Make money with old coins (?)

Slydersan

Veteran Member
With gold and silver prices soaring lately with probably no stop is sight, I figured I'd share a possible way to get yourself some precious metals under cost and hopefully make you some money in the future. I debated even posting this 1) because I'm sure someone will criticize it and 2) cuz then my money making supply might dry up! :lol:

Some of you might not know this, but a few of the big antique stores in your area are probably broken down into little booths throughout the store. These booths are then rented by smaller dealers that don't have the desire or cash to run an entire store by themselves, so they rent small spaces at one or maybe many different antique "malls". Many of these dealers might only make it to their booths once a week or maybe only once a month. This means that they cannot keep up with the every climbing "value" of any silver coins in their booth. Which means you can find these "under valued" coins and get them cheap.

Here's the plan. Figure out what the "value" of different coins are based on silver content. (I'll try to include a chart below to give you an example. Then, go to these big antique malls and scour the booths for old silver coins. Start out with any dollar, half-dollar, quarter or dime from 1964 or before to be safe. (Search some of the threads on TB2K for more detailed info.) If any coin is below the "value" in your chart - buy it. A precious metals dealer will probably charge you anywhere from 10-20% of a coin's "melt value" when they buy it, so you might have to hold on to some of these coins for a bit to actually make money. But I personally don't think silver is gonna quit climbing anytime soon.

Here's my example (all weights according to my coin Red Book) and keep in mind that this is based solely on the weight of silver in it - it doesn't take into account any rarity of the coin/condition of the coin/etc.:

A Silver Dollar has .77344 ounces of pure silver in it. If silver is at $10/oz that means you'd have to find a silver dollar at $7.73 to "break even". So, read my chart below as Coin type - weight of silver in oz. - silver at $10/oz - silver at $12/oz (prices rounded.)

Dollar -- .77344oz. -- $7.73 -- $9.28
Half Dollar -- .36169oz. -- $3.62 -- $4.34
Quarter -- .18084oz. -- $1.81 -- $2.17
Dime -- .07234oz. -- $0.72 -- $0.86


I hope that comes out OK...not having tabs available, sucks.

Anyways, I actually put this into practice the last few weeks. I've found quite a few silver dimes for sale for $0.60 - 0.80 a piece which at $12 silver means I "made" 6 cents a piece roughly -- and many silver quarters around $1.60-1.90 - and a handful of half dollars for #3.50-4.00. All well under my price target.

So don't think that you have to be a big time investor to get into the precious metals market. Hit some slow moving antique stores and start protecting your ass(ets). :groucho:

-Sly
 
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manybooks

Inactive
I bought $150 in half-dollars at the bank last week and found 5-40% silver kennedys. (made 1965-70) Ordered two $500 boxes of halves for delivery at my bank Friday. Will go thru them, cull any silver I find, deposit the rest and start all over.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Good chart thank you. I think I will transfer it to a spreadsheet with an area to put in the current price of silver. With the price rising like it has been I'd rather let the computer do the calculating. What are we today $12.80/oz?

D_A

P.S. I know you said those weights are of PURE silver, not coin (90%) silver right?

Slydersan said:
With gold and silver prices soaring lately with probably no stop is sight, I figured I'd share a possible way to get yourself some precious metals under cost and hopefully make you some money in the future. I debated even posting this 1) because I'm sure someone will criticize it and 2) cuz then my money making supply might dry up! :lol:

Some of you might not know this, but a few of the big antique stores in your area are probably broken down into little booths throughout the store. These booths are then rented by smaller dealers that don't have the desire or cash to run an entire store by themselves, so they rent small spaces at one or maybe many different antique "malls". Many of these dealers might only make it to their booths once a week or maybe only once a month. This means that they cannot keep up with the every climbing "value" of any silver coins in their booth. Which means you can find these "under valued" coins and get them cheap.

Here's the plan. Figure out what the "value" of different coins are based on silver content. (I'll try to include a chart below to give you an example. Then, go to these big antique malls and scour the booths for old silver coins. Start out with any dollar, half-dollar, quarter or dime from 1964 or before to be safe. (Search some of the threads on TB2K for more detailed info.) If any coin is below the "value" in your chart - buy it. A precious metals dealer will probably charge you anywhere from 10-20% of a coin's "melt value" when they buy it, so you might have to hold on to some of these coins for a bit to actually make money. But I personally don't think silver is gonna quit climbing anytime soon.

Here's my example (all weights according to my coin Red Book) and keep in mind that this is based solely on the weight of silver in it - it doesn't take into account any rarity of the coin/condition of the coin/etc.:

A Silver Dollar has .77344 ounces of pure silver in it. If gold is at $10/oz that means you'd have to find a silver dollar at $7.73 to "break even". So, read my chart below as Coin type - weight of silver in oz. - silver at $10/oz - silver at $12/oz (prices rounded.)

Dollar -- .77344oz. -- $7.73 -- $9.28
Half Dollar -- .36169oz. -- $3.62 -- $4.34
Quarter -- .18084oz. -- $1.81 -- $2.17
Dime -- .07234oz. -- $0.72 -- $0.86


I hope that comes out OK...not having tabs available, sucks.

Anyways, I actually put this into practice the last few weeks. I've found quite a few silver dimes for sale for $0.60 - 0.80 a piece which at $12 silver means I "made" 6 cents a piece roughly -- and many silver quarters around $1.60-1.90 - and a handful of half dollars for #3.50-4.00. All well under my price target.

So don't think that you have to be a big time investor to get into the precious metals market. Hit some slow moving antique stores and start protecting your ass(ets). :groucho:

-Sly
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
Double_A said:
Good chart thank you. I think I will transfer it to a spreadsheet with an area to put in the current price of silver. With the price rising like it has been I'd rather let the computer do the calculating. What are we today $12.80/oz?

D_A

P.S. I know you said those weights are of PURE silver, not coin (90%) silver right?


Yeah, I didn't know how else to post the chart other than what I did. A spreadsheet would be ideal.

The weights listed are the actual amount of silver in a coin. So I guess that it would be the amount of "pure silver" in a 90% silver coin. :p
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
manybooks said:
I bought $150 in half-dollars at the bank last week and found 5-40% silver kennedys. (made 1965-70) Ordered two $500 boxes of halves for delivery at my bank Friday. Will go thru them, cull any silver I find, deposit the rest and start all over.


Yeah I didn't go in to the 40% half dollars or the 35% nickels from WWII. I just figured I'd keep it simple. And of course U.S. Silver Eagle bullion coins are 1 full oz. of silver (but are amazingly close to the size of an old time silver dollar - just to confuse us all even more.) :lol:

That was a good pickup for 50c a piece. I sometimes do that with rolls of pennies. I'm not sure of the weight of copper in a pre 1982 penny....but it's gotta be getting close to the point where an old penny is worth more than 1c just in the copper value alone.
 

bobby.knight

Senior Member
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You have got to be kidding me,, no offense, but there are 3 places you might find coins under spot prices, yard sale, flea market, or auctions. I have been going to auctions for years and have set up at flea markets for years, selling nothing but coins, comics, etc. Whenever another dealer has a coin(s) they come over to me to either buy it or tell them the value. Same with antique shops, same with estate auctions. They contact the people ahead of time to insure the best prices is received for the object. These people are not stupid, for instance I have friends in the business that can quote the current prices from sports memorbelia, furniture, glassware, jewelry, you name it, and we help each other. You might get a deal where some old person is set up at a flea market and sells Indian pennies for .30 each (this actually happened) but it is rare. I attend a Friday auction and if there are coins in it they call me and I go to price the coins ahead of time. Usually Wednesday or Thursday.

I wouldn't bother with the pennies, 40% halves, war nickels, go for the gusto, at this point in time buy bullion, with the prices surging, I personal believe that you should forget the silver coins, buy bullion. Silver rounds .999 silver, and forget the Franklin mint crap, buy bullion.

You should already have silver dollars, halves, quarters, set aside in the event of a dollar crash.

Just my opinion, sorry for any rant,

Bobby.Knight NBC
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
bobby.knight said:
You have got to be kidding me,, no offense, but there are 3 places you might find coins under spot prices, yard sale, flea market, or auctions. I have been going to auctions for years and have set up at flea markets for years, selling nothing but coins, comics, etc. Whenever another dealer has a coin(s) they come over to me to either buy it or tell them the value. Same with antique shops, same with estate auctions. They contact the people ahead of time to insure the best prices is received for the object. These people are not stupid, for instance I have friends in the business that can quote the current prices from sports memorbelia, furniture, glassware, jewelry, you name it, and we help each other. You might get a deal where some old person is set up at a flea market and sells Indian pennies for .30 each (this actually happened) but it is rare. I attend a Friday auction and if there are coins in it they call me and I go to price the coins ahead of time. Usually Wednesday or Thursday.

I wouldn't bother with the pennies, 40% halves, war nickels, go for the gusto, at this point in time buy bullion, with the prices surging, I personal believe that you should forget the silver coins, buy bullion. Silver rounds .999 silver, and forget the Franklin mint crap, buy bullion.

You should already have silver dollars, halves, quarters, set aside in the event of a dollar crash.

Just my opinion, sorry for any rant,

Bobby.Knight NBC


(/sigh) Where do I start? Yes you should already have precious metals set aside for a dollar crash - but many people simply don't or are just getting into prepping and have no idea where to start. I apologize for all of those newbie preppers that don't have the benefit from your years of experience.

As I said in my original post. I went just last Friday and bought undervalued coins at an antique mall. Sorry if it doesn't work in your area. But in my area, and maybe others, it does.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Slydersan,

Excellent idea...hey, I'm heading out in a few minutes, and I'll be going right by a place that has the rented space to sell coins. I'll check and see if the owner stopped by to update any of the prices...if not, I'll be coming home with some goodies. Thanks for the post. I'd have never thought of this. I'll update later.

CC

update: The dealer had his prices above the current silver value except for a few quarters (dates of '62 - '64...not that dates matter) which were priced just a bit below current silver value...so, I pretty much struck out, but I still think there are some places where the dealers may have some underpriced stuff...
 
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