WTF?!? Lizzo Says Body Positivity Movement Leaving Behind Women in Sizes 18+

Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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Lizzo Says Body Positivity Movement Leaving Behind Women in Sizes 18+

Alana Mastrangelo
2-3 minutes

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Pop star Lizzo said that the “body positivity” movement is “commercialized” and has yet to “normalize” women sizes 18 and over in a recent Vogue interview.

Lizzo said that women featured in the “body positivity” movement are not big enough, and “girls with back fat, girls with bellies that hang, girls with thighs that aren’t separated” are not being featured often enough.

“It’s commercialized,” the 32-year-old singer, who will be on the October cover of Vogue, told the magazine. “Now, you look at the hashtag ‘body positive,’ and you see smaller-framed girls, curvier girls. Lotta white girls.”

“And I feel no ways about that, because inclusivity is what my message is always about,” she added. “I’m glad that this conversation is being included in the mainstream narrative.”

But in Lizzo’s opinion, the movement is not quite big enough.

“What I don’t like is how the people that this term was created for are not benefiting from it,” she said. “Girls with back fat, girls with bellies that hang, girls with thighs that aren’t separated, that overlap. Girls with stretch marks. You know, girls who are in the 18-plus club.”

“They need to be benefiting from… the mainstream effect of body positivity now,” Lizzo continued. “But with everything that goes mainstream, it gets changed. It gets — you know, it gets made acceptable.”

Lizzo went on to say that believes calling herself “body positive” is now a “lazy” sentiment, as she believes the body positivity movement should be normalized to the point that it is no longer considered “body positive.”

“I think it’s lazy for me to just say I’m body positive at this point,” said Lizzo. “It’s easy. I would like to be body-normative. I want to normalize my body, and not just be like, ‘Ooh, look at this cool movement. Being fat is body positive.’ No, being fat is normal.”

“I think now, I owe it to the people who started this to not just stop here,” she added. “We have to make people uncomfortable again, so that we can continue to change. Change is always uncomfortable, right?”

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patriotgal

patriotgal

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Don't care to watch her but do enjoy a couple of her songs. Blame the grands. Is there such a thing as body positivity for any young woman?
 
hunybee

hunybee

Veteran Member
No, being fat is not "normal".

It's not bad, but it is not normal.

I don't like this whole "body positivity" crap. It's just another extreme that is being forced down the throat of people.

It is good for people to have options in regards to clothing and things that they need. It is quite a different thing that is going on lately. But in all this "body positivity", there STILL really isn't that much difference in regards options for people.
 
Meemur

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
AlfaMan said:
Normalizing larger body sizes may have an unintended consequence.
If being size 18 or larger becomes mainstream, the rates of heart issues, diabetes etc will grow to even higher levels than they are now.
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Yes!

I have zero problems with clothing manufacturers making plus-size exercise clothing. Let's encourage these folks to exercise and eat better.

Yes, I'm tired of obese women in underwear ads -- they are all over the Internet. I'd rather see them in exercise clothing, posing on bikes or walking on a trail.
 
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Coulter

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AlfaMan said:
No......there are some heavier "heavy duty beauties" cuties running around. Some larger women are absolutely gorgeous. Not the apes in the pictures up above however. Their demeanor makes them ugly-very ugly.
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Heavy duty beauties never did anything for me.

Although I think a few hundred years ago being heavy was "in".

But then I couldn't be heavy if my life depended on it.
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
HOWEVER, within the black community, if you have a friend built like Alicia Keys (who is a VERY fine figure of a lady) she is considered a poor role model for women BECAUSE she is just too thin. THAT equates in the black community to being, poor and a poor partner.

I don't make this stuff up, I just point it out.
 
Doc1

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This is not just about black women. Plenty of white women complain that the culture is hard on big girls. Hey! Stop the whining! IMHO fat guys have it just as rough or rougher than gals do, but you just don't hear men whining about it.

If you want to lose weight - irrespective of gender - keep the pie hole closed more frequently. If you don't want to lose weight I say fine. Just stop telling everyone else that they have to start finding you to be attractive!

Best
Doc
 
GingerN

GingerN

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night driver said:
HOWEVER, within the black community, if you have a friend built like Alicia Keys (who is a VERY fine figure of a lady) she is considered a poor role model for women BECAUSE she is just too thin. THAT equates in the black community to being, poor and a poor partner.

I don't make this stuff up, I just point it out.
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That actually goes back to medievel times when a man with a skinny wife was considered a poor provider. A chunky wife was proof that her husband could feed her well. I have heard it said many times, never trust a skinny cook. I have known only a few exceptions.
As far as the perfect figure goes, it is supposed to be 36 26 36. My mama was 44 22 44 when she met my daddy. He said she was a pretty as a bay Quarter Horse mare. In my family, that was high praise, lol.
 
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Faroe

Un-spun
A pop star complaining about commercialization...
These people are NEVER happy.
Dumbass ghetto ho...why did Vogue even give her a voice?
Cheapens their brand.

Nearly all of these Black, grossly oversized bodies are fueled by welfare, but people just aren't accepting enough, and are "lazy".... Don't f*****g lecture ME about "lazy."
Stupid bitch...
 
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raven

TB Fanatic
the reason so many women are obese . . . and the reason so many americans are obese . . .

is because . . . everything they teach about nutrition is the reverse of what it should be
low fat, low protein, high carb diets pack on weight
but makes good profit margins . . . for everyone
 
Meemur

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
raven said:
but makes good profit margins . . . for everyone
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I understand the root causes and now that I've packed some boxes for the food pantry (all mostly empty carbs with a few cans of sodium-laden meat) I have an understanding of why a lot of low income people are so large and have so many health problems.

The key is still regular exercise (walking is fine) and eating a lot less of that stuff. If high carb food is all there is, then counting calories and fat becomes critical, maybe one large meal and two much smaller ones.

But they don't understand portion control.

That's another problem that was introduced in the 1960s with Johnson's Great Society crap and in the 1970s, food companies experimenting with MSG and HFCS.
 
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raven

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Meemur said:
I understand the root causes and now that I've packed some boxes for the food pantry (all mostly empty carbs with a few cans of sodium-laden meat) I have an understanding of why a lot of low income people are so large and have so many health problems.

The key is still regular exercise (walking is fine) and eating a lot less of that stuff. If high carb food is all there is, then counting calories and fat becomes critical, maybe one large meal and two much smaller ones.

But they don't understand portion control.

That's another problem that was introduced in the 1960s with Johnson's Great Society crap and in the 1970s, food companies experimenting with MSG and HFCS.
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fat does not make you fat.
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Fat may not make you fat, but having nothing to eat but food bank carbs and canned heavily processed foods from the local Stop and Pop will.

Thank you Meemer for pointing on a major reason why today in the USA/UK/Ireland things have reversed instead of the 18th through early 20th century "look" of Rich People are Fat, Poor People are Thin because of a lack of just calories on the lower end, modern agricultural and production practices tend to make the most fattening and metabolically affecting foods the cheapest.

That and they are "engineered" to "taste good" to people in a sort of "slam you in the face way" that children are especially prone to like - and if anyone here does not believe this read one or two of the very well written books by former industry insiders, reporter, chefs, etc who have investigated this industry.

That does not absolve individuals from responsibility but if that's your "diet" along with "school meals" made up of frozen whatz-its like tater tots with "recovered" pink slime or highly processed soy meat/bean-like burrito filling" a child is likely to be either way too thin (if picky) or overweight to obese by age 13.

At which point the metabolism is used to it and it becomes increasingly difficult to take the weight off - both because there may still be no affordable food options and/or the child's taste buds are now simply not geared to find healthy food palatable can make it worse.

A mostly overweight to an obese woman from a family of heavy people - My Dad's nickname was "Tubby" during the Great Depression, I know there are a lot of complexes that tie into this but I've also seen the extreme rise of heavy people in the West.

From my Dad being the "fat one" in a sort of "Spanky and Our Gang" way (there's always one) to my teenagers years where my class had two really heavy teenagers, a number of "chubs" like me and the rest kinda normal or skinny looking.

To today when the UK and to some degree Ireland is catching up with what Wolf and I call "The Chicago Airport look" that we noticed on a flight back to the US 25 years ago or so, which was the first time we saw large crowds of American stuffed unhappily into tracksuits or ill-fitting clothing, and it wasn't one or two people it was hordes of them.

Now every mall in the UK looks like that in normal times and the Welfare Moms in Dublin and Limerick look pretty much like inner-city Moms in the USA, just in the pasty white with red cheeks version instead of the large, black one.

Big Agriculture would like to blame a lack of exercise which also is partly true, but lots of people were "slugs" in front of the "TEE-VEE" when I was a kid instead of a computer and they were not hugely fat and often a normal weight.

Nope, the FOOD changed drastically and that's without even out getting into the whole GMO/pesticide mess.

Meanwhile, I am fully supportive of companies who make good, usable, AFFORDABLE, large-sized and even super-sized clothing - this has generally been a bigger issue for women, even when my Dad was over 400 pounds My Mother could always order clothing from him from "Big and Tall Men's" Catalogs, they just used all tall models but came in sizes like 4x and 5x.

Some of the best clothing companies I have used over the years you a VARIETY of models (in one case from the local community) from the librarian who could have been a fashion model to a 4'8" staff member who at the time was about 160 pounds like I was then and what fit her, fit me.

And you could see the same garment on a woman 6 foot tall and built like a Valkerie and someone 5 tall and 95 pounds soaking wet, and depending on what it was in their size 22 version on a different and heavier local.

I'm not a fan of any catalog not selling to just one group, using only models of one type (fat, thin, short, tall) which is why I buy almost no mainstream clothing and wouldn't even if it fit me.

How can I possibly know if something is going to fit a regular shaped (or even oddly shaped) human being if the clothing is only shown on 6 foot plus, size zero women who are flatter and skinnier than most teenage boys? Answer: you can't.

But extremes of all sorts, done too often, do not good advertising make.
 
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