SCI Lithium discovery in US volcano could be biggest deposit ever found

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Lithium discovery in US volcano could be biggest deposit ever found​


Anthony King

A world-beating deposit of lithium along the Nevada–Oregon border could meet surging demand for this metal, according to a new analysis.

An estimated 20 to 40 million tonnes of lithium metal lie within a volcanic crater formed around 16 million years ago. This is notably larger than the lithium deposits found beneath a Bolivian salt flat, previously considered the largest deposit in the world.
‘If you believe their back-of-the-envelope estimation, this is a very, very significant deposit of lithium,’ says Anouk Borst, a geologist at KU Leuven University and the Royal Museum for Central Africa in Tervuren, Belgium. ‘It could change the dynamics of lithium globally, in terms of price, security of supply and geopolitics.’
New in situ analysis reveals that an unusual claystone, composed of the mineral illite, contains 1.3% to 2.4% of lithium in the volcanic crater. This is almost double the lithium present in the main lithium-bearing clay mineral, magnesium smectite, which is more common than illite.

Some unusual conditions created what could be a uniquely rich volcanic deposit. The crater – the McDermitt caldera – formed 16.4 million years ago when around 1000km3 of magma exploded outwards. The caldera was filled with erupted products of an alkaline magma rich in sodium and potassium, as well as lithium, chlorine and boron. This quickly cooled to form a finely crystalline glassy volcanic rock, ignimbrite, which weathered to produce lithium-rich particles.
A lake subsequently formed in the crater, persisting for hundreds of thousands of years, with weathered volcanic and surrounding materials forming a clay-rich sediment at its bottom. The new analysis suggested that, after the lake had emptied, another bout of volcanism exposed the sediments to a hot, alkaline brine, rich in lithium and potassium.

‘Previous research assumed that the illite was everywhere at depth in the caldera,’ says Thomas Benson, a geologist at Lithium Americas Corporation, and was formed when high temperatures and pressures turned smectite to illite.
Benson’s team proposed that a layer of illite around 40m thick was formed in the lake sediments by this hot brine. The fluid moved upwards along fractures formed as volcanic activity restarted, transforming smectite into illite in the southern part of the crater, Thacker Pass. The result was a claystone rich in lithium.

‘This would be a multistep alteration of lithium-bearing smectite to illite, where hydrothermal fluids enriched the clays in potassium, lithium and fluorine,’ says Borst. ‘They seem to have hit the sweet spot where the clays are preserved close to the surface, so they won’t have to extract as much rock, yet it hasn’t been weathered away yet.’
The material could be best described as looking ‘a bit like brown potter’s clay’, says Christopher Henry, emeritus professor of geology at the University of Nevada in Reno. ‘It is extremely uninteresting, except that it has so much lithium in it.’
‘There’s been a lot of searching for additional [lithium] deposits,’ Henry adds. ‘The United States has just one small lithium-producing brine operation in Nevada.’
A map of the world showing the location, type and size of lithium resources. it includes mainly volcano sedimentary and hard rock in North America, mainly evaporative brine in South America and mostly hard rock in Africa, Asia and Australasia

Henry does not wholly agree with the newly proposed history of the crater, since isotopic dating showed that a lake existed there until 15.7 million years ago, but the volcanic system went extinct by 16.1 million years. The new timeline would require volcanic activity for longer than the evidence suggests, he explains.
Benson says his company expects to begin mining in 2026. It will remove clay with water and then separate out the small lithium-bearing grains from larger minerals by centrifuging. The clay will then be leached in vats of sulfuric acid to extract lithium.
‘If they can extract the lithium in a very low energy intensive way, or in a process that does not consume much acid, then this can be economically very significant,’ says Borst. ‘The US would have its own supply of lithium and industries would be less scared about supply shortages.’

Benson views the lithium-rich claystone at Thacker Pass as ‘unique’ amongst volcanic sedimentary deposits. ‘Smectite clays are relatively more abundant,’ he says. Exploration for further lithium deposits following eruptions should focus on calderas with lake sediments that have been hydrothermally altered in lakes with no outflows, he adds.
 

West

Senior
Just north of there is the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge a National Wildlife Refuge located roughly 30 miles (48 km) south of the city of Burns in Oregon's Harney Basin.

Where the 2016 standoff happened.

Vary interesting area.
 

KittyKatChic

Senior Member
Like Trouble said, it will NEVER happen. And would you really want it to? There is literally no way to cost effectively harvest it and turn it into something useful without contaminating and eventually destroying everything around it.
 

West

Senior
There is ways to responsibly mine lithium. And in that part of Nevada there is huge potential for real safe and environmentally sound geothermal reinsertion power plant systems.

Read some about it.....


We are only strapped by our own government and EPA. Etc... laws.

I agree it will probably never happen. But we could mine anything responsibly and environmentally sound.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
They can mine it somewhat safely, but the flaw in using ONLY private corporations for this sort of thing, without tax or other advantages to located in the US (in fact giving tax write-offs to firms who relocate overseas) is that they don't or even really can't afford to do so. Instead, for as long as possible, they will continue off-shoring their mining operations to impoverished countries where people are starving. Nations that can't afford to worry about future things like the environment or even a worker's health after forty years on the job.

And if that means doing under-the-table deals with fake shell companies that China owns in Africa, they will do so as long as it is cheaper. Now, give the American companies both carrots and sticks to perform the operations in the US (which Trump wanted to do), and this might happen. With a few bribes of taxpayer money, they might even do it in the safest ways possible. While I'm not too fond of that sort of bribery, it would be better than allowing the mines to come in without safeguards. Living in Colorado, I know what a century of silver and tin mining can do to a local water and ecosystem. Such bribes (often called tax exemptions or subsidies) are probably cheaper than cleaning up the mess in the long run. How safe is Rocky Flats these days? (That is not mining, but it is the cast-off of modern technology that the government abandoned in barrels and buried decades ago - only to be found leaking...) Also, it may work better than simply nationizing companies, as effectively happened during WWII.
 

West

Senior
Corruption only breeds more corruption and bad business practices.

And when we start our foundation with corrupted currency and slave tax payers, everything gets corrupted. EVERYTHING.

Safe and environmentally mining can be easily done.

Set constitutional currency back up and backed by other commodities besides just PMs. And also just mandate the standards. If a naighbor of a mines well or air is harmed then the miners must make the naighbor whole. Really it's as simple as that.

We don't need huge bureaucracies to enforce environmental laws. There's plenty of lawyers and the laws are already on the books.

Bureaucrats/lawyers are killing everything made in the USA.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
There were no environmental laws in the 19th century or even in the 1950s, and Colorado will live with the results for centuries. On the other hand, I agree that over-regulation and too many regulations create problems. There is also an issue of US companies (or, more to the point, modern multinational corporations) not being restricted to the US. They compete with countries like China, Chad, or Bangladesh (even Afghanistan if the Taliban decide to let women go to school in exchange for big money). There is no way a US Company can compete with workers who live in dorms (from South Africa), make 50 cents an hour, and go home once a year to see their wives (and maybe make another baby). It only makes economic sense to move the mines there.

China is starting to realize its mistake now that killer smogs (remember those in London? It was just before I was born, but I heard about it) are hitting Beijing. Still, they have large areas away from cities (where most mining is), and they don't really care about places like Inner Mongolia or Tibet, where I suspect the mines would be (if there are any).

Another issue, and no I'm not trying to sound "woke" here, but I've known this for decades, is that American companies think a "long-term plan" is five years. That's it. Today, most CEOs and FOs of large corporations are taught to care what happens "This fiscal year" and maybe three years into the future. That's it. After that, they may have another job or anything. So they have no reason to worry about what happens in 50 years' time.

Heavy-handed attempts by the Biden Administration (and others) to force them to pay "The Real Costs Forward" don't seem to work either. Trying to limit or avoid the damage in the first place would help, but it isn't always cost-effective in the short term. Ask anyone living next to a former mountain in Appalachia. Taking out the mountains, extracting the coal, and moving on was cheaper. Sometimes, they planted a few trees or something. I'm aware of people who own some of the remains as investments, but they are not worth much at the moment.
 

1eagle

Veteran Member
While they sort this out there are another dozen lithium projects being spun-up or close to production that are less invasive.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Never be allowed to happen, mark my words. We have oil reserves here too, yet gas prices are skyrocketing.
True... at least for now. But if we get a miracle and somehow get rid of our Commie traitors, it isn't going anywhere. Of course, said Commie traitors will probably have sold it ( and collected the standard 10% for the Big Guy) to China, but they'll have to figure out how to get it!

Summerthyme
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
While they sort this out there are another dozen lithium projects being spun-up or close to production that are less invasive.
It is a "law of supply & demand" sort of thing.

Many "marginal" mining claims go to a back burner when the price for the mined product is too cheap. It always works that the "cheapest source" is the source first developed.

The oil companies know EXACTLY where most of the oil is now - at least in the continental US. A new discovery is rare to say the least. I guesstimate that 95 percent of this "hidden reserve" oil is available, but access, transport, refining quirks, prevent most of this oil from coming available to the consumer.

Owner tells of West Virginia coal that used to be burned regularly in a power plant formerly of his attention - but the EPA put that source out of use and it became cheaper for South American coal to be transported into the country than deal with the sulfer content of WV coal.

That powerplant is now gone because "globull warming" and the de-sequestered carbon it represented. All by government edict.

As - the cheapest to use source was used first. And the government gets a BIG part in telling you which is cheapest.

Dobbin
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
I wonder when the next volcanic eruption there occurs?
would you be excited to go to work in a volcano crater? I suppose they could use robot machines.

Base an entire industry on the extraction of lithium and put it where? A volcano?

What could go wrong?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Y
Melodi we never had a problem here in Colorado living with the results of extracting the mineral wealth. We have a problem extracting the Califonication of Colorado. It is a foul stench and near impossible to remove.
Yes, you did. Most of it is up in the mountains. Old silver mines and lead mines poisoned entire creeks and rivers. I saw some of them myself. It may have been cleaned up (that would be great). But they sure hadn't been when I was there. I think some may have been declared "super-fund" sites. And Colorado has always had a problem with people moving in.

I have a friend who has lived there for over 50 years now, but when she got her journalism degree back East, she found it impossible to work in her field in Colorado. She had to go back and train as a Librarian. That was because even in the late 1970s, so many people had worked for places like The New York Times or CBS News, came to Colorado for a visit, and decided to chuck it all and move to Colorado.

And there were always some seriously liberal areas like Boulder, at least since the Hippies moved there in 1969 to avoid the Earthquake that was supposed to destroy California. And we used to play D and D with friends from Nederland....
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just for informational purposes:

A couple of weeks back there was a thread about EV's and in it I posted an article about....I forget what...but remember that mining lithium was out of the question here in the US due to mining regulations. Never be allowed.

Believable because they won't let you drill for oil. Which isn't a big deal since we can print the money and buy it from Saudi Arabia.

And the desire to regulate the coal industry out of existence.
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Y

Yes, you did. Most of it is up in the mountains. Old silver mines and lead mines poisoned entire creeks and rivers. I saw some of them myself. It may have been cleaned up (that would be great). But they sure hadn't been when I was there. I think some may have been declared "super-fund" sites. And Colorado has always had a problem with people moving in.

I have a friend who has lived there for over 50 years now, but when she got her journalism degree back East, she found it impossible to work in her field in Colorado. She had to go back and train as a Librarian. That was because even in the late 1970s, so many people had worked for places like The New York Times or CBS News, came to Colorado for a visit, and decided to chuck it all and move to Colorado.

And there were always some seriously liberal areas like Boulder, at least since the Hippies moved there in 1969 to avoid the Earthquake that was supposed to destroy California. And we used to play D and D with friends from Nederland....
I have always and still am living in a mining district. Growing up we fished many streams around old mines and Ghost Towns. Never got sick from the trout nor the game. Now days if you are on city water you have a good chance of drinking someone else’s drugs from upstream. No superfund on that one. Fortunately we have our own deep well. Colorado was changed but not by the mining but by the people who moved in.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Just north of there is the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge a National Wildlife Refuge located roughly 30 miles (48 km) south of the city of Burns in Oregon's Harney Basin.

Where the 2016 standoff happened.

Vary interesting area.

what standoff was this that happened in 2016
 

vector7

Dot Collector
From 2008 Obama has always pushed for more transformative changes to get higher gas/energy prices (1min)
View: https://youtu.be/ma1gwZYw1cY

Fruits of JoeBama's transformative third term...

Watch: Biden Admits Skyrocketing Energy Prices Are Part Of Green "Transition"
View: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1529086891869581313?t=WfACMzWMSAMQ93080ejHmw&s=19

Joe Biden: "When it comes to the gas prices, we're going through an INCREDIBLE transition"
RT 15secs
View: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1528712761554903040?s=20&t=v2KSxyuZJoOqThJbRcvwqA

Gas prices in California hit another record high above $8/gallon
View: https://twitter.com/JesseCohenInv/status/1531497517816455169?s=20&t=WovqAik-eQBTc0gqM61Ovg

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Snookered

Contributing Member
True... at least for now. But if we get a miracle and somehow get rid of our Commie traitors, it isn't going anywhere. Of course, said Commie traitors will probably have sold it ( and collected the standard 10% for the Big Guy) to China, but they'll have to figure out how to get it!

Summerthyme
I have a feeling the U.S. govt. will most likely strip the Biden family of all its millions after the Big Guy dies or is put in a "home". Thats the so called justice. Its always about the money. Corporations pay off in "fines' and continue the game.
 
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