.

 

[TheSearcher]

Secondly, many of you need to learn more about hospital financials.
Covid patient care costs much more than regular care, or even normal ICU care. The hospitals are not making more profit from covid. In fact they are losing money, and many hospital managers are asking for covid patients to be sent to other hospitals if possible. They lose money on each one they have to treat.

I'm sure you are correct. The pressure to diagnose Covid for the cases they do treat must be enormous, if only to slow the fiscal bleeding.

 

[TerryK]

I'm sure you are correct. The pressure to diagnose Covid for the cases they do treat must be enormous, if only to slow the fiscal bleeding.

Actually Covid patients in the hospital actually forces them to reduce the allowable number of ICU beds and heart operations, and other much more profitable elective surgeries and non invasive treatment for strokes and other things. In other words they lose money.

 

[TheSearcher]

Actually Covid patients in the hospital actually forces them to reduce the allowable number of ICU beds and heart operations, and other much more profitable elective surgeries and non invasive treatment for strokes and other things. In other words they lose money.

Also true and at the same time that my statement is true. The non-Covid procedures were returning until last week, when governments shut that stuff back down.

If the only money you can make (profit notwithstanding) is on Covid work, there is a logical tendency to "find" as much Covid as you can, just to try to stay afloat. It doesn't matter if other things are profitable, if those other things have been denied.

 

[TerryK]

Also true and at the same time that my statement is true. The non-Covid procedures were returning until last week, when governments shut that stuff back down.

Well we have 50 hospitals here in Florida who have no more ICU rooms.
Would you like to go in to get your knee replaced or gall bladder removed and have to share a room or partial floor with covid patients?
The hospital I was in still took care of the most serious life threatening problems, but couldn't wait to be out of covid business and back into regular overcharging the insurance companies for all those elective surgeries.
Many people without Covid refused to go to the ER or get elective surgeries because it's dangerous.


I know I spent over two months in and out of the hospital (4times) in Feb, March and April due to a botched gall bladder operation. Gurney pushers, orderlies, and food service people were quitting because the low wages just weren't risking their lives for anymore. Many older nurses were deciding it was time to retire.
The ER which I had the pleasure??? of visiting 3 times was a nightmare.

Hell I was supposed to get cataract surgery which I cancelled and will wait until this crap ends. I don't want a doctor and assistants to be hovering over me, inches from my face, hoping none of them are Covid + and asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic.

 

[TheSearcher]

Well we have 50 hospitals here in Florida who have no more ICU rooms.

ICU-dedicated rooms. ICU equipment is in copious supply nationwide, and other rooms can become ICU capable with that equipment. This does not address the tendency of hospitals to designate every case they can as a Covid case.

Would you like to go in to get your knee replaced or gall bladder removed and have to share a room or partial floor with covid patients?

No, I wouldn't. That's not in your control or mine, however.

The hospital I was in still took care of the most serious life threatening problems, but couldn't wait to be out of covid business and back into regular overcharging the insurance companies for all those elective surgeries.

Of that I have no doubt. But if that's all they're allowed to treat, that's what they'll treat. If they are hemorrhaging money (they are) then the temptation is severe to call everything they can a Covid case.

I know I spent over two months in and out of the hospital (4times) in Feb, March and April due to a botched gall bladder operation. Gurney pushers, orderlies, and food service people were quitting because the low wages just weren't risking their lives for anymore. Many older nurses were deciding it was time to retire.
The ER which I had the pleasure??? of visiting 3 times was a nightmare.

I'm truly sorry for your experience. I say that with no humor at all, no ridicule. My mom started chemo just as this Covid thing began, and a bad reaction to her first treatment put her in the hospital overnight. If this had happened just a couple of weeks later, she would likely have been vented, and probably would have died. Please don't think I'm unattached to this mess, it is definitely more that a passing political gambit or something for me to exploit in a debate.

 

[Dozdoats]

The Agenda will not be overcome by mere facts.

 

[intothatgoodnight]

The Agenda will not be overcome by mere facts.

You are on a roll, today, Doz.

Concur.


intothegoodnight

 

[Melodi]

OK, I am sorry if I left the impression that I thought COVID 19 was some sort of "cash cow" for hospitals, rather that it makes sense for them to turn every case of anything that they do have to treat that isn't covered by insurance already and/or a usual money-spinner like hip replacements, etc.

The sorts of lucrative operations that, of course, they want to get back to doing, but while they are prevented from doing those operations except in dire emergencies, they are going to take everything off of Uncle Sam that they can to cover their operational costs.

And if that means listing everyone they pin the COVID label on will have COVID, that makes perfect financial sense.

The Government Payments may not fully cover everything but it will cover more than the zero they are likely to get out of ICU patients with no usable insurance, even if the real problem is an underlying chronic condition or other dangerous sudden illness.

 

[Double_A]

Actually Covid patients in the hospital actually forces them to reduce the allowable number of ICU beds and heart operations, and other much more profitable elective surgeries and non invasive treatment for strokes and other things. In other words they lose money.

I posted a number of das ago that my area (Silicon Valley CA) TV advertisements have been running telling people of our community that Hospitals are open to serve all your needs safety. Elective surgeries, Tests, and other procedures can be done without fear. Don't neglect your health come on in they say. (This is what pays the hospital's bills)

 

[ktrapper]

We have a FOAF in Colorado. His neighbor went to get tested in one of the drive thru testing stations this week. The line was long. She filled out all of the paper work, waited and waited until she just had to leave. She Left the line without getting tested. She received a phone call the next day letting her know she tested positive.
Trust them??
Not a freakin chance.

 

[Border Collie Dad]

We have a FOAF in Colorado. His neighbor went to get tested in one of the drive thru testing stations this week. The line was long. She filled out all of the paper work, waited and waited until she just had to leave. She Left the line without getting tested. She received a phone call the next day letting her know she tested positive.
Trust them??
Not a freakin chance.

At least the counts are going up.

 

[TerryK]

We have a FOAF in Colorado. His neighbor went to get tested in one of the drive thru testing stations this week. The line was long. She filled out all of the paper work, waited and waited until she just had to leave. She Left the line without getting tested. She received a phone call the next day letting her know she tested positive.
Trust them??
Not a freakin chance.

Hospitals are for the most part not doing the testing.
It's the government, whether county or state
Yes people are waiting 5 and 6 hours in a mile long line for a test.
I thought testing was supposed to be available everywhere and that we had too many "powerful", "great" tests?
And response times here in Florida are now running 5 days or more. Like that helps at all.
My sons is a Nurse Practitioner and does wound care in peoples homes. He has had several tests, and had to wait over a week for results. In the mean time, while waiting for results, he is expected to treat people with open wounds in their homes. The government has botched testing from day one.

 

[TerryK]

At least the counts are going up.

Counts can and should go up.
As is basic knowledge to anyone with high school math, it is the positivity rate that counts.
10% positive results on a thousand tests , or 10% positive results on a hundred tests. It still says 10% of your sample population is positive for Covid.
The advantage of testing more is that you can identify more of those that have Covid and prevent them from spreading it, or treat them if they are symptomatic.


Giving hundreds of thousands more tests just means you can actually identify the people who have the disease by the thousands instead of only catching the 10 who pop positive if you only test 100 people.

 

[TheSearcher]

Counts can and should go up.
As is basic knowledge to anyone with high school math, it is the positivity rate that counts.
10% positive results on a thousand tests , or 10% positive results on a hundred tests. It still says 10% of your sample population is positive for Covid.
The advantage of testing more is that you can identify more of those that have Covid and prevent them from spreading it, or treat them if they are symptomatic.


Giving hundreds of thousands more tests just means you can actually identify the people who have the disease by the thousands instead of only catching the 10 who pop positive if you only test 100 people.

You missed the entire point of BCD's comment, in the context of the post to which he responded.

 

[Dozdoats]

The government has botched testing from day one.

They did indeed. Sad, isn't it?