GOV/MIL Judge scraps protest rules for Republican National Convention

[Housecarl]

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Judge scraps protest rules for Republican National Convention

Mike O'Mara, WKYC 6:39 PM. EST June 23, 2016

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CLEVELAND - U.S. District Judge James Gwin struck down the rules set by the City of Cleveland for protesters at next month’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland.

The Ohio branch of the American Civil Liberties Union brought a lawsuit last week against the City saying that restrictions on protesters within the “event zone” around Quicken Loans Arena were unconstitutional.

Anti-Trump protest group leaders were elated by the ruling. Larry Bressler with Organize Ohio said the limitation of protest parades to the Lorain-Carnegie bridge was ridiculous. Bresler said “the only people that would see it, see the march, are the marchers themselves.”

Tom Burke, coordinator for the Coalition to Stop Trump added, “The bridge goes over the river, there's piles of rocks, the public is nowhere to be seen, the media will be at the Republican convention and that's where the confrontation between our message and the Republican agenda needs to take place.”

Judge Gwin also took issue with the size of the event zone and called it “"unduly large." He indicated that he was not satisfied with the times at parades could be held as well as the limitations placed on the use of city parks by protesters.

Anti-Trump protesters say that they want a separate protest parade zone to avoid violence. They want to go from a rally in Public Square over to Prospect Avenue and then back down to East 9th Street. Tom Burke told Channel 3’s Mike O’Mara that “on the one hand we want the police to show us respect and work with us. On the other hand, we think the people who are pro-Trump would do well to keep their distance.”

Larry Bresler nodded in agreement and said that the City of Cleveland’s plan “with the kind of assembly line of marches that was set up that would do more to encourage violence than doing it from different parts.”

Late this afternoon four of the protest group leaders met with Safety Director Mike McGrath and left City Hall without resolving any issues.

Meanwhile, lawyers with the ACLU and the City of Cleveland met with a Federal Mediator for several hours to discuss a possible settlement. If both sides can’t find an acceptable compromise, Judge Gwin will issue a court order mandating the protest zone security details for the RNC.

 

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Judge Overturns Cleveland’s Restrictions on GOP Convention Protests

by Robert Webster | 5:32 pm, June 23rd, 2016

On Thursday, a federal judge threw out restrictions on potential protests during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland next month. Cleveland had originally planned for a heightened security zone around downtown Cleveland, but now has to redraw their event lines following the new ruling. US District Judge James Gwin‘s ruling comes 25 days before an estimated 100,000 Republican politicians, delegates and supporters are due to arrive in Cleveland for the event. Gwin also held that the restrictions would limit the first amendment right to free speech.

Judge Gwin also had several other complaints about the restrictions. He claimed that the area was unduly large, the parade routes were insufficient and that parade hours were also inadequate.

“And I don’t mean to suggest the city can’t control the time and the parade routes, but I think the restriction to this Lorain-Carnegie Bridge at times when delegates area almost invariably not going to be present is an insufficient opportunity for First Amendment purposes,” the judge said according to Cleveland.com.

This ruling follows the parade for the Cleveland Cavaliers’ NBA championship win, the first sports championship parade in the city in 52 years. An estimated 1.3 million people marched in that parade, which slightly exceeded the 1 million that the city expected. However, city attorney, Stewart Hastings, showed a key difference between the basketball fans and the RNC protestors.

“A celebration of happy fans is very different than the people I expect to come to Cleveland for the Republican National Convention,” he said according to the Hill.

“[This is an] ideal target for international and domestic terrorists,” Hastings added of the convention also according to the Hill.

However, the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio is heralding the decision as a victory for them and the citizens of Ohio. Currently, the ACLU is attempting to broker a new agreement with the city under the short time frame and hope to have a new deal within the coming weeks.

“A negotiated settlement is way better,” ACLU of Ohio executive director Christine Link said, adding that she did not think the case would be resolved on Thursday according to Cleveland.com.

The Republican National Convention is scheduled for July 18th-21st.

 

[Dozdoats]

Negotiate as Cleveland burns, then.

 

[Murt]

perhaps a GOP planned event in front of the judges home is in order

 

[Doomer Doug]

We are going to see a tidal wave of violence in Cleveland in July. It is planned and being prepared for right now. This judge just guaranteed total chaos. This also is part of the plan.

We may or may not see violence during the Democratic convention. Now that Bernie has sold out and endorsed Hellary the BITCH we will see if his berniebots take him seriously.

At any rate, I am predicting the kind of mass violence we saw during the 1968 conventions.

The whole point of this is to create and atmosphere of political chaos like the Weimar Republic in the buildup to the election of Adolph Hitler in January of 1933. It will be to convince the American people a strong leader is needed. The leader won't be Trump because he is too threatening to the status quo. It will be Hellary who can "bring us together." LOL

Yep, we are going to see Weimar level social and political anarchy between now and November.

 

[Be Well]

What you said, DD - and to blame it ALL on Trump's "message of hate".

 

[Troke]

We are going to see a tidal wave of violence in Cleveland in July. It is planned and being prepared for right now. This judge just guaranteed total chaos. This also is part of the plan.

We may or may not see violence during the Democratic convention. Now that Bernie has sold out and endorsed Hellary the BITCH we will see if his berniebots take him seriously.

At any rate, I am predicting the kind of mass violence we saw during the 1968 conventions.

The whole point of this is to create and atmosphere of political chaos like the Weimar Republic in the buildup to the election of Adolph Hitler in January of 1933. It will be to convince the American people a strong leader is needed. The leader won't be Trump because he is too threatening to the status quo. It will be Hellary who can "bring us together." LOL

Yep, we are going to see Weimar level social and political anarchy between now and November.

I doubt that but we will most certainly see a replay of the 1968 convention that sank Hubert Humphrey. However, today the people are more inured to it. So to make up for that, the violence will be more vicious, all on Channel 6 for the whole world to see.

 

[Housecarl]

We are going to see a tidal wave of violence in Cleveland in July. It is planned and being prepared for right now. This judge just guaranteed total chaos. This also is part of the plan.

We may or may not see violence during the Democratic convention. Now that Bernie has sold out and endorsed Hellary the BITCH we will see if his berniebots take him seriously.

At any rate, I am predicting the kind of mass violence we saw during the 1968 conventions.

The whole point of this is to create and atmosphere of political chaos like the Weimar Republic in the buildup to the election of Adolph Hitler in January of 1933. It will be to convince the American people a strong leader is needed. The leader won't be Trump because he is too threatening to the status quo. It will be Hellary who can "bring us together." LOL

Yep, we are going to see Weimar level social and political anarchy between now and November.

I doubt that but we will most certainly see a replay of the 1968 convention that sank Hubert Humphrey. However, today the people are more inured to it. So to make up for that, the violence will be more vicious, all on Channel 6 for the whole world to see.

The coverage will definitely be heavier nationally and internationally than the "Battle of Seattle", TPTB will make sure of that.

Though the Weimar comparisons have some merit, the problem the Progressive/Elite Left have with trying for that scenario model is the conditions aren't physically the same.

They might be able to psychologically program their fellow travelers/tools into thinking it is but when the generation of activists they're depending on to "go forward" are a bunch of hyper sensitive, overeducated yet ignorant twitterers who's biggest personal health concerns are STDs, substance abuse and obesity, it doesn't match up with First World War vets who spent a decade starving and watching their families suffering.

 

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Deal between ACLU, Cleveland includes smaller 'event zone' for Republican National Convention

Andrew J. Tobias, cleveland.com By Andrew J. Tobias, cleveland.com
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on June 24, 2016 at 5:21 PM, updated June 24, 2016 at 5:43 PM
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CLEVELAND, Ohio — An agreement reached Friday between the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio and Cleveland officials will result in a "much smaller" heightened-security zone during the Republican National Convention, among other security-related changes.

The new zone — the specific boundaries for which were not available — will exclude the west side of the Cuyahoga River, as well as public parks and other areas in and around downtown, according to ACLU of Ohio Executive Director Christine Link.

Other terms include a longer "parade" route for RNC protesters and additional time slots for demonstrators to march along the route.

The deal, which is still being finalized, was struck following eight hours of negotiations on Thursday. The talks follow a ruling by U.S. District Judge James Gwin that the city's so-called "event zone" and other planned restrictions on protests and parades during the convention would have violated the First Amendment.


Read more: Federal judge overturns Cleveland's restrictions on RNC protests

A federal judge on Thursday scrapped the city of Cleveland's plans for a heightened-security zone that would have encompassed most of downtown during the Republican National Convention, saying that the restrictions are burdensome to people who want to express their free-speech rights.


Link called the settlement a "good deal," saying time was a factor in the negotiations, which were presided over by U.S. District Judge Dan Polster. The convention is scheduled for July 18-21, a little more than three weeks away.

"Is there a better deal out there? Certainly," Link said. "But I think this is the best deal we could have gotten. We don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good."

ACLU officials said they will work to finalize a first draft of the agreement by Monday or Tuesday. It then will go to Cleveland officials for approval.

Dan Williams, a spokesman for Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson, did not return a message seeking comment.

A key feature of the deal is the smaller size of the event zone, inside of which camping, the construction of speaking platforms, and a laundry list of legal weapons and more innocuous everyday items will be banned.

Originally, the zone encompassed a 3.5 square-mile area, and would have stretched from West 25th Street across downtown to the Innerbelt. But Gwin said during a hearing that the area, as originally drawn, was "unduly large."

The judge was also critical of usage restrictions for downtown parks and where and when parades could be held.

As for the parade route, Link did not have the exact locations but described it in general terms.

Like the city's original route, the new route will begin at the west end of the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge and head toward downtown. But rather than turning south at Ontario Avenue, near Progressive Field, and concluding past the Interstate 90 overpass, the new route will return to Carnegie Avenue after a southward turn and turn northward at East 14th Street, before ending somewhere in a nearby area the city has set aside for use by food trucks.

"They're not going to be eyeball-to-eyeball with delegates, but they'll be a lot closer," Link said.

The deal also includes specific concessions for the three groups on whose behalf the ACLU sued. Citizens for Trump, an unofficial group supporting presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, and two left-leaning groups — Organize Ohio and the Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless — all plan to have presence at the GOP convention.

The concessions, according to Link, are:
•Citizens for Trump will be permitted to hold a rally in Settlers Landing Park on the east bank of The Flats, near West St. Clair Avenue and West 10th Street. The city had previously denied the group a permit to hold a rally in a downtown park.
•Organize Ohio will be granted a parade route that begins on the city's east side. The group was seeing an east-side route to symbolically refer to the 50th anniversary of the race-related riots in Hough, the east-side and historically black Cleveland neighborhood.
•The event zone restrictions will not apply to the city's homeless population, which was a concern of the Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless. Police are concerned that demonstrators will infiltrate the homeless population. Link said officials are discussing how the city's homeless population might be easily identified apart from the lawsuit.

Link also said the ACLU negotiated for "soapboxes," upon which people can stand and address the public, to be permitted within the event zone.

The city had said its original event zone it created was to ensure security for people coming downtown.

Cleveland.com reporter Eric Heisig contributed to this story

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You know they aren't going to say "boo" about the preparations being put into place in Philadelphia for the DNC....


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Cleveland FBI 'door knock' protesters expected at RNC

By: Tara Molina
Posted: 5:19 PM, Jun 24, 2016
Updated: 1 hour ago


CLEVELAND - Known protesters are calling out the FBI; they say the agency is coming to their homes to intimidate them with less than a month to go until the RNC.

The FBI, Secret Service, and Cleveland police said they're trying to prepare for the RNC.

Dionne Hudson told NewsChannel 5 she is not ok with their preparation methods.

"It's intimidating. I felt like why are they doing this," Miller said.

Agents and officers are visiting the homes of people who've protested in the past. Hudson said two agents were on her doorstep Tuesday looking for her 20-year-old daughter.

Hudson said they were asking multiple questions.

"Where can we find her at? They asked things of that nature. What's her phone number. It was like they were hunting her down," Hudson said.

Hudson's daughter was arrested for protesting during last year's trial for Michael Brelo, the Cleveland officer was found not guilty in the deaths of two people. Her case was later thrown out.

Hudson said her daughter has no criminal record and has no plans to protest the Republican Nation Convention.

"She has no plans on protesting and has not protested since that day. But if she did, what's the problem, isn't that one of our basic constitutional rights?"

NewsChannel 5 took Hudson's concerns to the FBI and Cleveland police- they would not go on camera, but sent a statement;

"Law enforcement is reaching out to individuals known in the community who may have information that could help to ensure a safe and secure environment during the RNC," an FBI Special Agent shared.

Cleveland's NAACP President, Michael Nelson said he statement isn't good enough. He called the door knocks intimidation.

"It's a constitutional right to assemble and that should no be chilled by what FBI and law enforcement is engaging in," Nelson said.

Nelson requested a meeting with FBI, Police, and Secret Service in hopes of changing the way the agencies 'reach out' in the future.

"They need to cease and desist from intimidating innocent young people and go and get involved in the serious issue of security," he said.

It's not the first time law enforcement reached out to protesters before a political convention. Police infiltrated groups with known plans to protest in 2008 and 2012.


Michael Nelson said he's still waiting on a response to his request for a meeting with the FBI and Cleveland police.

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[Sasquatch]

That judge just played into the wackjobs plans, of which he may be a part.

Cops and GOP Convention Goers are Sitting Ducks, Says Cleveland Police Union

Then just add that several cities have decided not to send their cops.

A very interesting July is coming.

 

[Adino]

Officialdom paving the way for violence to be visited on real Americans whilst their right to free speech and free elections are denied them?!?!?!

Oh...I just can't believe it!

Its unprecedented!

 

[twincougars]

Well you can't have it just one way. You deny freedom of speech and assembly to one group and that greases the slope for denying other groups, including the ones you may support.

 

[Be Well]

Well you can't have it just one way. You deny freedom of speech and assembly to one group and that greases the slope for denying other groups, including the ones you may support.

The "protestors" don't want to hold signs and peaceably assemble, though. Rocks, bottles, baseball bats, breaking car windows, bones, faces, etc is what they want to do, and probably worse than that.