EBOLA It’s Not About Ebola Anymore, its about the impact it will have....

MC2006

Veteran Member
It’s not about Ebola anymore it’s about the fallout, the impact, if you will that it is having on communities and on the country as a whole.

A nurse that has had contact with Ebola patients in West Africa is threatening to sue the government because she was quarantined as she arrived back in the United States. This is inhumane treatment according to her and her lawyer, and yet the alternative is to allow her to decide on her own whether she is a risk or not. Unfortunately, the medical profession has not shown when it comes to Ebola that they really know what is going on, they simply do not instill confidence in the American citizens.

Doctors and nurses knowing they have been exposed to Ebola seem to find it acceptable to roam the streets or fly the skies until they become symptomatic, so what happens if they get a fever while riding the subway or on an aircraft.

Yes, they are self-monitoring while riding the subway or wherever they are, but what does this mean for the people in the subway with him or her as the case may be, people will be alarmed and rightly so. The doctor knows others around them will not likely contract the disease but the common person does not know this for sure, because of all of the mixed messages out there.

Aside from all this is the cost of contact tracing and quarantining of people. The cost could be eliminated if people that know they have been in contact with Ebola patients in West Africa would simply do the right thing and self-quarantine for the 21 days.

Self-monitoring means different things to different people, so obviously there needs to be a standard, because one could say they were monitoring themselves while out bowling, for example.

Doctors and nurses have to realize that most of the people they meet in public do not have the training and knowledge of a medical professional, so they have to respect that people have a real fear of this relatively unknown disease.

It is not enough to say, “Hey I’m a doctor or nurse and I know what is best”, that simply does not wash, because doctors and nurses are the ones becoming infected. How doctors and nurses are acting does not instill any confidence in those not in the medical profession.

Then there are governors enacting rules and laws that are counter to the federal government, laws that make sense by the way, and then survivors of the only person to die on America soil from Ebola are claiming his care was sub-standard and so lawyers are already in the wings calculating damages. This is just a small sample of the impact Ebola is having on the country. You will not get Ebola but you will be effected by it.

The fear is visceral, and people will react to this fear. There is no one applying logic and reasoning, and now the CDC has once again changed the rules, which makes it even more confusing, stoking even more fears. It seems those in charge are working it out as they go along, reacting only as things happen and not getting ahead of any of it.

Bottom-line, you as a Prepper are once again forced to work things out on your own, you must apply logic and reasoning and more importantly know the facts before making decisions.

Stay Calm and Prep On

1.) Do not worry about contracting Ebola but you do need to worry about schools in your community shutting down. You have to be prepared for this, because it has happened and it will happen again, next time in your community possibly. You will need a backup plan if the school calls and tells you that the school is closed for 21 days or even for just a week for decontamination.


2.) Worry about public transportation, and try to find alternatives, it will be difficult in some cases, but you really do have to limit your exposure to large crowds, where you are packed in like sardines. You should avoid crowds for a variety of reasons not just because of Ebola however.


3.) Worry about home confinement (quarantine), because as you can see, it can happen to anyone, so you have to be prepared to sustain yourself for at least 21 days, and the time in confinement may increase, so keep this in mind as well, and be prepared to increase your stockpile. This means you have to have plans in place to resupply while in confinement, a trusted friend or relative could leave supplies at your door, but you need plans in place before something happens.


4.) You have to consider what happens if you are away from home and it is suspected you have had some type of contact with someone suspected of having Ebola. This means you may be quarantined away from home. Do you have the means to do so?

It is assumed the authorities would handle the logistics, lodging, food and so on, but you cannot really count on anything. Think about what if, who you can call to take care of your animals and plants if you happen to live alone? There are the things you need to think about and plan for now.


5.) What happens if your boss calls and says do not bother coming into work for the next three weeks, because the plant or office has to shut down because of suspected contamination. Keep in mind businesses will err on the side of caution and some will overact by shutting down for some period.


It Is No Longer Theoretical. It Is Possible and Even Likely


Someone looks ill or is ill on a subway, commuter train, airplane or bus. The pilot, driver or operator calls ahead, the sick individual is pulled off by people in full body suits. Your name is taken and address given and then all contacts in your phone are taken down by someone talking through a respirator.

Everyone is herded off the public transportation, and separated. Test will be run but until the authorities know why the person became ill you are in a holding pattern, and if the tests come back positive, you are quarantined, and you could be hundreds of miles from home. You will not get sick but you are caught up in it regardless.

If you live in a large city and rely on public transportation, you will be inconvenienced at some point soon because of the fear of Ebola. You have to be prepared for this, because it will happen to some of you, if it has not already.

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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
Articles like this help us think through what our local situation may be like. This morning I was thinking about my years helping with the local soup kitchen. Some of our clients were mentally disabled. They were usually pretty sensible folks but if many changes come on them abruptly, they may not be able to cope. Our leaders have not begun to think of the downstream consquences of their decisions.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
They need to pack that nurse up, and ship her tail back to West Africa.

She is worthless, and probably is immune to the virus, but has the ability
to infect other people.

We are so screwed.

Regards to all,
Nowski
 

BrendanGM

Inactive
Probably the single greatest misdirection came when the
media choose to not "over-analyze" what the phrase
"body fluids" actually meant.

Since the southern border to the U.S. is not CLOSED,
at this point in time, and the Republicans have not
called for impeachment on this issue.

I can only think that both parties, and the individual
politicians therein, are playing politics with the
entire population of the United States.

So if the Republicans, or a single Republican
doesn't call for immediate impeachment of
Obama, within 1 week after the November
elections, I'm done with all of them, Rand
included.

Rand: If you can't be a statesman on this issue,
you're a nobody in my book.
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
When everybody(really anything over about 5% of population) decides to get "a couple of weeks" of groceries,
the JIT system will crash.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
When everybody(really anything over about 5% of population) decides to get "a couple of weeks" of groceries,
the JIT system will crash.

I have wondered how slim the profit margins from retail really are. Last Spring, Walmart offered lower than expected guidance because a temporary increase in EBT cards expired. Since JIT requires a stable cash flow, it would not take much to stress out the system.
 

moldy

Veteran Member
When this started, I told my (freaked - out) kids that there are 3 problems with Ebola:

1) Ebola the disease: Probably fairly hard to catch, and should be rare.
2) The panic that it will generate.
3) The government's response to that panic.

Nice to know that occasionally I'm somewhat right.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
People need to look at Ebola in the context of a regional African system collapse from an epidemic. The global pandemic issue is separate from what happens in Africa.

I have said several times we are dealing with several individual issues when we are talking about Ebola. We are obviously dealing with medical issues related to dealing with the disease. We are also dealing political, economic, cultural and military issues caused from dealing with Ebola.

The Black Death of 1348 to 1352 caused profound social, religious, economic and political changes. Ebola is going to change Africa for decades into the future. It will also change the USA, even if we don't get an epidemic. If we do, the changes will be on the level of Pearl Harbor and 9-11 in terms of before and after daily life.

I really think Ebola is going to be hard to catch in the USA due to our housing, public sanitation and medical systems. We are not living in a shack, with no fresh water, no toilet, no medical care, and no food.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
When this started, I told my (freaked - out) kids that there are 3 problems with Ebola:

1) Ebola the disease: Probably fairly hard to catch, and should be rare.
2) The panic that it will generate.
3) The government's response to that panic.

Nice to know that occasionally I'm somewhat right.


One thing I don't think a lot of people did or will consider is what if this is being done on purpose? It wouldn't really be that hard to catch when it is being put in your path at every turn.
Leave the Southern Border porous.
Don't impose quarantines on people that had contact.
Bring people from ebola stricken countries that have caught ebola here to the continental US.
Give inconsistent CDC guidelines so they are so confusing a disproportionate number of HCW refuse to treat the ebola patients or even leave the field.
Obfuscate or hide the actual numbers.
Allow travel from the African countries that have ebola outbreaks instead of closing them off as many other countries have done.
Appoint a totally unqualified person as ebola czar
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
They need to pack that nurse up, and ship her tail back to West Africa.

She is worthless, and probably is immune to the virus, but has the ability
to infect other people.

We are so screwed.

Regards to all,
Nowski

TELL IT SKI!!!!
good old fashion greed will kill what little is left of 'murKKa yet
 

Annika

Senior Member
People need to look at Ebola in the context of a regional African system collapse from an epidemic. The global pandemic issue is separate from what happens in Africa.

I have said several times we are dealing with several individual issues when we are talking about Ebola. We are obviously dealing with medical issues related to dealing with the disease. We are also dealing political, economic, cultural and military issues caused from dealing with Ebola.

The Black Death of 1348 to 1352 caused profound social, religious, economic and political changes. Ebola is going to change Africa for decades into the future. It will also change the USA, even if we don't get an epidemic. If we do, the changes will be on the level of Pearl Harbor and 9-11 in terms of before and after daily life.

I really think Ebola is going to be hard to catch in the USA due to our housing, public sanitation and medical systems. We are not living in a shack, with no fresh water, no toilet, no medical care, and no food.

Hope you are right DD on that last paragraph. I am observing a pharmacy in central Imdiana where there could possibly be a pop up of Ebola due to the influx of West Africans since the 1st of the year.
 
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