ALERT It's over at Kabul: Last plane out - Gateway Pundit

greysage

On The Level
So since these diaper headed monsters think dogs are unclean, those dogs released just made their fancy new international airport unclean. I cannot imagine a worse fate for these poor pups. Whatever happened to euthanize on the tarmac? That was the agreed upon solution for both NOWZAD and KSAR. Who broke and couldn't pull that off?

All I can say is I remember the video of the K9 that fell in to taliban hands after it's handler was shot. That was several years ago.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Nothing ever seems to work out beneficially, either with domestic or foreign policies. This latest disaster, which is too mild a word, has been so badly planned that it is hard to believe it was not deliberate.

You know brother, Patrick Henry wrote about turning our eyes away from a painful truth. Get your head out of where you might like this to go and place it squarely where it needs to be. You would do no less in battle, and the last I checked, we are in one.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
Re: leaving service dogs behind

The military did this when they left Viet Nam - sickened me then, sickens me now. Another administration where American lives don't matter; where military working dogs lives don't matter. They are all just fodder. I don't trust the State Department - they wanted to charge American $2,000 a piece to get a ride out of Kabul - only when there was outrage did they drop the charge. Absolutely pathetic!! Only after there was outrage did the State Department step in for these dogs.
Seems only 'outrage' moves this State Department. Doing the right thing is beyond their understanding. What a nasty POC administration.

"A non-profit group is working diligently to rescue dozens of U.S. military working dogs abandoned at the Hamid Karzai International Airport on Monday as the war in Afghanistan officially ended and the last transport plane went wheels up at the Taliban-imposed deadline.

Later in the day, Pentagon officials announced that while all U.S. troops had been withdrawn, “hundreds” of Americans remained stranded in the war-torn country, though roughly two weeks ago, President Joe Biden pledged that no American would be left behind.

"But apparently, American citizens weren’t the only ones, according to Joshua Hosler, president of a group called Veteran Sheepdogs of America.

According to TMZ, the organization was tasked with the responsibility of getting 51 military working dogs out of Kabul last week, tweeting a picture over the weekend of several dog carriers in front of a helicopter that looks out of action. Those crates represented a small part of the overall number of dogs that were abandoned during the military withdrawal, Hosler said.

“UPDATE: Kabul Airfield. Working on getting working dogs out. Whatever mess you think Kabul is… it’s worse!” the group noted in a tweet accompanying the posted photo.

A subsequent tweet included another photo of still more carriers containing more working dogs.

Hosler told TMZ he is in a desperate plea for $1.67 million to cover the costs of boarding the dogs on a 737 commercial airliner out of the country, and that he’s close to achieving his objective.

“Joshua tells us they’ve reached the $1.4 million mark with two big donors to still come through, he’s confident they’ll hit their goal of $1.67 million,” TMZ posted in an update late Monday afternoon.

Before, Hosler’s group posted that it had reached the funding goal but that an animal rights group fell through, leaving them short again.

“51 contracted military working dogs are safe & being cared for in their crates. We had all funds for the plane, but an animal rescue org fell through. So we are scrambling to cover their amount of $500,000 of the $1.67 million,” the group posted.

“State Department has heard your cries & is assisting. THANK YOU! The Turkish have taken over the airfield & things are actually smoother than the last 2 days to get info & PPR papers to Ramstein,” the massive U.S. airbase in Germany, the group wrote in another post.

The plan, the group added, is to get the dogs to Germany where they will be quarantined for a month before being put aboard planes back to the U.S. and, eventually, “donated to police departments in need.”


Another group called American Humane, which is dedicated to providing for the safety and care of animals, said Monday that it will stand by to assist in transporting contract K-9 ‘soldiers’ to the U.S. and provide a lifetime of medical care for them.

“It sickens us to sit idly by and watch these brave dogs who valiantly served our country be put to death or worse,” Dr. Robin R. Ganzert, president and CEO of the organization, said in a statement. “In order to prevent this tragedy from occurring, these K-9’s should be loaded into whatever cargo space remains and flown to safety.

“I am devastated by reports that the American government is pulling out of Kabul and leaving behind brave U.S. military contract working dogs to be tortured and killed at the hand of our enemies,” Ganzert noted further. “These brave dogs do the same dangerous, lifesaving work as our military working dogs, and deserved a far better fate than the one to which they have been condemned.”



 
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
If those were the dogs from Kabul Animal Rescue Charlotte was not allowed to stay or do anything like open the cages or Euthanize the dogs.

She was escorted off base clutching a disabled puppy in her arms and thrown back to the mercy of the Taliban. The woman is a US Citizen.

There is a debate going on right now if the dogs were the ones from the rescue that were not allowed to board the plane sent for them (this was different from Rescue from Pens, they worked together but were different rescues), The State Department Contractors or US military.

My guess is that it is either Shelter Dogs taken from Charlotte or Contractor Dogs, the military usually doesn't leave them after the push back from what happened in Vietnam.

But then there is nothing usual about this "retrograde" cough, cough...
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
Taliban mock West by holding fake funerals for British, American and NATO forces with flags draped over coffins

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Krayola

Veteran Member
Unfortunately, what comes next will be the stories of the people trapped.
We know the truth of what will be happening to those poor people trapped over there but the MSM and tech giants (FB/twit) will do their very best to censor/cover it all up so that Xiden can "run his victory lap" and crow about how he ended America's longest war.

Isn't that the guy that turned American women away at the gate to the airbase?
Yes, I believe that was him. I saw more than one report. The stories about some of the US military (if true) turning Americans away from the airport, including women/kids, knowing what awaited them if they could not escape the Taliban is very alarming. If some were willing to "follow orders" and do that to American citizens overseas, one wonders what could happen here.
:dstrs:
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We know the truth of what will be happening to those poor people trapped over there but the MSM and tech giants (FB/twit) will do their very best to censor/cover it all up so that Xiden can "run his victory lap" and crow about how he ended America's longest war.


Yes, I believe that was him. I saw more than one report. The stories about some of the US military (if true) turning Americans away from the airport, including women/kids, knowing what awaited them if they could not escape the Taliban is very alarming. If some were willing to "follow orders" and do that to American citizens overseas, one wonders what could happen here.
:dstrs:

They will follow orders.
 

Repairman-Jack

Veteran Member
The US and UK military got their K9s out. The K9s in those carriers are contractors to State Department who were supporting the Afghan Army. The contractor personnel were put on planes and State essentially wrote off the K9s instead of pushing to get space on a plane for them.

At least it wasn't as many as in Iraq. There over 100 contractor K9s were turned over to the Iraqi Army to use. The Iraqis immediately killed them all.
Thanks for the info, sadly just as angry now as I was when I saw the first post last evening.
 

The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
The latest update from Emily Miller

Afghanistan Evacuation and Retired Special Ops Rescue Mission- UPDATE 8/31 5pm ET - by Emily Miller - Emily Posts (emilypostnews.com)

Afghanistan Evacuation and Retired Special Ops Rescue Mission- UPDATE 8/31 5pm ET
Updates on the Biden withdrawals,Americans left behind, Afghan allies

Tuesday afternoon DC/Tuesday night in Afghanistan - Aug. 31

5pm ET - I am getting very worried about the coming rescue operations. There are groups of retired special operators funded by private organizations who are planning rescue missions for both Americans and Afghans. I’ve linked up any who come through me.

BUT these groups are not organized together. Most don’t even know each other. I'm worried the veterans are going to get hurt. I worry the people in Afghanistan on various lists will fall through the cracks again. This is what happens when a government is not functional.

4pm - I was contacted by 14 employees of a US defense company to get rescued. I have all their names and details. I tried contacting the company. My group knows about them and is trying to help. BUT WHERE IS MY GOVERNMENT ?!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
What? This?

Rumble — BREAKING NEWS:
Biden is BLOCKING the rescue of over 86 Americans who are trying to fly out of Afghanistan.
OMG, yes this is worth listening too and he gives the phone numbers to the White House to flood the public phone lines. This is just horrific - the State Department is not only preventing the rescues, but the State Department is also asking all neighboring countries and those that work with the US to DENY THEM ENTRY.

Then it tells American citizens or Afghans to "Apply for Visas at the US Embassy" except of course there IS NOT US EMBASSY for them to seek assistance (US citizens) or Visas (Afghan spouses, translators et) because they have left the country.

Not allowing evacuation plans to land is pure evil, telling people to go to an embassy that does not exist for assistance is also pure evil.

And evil is a word I don't throw around like confetti either, but sometimes it fits.
 

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
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What? This?

Rumble — BREAKING NEWS:
Biden is BLOCKING the rescue of over 86 Americans who are trying to fly out of Afghanistan.
It's a Rumble video that I can't get embeded. Maybe someone else will have better luck. S. Gorka is saying that he knows of 86 U.S. that are trying to get out. The State Department is doing the best to put the kabash on any private rescue attempts.
 
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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city


All I was able to copy from the WSJ article until the paywall came down:

Afghan Interpreter Who Helped Rescue Biden in 2008 Left Behind After U.S. Exit

Mohammed, stranded in Afghanistan and hiding from the Taliban, makes a White House appeal: ‘Don’t forget me here’



Taliban Take Over Kabul’s Airport After U.S. Troops Leave Afghanistan



Taliban Take Over Kabul’s Airport After U.S. Troops Leave Afghanistan

Taliban militants took control of Kabul’s airport after the last U.S. cargo plane took off before President Biden’s Aug. 31 deadline. The departure marks the end of America’s longest war, which lasted nearly 20 years. Photo: Taliban/Reuters

WSJ News Exclusive | Afghan Interpreter Who Helped Rescue Biden in 2008 Left Behind After U.S. Exit

Updated Aug. 31, 2021 5:22 pm ET

Thirteen years ago, Afghan interpreter Mohammed helped rescue then-Sen. Joe Biden and two other senators stranded in a remote Afghanistan valley after their helicopter was forced to land in a snowstorm. Now, Mohammed is asking President Biden to save him.

“Hello Mr. President: Save me and my family,” Mohammed, who asked not to use his full name while in hiding, told The Wall Street Journal as the last Americans flew out of Kabul on Monday. “Don’t forget me here.”

Mohammed, his wife, and their four children are hiding from the Taliban after his yearslong attempt to get out of Afghanistan got tangled in the bureaucracy. They are among countless Afghan allies who were left behind when the U.S. ended its 20-year military campaign in Afghanistan on Monday.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki thanked the interpreter for his service Tuesday and said the U.S. remains committed to getting Afghan allies out of the country. “We will get you out,” Ms. Psaki said after a Wall Street Journal reporter read Mohammed’s message to the president. “We will honor your service.”

Mohammed was a 36-year-old interpreter for the U.S. Army in 2008 when two U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopters made an emergency landing in Afghanistan during a blinding snowstorm, according to Army veterans who worked with him at the time. On board were three U.S. senators: Mr. Biden (D., Del.), John Kerry (D., Mass.) and Chuck Schumer…
 

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
Not sure how the heck that script got in there :strs:
 
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mzkitty

I give up.
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It's a Rumble video that I can't get embeded. Maybe someone else will have better luck. S. Gorka is saying that he knows of 86 U.S. that are trying to get out. The State Department is doing the best to put the kabash on any private rescue attempts.

I don't think Rumble embeds here (some don't). So as long as you gave the link, people can watch it over there.

:)
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Tidings of things to come:

The Taliban has recently said that they have relaxed their stance on women's rights, but have signalled their intention to deny girls' education past the age of 12, to ban women from employment and reinstate the law requiring women to be accompanied by a man.

'They Kill Us, Feed Us to Dogs': Afghan Woman Who Was Shot, Eyes Gouged Out Says Return of Taliban Spells Doom


33-year-old Khatera, who was shot by the insurgent fighters in Afghanistan’s Ghazni province last year and her eyes gouged out after the assault. (Ahona Sengupta/News18)

Ahona Sengupta

“In the eyes of Taliban, women are not living, breathing human beings, but merely some meat and flesh to be battered,” said 33-year-old Khatera, who was shot by the insurgent fighters in Afghanistan’s Ghazni province last year and her eyes gouged out after the assault. She has been living with her husband and toddler for her treatment in Delhi since November 2020. It was her father, a former Taliban fighter, who conspired the attack on her, she told News18 in Delhi on Sunday.

Khatera, a former police personnel, was brutalised by the Taliban last year in October when she was two months pregnant. On her way back home from work, she was accosted by three Taliban fighters who checked her ID first, then shot her multiple times. She took eight bullets in her upper body and indiscriminate knife injuries all over. The Taliban pierced her eyes with knives after she fell unconscious and left her to die.

“They (Taliban) first torture us (women) and then discard our bodies to show as specimen of punishment. Sometimes our bodies are fed to dogs. I was lucky that I survived it. One has to live in Afghanistan under the Taliban to even imagine what hell has befallen on the women, children and minorities there,” Khatera said.

In the past week, Kasturba Niketan in Delhi’s Lajpat Nagar area has lost its regular hustle bustle. The colony that is inhabited by refugees from Afghanistan has lost its sheen to constant trepidation. What now exists is an aura of tension. However, on Sunday, the foreboding was palpable with failed attempts of frantic phone calls to connect with families in a far-off homeland that fell to the Taliban.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
OMG, yes this is worth listening too and he gives the phone numbers to the White House to flood the public phone lines. This is just horrific - the State Department is not only preventing the rescues, but the State Department is also asking all neighboring countries and those that work with the US to DENY THEM ENTRY.

Then it tells American citizens or Afghans to "Apply for Visas at the US Embassy" except of course there IS NOT US EMBASSY for them to seek assistance (US citizens) or Visas (Afghan spouses, translators et) because they have left the country.

Not allowing evacuation plans to land is pure evil, telling people to go to an embassy that does not exist for assistance is also pure evil.

And evil is a word I don't throw around like confetti either, but sometimes it fits.

SEBASTIAN GORKA.

He says you can also stream him live on Facebook & Rumble--his show is "America First"---where he goes over the details again.
 

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
Afghanistan Evacuation and Retired Special Ops Rescue Mission- UPDATE 8/31 9pm ET - by Emily Miller - Emily Posts (emilypostnews.com)

Tuesday afternoon DC/Tuesday night in Afghanistan - Aug. 31
9pm ET- It’s getting more confusing to add more alias names for sources so I’ll call the new retired special ops sources Operator 2 and Operator 3. They work together. One of them sent me this text message he’s been having with a family that has two U.S. citizens and four green card holders.


8pm ET- I just spoke on the phone with two guys who are retired special forces who also served in Afghanistan. They have been working to rescue people and got two people out before the U.S. closed the airport. They are in touch with more than 25 families (each family has many relatives) who should have been evacuated but were left behind.

I connected them in the group text with all my other sources. The group is sharing critical information on movement and logistics in Afghanistan and possible routes to plan the rescues. I asked them if they wanted anything made public, and they sent this to me to share:

There are over 100 Afghans who have been left behind that our group of Special Operations veterans (including Green Berets & Rangers) is directly in contact with. The abandoned group includes AMCITS, green card holders, legal permanent residents, embassy workers, US contractors and their families. Many are SIVs & the vast majority were registered with the US state department last week or earlier.
We have documentation that proves all this.
I talked to Mark afterwards. I am trying to link all these special ops teams together to share intel and resources. If you know any contacts to the other groups, please tell them to contact me so I can link them up: emilymillerdc@prontomail.com

It’s still August 31 in DC. The last American flight out from Kabul airport was yesterday at 3:29pm ET. Why did Biden evacuate 30 hours before the deadline deal with the Taliban? Then today the president said he knows he left people behind and claims the Taliban will just let them leave. Here’s what Biden said:

And for those remaining Americans, there is no deadline. We remain committed to get them out if they want to come out.
Secretary of State Blinken is leading the continued diplomatic efforts to ensure a safe passage for any American, Afghan partner, or foreign national who wants to leave Afghanistan…..
It will include ongoing efforts in Afghanistan to reopen the airport, as well as overland routes, allowing for continued departure to those who want to leave and delivery of humanitarian assistance to the people of Afghanistan.
All day, I talk to people trapped in Afghanistan who have the paperwork to get to America. They are not leaving their homes for fear of the Taliban which knows where these people live. It’s a life or death situation and time is running out now. Think how many people could have been rescued if the airport had stayed open 30 more hours — but without the Taliban guarding it and terrorizing people.

And in case you didn’t get the email, Joe connected me with one of the Afghans who he’s been working on getting rescued. I talked to Asas on the phone and wrote his story below:

Emily Posts
The Loyal Afghan Who America Abandoned
This post is free to raise awareness of the situation. Please share this post as widely as possible to help. Asas worked on an American military base in Afghanistan for 17 years. He rose to a prominent position. He speaks perfect English. He has the paperwork to come to America, but he was stranded in Afghanistan. He’s gone into hiding from the Taliban…
 

Rebel_Yell

Senior Member
It's long but worth the read.


Exclusive: In secret texts, U.S. military officials lamented leaving Americans behind in Kabul

President Biden declared to a puzzled country on Tuesday that the U.S. evacuation from Afghanistan was an "extraordinary success," while his Pentagon portrayed a prosaic, workaday process to repatriate Americans still stranded in the war-torn country.

But text messages between U.S. military commanders and private citizens mounting last-minute rescues tell a far different story, one in which pleading American citizens were frantically left behind at the Kabul airport gate this past weekend to face an uncertain fate under Taliban rule while U.S. officials sought to spread the blame between high-ranking generals and the State Department

"We are f*cking abandoning American citizens," an Army colonel assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division wrote Sunday in frustration in a series of encrypted messages that detailed the failed effort to extricate a group of American citizens, hours before the last U.S. soldiers departed Afghanistan.

The text messages and emails were provided to Just the News by Michael Yon, a former Special Forces soldier and war correspondent who was among the private citizens working with private networks and the military to rescue stranded Americans.

Yon told Just the News that a group of Americans were abandoned at the Kabul airport, pleading for help as military officials told them they were finished with evacuations.

"We had them out there waving their passport screaming, 'I'm American,'" Yon said Tuesday while appearing on the John Solomon Reports podcast.

The heart-wrenching scenes unfolded this weekend as the U.S. military prepared to exit the capital city on Monday, leaving both the airport and most of the country under Taliban control.

"People were turned away from the gate by our own Army," Yon said.

After the episode ended and the Americans scattered to safe houses to avoid being captured, Yon wrote a stinging email to an Army major whose team had tried to coordinate the rescue before abandoning it.

"You guys left American citizens at the gate of the Kabul airport," Yon wrote Tuesday to the commander. "Three empty jets paid for by volunteers were waiting for them. You and I talked on the phone. I told you where they were. Gave you their passport images. And my email and phone number. And you left them behind."

He added: "Great job saving yourselves. Probably get a lot of medals."

Yon's account, backed by three dozen text and email exchanges with frontline Army officials in Afghanistan, stands in sharp contrast to the claims of the Biden White House that U.S. citizens would not be left behind in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

"I think it's irresponsible to say Americans are stranded," Whte House press secretary Jen Pskai said in an Aug. 23 press briefing. "They are not. We are committed to bringing Americans who want to come home, home." President Joe Biden earlier this month underscored that position, saying that the United States would evacuate every American who wanted to leave the country.

With the American military no longer in Kabul, the Pentagon's chief spokesman, John Kirby, acknowledged Tuesday that Americans in fact were left behind. He described a calm, diplomatic scenario for bringing those people home.

“Right now I think the tools we have available to us and that we're going to use as a U.S. government is going to be more in the diplomatic, economic lanes, and we don't really see a military role right now," Kirby told MSNBC when asked if the U.S. military would rescue the stranded Americans.

Pentagon officials declined to immediately comment on the text messages Yon provided.

But Kirby on Tuesday couched the repatriation efforts as similar to how the U.S. would help, for example, a citizen who inadvertently crossed the wrong border.

"It's not completely unlike the way we do it elsewhere around the world," Kirby said. "We have Americans that get stranded in countries all the time, and we do everything we can to try to facilitate safe passage."

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) the top Republican on the Senate permanent subcommittee on investigations, first raised concerns in a letter Monday to the Pentagon that Americans had been knowingly and willingly abandoned. Reached late Tuesday, Johnson told Just the News the text messages confirmed his worst fears and raised questions about whether the Biden administration has been misleading the public.

"I'm not sure what planet President Biden and members of his administration are on, but here on planet Earth, his withdrawal from Afghanistan is an abysmal failure," the senator said. "What we've been hearing from people working the evacuation is completely different from the administration's rosy spin.

"These texts confirm my worst suspicions and should serve as further justification to dramatically increase the vetting process before granting refugees legal status and rights."

Those involved in the rescue efforts described a volatile, frightening effort to get Americans into the airport and aboard planes.

"I personally know and was involved in an operation two nights ago," Yon told Just the News. In that mission, Yon and a tight cadre tried to shepherd four American citizens — a woman and three children — onto an evacuation flight. First, the group had to get past Taliban checkpoints and through the gate to the airport.

"We had Taliban take them to the south gate," Yon said. "That's how they got through the checkpoint."

Once at the gate, the family stood waving passports, screaming that they are Americans. But, Yon said, American forces would not come out to get them.

There commenced a series of messages and phone calls from the helper group trying to reach someone who would open the gate for the family.

The helpers made contact with an Army colonel who had knowledge of the evacuation process. In a text exchange viewed by Just the News, the colonel messaged Yon and others that people were being turned away from the airport.

Using short hand for American citizens, Yon wrote: "Any AMCITS?"

"Yes. All of them," the colonel responded. In a follow on text, he wrote: "Yes, we are f*cking abandoning American citizens."

While the helper group worked frantically to get the Americans through the gate, members texted one another to say they had seen National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on CNN saying that neither he nor U.S. Central Command chief Gen. Kenneth McKenzie were told that Americans were abandoned.

"Hey did they end up just taking off?" one correspondent texted the helper group. "Because the National Security Advisor just told Tapper that neither he nor McKenzie had heard anything about Americans being left at the gates."

The correspondent noted that the private group heard differently from a lieutenant colonel (O-5): "Given we had comms with an O-5 on the ground, that means CENTCOM C3 is s--t, or someone is lying."

Text messages viewed by Just the News showed the helper group describing their efforts — and failures.

One man wrote how he spoke to the American mother, and sent photos of her family's passports to Americans inside the airport.

"The Americans recognize it's her and agree but I've been told General Milley won't let them in," the man texted.

The helper group strategized on whether they should send money, how much, and to whom. Ultimately, the family did not get into the airport.

"We get them to the gate, and the U.S. Army completely fails this saying, 'Oh, we can't do it, because the Department of the State tells us we can't do it," Yon told Just the News.

Others have reported similar situations at the airport.

"I have messages from Americans outside Kabul's gates who are now stranded in Afghanistan," Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.) tweeted on Tuesday. "It's reprehensible that Pres. Biden's left behind Americans along with Afghans who fought along side us, but has no problem leaving our Southern Border wide open to anyone who wants to come."

Waltz, a combat veteran and a former Green Beret who served in Afghanistan, has noted that private citizens have rallied to save people the Biden Administration left behind.

Democrats have offered similar concerns about the Biden administration's efforts, including Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly, a former Navy captain and NASA astronaut.

“Leaving any American citizen behind is unacceptable, and I will keep pushing this administration to do everything in its power to get our people out," he declared Tuesday.

The private citizens have met with successes and lost opportunities — such as the effort to rescue the American mother and her young children.

"The Taliban would have let them in," Yon said. But no one on the Americans side opened the gate.

"This is the kind of insanity that we're down to," he said.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
We get them to the gate, and the U.S. Army completely fails this saying, 'Oh, we can't do it, because the Department of the State tells us we can't do it," Yon told Just the News.
I can't figure out why the military at the airport went along with this. Turning away American citizens, how did those men look those women and children in the eye and force them back to a tortuous death? We know that is what will happen to them. Or sex slaves if they are lucky.

I know they have to follow orders or be court martialed, but that airport was in chaos. They could have easily let Americans through and onto their plane without anyone back in DC knowing. The Feds don't even know for sure how many people are stranded over there, they would not have known that those people were allowed to escape.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I can't figure out why the military at the airport went along with this. Turning away American citizens, how did those men look those women and children in the eye and force them back to a tortuous death? We know that is what will happen to them. Or sex slaves if they are lucky.

I know they have to follow orders or be court martialed, but that airport was in chaos. They could have easily let Americans through and onto their plane without anyone back in DC knowing. The Feds don't even know for sure how many people are stranded over there, they would not have known that those people were allowed to escape.

That is what has been playing on a continuous loop in my mind and has been for days. If military are that craven that they can follow an order that they are sure will result in leaving women children dogs and cats to a horrible fate, they are not fit to wear the uniform.

Melodi posted one over on the Kabul Animal Shelter thread about soldiers going in the bathroom to throw up after being given that order. Whatever happened to ignoring that unlawful order from a rogue gov't and getting those people and animals on a bird already chartered and paid for?

Oh hel no- they shoved Charlotte Maxwell-Jones back through the gate and the tallyban escorted her back to her animal shelter clutching a crippled puppy in her arms she refused to abandon. The rest of those dogs were let loose in the back of the airport to fend for themselves. The Vet staff of KSAR, most of whom are female and Afghani, are in peril.

I served and I was Honorably discharged. I am a 100% service connected Veteran of Desert Storm I. I am finding it very hard at this juncture to call the soldiers in this article my brothers and sisters. The word that keeps floating to the top is CRAVEN. Oh and Evil works, too. I don't throw that one around like confetti, either.
 
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Krayola

Veteran Member
That is what has been playing on a continuous loop in my mind and has been for days. If military are that craven that they can follow an order that they are sure will result in leaving women children dogs and cats to a horrible fate, they are not fit to wear the uniform.

I served and I was Honorably discharged. I am a 100% service connected Veteran of Desert Storm I. I am finding it very hard at this juncture to call the soldiers in this article my brothers and sisters. The word that keeps floating to the top is CRAVEN. Oh and Evil works, too. I don't throw that one around like confetti, either.
It also doesn't bode well for what will happen if they are ever asked to "turn" on the American population here at home.
 
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