OP-ED JPost editorial: It's time to build the Temple

[cyberiot]

When blood spills on Passover and Easter, it’s time to build the Temple
Opinion: What is Hamas' greatest fear? That Israel will start to build the Temple.
By TULY WEISZ

Published: APRIL 18, 2022 06:22
Updated: APRIL 18, 2022 06:39

A computer-generated rendition of the Third Temple (Credit: YOUTUBE SCREENSHOT)

One would have hoped that yesterday’s unique convergence of Passover, Easter and Ramadan would have led to a wonderful day of peace and brotherhood in the spiritual capital city of Jerusalem. Alas, any dream of religious harmony on a day holy to all three great Abrahamic faiths, was shattered by Muslim rioters who turned the Temple Mount into a bloody battlefield hurling stones at Jewish worshippers and Israeli vehicles.

Palestinian terrorists have been fanning the flames of religious violence in recent weeks, as Israelis have been preparing for the Passover holiday, observed this week. On Thursday evening, April 8, a Palestinian terrorist attacked Tel Aviv’s busy Dizengoff Square where mainly secular Israeli young people were crowded at bars and cafes, tragically murdering three Jews in their 20s.

Shortly after the deadly massacre, Hamas explained their motive and declared, “The continuing terrorism of the occupation and its crimes, attempts to Judaize Jerusalem and to perform sacrifices in the Al-Aqsa Mosque to build its so-called ‘Temple’ during what they call ‘Passover’ — against it stands blood and bullets.”

Through their statement, Hamas exposed their greatest fear: that Israel will start to build the Temple.

For thousands of years, Jews have been praying for a return to the Land of Israel. Over the last century, we have miraculously been restored to our homeland from the four corners of the earth, but are still awaiting the proper time to build the Temple.

Judaism is incomplete without the Temple, and Passover is a prime example, as Deuteronomy makes clear:

“You are not permitted to slaughter the Passover sacrifice in any of the settlements that Hashem your God is giving you; but at the place where Hashem your God will choose to establish His name, there alone shall you slaughter the Pesach sacrifice, in the evening, at sundown, the time of day when you departed from Egypt.” (Deuteronomy 16:5,6)

Rabbi Tuly Weisz (Credit: Courtesy Tuly Weisz)

Hamas is terrified that after close to 75 years of statehood, Israel will begin turning its attention to the place where God chose to establish His name. In fact, each year, more and more Israelis take the dangerous risk of ascending the holy mountain under the hostile guards of Jordanian officials.

Palestinian terrorists are getting scared as Jews are getting serious about restoring our holy of holies, the site we pray towards every day, and the building we beseech God for repeatedly throughout our liturgy.

On a national level, the rebuilding of the Temple would be a great humiliation to Palestinian terror groups, but on a religious level, the construction of Judaism’s Third Temple would in no way pose a threat to Islam, whose main religious holy sites are in Mecca and Medina.

Responsible Jewish, Christian and Muslim leaders should use this recent wave of Islamic violence to immediately begin discussing practical and peaceful steps for the rebuilding of the Temple on the Temple Mount. It could be done without damaging or disrespecting the Dome of the Rock or Al Aqsa, as part of a future peace plan between Israel and her Arab neighbors to end the plague of Islamic terror once and for all.

During periods of history, Islam held great respect for Judaism’s Temple in Jerusalem, and one can imagine many potential scenarios in the ever-changing Mideast, where significant segments of Islam could do so once again.

Similarly, for many centuries, Christianity looked at the Temple with hostility, but as relations between Jews and Evangelicals have improved in recent years, some Christians are rethinking their relationship with the Temple.

I asked John Enarson, the Christian relations director of Cry for Zion, a Temple Mount advocacy group, what his thoughts were on the connection between Easter and the Temple, and the implications for Christians today.

“We Christians have often thought that Resurrection Sunday spelled the end for the Holy Temple in God’s plan,” Enarson explained. “But when we read the Gospels and Book of Acts carefully, the Apostles continued to be passionate for God’s House in Jerusalem, including Paul. As God is restoring Zion, we need to rediscover our own texts with Jewish glasses, and that includes God’s Temple.”

WIth more Christians coming alongside the Jews and becoming passionate about the need to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem, we have a unique opportunity today.

Rather than lamenting the terrible violence that disrupted Passover, Easter and Ramadan, we must take steps to prevent religious violence from causing further blood to be spilled in the streets of Jerusalem. It’s time for peace-loving Jews, Christians and Muslims to come together and build the “house of prayer for all nations.”

Rabbi Tuly Weisz is the founder of Israel365 and the editor of “The Israel Bible” and invites reader feedback at rabbituly@israel365.com.

When blood spills on Passover and Easter, it’s time to build the Temple

Opinion: What is Hamas' greatest fear? That Israel will start to build the Temple.

www.jpost.com

 

[Wiley]

 

[SSTemplar]

If that is part of God’s plan then I would not stand in the way. Jesus has explained to me where my place in the plan is. I can’t speak for the rest of you.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Once the Temple begins to be rebuilt, our time will be truly short. Watch and Pray.

 

[Dozdoats]

Yep. God needs a pile of stones to be built for people to worship in/from/around.

As if He is powerless otherwise.

 

[GammaRat]

For those of us still here...

Keep your eyes on the altar!

When the daily sacrifice is shut down, we will only have 1335 days left.

Jews in Jerusalem should flee to the wilderness...

And I think that's a good advice for anyone else that is still around after the antichrist reveals himself.

 

[OldAndCrazy]

Do it.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

...and many, many more, some of which are much more emphatic but require the use of obscenities so I'm leaving them out.

 

[energy_wave]

The 3rd Temple has been rebuilt under the Temple Mount from what I read. It's already been in use.

 

[Caplock50]

Wellll...............

Yeah, this is a bit old, posted to the net on July 11, 2014, but it does show its 'figurings' on when the Temple will be built. And this will probably get this thread sent to 'Religion' or to 'Alt'...

When Is The Next Biblical Jubilee?

When I wrote the previous article “The Biblical Jubilee”, I did not have any intention of dealing with any endtime event. My desire was simply to study how Israel celebrated their Jubilees according to the Bible.

But after reading the article, someone asked me this very interesting question, “When is the next Biblical Jubilee?” I did some studies, and I was totally awed by what I found.

There are many different opinions on this matter. I will attempt to answer this question by presenting only 3 different scenarios.

Scenario One: When All The Tribes Have Returned Home To Israel

Source: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/513212/jewish/When-is-the-next-Jubilee-year.htm

According to the Jewish rabbis, the Jubilee year is currently not observed or commemorated in Israel. The main reason is that the Jubilee is only observed when all twelve tribes of Israel are living in the Promised Land.

Leviticus 25:10
And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family.

According to this verse, Jubilee is only sanctified when all its inhabitants are living in all the land, and when each tribe is living in the specific area of the land which the LORD had divinely allotted to them.

In the 6th century BC, the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Majority of these Israelites went into exile, and till now, their descendants have still not yet returned home. They are historically known as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

After this point in time, the Jubilee was not regularly observed or commemorated in Israel.

Thus, according to this reasoning, the next Biblical Jubilee year in Israel will only be celebrated when God brings back all the tribes home to Israel. It will begin on the most important and holiest day of the Hebraic calendar - Yom Kippur or the Day of Atonement. The year is only known to God.

Leviticus 25:9
Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land.



Scenario Two: Yom Kippur 2027

Source: http://www.giveshare.org/HolyDay/Jubilee.html

According to William Whiston's footnotes to Josephus's book entitled “Antiquities of the Jews”, 24 BC was a Sabbatical year, and 23 BC was a Jubilee year.

If 23 BC was a Jubilee year, then its next Jubilee would begin on Yom Kippur in 27 AD. That was the year that Jesus began His ministry. Jesus was born in 4 BC and crucified in 30 AD.

Luke 4:17-19
And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah.
And when He had opened the book,
He found the place where it was written:
“The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”

By adding 2000 years or 40 Jubilees later, the next Biblical Jubilee in Israel will be in 2027 AD. It will begin on Yom Kippur in the evening of October 10.

Scenario Three: Yom Kippur 2017

Sources:
http://focusontheprophecies.org/Jubilee_2017.htm
http://destination-yisrael.biblesearchers.com/destination-yisrael/2012/12/rabbi-judah-ben-samuels-Jubilee-prophecy-gives-the-year-of-the-messiah.html

This will be the 120th Jubilee or 6000 years from the day of creation.

From Creation to Exodus (1483 BC)	2500 years	50 Jubilees
From Exodus (1483 BC) to 2017 AD	3500 years	70 Jubilees
From Creation to 2017 AD	6000 years	120 Jubilees

There was an interesting prophecy given by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel in 1217 AD that revealed the year of the Messiah.


Also known as Judah He-Hasid or Judah the Pious, this rabbi lived in the 12th and 13th century in Germany. He was born in Speyer in 1140, and died in 22 February 1217 in Regensbug.

He was one of the fathers of Chassidei (Hassidic Judaism), a movement of Jewish mysticism that was very different from Kabbalistic mysticism. The Chassids emphasized strong moral ethics and prayer.

It was in the year of 1217 AD that this legendary rabbi made an astounding prediction about the future of Jerusalem and the coming of the Messiah.

In 1217, Rabbi Judah ben Samuel began publishing his Biblical calculations called the Gematria, plus his astronomical observations and gave this prophecy:

In summary - “When the Ottomans (Turks) – who were already a power to be reckoned with
on the Bosporus in the time of Judah Ben Samuel –
conquer Jerusalem they will rule over Jerusalem for eight Jubilees.
Afterwards Jerusalem will become no-man’s land for one Jubilee,
and then in the ninth Jubilee it will once again come back into the possession of the Jewish nation –
which would signify the beginning of the Messianic endtime.”

According to some of his pupils, Rabbi Judah the Pious was an excellent and godly example of strict abstinence and selfless service to others. His burning desire was praying for the coming of the Messiah.

When people questioned about his source of revelation and wisdom, his answer was: “The prophet Elijah, who will precede the Messiah, appeared to me and revealed many things to me and emphasized that the precondition for answered prayer is that it is fueled by enthusiasm and joy for the greatness and holiness of God.”

Unknown to Rabbi Judah ben Samuel, the first known reference of the Ottomans was in 1215 AD, just two years before he died. The Ottomans were a Turkish speaking tribe that was first ruled by Ertugrul in the land of Anatolia. His son, Osman, then became the father of the Ottoman Turks.

As Judah ben Samuel had predicted, 300 years later or six Jubilees after 1217 AD, the Ottoman Turks took control of Jerusalem for 400 years (8 Jubilees) until they were overthrown by the British and Allied forces under the command of General George Allenby in 1917.

Even after the Declaration of Independence by Israel in 15 May 1948, the city of Jerusalem remained a divided city. The Jordanian government controlled the eastern part of Jerusalem including the Temple Mount and the Old City of Jerusalem. There was a strip of land dividing Western Jerusalem (controlled by the State of Israel) and East Jerusalem (controlled by the Jordanians). This strip of land was called “The No-Man’s Land” by both Israelis and Jordanians.

Then in 1967, Israel was attacked again. After the Six Day War, on 17 June 1967, the entire region of the West Bank was conquered by the Israeli Army. The entire city of Jerusalem was returned back to the Jewish people.

750 years after the prophecy was first made by the rabbi, from 1217 to 1967, almost all the texts of the prophecy were fulfilled to the date.

The remaining portion of his prophecy is this: “In the ninth Jubilee Jerusalem will once again come back into the possession of the Jewish nation – which will signify the beginning of the Messianic endtime.”

According to this Jewish rabbi, the end of this ninth Jubilee will “signify the beginning of the Messianic endtime.”

If so, the next Jubilee in Israel will be Yom Kippur 2017. It will begin in the evening of Friday, 29 September 2017.

Our God is faithful to fulfill whatever He has promised in His written Word – the Holy Bible:

Isaiah 55:11
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;
It shall not return to Me void,
But it shall accomplish what I please,
And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.

When I read about Rabbi Judah ben Samuel, my heart was thrilled. Why? Simply because God is still revealing His plan and purpose to His beloved people in Israel who are waiting upon Him and desiring to hear His still small voice.

If you ask me which scenario is most likely to happen, my reply will be: "Please seek God and ask Him personally." Maybe another scenario may happen. Hereby I am not prophesying or making any prediction. I am just sharing my findings with you. Like the question whether we will be taken by the Lord before the Tribulation (pre-Trib) or in the middle of the Tribulation (mid-Trib) or after the Tribulation (post-Trib). My answer is: “Pray for pre-Trib but be prepared for post-Trib. If mid-Trib happens, we will be both ready and thankful.”

This one thing I will do: Read Matthew 25.

1. Be ready (The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins)
2. Be faithful (The Parable of the Talents)
3. Be loving (The Parable of the Sheep and Goats)

And while we are redeeming the time, let’s remember to proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD – His Jubilee!

Maranatha! Come, O Lord!

Note: You may be interested to know what another well-known rabbi did before his death in 2006. Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri revealed the name of the Messiah! Just click here to watch a 5-minute video.

Please also read: The Biblical Jubilee

Written on 11 July 2014

When Is The Next Biblical Jubilee?

www.thejoshlink.com

 

[GammaRat]

Very thorough, Caplock!

Thank you

 

[Countrymouse]

Wellll...............

Yeah, this is a bit old, posted to the net on July 11, 2014, but it does show its 'figurings' on when the Temple will be built. And this will probably get this thread sent to 'Religion' or to 'Alt'...

When Is The Next Biblical Jubilee?

When I wrote the previous article “The Biblical Jubilee”, I did not have any intention of dealing with any endtime event. My desire was simply to study how Israel celebrated their Jubilees according to the Bible.

But after reading the article, someone asked me this very interesting question, “When is the next Biblical Jubilee?” I did some studies, and I was totally awed by what I found.

There are many different opinions on this matter. I will attempt to answer this question by presenting only 3 different scenarios.

Scenario One: When All The Tribes Have Returned Home To Israel

Source: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/513212/jewish/When-is-the-next-Jubilee-year.htm

According to the Jewish rabbis, the Jubilee year is currently not observed or commemorated in Israel. The main reason is that the Jubilee is only observed when all twelve tribes of Israel are living in the Promised Land.

Leviticus 25:10
And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family.

According to this verse, Jubilee is only sanctified when all its inhabitants are living in all the land, and when each tribe is living in the specific area of the land which the LORD had divinely allotted to them.

In the 6th century BC, the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom of Israel. Majority of these Israelites went into exile, and till now, their descendants have still not yet returned home. They are historically known as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

After this point in time, the Jubilee was not regularly observed or commemorated in Israel.

Thus, according to this reasoning, the next Biblical Jubilee year in Israel will only be celebrated when God brings back all the tribes home to Israel. It will begin on the most important and holiest day of the Hebraic calendar - Yom Kippur or the Day of Atonement. The year is only known to God.

Leviticus 25:9
Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land.



Scenario Two: Yom Kippur 2027

Source: http://www.giveshare.org/HolyDay/Jubilee.html

According to William Whiston's footnotes to Josephus's book entitled “Antiquities of the Jews”, 24 BC was a Sabbatical year, and 23 BC was a Jubilee year.

If 23 BC was a Jubilee year, then its next Jubilee would begin on Yom Kippur in 27 AD. That was the year that Jesus began His ministry. Jesus was born in 4 BC and crucified in 30 AD.

Luke 4:17-19
And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah.
And when He had opened the book,
He found the place where it was written:
“The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.”

By adding 2000 years or 40 Jubilees later, the next Biblical Jubilee in Israel will be in 2027 AD. It will begin on Yom Kippur in the evening of October 10.

Scenario Three: Yom Kippur 2017

Sources:
http://focusontheprophecies.org/Jubilee_2017.htm
http://destination-yisrael.biblesearchers.com/destination-yisrael/2012/12/rabbi-judah-ben-samuels-Jubilee-prophecy-gives-the-year-of-the-messiah.html

This will be the 120th Jubilee or 6000 years from the day of creation.

From Creation to Exodus (1483 BC)	2500 years	50 Jubilees
From Exodus (1483 BC) to 2017 AD	3500 years	70 Jubilees
From Creation to 2017 AD	6000 years	120 Jubilees

There was an interesting prophecy given by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel in 1217 AD that revealed the year of the Messiah.



Also known as Judah He-Hasid or Judah the Pious, this rabbi lived in the 12th and 13th century in Germany. He was born in Speyer in 1140, and died in 22 February 1217 in Regensbug.

He was one of the fathers of Chassidei (Hassidic Judaism), a movement of Jewish mysticism that was very different from Kabbalistic mysticism. The Chassids emphasized strong moral ethics and prayer.

It was in the year of 1217 AD that this legendary rabbi made an astounding prediction about the future of Jerusalem and the coming of the Messiah.

In 1217, Rabbi Judah ben Samuel began publishing his Biblical calculations called the Gematria, plus his astronomical observations and gave this prophecy:

In summary - “When the Ottomans (Turks) – who were already a power to be reckoned with
on the Bosporus in the time of Judah Ben Samuel –
conquer Jerusalem they will rule over Jerusalem for eight Jubilees.
Afterwards Jerusalem will become no-man’s land for one Jubilee,
and then in the ninth Jubilee it will once again come back into the possession of the Jewish nation –
which would signify the beginning of the Messianic endtime.”

According to some of his pupils, Rabbi Judah the Pious was an excellent and godly example of strict abstinence and selfless service to others. His burning desire was praying for the coming of the Messiah.

When people questioned about his source of revelation and wisdom, his answer was: “The prophet Elijah, who will precede the Messiah, appeared to me and revealed many things to me and emphasized that the precondition for answered prayer is that it is fueled by enthusiasm and joy for the greatness and holiness of God.”

Unknown to Rabbi Judah ben Samuel, the first known reference of the Ottomans was in 1215 AD, just two years before he died. The Ottomans were a Turkish speaking tribe that was first ruled by Ertugrul in the land of Anatolia. His son, Osman, then became the father of the Ottoman Turks.

As Judah ben Samuel had predicted, 300 years later or six Jubilees after 1217 AD, the Ottoman Turks took control of Jerusalem for 400 years (8 Jubilees) until they were overthrown by the British and Allied forces under the command of General George Allenby in 1917.

Even after the Declaration of Independence by Israel in 15 May 1948, the city of Jerusalem remained a divided city. The Jordanian government controlled the eastern part of Jerusalem including the Temple Mount and the Old City of Jerusalem. There was a strip of land dividing Western Jerusalem (controlled by the State of Israel) and East Jerusalem (controlled by the Jordanians). This strip of land was called “The No-Man’s Land” by both Israelis and Jordanians.

Then in 1967, Israel was attacked again. After the Six Day War, on 17 June 1967, the entire region of the West Bank was conquered by the Israeli Army. The entire city of Jerusalem was returned back to the Jewish people.

750 years after the prophecy was first made by the rabbi, from 1217 to 1967, almost all the texts of the prophecy were fulfilled to the date.

The remaining portion of his prophecy is this: “In the ninth Jubilee Jerusalem will once again come back into the possession of the Jewish nation – which will signify the beginning of the Messianic endtime.”

According to this Jewish rabbi, the end of this ninth Jubilee will “signify the beginning of the Messianic endtime.”

If so, the next Jubilee in Israel will be Yom Kippur 2017. It will begin in the evening of Friday, 29 September 2017.

Our God is faithful to fulfill whatever He has promised in His written Word – the Holy Bible:

Isaiah 55:11
So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth;
It shall not return to Me void,
But it shall accomplish what I please,
And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.

When I read about Rabbi Judah ben Samuel, my heart was thrilled. Why? Simply because God is still revealing His plan and purpose to His beloved people in Israel who are waiting upon Him and desiring to hear His still small voice.

If you ask me which scenario is most likely to happen, my reply will be: "Please seek God and ask Him personally." Maybe another scenario may happen. Hereby I am not prophesying or making any prediction. I am just sharing my findings with you. Like the question whether we will be taken by the Lord before the Tribulation (pre-Trib) or in the middle of the Tribulation (mid-Trib) or after the Tribulation (post-Trib). My answer is: “Pray for pre-Trib but be prepared for post-Trib. If mid-Trib happens, we will be both ready and thankful.”

This one thing I will do: Read Matthew 25.

1. Be ready (The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins)
2. Be faithful (The Parable of the Talents)
3. Be loving (The Parable of the Sheep and Goats)

And while we are redeeming the time, let’s remember to proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD – His Jubilee!

Maranatha! Come, O Lord!

Note: You may be interested to know what another well-known rabbi did before his death in 2006. Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri revealed the name of the Messiah! Just click here to watch a 5-minute video.

Please also read: The Biblical Jubilee

Written on 11 July 2014

When Is The Next Biblical Jubilee?

www.thejoshlink.com

and of course it was in 2017 that the momentous recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's true capital took place

setting the stage.............

 

[TKO]

The 3rd Temple has been rebuilt under the Temple Mount from what I read. It's already been in use.

What do they do in it?

 

[GammaRat]

What do they do in it?

IF there is one, there's certainly no altar to burn animal sacrifices on. How would you hold a barbecue in a room with no exhaust for the smoke? (my wife does it every time she cooks )

I HIGHLY doubt that it exists.

 

[Caplock50]

and of course it was in 2017 that the momentous recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's true capital took place

setting the stage.............

Thanks! I'd forgotten about that...

 

[Marie]

Not much time left indeed

 

[Squib]

No, keep your eyes on the true Temple that was torn down and raised up in three days! Our Lord Jesus Christ!

That stone building the Jewish leaders worshipped was destroyed 2 millennia ago just as He said it would be.

There is no new priesthood as all believers and a kingdom of priests.

There is no human high priest, other than Jesus Christ.

There is no daily sacrifice as “Jesus Christ was offered up as our Passover once for all!”

Don’t listen to Christ rejecting Jews…they didn’t even recognize their own Messiah and King when He came to them…

The Rabbis do not follow Moses and certainly don’t believe in and fear the Lord…don’t follow blind leaders.

Why focus on a dead religion of those who rejected their Messiah and King and who were cursed for it?

Evangelize them - sure, just like all others…but these people who run around trying to pay attention to ‘blood moon’ this, or falling into Judaism are LARPPING - live action role playing like they’re somehow closer to our Lord for observing sabbaths, feasts, and vain customs.

Flame on!

 

[Honglee]

Why focus on a dead religion of those who rejected their Messiah and King and who were cursed for it?

Because that book called THE BIBLE (Old and New Testament) declares the prophetic word of God.

 

[LightEcho]

Can you imagine a greater insult to YHWH the Almighty God, than to reject the blood sacrifice, the life of the only pure man who was also the Son of God, and build a temple where animal blood is consider better than the Lamb of God? If they rebuild a temple, 66% of Israel will be wiped out.

 

[energy_wave]

How would you hold a barbecue in a room with no exhaust for the smoke?

Microwave oven.

 

[energy_wave]

and of course it was in 2017 that the momentous recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's true capital took place

setting the stage.............

Biblical signs in the sky on September 23, 2017?

| EarthSky

A mirror in the sky to "signs" from the Bible's Book of Revelation? Possibly. But this same sky scene has been seen 4 other times in the past 1,000 years. An astronomer explains.

earthsky.org

 

[Squib]

Because that book called THE BIBLE (Old and New Testament) declares the prophetic word of God.

I didn’t say anything about sacred scripture being dead. I said a dead religion…

Judaism as practiced today by and large is Rabbinical Judaism…ask any practicing Jew.

Please reread my post…carefully. Where did I err?

Without the physical temple, consecrated human priesthood, anointed high priest, animal sacrifices, how can there be blood atonement for a follower of OT law?

There cannot. Thus after the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70 and the death/enslavement of a majority of Jews - just as Jesus Christ foretold - the surviving rabbis changed from following Moses - or Temple Judaism, to Rabbinical Judaism - following traditions of the ancient rabbis…you know, the ones who rejected Jesus?!

Truth be told, anyone with a passing familiarity with Scripture knows that our Lord condemned the twisted traditions of the law that was commonly taught and practiced even in His earthly ministry.

Thats Because even then, God’s holy Word was being largely ignored by the ruling Jews and the resulting ‘dead religion’ was corrupt beyond repair. Even today as then - ‘the traditions of the fathers’ was more important that God’s Word…today you hear Jews speaking about…”Mishnah this”, and “Talmud that”, why?

Physical, earthly Israel rejected her king, crucified Him, and as a nation and institution is under judgment along with fallen mankind - their only hope is to submit to and be pardoned by Jesus Christ to whom all power and authority in Heaven & Earth has been given.

That goes for us all…

 

[Jez]

Can you imagine a greater insult to YHWH the Almighty God, than to reject the blood sacrifice, the life of the only pure man who was also the Son of God, and build a temple where animal blood is consider better than the Lamb of God? If they rebuild a temple, 66% of Israel will be wiped out.

Yes and no. Remember during the Millennium Kingdom when Jesus is on the throne, the Temple will be up and running. As I understand it, it's essentially a memorial. We are still in the time of the Gentiles, the Jews rejection of the Messiah is our gain. ROMANS 1:16. It will take the 3rd Temple and its desecration to finally make them see. I wish it wasn't necessary, but that's The Plan. I for one am grateful for God's perseverance and willingness to keep to the Covenant He made, because if He was willing to change His mind there, what security would we have in Jesus? The Good Shepherd will always search for that last lost little lamb who wandered astray.

 

[Squib]

Yes and no. Remember during the Millennium Kingdom when Jesus is on the throne, the Temple will be up and running. As I understand it, it's essentially a memorial. We are still in the time of the Gentiles, the Jews rejection of the Messiah is our gain. ROMANS 1:16. It will take the 3rd Temple and its desecration to finally make them see. I wish it wasn't necessary, but that's The Plan. I for one am grateful for God's perseverance and willingness to keep to the Covenant He made, because if He was willing to change His mind there, what security would we have in Jesus? The Good Shepherd will always search for that last lost little lamb who wandered astray.

Respectfully, that’s just one group of Christians‘ view, nowhere in the New Testament is there a command to build or rebuild the temple - the Temple is now Jesus Christ as the chief cornerstone and all of His redeemed as living stones that make up that eternal temple…the new Jerusalem.

 

[Jez]

Respectfully, that’s just one group of Christians‘ view, nowhere in the New Testament is there a command to build or rebuild the temple - the Temple is now Jesus Christ as the chief cornerstone and all of His redeemed as living stones that make up that eternal temple…the new Jerusalem.

Scripture includes Both Old and New Testaments, my friend. Torah and Tenach (if I remember correctly) is the Old Testament and is still very much relevant. The Law is still in place because it is the measurement stick that we can't measure up to. That's why Jesus's sacrifice pays our way.

Further discussion on this would be better suited in the Religion section so that's all I'll say here.

 

[Squib]

Scripture includes Both Old and New Testaments, my friend. Torah and Tenach (if I remember correctly) is the Old Testament and is still very much relevant. The Law is still in place because it is the measurement stick that we can't measure up to. That's why Jesus's sacrifice pays our way.

Further discussion on this would be better suited in the Religion section so that's all I'll say here.

Again, I never said it didn’t. Where did I say that?

I never spoke against the law either…and didn’t say it wasn’t relevant…

But, if you persist in trusting in your own righteousness which comes from the law, or worse yet, dead rabbinical judaism, rather than Christ Jesus and the New Covenant…you are dead in your sins…

Please reread, carefully, my posts above…

 

[JF&P]

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If God wants the third temple...
Then it will happen irregardless of the various human scriptural interpretations and opinions.

I will Trust in Him.

 

[GammaRat]

our Lord condemned the twisted traditions of the law that was commonly taught and practiced even in His earthly ministry.

You mentioned in a later post that you never spoke against the Law.

I'm assuming your above quote means all the added rabbinical crap, and not what was given by Moses.

If that is the case I would agree with you.

It seems to me the Jews ADD to Torah and Christians SUBTRACT from Torah.

I don't believe anyone on TB2K is an orthodox Jew.

I do know several that love the Messiah and also keep the commandments to the best of their ability. They would also say they do it out of loving obedience, and it's not a 'salvation by works' thing.

They're just trying to not add or subtract from scripture.

 

[GammaRat]

nowhere in the New Testament is there a command to build or rebuild the temple

I see the key phrase is "nowhere in the NEW Testament."

There IS the Ezekiel temple in the Old Testament.

Now ...

Why would Jews defer to the New Testament, when it comes to rebuilding their temple?

They wouldn't!

So the way things are looking, they will probably build a temple and start the daily sacrifices at some point in the future.

 

[Squib]

You mentioned in a later post that you never spoke against the Law.

I'm assuming your above quote means all the added rabbinical crap, and not what was given by Moses.

Well, yes, that’s why I specifically mentioned the traditions of men and rabbinical Judaism more than once.

If that is the case I would agree with you.

It seems to me the Jews ADD to Torah and Christians SUBTRACT from Torah.

Its worse than that…as I said, theyve perverted Gods word “by their vain traditions” is the way our Lord stated it.

I don't believe anyone on TB2K is an orthodox Jew.

I do know several that love the Messiah and also keep the commandments to the best of their ability. They would also say they do it out of loving obedience, and it's not a 'salvation by works' thing.

Oh, I‘m certain you’re correct…but for some it may become a back door salvation effort as we can’t know anyone’s hearts. In the NT Paul and others fought against the Judaizers who insisted on ‘Jesus + Law’ I.e. Circumcision, etc.

Thats why even today, some jewish believers didn’t heed our Lords warning to flee Jerusalem when they saw the armies encircling the city. The believing Jews didn’t ignore Christ’s command to flee and we’re saved…the others stayed to help fight to save the Temple of God…and died horrible deaths.

They're just trying to not add or subtract from scripture.

Agreed, both are an abomination.

My responses in bold.