Pandemic Just suppose.....

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
Just suppose almost all anti-vaxers DID get the COVID jab...

In a way, I wish we could have this happen and see what happens to the Pandemic.

Because I believe MANY infections, hospitalizations and death will still be happening.

What would the Deep State Death Squad say and do then?

I wish we had a virtual reality where we could know.

Because most anti-vaxers will likely NEVER get the vaccines.
 

foreverkeeps

Veteran Member
why they would CELEBRATE of course
not becasue we "got it" - but becasue we
DIED
COULDN'T REPRODUCE
GOT ANOTHER STEP CLOSER TO ACCEPTING THE MARK
True, but my point is they are blaming the unvaccinated for keeping the pandemic going. If we could prove that not to be true by almost everyone getting vaccinated, what excuse would they use for the virus still spreading and killing vaccinated people?
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
True, but my point is they are blaming the unvaccinated for keeping the pandemic going. If we could prove that not to be true by almost everyone getting vaccinated, what excuse would they use for the virus still spreading and killing vaccinated people?
Introduce a different disease.
 

To-late

Veteran Member
Just suppose almost all anti-vaxers DID get the COVID jab...

In a way, I wish we could have this happen and see what happens to the Pandemic.

Because I believe MANY infections, hospitalizations and death will still be happening.

What would the Deep State Death Squad say and do then?

I wish we had a virtual reality where we could know.

Because most anti-vaxers will likely NEVER get the vaccines.
What would the Deep State Death Squad say and do then?”
nothing.
they would just move on to the next event in their playbook of total control.
it’s a much bigger playbook than you seem to be seeing at this point.
think BIGGER…
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
True, but my point is they are blaming the unvaccinated for keeping the pandemic going. If we could prove that not to be true by almost everyone getting vaccinated, what excuse would they use for the virus still spreading and killing vaccinated people?
He says we are right! But he is just a man who won Nobel Peace prize. Trust CNN. And notice this was posted several months ago!

Bombshell: Nobel Prize Winner Reveals - Covid Vaccine is 'Creating Variants'
Renee Nal
May 18, 2021
170 comments
5 min read





Prof. Luc Montagnier said that epidemiologists know but are “silent” about the phenomenon, known as “Antibody-Dependent Enhancement” (ADE).


While it is understood that viruses mutate, causing variants, French Virologist and Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier contends that “it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.”
The 2008 Nobel Laureate made the explosive comments as part of a larger interview with Pierre Barnérias of Hold-Up Media earlier this month. The clip was exclusively translated for RAIR Foundation USA, and is quite damning for the agenda-driven left-wing establishment.
Read: Nobel Laureate Luc Montagnier – Warns Covid Vaccine May Lead to ‘Neurodegenerative Illness’ (Video)
As reported at RAIR in April of last year, Prof. Montagnier presented a powerful case that the coronavirus was created in a lab. His comments at the time offended the left-wing establishment so much that they aggressively attempted to discredit his statement. Now, the media is backpedaling on the origin of the coronavirus after prominent scientists called for further scrutiny.
Vaccines are Creating the Variants
Prof. Montagnier referred to the vaccine program for the coronavirus as an “unacceptable mistake”. Mass vaccinations are a “scientific error as well as a medical error,” he said. “It is an unacceptable mistake. The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants,” Prof. Luc Montagnier continued.
Luc Montagnier - Photo gallery - NobelPrize.orgReceiving the Nobel Prize in 2008
The prominent virologist explained that “there are antibodies, created by the vaccine,” forcing the virus to “find another solution” or die. This is where the variants are created. It is the variants that “are a production and result from the vaccination.”
Antibody-Dependent Enhancement
Prof. Montagnier said that epidemiologists know but are “silent” about the phenomenon, known as “Antibody-Dependent Enhancement” (ADE). In the articles that mention ADE, the concerns expressed by Prof. Montagnier are dismissed. “Scientists say that ADE is pretty much a non-issue with COVID-19 vaccines,” an article at Medpage Today reported in March.
Prof. Montagnier explained that the trend is happening in “each country” where “the curve of vaccination is followed by the curve of deaths.”
ALSO SEE: Luc Montagnier Did NOT Say Vaccine Would Kill People in Two Years – Here’s What he DID Say (Video)
The Nobel Laureate’s point is emphasized by information revealed in an open letter from a long list of medical doctors to the European Medicines Agency. The letter stated in part that “there have been numerous media reports from around the world of care homes being struck by COVID-19 within days of vaccination of residents.”
Earlier this month, RAIR reported on a statement by French Virologist Christine Rouzioux:
“…the rise in new cases is occurring in vaccinated patients in nursing homes in ‘Montpellier, in the Sarte, in Rheims, in the Moselle…”
Prof. Luc Montagnier continued to say that he is doing his own experiments with those who become infected with the coronavirus after getting the vaccine. “I will show you that they are creating the variants that are resistant to the vaccine,” he said.
Watch the clip (transcribed below):






Many thanks to HeHa and Miss Piggy for the translation!


(Questions are bolded)
If we look at the curve from the WHO, since the vaccinations started in January, the curve showing new infections (contamination) has exploded, along with deaths.
Notably among young people.

—Yes. With thromboses, etc.
How do you view the mass vaccination program? Mass vaccination compared to treatments that work and aren’t expensive.
—It’s an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake. The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants.
—For the China virus, there are antibodies, created by the vaccine. What does the virus do? Does it die or find another solution?
—The new variants are a production and result from the vaccination. You see it in each country, it’s the same: the curve of vaccination is followed by the curve of deaths.
—I’m following this closely and I am doing experiments at the Institute with patients who became sick with Corona after being vaccinated. I will show you that they are creating the variants that are resistant to the vaccine.
Should we be vaccinating during a pandemic?
—It’s unthinkable.
They’re silent… many people know this, epidemiologists know it.
—It is the antibodies produced by the virus that enable an infection to become stronger.
—It’s what we call Antibody Dependent Enhancement, which means antibodies favor a certain infection. The antibody attaches to the virus, from that moment it has the receptors, the antibodies, we have them in the macrophage etc.
—It pokes the virus and not accidentally, but because of the fact that they’re linked to the antibodies.
—It is clear that the new variants are created by antibody-mediated selection due to the vaccination. OK?


 

Mprepared

Veteran Member
True, but my point is they are blaming the unvaccinated for keeping the pandemic going. If we could prove that not to be true by almost everyone getting vaccinated, what excuse would they use for the virus still spreading and killing vaccinated people?
They would not get to have an excuse because they would be dead when the masses turned on them. The unvaxxed are the control ground and when the control group live and have babies and the vaxed do not, they will know they made a mistake and go after the companies and doctors, so they are in a hurry to vaccinate all of the unvaccinated so there will not be a control group. In the trials there is not a control group left. They all got vaccinated because they said not right to withhold the life saving vaccine from the placebo group.
 

artichoke

Senior Moment
Just suppose almost all anti-vaxers DID get the COVID jab...

In a way, I wish we could have this happen and see what happens to the Pandemic.

Because I believe MANY infections, hospitalizations and death will still be happening.

What would the Deep State Death Squad say and do then?

I wish we had a virtual reality where we could know.

Because most anti-vaxers will likely NEVER get the vaccines.
You don't need to run that experiment, which you can't anyway because we don't care about your little experiment.

Both vaxed and unvaxed are getting infected. There's no logical way that the unvaxed are causing the vaxed to get infected, esp. if the vax is any good. And if the vax isn't any good, it wouldn't make a difference anyway if your experiment were performed.
 

artichoke

Senior Moment
True, but my point is they are blaming the unvaccinated for keeping the pandemic going. If we could prove that not to be true by almost everyone getting vaccinated, what excuse would they use for the virus still spreading and killing vaccinated people?
The reason they are blaming us is to get us to take their shot. If we take the shot, they win. They won't win though, because they can go to hell, we won't take their damned shot. And we don't owe them an explanation or proving anything to them.

I feel that you're thinking about this all wrong. Why in hell would we take the shot for their edification or satisfaction?
 

Dux

Veteran Member
They're explaining that we now need booster shots, that's why it's ok that the illness is still prevalent among the vaxxed. My co-worker thinks that even though she might get Covid, she'll have an easier time of it b/c of the vax. Always a narrative.
 

artichoke

Senior Moment
They're explaining that we now need booster shots, that's why it's ok that the illness is still prevalent among the vaxxed. My co-worker thinks that even though she might get Covid, she'll have an easier time of it b/c of the vax. Always a narrative.
She's probably right, at least for Delta. The vaxed have less symptoms and an easier time with Delta, apparently. ADE tends to hit the unvaxed hardest, as they found in animal studies.

But she's ignoring the other acute and chronic effects of the vax. And as mutations (more likely lab modifications made to look like especially nasty mutations) get farther from the vax, its protection of the vaxed will decline.

The intellectual reasoning is not that simple. There's no one-liner that explains it and is proof against objections. You can be brief, or correct, but not both. And being incorrect can ruin your credibility.
 
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