FOOD Making my first loaf of bread machine bread this evening - SECOND LOAF, post 133; now THIRD, post 154 - fell. What went wrong?

20Gauge

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Donald Shimoda said:
I wonder how many bread machines will end up in the thrift stores by say, August (last time I checked - about 6 months ago - the local thrift stores had about 5-6 each).
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Ours usually has 3 or so, but seldom are they "new"ish. Generally they take a beating and are then dropped off. It is getting harder to get a "new" one from the thrift store.
 
hunybee

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Groucho said:
Started with a bread maker 30 years ago. I got tired of it and sold it. Picked up a stand mixer and a bread making book by Williams Sanoma (?). Some good loaf recipes but I knew there was more. Then signed up for some baking classes at a culinary school a few towns over. Oh baby, the world opened up. Baker's formula, measure by weight not volume, and some good tips. In the last few years I was awarded with blue ribbons from the county fair and even got a "Best In Class" fancy pants ribbon for the rye.

For some reason, I have really gotten into bread baking. A few years back I even trailed a baker for a week. That was a bitch. Those guys start at two in the morning and deal with 50# sacks of flour and pounds of yeast all in a giant Hobar mixer that could be used to make concrete in a pinch.

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you know what really sucks with those freaking AWESOME mixers?

getting the dough out lol
 
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Melodi said:
Notes on bread baker bread:

1. About one in 5 to 10 loaves will be a "hockey puck" or "doorstop" no matter what you do - dogs love them, especially mixed with a bit of milk.

2. The texture is a bit different than oven cooked bread, - Nightwolf hates this which is why I never cook in mine but use it as a kneading machine because my shoulder no longer lets me knead bread several times a week (occasionally yes).

3. The bread machine is excellent for use on a timer so you have hot bread in the morning (and many machines can make smaller loaves so you can do this every day - even Nightwolf used to like it hot when he had to leave the house early).

4. There are thousands of great recipes out there both for in the machine and to use the machine to make the dough and then form it into rolls, English Muffins (cooked on a griddle), cinnamon buns, bagels - lots and lots of fun things.

Enjoy your new hobby, it is one that never gets old (in my experience and I started around 1976).
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We have never gotten the hockey puck unless we screwed up the mix. We does happen.

The use of the breadmaker as a kneader is a good way to make bread in the oven and other things. We often use ours to make pizza. We add the ingredients in the am, set the timer and when we get home, we have the dough ready to stretch and bake. The rest of the pizza takes only a few minutes to prep.

You can also make simple jams in the bread maker. There are recipes for that. Nothing better than home grown blueberries that you can make into jam with the breadmaker. Just store it in the fridge.
 
hunybee

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bread machines are awesome for making the entire thing, using it for making dough to shape and freeze, and for simply kneading.

it is nice (along with a good stand up mixer) for making the dough for tortillas and flatbreads
 
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Dennis Olson said:
I FINALLY have all the ingredients i need to make bread. So about 30 minutes ago, I started my first loaf of bread in the machine. Simple white bread to start. Should be done in about 3 ½ hours. I’ll let you know how it comes out. Since I only had unbleached flour (and don’t want to open my Saskatchewan flour for an “experiment”), I added some wheat gluten to turn it into “bread flour.”
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Dennis
Was looking at bread machines, which one did you buy?
 
Dennis Olson

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I didn’t. 20gauge had an old one that he was willing to send me, because I couldn’t find any reasonably priced units (that is, under $300) available. Anywhere.

However, in my research on them, I liked the Cuisinart CBK-200 convection bread machine. I figured that I might as well explore options since I couldn’t obtain one anyway.
 
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Dennis Olson said:
I didn’t. 20gauge had an old one that he was willing to send me, because I couldn’t find any reasonably priced units (that is, under $300) available. Anywhere.

However, in my research on them, I liked the Cuisinart CBK-200 convection bread machine. I figured that I might as well explore options since I couldn’t obtain one anyway.
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LOL

I went to the local Goodwill and got it for a couple of bucks..... only one they had... I kept my two machines!! We use them....
 
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Dennis Olson said:
After the rest period, I got it out of the pan, sliced off an end, slathered it up, and am enjoying it now. Perfect appearance, perfect taste, perfect consistency. The rest of the loaf is in a little breadbox I bought just for my new hobby.
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Since you live in Austin, I will tell you about an experiment I did with my bread in Plano.
I made a loaf and I bought a loaf.
I left the store bought loaf on the counter in its wrapper.
I put the homemade loaf in a Tupperware box on the counter.
Side by side.
The homemade loaf started growing green mold in about 3-4 days.
The store bought loaf never did.

I started keeping my homemade loaf in the fridge.

Below is the recipe for my favorite loaf except I use whole wheat rather than Rye
www.allrecipes.com

Basic Rye Bread

This is a bread machine recipe that includes a little cocoa to darken the loaf and caraway seeds for extra bite.
www.allrecipes.com www.allrecipes.com
 
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Groucho said:
Yeah, making bread is fun.
Dark pumpernickel rye.

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first attempt to make burger buns. Good, but I need to shape them better.

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About had a meltdown looking at that dark pumpernickel rye. I was raised on that. Now gluten-free and that's what I miss the most.
Nice work on your baking!
 
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Cardinal said:
That is exactly what I used KMR.
My issue is that I have been zero carb for almost a year now.
The gut micro biome changes when you don't feed it carbs.
Those bacteria that feed on sugar die off.
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that happened to me years ago when I was on a macrobiotic diet, had a horrible allergic type of reaction.

Judy
 
jward

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Your long term storage places, as well as bulk sellers, probably have the yeast, gluten, and flours.
Do consider just using the machine to get the kneading done, and oven baking in your own pans-
it really extends the utility
 
Dennis Olson

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I do have a loaf pan. I use it for meatloaf. I’ll use it on specialty breads later on, when I know a little more. But the machine works perfectly to make the dough within the boundaries of my limited counter space.
 
jward

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yup- pick up some italian loaf pans too, you won't regret it ::: wipes drool off chin :::
...and don't fergit the whole world of sweet breads :D
 
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I used to make a mean sourdough wheat loaf in my early 20's ~ I would take it to my office (large, corporate) in downtown Atlanta and everyone raved about it ~ I think even a couple of marriage proposals were turned down during this time (lol) ~ mmmmm, slathered with butter and honey is my favorite way to eat it. Okay, time to get a sourdough starter going ~ haven't made it in years!

garnetgirl
 
hunybee

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Groucho said:
Here's how it's done. This guy's a master baker. Wow, smooth. 39 min. Catch the part where he pulls the dough. One example is around 12.29.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3Sum2PnhM
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that one is sort of flat at the bottom. that would help as it is wider and easier to get into. the ones that are more like a huge kitchenaid bowl are harder to get it out of. and we would mix 25lb bags of flour plusjust about 2 gallons of water. after that mixed, it was heavy.

the two things i wish i had from the restaurant days are the huge mixers and the walk in coolers and freezers. life would be awesome lol

who am i kidding. the industrial ovens and the industrial dishwashers and huge counter space rocked too! HAHAHA
 
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hunybee said:
that one is sort of flat at the bottom. that would help as it is wider and easier to get into. the ones that are more like a huge kitchenaid bowl are harder to get it out of. and we would mix 25lb bags of flour plusjust about 2 gallons of water. after that mixed, it was heavy.

the two things i wish i had from the restaurant days are the huge mixers and the walk in coolers and freezers. life would be awesome lol

who am i kidding. the industrial ovens and the industrial dishwashers and huge counter space rocked too! HAHAHA
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Can you cook a witch in them?
 
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hunybee said:
that one is sort of flat at the bottom. that would help as it is wider and easier to get into. the ones that are more like a huge kitchenaid bowl are harder to get it out of. and we would mix 25lb bags of flour plusjust about 2 gallons of water. after that mixed, it was heavy.

the two things i wish i had from the restaurant days are the huge mixers and the walk in coolers and freezers. life would be awesome lol

who am i kidding. the industrial ovens and the industrial dishwashers and huge counter space rocked too! HAHAHA
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You just described my fantasy kitchen with a HUGE double bowl sink and that power sprayer over the faucet! And don't forget the faucet for filling big pots with piping hot water.
 
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hunybee said:
who am i kidding. the industrial ovens and the industrial dishwashers and huge counter space rocked too! HAHAHA
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packyderms_wife said:
You just described my fantasy kitchen with a HUGE double bowl sink and that power sprayer over the faucet! And don't forget the faucet for filling big pots with piping hot water.
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You two nailed it. Along with that, I want the flat top and the 10 top along with cooler drawers. Make the ovens convection and toss in a salamander broiler. One thing......I only cooked "professionally" for about 8 weeks, but I did notice a two inch gas line going into the kitchen. That's gonna be expensive.
I also want a multi tiered bread oven.

If I win the lottery, you two can come visit and cook in my kitchen. Anybody else here can do the same.

I'll hire a dish washer and pay well. Those folks were never paid enough. But then, I didn't think a line cook was paid too well either. That is a younger man's job, by the way. I did it at 55 and actually went down hill physically due to the work. I was working three jobs at the time since I had been laid off. I went with the easy jobs and was a substitute teacher and a rang safety officer for the state. That's another story for another day.
 
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Our favorite gift from our wedding was a bread maker. We loved using that machine, the smell of baking bread is the best! One day I got in a hurry adding my ingredients for sweet bread, got it mixing and let it bake. For an hour I eagerly anticipated taking the hot bread out and slathering it with butter. Finally, it was ready! I took one bite and it tasted just like a salt block. I put salt in instead of sugar! Well, at least the cows would eat it. So I threw it out in the pasture and realized sometime later I forgot to get the little mixing paddle out of the bottom of the loaf! We never bought a replacement because we realized how many pounds we were putting on!
 
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Groucho said:
You two nailed it. Along with that, I want the flat top and the 10 top along with cooler drawers. Make the ovens convection and toss in a salamander broiler. One thing......I only cooked "professionally" for about 8 weeks, but I did notice a two inch gas line going into the kitchen. That's gonna be expensive.
I also want a multi tiered bread oven.

If I win the lottery, you two can come visit and cook in my kitchen. Anybody else here can do the same.

I'll hire a dish washer and pay well. Those folks were never paid enough. But then, I didn't think a line cook was paid too well either. That is a younger man's job, by the way. I did it at 55 and actually went down hill physically due to the work. I was working three jobs at the time since I had been laid off. I went with the easy jobs and was a substitute teacher and a rang safety officer for the state. That's another story for another day.
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I worked as a dishwasher, line cook for a supposed chef who didn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground and more often than not ended up doing his job... he was too busy getting stoned, the owner of 5h3 restaurant wouldn’t hire me for 5he position because I was a female... and I also worked and stocked 5he salad bar that included a potato bar and a taco bar, with three types of soup.
 
Laurane

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My daughter has a fancy Cuisinart and she lets it mix and knead the dough, then while it is doing that, she turns on the dryer for 10 mins and sets the bowl in it to rise for 30 mins, with the door shut. It comes out perfectly every time and then she bakes it in the oven. She likes the lighter texture, rather than letting it rise and bake in the Cuisinart.
 
wlf0wtr

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All this talk of bread making is getting me inspired. My mother had given me her ancient of days bread machine so I've hauled it out and am going to attempt some bread. She said it's probably over 20 years old. She even had the old instruction manuals for me. IMG_20200411_105238373.jpg
 
Lee2

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wlf0wtr, that is a nice looking bread machine! Hope it works well. Mine is a vertical el cheapo from the late 90's. Don't know if it even works but I guess I could try it out.
 
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Laurane said:
My daughter has a fancy Cuisinart and she lets it mix and knead the dough, then while it is doing that, she turns on the dryer for 10 mins and sets the bowl in it to rise for 30 mins, with the door shut. It comes out perfectly every time and then she bakes it in the oven. She likes the lighter texture, rather than letting it rise and bake in the Cuisinart.
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Dryer?
 
wlf0wtr

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Lee2 said:
wlf0wtr, that is a nice looking bread machine! Hope it works well. Mine is a vertical el cheapo from the late 90's. Don't know if it even works but I guess I could try it out.
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Thank you - I hope yours works too. I haven't tried mine out yet so all my excitement could be for nothing. :) The next hurdle will be finding flour and yeast at the store. Luckily toilet paper is not a required ingredient...
 
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