Again, that’s FARMING, not a cattle ranch. At that point the cattle aren't the main reason for the FARM.Okay, but as others have already said, even ranchers often raise crops, even if it's only hay. Some of them also raise grains or other crops. Many of the cattle ranchers in the part of Eastern Oregon where we used to live raise alfalfa and grass hay, oats or wheat, potatoes, onions, and sometimes strawberry plants.
Monetary devaluation.I feel the same way about a tooth. How in the world did my tooth extraction and implant get quoted $4,500 WITH dental insurance? For ONE tooth??? That was the average total cost of a hospital stay to give birth when I was a teen. I remember seeing the bill when my mom had my sister.
Cuz I have so much farming background growing up in a city and doing software for a career.Dennis, how much farming or ranching have you done? How much time have you spent on either? There isn't as much difference between them as you seem to think!
boss - people with 20-25 cows on a 200 acre FARM with hay to cut and bale and silage to cut and store NEED the equipment to do that. there is a difference between that and a "modest piece of land" and the old case AIN'T gonna make it. that's all these folks are saying.our modest piece of land
I honestly don't think anybody disagrees with that - the difficulty SEEMS to be over the deffinitions of "modest piece of property - homestead - FARM and RANCH" . . . in particular - the latter two.Agreed. But as I’ve repeatedly said (which has been completely ignored) a modest cattle operation can get by with much less expensive gear.
Not really.Agreed. But as I’ve repeatedly said (which has been completely ignored) a modest cattle operation can get by with much less expensive gear.
That's not what the ranchers I deal with would say.raising cattle is ranching, not farming.
I was going to say... I think his exposure to ranching was shows like Rawhide! Which conveniently 8gnored how thecattle were fed up to 6 months of the year. *someone* has to grow, harvest and store the hay. Control 9ver feed quality is difficult if you don't produce it yourself.That's not what the ranchers I deal with would say.
Replant a hay pasture?
Discs, seeders and other farmer kind of stuff.
Some plant corn for feed or have to seed pastures in clover for rotation, etc.
Up towards Kansas, they do a rotation of winter wheat, put cows on it for awhile, then move them to planted hay pastures while the wheat finishes, then maybe run beans, etc.
You really haven't been exposed to what it takes to run a small ag operation...at least not in this century.