PREP Junk silver coins

K99

Fridge Ranger
Wondering where/how to buy old silver dimes quarters etc. Not really looking to run all over the place, just dont know the process. How much premium should I expect to pay?
Thanks!
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Fair use.
I review the current price of silver at the Kitco website bid/ask. The problem with ebay is there are counterfeit junk silver coins out there. Is there a coin shop with a good local reputation where the coins are tested in house near you?
 

NoDandy

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Go to a news stand, pick up a copy of " Coin World ", I think that is the correct name. Have not had one for some time. They are about the same size as ShotGunNews. The Coin World is mostly coin dealers ads. Many places to call.

Also, I agree go to local coin shops. Also, check Pawn Shops, as people that need money will sell their junk silver there. Also, might check any local Antique shops. We have one in the next county that does a lot of business in that, but mostly advertises as antiques, etc.

Good luck
 

OZARK

Senior Member
20 times face value Give or take at my LCS

A roll of 1964 and earlier is ten dollars face value

So,$ 200 for a roll of quarters or halves,
$100 for a five dollar face value tube of dimes
 

1911user

Veteran Member
3 online sources:

 
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Hognutz

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I always used to get mine from local coin shops. Just ask if they have junk silver. One guy used to pull out an old cigar box he kept them in, and I would go through it looking for the ones I wanted…
 

Bridey Rose

Veteran Member
I've had good luck with Money Metals Exchange and SD Bullion for pre-'65 dimes, but they're pretty pricey. They're running $113.80 or $114.95 for a pack or roll of dimes with a $5 face value if you pay cash via a bank account and they cost even more if you use a credit card. But I'm convinced they're the safest investment around because there's no counter-party involved like our loving Fed Gov or a bank, credit union, or insurance company!
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Go to a news stand, pick up a copy of " Coin World ", I think that is the correct name. Have not had one for some time. They are about the same size as ShotGunNews. The Coin World is mostly coin dealers ads. Many places to call.

Also, I agree go to local coin shops. Also, check Pawn Shops, as people that need money will sell their junk silver there. Also, might check any local Antique shops. We have one in the next county that does a lot of business in that, but mostly advertises as antiques, etc.

Good luck
"as people that need money will sell their junk silver there"

My advise is, don't be one of those people.

If you have to sell, due to unforeseen circumstances, you may lose some of your investment.
 

thereisnofork

Veteran Member
I would use SDBullion.com or JMBullion.com. All silver coinage is getting hard to find. A $5 face value roll of dimes is about $122 at SD. It takes about 14 dimes = 1 troy ounce silver, so you are getting 3.571 ounces, or about $34.16 per ounce with the premiums. Demand is high, and availability is low. I stay away from ebay.
An individual silver dollar is about .715 ounce of silver, halves, quarters and dimes are 1/2, 1/4 and 1/10 of that. Our money was designed as divisible. So a $1000 face value bag is generally accepted as 715 ounces of silver.
My number of .715 comes from a guy who ran a metals minting and old silver coin business, had his education from a mining college. Google says about .72xx ounces per coin. My guy may have been taking wear/tear for old coins into account.
 
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Hfcomms

EN66iq
Another shout out for Apmex. You can do it online, don’t have to talk to anyone and free shipping & insurance for orders over $300. Perfect way to cost average and buy a little at a time and their prices/premiums are in line with other retail dealers.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
My local coin shop has 90% silver coins available, but he is asking 25x face.

Let’s consider how far above spot that is.

A single silver dime at current spot would be $1.50. The dealer in my AO is selling each silver dime at $2.50.

Of course, spot price is a manipulated joke. We all know that, but the question then becomes, how much mark up is reasonable?

In light of the current economic conditions, I find myself struggling to gauge what is reasonable as we proceed further into this economic maelstrom. I tend to think the day will soon come when we might wish we could get silver at 25x face.
 

CaryC

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Wondering where/how to buy old silver dimes quarters etc. Not really looking to run all over the place, just dont know the process. How much premium should I expect to pay?
Thanks!
You can buy them by the bag at a lot of brokerages.

This is a good one:


Something you should be aware of at any brokerage. Online probably not going to quote a price because of the fluctuation in prices, on a daily basis. There is a number to call in the above link, and they are happy to talk to you about any purchase.

Buying junk silver from a brokerage will not sell like 10 dimes and a quarter. Like I said they sell by the bag, a full bag will go between 1500.00 and 2000.00, with the value in silver being correct. Depending on brokerage you may can get a half bag or even a quarter bag. It actually doesn't come in a bag, but plastic sleeves of half's, quarters, and dimes. All pre '65.

Also getting it from a broker means the coins will be sent registered mail (meaning you will have to sign for it with ID) and Insured against loss or stolen. If you are not normally at home, when the mail runs, they will leave you an official notice and you have several days to go by the Post Office and pick up.

So if you are prepared to fork out that much, give them a call. They don't mind dealing with small sales, it's not a problem and at least Goldline has always been very helpful.

If you're not prepared to fork out that much then doc1 and pawnshops are the way to go.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I was lucky to encounter Franklin Sanders early along. This has always been my touchstone - Ten Commandments for Buying Gold and Silver — The Moneychanger

I take issue with his point about numismatics though. Certainly educate yourself and don’t buy overly expensive numismatic coins. After all the value of the coin is primarily in it’s gold content and not it’s condition or mintage. However, numismatic coins consistently sell for more than bullion coins.

The trick is to buy when nobody wants gold or silver coins and the premiums are so low that they cost only a little more than comparable bullion coins. Obviously a MS-65 numismatic coin is always going to sell for boodles more than an ungraded F or VF bullion coin. What I did was to load up on MS-61/62 Liberties when they were selling for less than a $100 more than an ungraded coin.

With graded coins anyone can check it by serial number on the grader’s websites and that along with your bill of sale can give a prospective buyer confidence in the future that the coin is legitimate. When premiums are that low factoring in the costs of shipping the coin to and from the grader and getting it slabbed is worth it. People worry about faked gold now with good copies out of China and this is only going to become more pronounced when people panic into the metals.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
It's the expectation of easy money he is warning about IMO - some people are of the 'too much is not enough' persuasion. Greed and Fear are the Scilla and Charibdis here - do not be scared, do not be greedy and things will likely work better.

For the record, when premiums between slabbed pre-33 gold and bullion were small, I bought some more mint state Saints myself.
 

1911user

Veteran Member
Are the Swiss 10 and 20 gram bars of gold that come sealed with an assay card worthwhile? That is roughly 1/3 and 2/3 of an ounce, respectively.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
IMO most any form of gold concentrates too much value to be of utility post-SHTF. I think even an ounce of silver (eagle) will be too hard to get change for. I suggest dimes for that reason.

I did get some 14K plain gold wedding bands from pawn shop scrap gold as a hedge. Slip one on and drop by the local we buy gold ... anyone watching just sees some poor guy having to sell his wedding ring to get by.

YMMV of course.
 

NoDandy

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"as people that need money will sell their junk silver there"

My advise is, don't be one of those people.

If you have to sell, due to unforeseen circumstances, you may lose some of your investment.
Agree. I just suggested it as a possible place to buy
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
My best friend owned multiple laundry mats and when he would go through them every week and would always find one or more pre-65 quarters.

He said he wasn't sure if it was worth his time to go through them but he was so good at spotting them that it really didn't take him long.

I wonder if everyone in a cash/coin business does this?
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Too little benefit to do that today. Back when I was a kid I'd go to the bank for rolls of pennies and dimes as you could get a lot of wheat pennies as well as silver dimes but those days are long gone. I'd bet you would have to go through thousands of clad coins today to glean one silver coin.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
My best friend owned multiple laundry mats and when he would go through them every week and would always find one or more pre-65 quarters.

He said he wasn't sure if it was worth his time to go through them but he was so good at spotting them that it really didn't take him long.

I wonder if everyone in a cash/coin business does this?
Look at 'em all by the edges when stacked, and one could go through hundreds of coins in a few seconds, spotting any silver ones.
 

Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
Too little benefit to do that today. Back when I was a kid I'd go to the bank for rolls of pennies and dimes as you could get a lot of wheat pennies as well as silver dimes but those days are long gone. I'd bet you would have to go through thousands of clad coins today to glean one silver coin.
Not the case when I was coin roll hunting a few years back. It depends greatly on where you are located. East coast not so much, mountain states it can be found. I have dimes, nickels and halves galore found that way. Never ever, though, found a quarter. I used to hunt better than $2K face each week.

RR
 

thereisnofork

Veteran Member
Another thing to look for is to search precious metals sites for Valcambi bars. They make both gold and silver sheets that break into 1 gram chunks. Currently 1 gram of gold is $60 to $65. But these bars can give you smaller, barterable amounts in gold. The make 20, 50 and 100 gram sheets in gold, and 1 ounce/10 sections. Silver in 100 gram sheets.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
A quick search of prices for 1 gram bars of 999 fine gold is equivalent to $2,270 per ounce, with no guarantee that it isn't counterfeit.
 

Redcat

Veteran Member
My best friend owned multiple laundry mats and when he would go through them every week and would always find one or more pre-65 quarters.

He said he wasn't sure if it was worth his time to go through them but he was so good at spotting them that it really didn't take him long.

I wonder if everyone in a cash/coin business does this?
My brother has a vending machine sideline. He also finds silver coins here and there. He saves his buckets of quarters and checks them when things are slow life wise.
 

psychgirl

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Too little benefit to do that today. Back when I was a kid I'd go to the bank for rolls of pennies and dimes as you could get a lot of wheat pennies as well as silver dimes but those days are long gone. I'd bet you would have to go through thousands of clad coins today to glean one silver coin.
I inherited an entire heavy, bank bag full of wheat Pennie’s.
I was told they’re junk but I still have the bag.
I forgot all about those actually.
 

psychgirl

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IMO most any form of gold concentrates too much value to be of utility post-SHTF. I think even an ounce of silver (eagle) will be too hard to get change for. I suggest dimes for that reason.

I did get some 14K plain gold wedding bands from pawn shop scrap gold as a hedge. Slip one on and drop by the local we buy gold ... anyone watching just sees some poor guy having to sell his wedding ring to get by.

YMMV of course.
eBay sellers have scrap gold, broken jewelry all the time.
Sold in lots of several pieces. You could probably find some steals
 
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