von Koehler
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The trade-off to your scenario is a drastically reduced expected lifespan.
GOV/MIL Lawmakers Try to Ban Dishonorable Discharges for Troops Who Refuse Mandatory COVID-19 Vaccines
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Thats where Im at, and where my friends are at. What good is your retirement if youre dead? What good is lifelong VA care if your dead?
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
This event (Covid) is far too high profile to be swept under the carpet. There is going to be too much medical evidence to ignore and it's going to be coming from ALL OVER THE WORLD!! In addition there are several great veteran organizations: VFW, DAV, American Legion that will lead fight for veterans benefits and you can BET that there will be a "grunch" of law firms jumping into the fray.
No, there is just no way for the government to possibly ignore this.
I'm not advocating getting or refusing the "jab" for military personnel. However there are several options that need to be considered. The problem is that there are just too many variables, unknowns....and far too much fog on this issue.
And the VA will make them go through hoops. For a very long time.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
*pResident Puddingcup, meanwhile, wants the book thrown at said soldiery.
Fair use cited so on and so forth.
www.zerohedge.com
Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines
Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,
The Biden administration is pushing for dishonourable discharges and even court martialing for troops who disobey orders to get COVID vaccines.
GOP Representative Mark Green of Tennessee proposed an amendment this week to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would prohibit “any discharge but honorable” for troops who refuse vaccines.
The White House responded with a statement noting “The Administration strongly opposes section 716,” reasoning that it would “detract from readiness and limit a commander’s options for enforcing good order and discipline when a Service member fails to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccination.”
The statement added “To enable a uniformed force to fight with discipline, commanders must have the ability to give orders and take appropriate disciplinary measures.”
Responding to the statement, Rep. Green said “I am appalled that the Biden Administration is trying to remove my amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that prevents anything but an honorable discharge for service members who refuse to get the COVID-19 vaccine.”
Green added “This was a bipartisan amendment — every Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee agreed to it.”
“No American who raises their hand to serve our Nation should be punished for making a highly personal medical decision,” Green previously urged.
Another section of the bill, 720, proposes that troops who have previously had COVID-19 should be exempted from a vaccine mandate. The Biden administration also opposes it, claiming it creates “a new and overly broad exemption from the vaccination requirement for previous infection that would undermine the effectiveness of the requirement.”
The House is expected to vote on the NDAA early Thursday morning.
As we have previously noted, there has been significant resistance to vaccine mandates among military service members.
Tucker Carlson revealed Monday that a bizarre presentation was given to troops sardonically ridiculing vaccine mandates with links to satanism, as the military pushes mandates, even for elite navy SEALS who have had the virus and have natural immunity.
Fair use cited so on and so forth.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines
Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,
The Biden administration is pushing for dishonourable discharges and even court martialing for troops who disobey orders to get COVID vaccines.
GOP Representative Mark Green of Tennessee proposed an amendment this week to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would prohibit “any discharge but honorable” for troops who refuse vaccines.
The White House responded with a statement noting “The Administration strongly opposes section 716,” reasoning that it would “detract from readiness and limit a commander’s options for enforcing good order and discipline when a Service member fails to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccination.”
The statement added “To enable a uniformed force to fight with discipline, commanders must have the ability to give orders and take appropriate disciplinary measures.”
Responding to the statement, Rep. Green said “I am appalled that the Biden Administration is trying to remove my amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that prevents anything but an honorable discharge for service members who refuse to get the COVID-19 vaccine.”
Green added “This was a bipartisan amendment — every Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee agreed to it.”
“No American who raises their hand to serve our Nation should be punished for making a highly personal medical decision,” Green previously urged.
Another section of the bill, 720, proposes that troops who have previously had COVID-19 should be exempted from a vaccine mandate. The Biden administration also opposes it, claiming it creates “a new and overly broad exemption from the vaccination requirement for previous infection that would undermine the effectiveness of the requirement.”
The House is expected to vote on the NDAA early Thursday morning.
As we have previously noted, there has been significant resistance to vaccine mandates among military service members.
Tucker Carlson revealed Monday that a bizarre presentation was given to troops sardonically ridiculing vaccine mandates with links to satanism, as the military pushes mandates, even for elite navy SEALS who have had the virus and have natural immunity.
*pResident Puddingcup, meanwhile, wants the book thrown at said soldiery.
Fair use cited so on and so forth.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
Biden Pushing For Dishonourable Discharges, Court Martials For Troops Who Refuse Vaccines
Authored by Steve Watson via Summit News,
The Biden administration is pushing for dishonourable discharges and even court martialing for troops who disobey orders to get COVID vaccines.
GOP Representative Mark Green of Tennessee proposed an amendment this week to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would prohibit “any discharge but honorable” for troops who refuse vaccines.
The White House responded with a statement noting “The Administration strongly opposes section 716,” reasoning that it would “detract from readiness and limit a commander’s options for enforcing good order and discipline when a Service member fails to obey a lawful order to receive a vaccination.”
The statement added “To enable a uniformed force to fight with discipline, commanders must have the ability to give orders and take appropriate disciplinary measures.”
Responding to the statement, Rep. Green said “I am appalled that the Biden Administration is trying to remove my amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that prevents anything but an honorable discharge for service members who refuse to get the COVID-19 vaccine.”
Green added “This was a bipartisan amendment — every Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee agreed to it.”
“No American who raises their hand to serve our Nation should be punished for making a highly personal medical decision,” Green previously urged.
Another section of the bill, 720, proposes that troops who have previously had COVID-19 should be exempted from a vaccine mandate. The Biden administration also opposes it, claiming it creates “a new and overly broad exemption from the vaccination requirement for previous infection that would undermine the effectiveness of the requirement.”
The House is expected to vote on the NDAA early Thursday morning.
As we have previously noted, there has been significant resistance to vaccine mandates among military service members.
Tucker Carlson revealed Monday that a bizarre presentation was given to troops sardonically ridiculing vaccine mandates with links to satanism, as the military pushes mandates, even for elite navy SEALS who have had the virus and have natural immunity.
While sad, im not surprised. I had hope, and still have a littel, but i have come to terms with the fact that I may end up losing what I have right now. On the bright side I wont be dead
hunybee
Veteran Member
that all looks good on paper.
i reality, that is not the norm.
just like what you stated about this:
i am not ragging on you. not at all! it just isn't really what happens. i think you know that.
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
So what you are saying that the new regs are all feel good optics and the reality is that nothing will really change.
But the other aspect you are saying is that these boards will get lit up with pressure if people really try to push on upgrading the discharge status...
Heck, how long did it take to address Agent Orange? The same actors are still sequestering the info on Gulf War Syndrome.
hunybee
Veteran Member
i'll be honest, i'm not really sure what you just said. lol
which regs are feel good optics?
and the other thing.....not sure what you mean.
hunybee
Veteran Member
exactly right.
by all measures and rights, my father and myself should be set for life.
neither of us are. veeeeery far from it. we both have life long effects, and it took decades for him to even get full disability.
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This was in response to post #47. Basically you said the new regs will amount to nothing other than good optics to make people feel good that they have another option now after getting booted out.
The issue with boards is that they tend to feel pressured when they start getting swarmed with paperwork and people and especially swarmed with people in their private lives off the clock.
hunybee
Veteran Member
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
That is not true.
I got a General under Honorable back in 1964 and got ALL benefits, home loan, Educational etc,
Orion Commander
Veteran Member
So which race are you in the multi racial white supremacists group?
mrrk1562
Veteran Member
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Blue dress?