GOV/MIL LAPD Morale Collapses to 'Record Low': 'It's Simply Not Worth It Any Longer'

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/29/lapd-morale-collapses-to-record-low-its-simply-not-worth-it-any-longer/

LAPD Morale Collapses to 'Record Low': 'It's Simply Not Worth It Any Longer'
Joel B. Pollak
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Morale within the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) is currently at a “record low,” thanks to the ongoing Black Lives Matter protests and the vilification of police by local politicians.

Robert Harris, the director of the Los Angeles Police Protective League, told CBS Los Angeles that officers feel “beaten” and “bruised” by the ongoing protests.

That was corroborated by a Breitbart News source within the LAPD, who said: “Morale across the rank-and-file is at a record low. Especially out on the street in patrol. We have been vilified and abandoned by the mayor, all but three of the city council members, as well as many business owners and residents of the city of Los Angeles.”

Mayor Eric Garcetti announced at the height of the riots in early June — with the National Guard on the streets — that he would be cutting the LAPD budget by up to $150 million, answering calls from activists to “defund the police.”

The following week, police officers learned they would not be paid overtime for the additional hours they spent on the streets calming the protests and riots.

The result: many police have effectively given up fighting crime.

“The citizens think crime and homelessness is bad now? They have seen nothing yet,” the LAPD source told Breitbart News. “Wait till a couple of months go by. Pro-activity is all but gone. It sucks. But the community has allowed cops to be vilified.

“When there is blood in the streets, due to a drastic increase of out-of-control violent crime? Then all the people, including businesses who have turned their backs on cops, will learn of the mistake they made on selling us out!

“With all the criminals getting out of jail, people will be at the mercy of the violent criminals. But that’s what the masses have asked for.

“The City’s Guard Dog will not be beaten any longer.”

The collapse in morale happened suddenly, and after a generation of progress.

The riots that erupted in 1992 after the acquittal of officers who beat Rodney King had marked the previous low for the LAPD.

But decades of reform, including close work with civil rights lawyers, led to dramatic improvements in relationships between the police and the public.

National Public Radio reported in 2012: “The detente is not perfect — there are still police-community confrontations. But there seems to be more willingness to listen on both sides.”

Now, however, that hard work has largely been forgotten. And police feel abandoned.

“Cops are retiring and looking to leave ASAP. Why put our families through this garbage for an ungrateful public,” the LAPD source told Breitbart News.

“We can go to jail for simply doing our jobs. It’s simply not worth it any longer.”

Harris told CBS Los Angeles: “I had one officer tell me that he feels like a Vietnam soldier returning home to a country that hates him, and that’s not a good place to be.”

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News and the host of Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot on Sunday evenings from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET (4 p.m. to 7 p.m. PT). His new book, RED NOVEMBER, is available for pre-order. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak.
 

Blacknarwhal

TB Fanatic
“When there is blood in the streets, due to a drastic increase of out-of-control violent crime? Then all the people, including businesses who have turned their backs on cops, will learn of the mistake they made on selling us out!
Perhaps instead they'll learn that they didn't really NEED to pay massive taxes to a monolithic militarized force of above-the-law dog shooters and take the lesson of the Rooftop Koreans instead.

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dstraito

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The mass exodus is bad on at least two levels

First the decrease in coverage, securty, and protection

The second level is because it is the good cops that leave, the bad ones will stay making the department and reputation ever worse

A drive to hire minority people in the Houston PD a few decades back. The dept was understaffed

They could not find enough candidates who met the minimum requirements

They lower the standards

Chaos ensued with an unqualified group of people let loose on the streets
 

blueinterceptor

Veteran Member
Ed Koch the former mayor of NYC is reported to have once said “the people have spoken, now they must be punished”.
the gangs have influenced the current narrative. This has nothing to do with the current stated narrative but more to do with curbing the will and the desire of the police to effectively do their jobs.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Sorry not sorry that the cops are experiencing this. They'd have a lot more support from the Right, except that they've spent the last 20 years siding with the Left against the right. Instead, they chose to kowtow to the Left, and now they're finding out just how much the Left values them.
"The cops", or the brass? Not fair to lump the working grunts who are out there wrestling coked up perps and smelling blood and guts with the brass sitting in their offices hobnobbing with the politicians...

Summerthyme
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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"The cops", or the brass? Not fair to lump the working grunts who are out there wrestling coked up perps and smelling blood and guts with the brass sitting in their offices hobnobbing with the politicians...

Summerthyme
Bullshit.

No-knock warrants, dog shootings, innocent people being shot from cops going to the wrong address, illegal property seizures. Wise up.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Bullshit.

No-knock warrants, dog shootings, innocent people being shot from cops going to the wrong address, illegal property seizures. Wise up.
*tiny* percentage. Yes, there are bad cops. But given the numbers, the actual percentages of bad interactions are absolutely miniscule. You, of all people, ought to know how these things are spun by the meeedia... look at the news articles about the McCloskey's standoff against an armed mob! The stories spend paragraphs describing their "palatial" home (over and over... inciting class hatred, anyone?) and decrying their possession of legally owned weapons, while calling the (armed) mob "peaceful".

I'll frankly admit that I could *never* be a cop. Dealing with the lowlife, entitleds and self destructive morons over and over for 8-12 hours a day is going to change ANYone's view of humanity. Unfortunately, after a decade or two of that, it must be difficult for many of them to realize that there really IS a majority of law abiding citizens who manage to live without ever interacting with the police.

Horrible job, but someone must do it.. and it looks like we're going to get a real life education in what happens when someone *doesn't* do it... thanks to the idiotic "defund the police" crap currently going on.

Summerthyme
 

Blacknarwhal

TB Fanatic
Bullshit.

No-knock warrants, dog shootings, innocent people being shot from cops going to the wrong address, illegal property seizures. Wise up.
Not to mention what happened to that poor bastard in New Mexico. Still makes me shudder even five years later.


$1.6 million settlement for man forced by cops to have enemas, colonoscopy
By Carma Hassan and Greg Botelho, CNN

A New Mexico man has settled with local authorities for $1.6 million after claiming police forced him to undergo "multiple digital penetrations and three enemas" on an invalid warrant and without finding any of the illicit drugs they were looking for.

David Eckert "feels gratified that the city and county acted quickly, and ... that they recognize his dignity and humanity," his lawyer, Joe Kennedy, said Thursday. "He expects that it won't happen to anyone else ever again."

Hidalgo County, New Mexico, Manager Jose Salazar, the top official in the county involved in the settlement, declined to comment on Thursday. And a CNN call to Deming, New Mexico, police Chief Brandon Gigante was not immediately returned.

Eckert, 54, who sued the county and police departments last year, said that he feels he "got some justice, as I think the settlement shows they were wrong to do what they did to me."

"I feel grateful to live in the United States," Eckert said in a statement posted on his lawyer's Facebook page. "Bad things happen, but in America there is a way to get justice."

The lawsuit laid out in vivid detail Eckert's version of his 12-hour ordeal early in January 2013.

Lawsuit: Cops forced man to undergo enemas, colonoscopy

According to a police affidavit accompanying that lawsuit, a detective asked a different officer to pull over Eckert's 1998 brown Dodge pickup truck for not properly stopping at a stop sign.

After Eckert was pulled over, a Deming police officer said that he saw Eckert "was avoiding eye contact with me," his "left hand began to shake," and he stood "erect (with) his legs together," the affidavit stated.

Eckert was told he could go home after a third officer issued him a traffic citation. But before he did, Eckert voluntarily consented to a search of him and his vehicle, according to the affidavit. A K-9 dog subsequently hit on a spot in the Dodge's driver's seat, though no drugs were found.

"Hidalgo County K-9 officer did inform me that he had dealt with Mr. Eckert on a previous case and stated that Mr. Eckert was known to insert drugs into his anal cavity and had been caught in Hidalgo County with drugs in his anal cavity," the affidavit said.

While CNN could not corroborate that claim, a search of Eckert's criminal history indicated he has been arrested several times on drug possession charges, though many of those charges were dismissed.

Outrage over highway body cavity search

Eckert was then put in "investigative detention" and transported around 2 p.m. to the Deming Police Department.
Sometime after that, a judge signed a search warrant "to include but not limited to his anal cavity."

His next stop was Gila Regional Medical Center, where the lawsuit states "no drugs were found" in "an X-ray and two digital searches of his rectum by two different doctors." One doctor at this time found nothing unusual in his stool.

Three enemas were conducted on Eckert after 10:20 p.m. A chest X-ray followed, succeeded by a colonoscopy around 1:25 a.m.

Again, in all these tests, authorities found "no drugs" on Eckert, according to his lawsuit.

"(Authorities) acted completely outside the bounds of human decency by orchestrating wholly superfluous physical body cavity searches performed by an unethical medical professional," the plaintiff asserted.

Because Eckert "merely looked nervous during a traffic stop," the lawsuit claims that authorities ended up violating his constitutional right against unreasonable searches and seizures on a number of grounds.

One was that "the language in the warrant was overly broad and, therefore, invalid," said the plaintiff, asserting that the chest X-ray and colonoscopy, for instance, weren't related or confined to the "anal cavity."

Moreover, many of the tests took place outside the 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. timeframe for which any such search warrant (unless otherwise authorized) is legally valid under New Mexico law, according to the lawsuit.

Eckert agreed to the $1.6 million settlement on December 20, according to his attorney, but it became public only in recent days.

The New Mexico man said, in his latest statement, that he wants to maintain his privacy and -- to whatever extent he can -- not have his "face ... be linked with jokes related to anal probing."

At the same time, Eckert said that he was heartened by those who relayed their sympathy and their own horror stories involving police on online articles about his lawsuit.

"I felt very helpless and alone that night," he wrote. "The comments I have read on news stories from people have made me feel much better and not so alone."
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Is it even legal to refuse to pay their overtime?!

Summerthyme
NLRB and FLSA rules apply to certain types of employers/employees--->

Quote- … the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) requires overtime pay (PDF) to be at least one and one-half times an employee's regular rate of pay after 40 hours of work in a workweek. Some exceptions apply under special circumstances to police and firefighters and to employees of hospitals and nursing homes.

Quote- Public agency fire departments and police departments may establish a work period ranging from 7 to 28 days in which overtime need only be paid after a specified number of hours in each work period.


 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Bullshit.

No-knock warrants, dog shootings, innocent people being shot from cops going to the wrong address, illegal property seizures. Wise up.
The abuses could easily be corrected with the simple application of Equal Justice Under The Law AND actual application of the meanings in the Constitution.

Unfortunately the court systems, government agencies and the political class have conspired to enable all this crap!

Besides the ones you mention, consider what I think is the most egregious illegal action of all - Policing for Profit (Abuse of Civil Asset Forfeiture) that has became so overused in the states. I've read several different articles that put the dollars seized at more than the amount that burglars steal …


 

To-late

Contributing Member
"Harris told CBS Los Angeles: “I had one officer tell me that he feels like a Vietnam soldier returning home to a country that hates him, and that’s not a good place to be.”"

Oh, I know that feeling well. It's not a good place to be.
 

Jeff B.

What is left when honor is lost?
I strongly support all cops - who are professional and act within the boundaries of the law and the Constitution.
Good statement. If the Police leadership wants to seize the initiative, they'll start by ensuring that their operations are in line with the Constitution and actively promote a change in mindset from "Law Enforcement" to "Peace Office". Actively look for the bad apples and menaces and then weed them out. The Police Unions would be well advised to join this effort and not act as roadblocks to the removal of "bad" cops.

Jeff B.
 

blueinterceptor

Veteran Member
Just wondering. How many mistakes were there in the launch of the new software and hardware of this forum. (Not a tech guy so I’m not sure I’m using the correct terminology)
If I remember correctly there were several attempts and weeks of mistakes and corrections before it went right. How much
Stress was involved in making this website .
Cops work at a much higher pace. Do mistakes happen yes. But don’t equate the occasional screw up with everyday function.
Cops in this country have tens of millions of citizen interactions yearly, with comparatively few bad ones. Perspective must be kept.
 

The Mountain

Here since the beginning
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"The cops", or the brass? Not fair to lump the working grunts who are out there wrestling coked up perps and smelling blood and guts with the brass sitting in their offices hobnobbing with the politicians...

Summerthyme
The cops.

"I was just following orders" wasn't a good excuse even in the original German.

If the cops had told the brass that they weren't going to enforce directives that hassled the folks most likely to support them, they'd have a lot more support today.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Then every cop who works for LAPD was looking for a job when they found that one. Rinse and repeat till happiness ensues.
 

greysage

Veteran Member
Sucks for everybody I suppose.
It was only several weeks ago the police were arresting people for trying to get a haircut or a work-out.
It was only several weeks ago when the police were arresting people that rallied to open businesses back up so they can go to back to work.
Am I supposed to feel bad for the cops? The same cops who might serve a red-flag order on my because some sjw marxist or busy-body karen called the cops on me?
I would have backed those clowns right up with my own life at one point. But they dishonored their oath serving leftist liberal politicians.
"If you don't like the law, change it." The cops said.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
Again, bullshit. Except for dog shootings, the items I mentioned above are not the exclusive purview of "bad cops."
Dog shootings - how many are justified - don't know - but I'm sure some of them are - all the stories we hear about are just some sweet dog getting shot. But a dog owner - never thinks their dog will bite - till it does.

I'm really suspicious of whose really at fault since - way more people are dog lovers than not.

As a little kid I was bit several times I'm sure they can read that on me - still - so I stay away from them - because if they bite me I want to kill them.

If I was a cop and a pit bull came at me it is going to get shot - I'm not going to wait till it bites me.

Had a renter whose dog bit the meter reader and they refused to read the meter. Dog owner would never admit that her dog bit the guy just said - he "nipped him".
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are probably 2 million full and part time police officers. If you couldn't find a few that were absolutely evil, it would be a miracle!!

would you prefer a jaded cop or antifa on your street as the law enforcement officers?
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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If law enforcement abdicates its role, WE THE PEOPLE will step in. And we don’t have the same restrictions on the RoE as the police, nor is our goal arresting the perps. Gonna be a lot of dead perps soon methinks.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
I must have not been a very good cop, I never shot a dog (Nor did my entire dept of 68-70 officers the entire 20 years I worked there), I never shot anyone but did come close a few times, I never seized any innocent peoples property, I did serve one no knock warrant on a drug house occupied by several armed suspects where there were several shooting in the weeks prior and got a pile of cocaine, lbs of cannabis and many guns. I personally arrested many burglars breaking into businesses that I caught by hiding in wooded areas for nights on end getting eaten alive by mosquitos until they broke in to one close enough for me to hear it, caught several murderers via my extensive use of informants, had more fingerprint matches when I was a crime scene technician that the entire rest of the department combined, recovered hundreds of thousands worth of stolen property while a property crimes detective and so on.

I guess I missed out on all of the fun of killing dogs, shooting unarmed black people in the back for no reason, taking innocent peoples money and other fun things.

As our only crime scene tech I got to work dozens of bloody suicides, all of our murders, rapes, stabbings, deaths of children from fires and car crashes (three dead children from one car crash alone), robberies and severe beatings to innocent people by the criminals. One guy had his head almost sawed off with a pocket knife. I am sure all of those who feel we don't need the cops could have handled all of the above without any help and just their trusty AR15.

Have you ever seen a 3 year old with 50% of the skin burned off of their body? Have you ever smelled it?

I covered the worst damage in the picture below, this was just one of hundreds of such scenes that I worked. If gross things offend you dont open the picture.
 

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