CHAT Looking For An Old Photo To Explain Things To My SJW Son

day late

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I know many of us have seen the picture of the one guy in a crowd of Nazi supporters giving the salute, but he wasn't. My son has said that he believes me to be intelligent but doesn't understand how I can't 'see' the truth. I think that photo just might help me make the point, or just pi** him off enough that we won't speak for some time. Either is possible. He's not stupid, just deceived by MSM. What can I say? He's my son. I have to try.
 

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Here's a link to the story - What happened to the man who refused to give a Nazi salute
What happened to the man who refused to give a Nazi salute
August Landmesser, the man reported to be the subject of a viral online photo, was a member of the Nazi Party until 1935 when he decided to marry a Jewish woman.
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The famous 1936 photograph in which one man, believed to be August Landmesser, refuses to give the Nazi salute.
July 1, 2015
Nearly 80 years have passed since a camera captured the moment when a man stood with his hands down among the sea of Germans giving a Nazi salute.
It was in Germany in 1936 and a newly built ship was about to leave the harbor of Hamburg. The photo shows a crowd of people, who are believed to be workers, raising their arms for the infamous gesture, except for a man believed to be August Landmesser who is standing with his arms crossed, squinting.
August Landmesser became a member of the Nazi Party in 1931, according to Fasena, an educational site on the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz. He remained a member until 1935 when at 25 he decided to marry a Jewish woman named Irma Eckler.

Under Nuremberg laws instituted in September 1935, Landmesser was not allowed to marry Ms. Eckler, therefore they stayed unmarried.
Landmesser's first daughter, Ingrid, was born in October 1935, and in 1937, while Eckler was pregnant with their second daughter, Irene, Landmesser attempted to flee Germany to Denmark to find work, but was arrested and sent to jail for “Rassenschande” or “dishonoring the race.”
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Eckler is believed to have been detained by the Gestapo in 1938 and sent to a concentration camp. Her last letter to her mother was sent in January 1942.

Precise numbers are still debated, but between 1933 and 1945 German troops killed some six million Jews as well as others, including Poles, Roma and Soviet prisoners of war.
Landmesser was discharged from prison in 1941 and in 1944 was drafted to serve in the war. He was later declared missing in action and believed dead.
Irene Landmesser who after her parents’ arrests was separated from her sister and raised by foster parents, has documented her family history in a book titled "A family torn apart by "Rassenschande": Political persecution in the Third Reich."

In 1991 the German newspaper, Die Zeitth, published the 1936 photo of the non-saluting German, and Irene Landmesser identified the man as her father.
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The photo went viral in 2011 after a blog that was launched to help with relief efforts for the Japanese earthquake and tsunami shared it on its Facebook page. Since then, the photo has been shared more than 128,000 times.
No one can tell what was going through that man's mind when he stood among the saluting crowd without raising his arm for salute, or what he did after the photo was taken. But since then, he is known on the Internet as the man who refused to give a Nazi salute.
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Marthanoir

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I know many of us have seen the picture of the one guy in a crowd of Nazi supporters giving the salute, but he wasn't. My son has said that he believes me to be intelligent but doesn't understand how I can't 'see' the truth. I think that photo just might help me make the point, or just pi** him off enough that we won't speak for some time. Either is possible. He's not stupid, just deceived by MSM. What can I say? He's my son. I have to try.

Don't forget to remind him the Nazi Party was the National Socialist Workers Party and Hitler was an artist and a vegetarian.
 

day late

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Don't forget to remind him the Nazi Party was the National Socialist Workers Party and Hitler was an artist and a vegetarian.

I have reminded him that my maternal grandfather, his great grandfather, was at Normandy fighting German socialists. They da*n near killed him. That his grandfather, my father, served in Korea fighting Chinese and N. Korean socialists. They da*n near killed him. I have reminded him that his father came full circle and had some times with West German socialists wanting to make Western Europe into the socialist workers paradise that was the Soviet Union at the time. They da*n near killed me. But he has been brainwashed by "higher education" and I just don't 'see' it.

Well they say a picture says 1,000 words. Maybe this one will get through. At least I hope so. Bone of my bone, flesh of my flesh. What else can I do?
 

FireDance

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Although I have seen this picture before, I never realized how unenthusiastic most look.

Hope this brings some understanding to your son. It really is difficult to change their minds about anything when you have become extremely stupid. I know, I am extremely stupid also.
 

Publius

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There is so many documentary's out there and even on YouTube, you can't make up the old film footage.
Heck Antifa is doing everything Benito Mussolini did and even using the same emblems and flags his organization used to install a fascist government. Yelling at people and attacking anyone who disagreed with them and calling them fascist while at the same time working at putting a fascist form of government in place.
This is all well documented history.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I’m going to give you a little free advice.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

You could show him thousands of pictures, and tell him “old war stories” ceaselessly until your last breath. None of it will matter. What makes me say that? Because the “fault” for his beliefs is the public school system. You can’t fight 12+ years of hardcore Communist indoctrination. Further, world and US history haven’t been taught in many years; at least not factually. You should have home schooled him.

Sorry man, but that’s how I see it. The kid is lost.
 

Oscar Wilde

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.... The kid is lost.

Mmmnn ... don't quit on 'im just yet ... but don't let him put you in danger.

Give 'em a little runnin room so that when he "stumbles" ... and he will stumble, he don't "break" nuthin too serious.
Much of what WE were taught turned out to be nothing more than behavioral controls, lies, lies and more lies ... and he likely knows this. What does the future hold? What is the present?

We don't have the answers and many of the ones we provided our youth as we raised 'em turned out not to be true.

O.W.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Years ago one of the offspring hit me with the "they're refugees fleeing war!". I raised an eyebrow and got busy.

I gathered up pictures of refugees WWII, famine etc and then I pulled up pictures of the "refugees" pouring into Europe at the time. I asked for a count of the women, children and elderly. The point was quickly understood.

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
Years ago one of the offspring hit me with the "they're refugees fleeing war!". I raised an eyebrow and got busy.

I gathered up pictures of refugees WWII, famine etc and then I pulled up pictures of the "refugees" pouring into Europe at the time. I asked for a count of the women, children and elderly. The point was quickly understood.

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.
You’re referring to the surplus of “military age males”, I assume.
 

von Koehler

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What might be an even example was a group of German college students ("White Rose") who circulated an anti-NSDAP newsletter.

They were tracked down, tried, and executed by being guillotined. At the time, most people considered them traitors.
 
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Another is of the peasant farmer being given his last rights by a priest before his execution by Che. Because he refused to give them his little farm. I'll see if I can find it again.
Okay...sigh. when I couldn't find the meme where I originally saw it I did a little digging. It wasn't factual. My apologies for not verifying first.
 

Redleg

Veteran Member
Maybe when he see's others not working but living better then him he might wake up and realize he a working fool to pay for those that won't work?
 

day late

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It is my intent to present him with the picture along with a caption something like;

"What it is like being an anti-vax, free thinking, conservative in America today."

Maybe I should change that to "in Joe Biden's America."
 
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xtreme_right

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You could show him thousands of pictures, and tell him “old war stories” ceaselessly until your last breath. None of it will matter.

I disagree. We moved to Colorado when my daughter was 18 and she was surrounded by liberals. She became pretty liberal, which was upsetting. She met a Conservative man who completely changed her outlook.

They are moving to Texas to be closer to us because they can’t stand being in liberal Colorado any longer.

That’s two answered prayers. I pray for my children and am amazed how, once again, the Lord answered my prayers better than I could have imagined.

Pray for your son, Day Late. Even if your prayers aren’t answered immediately, the Lord hears them and will answer in His perfect timing.
 

day late

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Pray for your son, Day Late. Even if your prayers aren’t answered immediately, the Lord hears them and will answer in His perfect timing.

I have, I do and I will. But who knows the mind of God? Maybe He will open my son's eyes or maybe He will allow him to travel the path he has chosen. All I can do is try and pray. May The Lord God Almighty put His words in my mouth to speak to my son.
 
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