WAR Israel to Attack Iran if Sanctions Not In Place By Christmas

A little reminder:

Sneh: Israel to Attack Iran if Sanctions Not In Place By Christmas

Posted by John Romano in News and Analysis on October 10, 2009

http://yesbuthowever.com/paper-israel-to-attack-iran-if-sanctions-not-in-place-by-christmas-8136148/

NEW YORK (YBH.ME) – Former Israeli Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh stated in an interview with the UK’s Sunday Times that if sanctions against Iran are not in place by Christmas, Israel may attack Iran on its own. “If no crippling sanctions are introduced by Christmas, Israel will strike,” he said. “If we are left alone, we will act alone.”

Ephraim Sneh rattles sabre at Iran

Iran’s ambassador to the UN, Mohammad Khazaee, rebuked Mr. Sneh’s comments today in a letter to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moonin and said that “there is no explanation for Israel’s continuing threats against Tehran.” Mr. Khazaee also stated that “the only threat in the region is Israel’s nuclear arsenal, which remains unsupervised to this day.”

Many nations of the west and Israel have taken a harsh line on Iran’s nuclear ambitions, peaceful or otherwise.

Recently, Cleric Mojtaba Zolnour, a senior leader of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, claimed that Iran will “blow up the heart of Israel” if attacked by either Israel or the United States.

Likewise John Bolton had warned earlier this year that Israel would act before year-end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZMno_lOTEk

Odds are that Israel will wait to see the outcome of U.N. Security Council efforts to bring biting sanctions against Iran, although these efforts are now stalled until late next month:

MIDDLE EAST NEWS
DECEMBER 23, 2009

Diplomats Will Extend Iran Talks

Representatives from Russia, China, Britain, France, the U.S. and Germany adjourned their telephone consultation about Iran's nuclear program Tuesday without giving guidance on when they will ask the United Nations Security Council to consider measures to increase pressure on Iran.

They will continue the discussion in the second half of January, a diplomat familiar with Tuesday's talks said. The diplomat said the members will allow Iran until year end to begin cooperation on resolving questions about whether it is creating the technical means to build a nuclear weapon.

But Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad dismissed a year-end deadline for Tehran to accept a U.N.-drafted deal to swap enriched uranium for nuclear fuel.

U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice said it was premature to discuss possible new sanctions, but the U.S., Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany were mulling a "range of alternatives."

Separately, the Web site of Iranian state-run TV said Tuesday that Mr. Ahmadinejad had appointed a new chief of the Art Academy, removing opposition leader Mir Hossein Mousavi from the post.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126153305601902331.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth

If Israel strikes Iran, I believe World War Three will ensue and America will be facing a full-scale Russian nuclear attack:


http://www.spiritoftruth.org/truth.htm

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraniannuclearbomb.htm

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/russias-secret-war-plans.html
 
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Mr. Dot

Inactive
Maybe, but sure seems like we have quite a few of these year-end deadlines under our belt already.
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
I'm not convinced. Israel didn't telegraph their intentions before they took out Saddam's reactor at Osirak, nor did they give advance warning to Syria.
I'm going by past experience-Israel does NOT let their enemies in on their military schedule.
 

Lone Wolf

Lives on TB
I have a bad feeling about this one.

Israel: "Never Again"


Amabinashidhed : Whack job, With an "almost" nuclear Bomb.

Mix together and shake well.

You can run, but you can't hide!

lw
 

ceeblue

Veteran Member
Today's Washington Examiner has an article on the sanctions.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-message-to-Obama-Act-now_12_22-79862772.html

On Iran, a bipartisan message to Obama: Act now
By: BYRON YORK
Chief Political Correspondent
December 22, 2009

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, waves following his address to the 64th session of the United Nations General Assembly. (AP)
Is there anything that could bring our deeply divided Congress together in an act of overwhelming bipartisanship? Is there any issue that could unite more than 400 members of the House of Representatives, Democrats and Republicans, in common cause? Is it even possible to have broad bipartisan agreement on a major problem facing the country today?

The answer is yes. You might not have noticed — it didn’t get much coverage — but on Dec. 15 the House voted, by the unheard-of margin of 412 to 12, to pass a bill called the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act. With one loud, united voice, lawmakers told President Obama to stop messing around and impose real sanctions in response to the Iranian nuclear weapons program.

The bill targets a major Iranian vulnerability. Even though it has vast stores of oil — it’s the world’s fourth-largest producer — Iran has little capacity to refine that oil into gasoline, diesel fuel, and other usable products. So an oil-rich nation has to import gas. If it can’t get the gas, it can’t keep its economy going. The legislation would crack down on the companies that provide the fuel that keeps the Iranian theocracy in business.

The act’s prologue is an extended rebuke of the Obama administration’s Iran policy. Iran’s nuclear program is “a serious threat to the security of the United States,” the prologue says, and many U.S. allies, including Britain, France and Germany, have already advocated tougher sanctions against Iran.

In October 2008, the prologue continues, then-senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama said petroleum sanctions might force Iran to change its ways. “If we can prevent them from importing the gasoline that they need and the refined petroleum products, that starts changing their cost-benefit analysis,” Obama said. “That starts putting the squeeze on them.”

The prologue goes on to cite the “serious and urgent nature” of the Iranian threat, as well as the “brutal repression and murder, arbitrary arrests, and show trials of peaceful dissidents” in Iran. It declares that Iran has not only ignored but has been “contemptuous of” Obama’s efforts to reach out to Tehran. Iran “is not interested in a diplomatic resolution,” the act concludes. Therefore, it is time for action.

The legislation would require Obama to impose sanctions on companies that sell refined petroleum to Iran or help Iran acquire refined petroleum, either by shipping it in or by increasing Iran’s capacity to refine oil. The proposed sanctions extend to companies that provide ships for getting the refined products to Iran and even companies that insure those ships.

The sanctions include basically barring those firms from doing business in the United States — prohibiting them from taking part in any financial transactions in the United States, freezing their U.S. assets, and forbidding them from dealing in U.S. dollars. Those are real and serious penalties, and they would be felt if actually imposed on the companies that keep the Iranian machine running.

After decisive passage in the House, the act is now in the Senate, where it also has far-reaching bipartisan support. The problem is, the Democratic leadership has been more interested in passing a national health care bill by Christmas Eve than in dealing firmly with the Iranian nuclear threat.

But it will ultimately pass the Senate, and then head to Obama’s desk. Will the president who has invested so much of his personal prestige in the idea of engagement — the man who, as a candidate, pledged to meet Mahmoud Ahmedinejad without preconditions — actually take action?

“This is a test for the Obama administration,” says an advocate of sanctions. “It’s clear Iran is not cooperating. Will the administration lead on this and move forward to the United Nations, with the Europeans and then with the coalition of the like-minded? It will be a moment of truth, the time by which his foreign policy will be defined.”

Support for action is as bipartisan as bipartisan can be. In the House, the act was passed with the votes of 241 Democrats and 171 Republicans.

Republicans Mike Pence and Eric Cantor support it, and Democrats Henry Waxman and Barney Frank support it. The 12 lawmakers who voted against it were mostly fringe figures, including Reps. John Conyers, Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul.

The mainstream message is as clear as Congress can make it: It’s time for Obama to do something.

Byron York, The Examiner’s chief political correspondent, can be contacted at byork@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears on Tuesday and Friday, and his stories and blog posts appear on ExaminerPolitics.com.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Put yourself in Israel's shoes, WWYD? Really, what would you do? Iran has made no secret of their intentions, they will go after Israel and anihilate them by any means possible and are working feverishly to do so as I type.

The only question is when, not if, one or the other pushes the magic button. For best results, timing is usually when the enemy is least prepared. What purpose would alerting them to your intentions and timing be?

It's coming.
 

bobpick

Inactive
Today's Washington Examiner has an article on the sanctions.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-message-to-Obama-Act-now_12_22-79862772.html
The answer is yes. You might not have noticed — it didn’t get much coverage — but on Dec. 15 the House voted, by the unheard-of margin of 412 to 12, to pass a bill called the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act. With one loud, united voice, lawmakers told President Obama to stop messing around and impose real sanctions in response to the Iranian nuclear weapons program.

Those 12 need to be removed from office.
 

Lone Wolf

Lives on TB
Today's Washington Examiner has an article on the sanctions.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-message-to-Obama-Act-now_12_22-79862772.html

On Iran, a bipartisan message to Obama: Act now
By: BYRON YORK
Chief Political Correspondent
December 22, 2009

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, president of Iran, waves following his address to the 64th session of the United Nations General Assembly. (AP)
Is there anything that could bring our deeply divided Congress together in an act of overwhelming bipartisanship? Is there any issue that could unite more than 400 members of the House of Representatives, Democrats and Republicans, in common cause? Is it even possible to have broad bipartisan agreement on a major problem facing the country today?

The answer is yes. You might not have noticed — it didn’t get much coverage — but on Dec. 15 the House voted, by the unheard-of margin of 412 to 12, to pass a bill called the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act. With one loud, united voice, lawmakers told President Obama to stop messing around and impose real sanctions in response to the Iranian nuclear weapons program.

The bill targets a major Iranian vulnerability. Even though it has vast stores of oil — it’s the world’s fourth-largest producer — Iran has little capacity to refine that oil into gasoline, diesel fuel, and other usable products. So an oil-rich nation has to import gas. If it can’t get the gas, it can’t keep its economy going. The legislation would crack down on the companies that provide the fuel that keeps the Iranian theocracy in business.

The act’s prologue is an extended rebuke of the Obama administration’s Iran policy. Iran’s nuclear program is “a serious threat to the security of the United States,” the prologue says, and many U.S. allies, including Britain, France and Germany, have already advocated tougher sanctions against Iran.

In October 2008, the prologue continues, then-senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama said petroleum sanctions might force Iran to change its ways. “If we can prevent them from importing the gasoline that they need and the refined petroleum products, that starts changing their cost-benefit analysis,” Obama said. “That starts putting the squeeze on them.”

The prologue goes on to cite the “serious and urgent nature” of the Iranian threat, as well as the “brutal repression and murder, arbitrary arrests, and show trials of peaceful dissidents” in Iran. It declares that Iran has not only ignored but has been “contemptuous of” Obama’s efforts to reach out to Tehran. Iran “is not interested in a diplomatic resolution,” the act concludes. Therefore, it is time for action.

The legislation would require Obama to impose sanctions on companies that sell refined petroleum to Iran or help Iran acquire refined petroleum, either by shipping it in or by increasing Iran’s capacity to refine oil. The proposed sanctions extend to companies that provide ships for getting the refined products to Iran and even companies that insure those ships.

The sanctions include basically barring those firms from doing business in the United States — prohibiting them from taking part in any financial transactions in the United States, freezing their U.S. assets, and forbidding them from dealing in U.S. dollars. Those are real and serious penalties, and they would be felt if actually imposed on the companies that keep the Iranian machine running.

After decisive passage in the House, the act is now in the Senate, where it also has far-reaching bipartisan support. The problem is, the Democratic leadership has been more interested in passing a national health care bill by Christmas Eve than in dealing firmly with the Iranian nuclear threat.

But it will ultimately pass the Senate, and then head to Obama’s desk. Will the president who has invested so much of his personal prestige in the idea of engagement — the man who, as a candidate, pledged to meet Mahmoud Ahmedinejad without preconditions — actually take action?

“This is a test for the Obama administration,” says an advocate of sanctions. “It’s clear Iran is not cooperating. Will the administration lead on this and move forward to the United Nations, with the Europeans and then with the coalition of the like-minded? It will be a moment of truth, the time by which his foreign policy will be defined.”

Support for action is as bipartisan as bipartisan can be. In the House, the act was passed with the votes of 241 Democrats and 171 Republicans.

Republicans Mike Pence and Eric Cantor support it, and Democrats Henry Waxman and Barney Frank support it. The 12 lawmakers who voted against it were mostly fringe figures, including Reps. John Conyers, Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul.

The mainstream message is as clear as Congress can make it: It’s time for Obama to do something.

Byron York, The Examiner’s chief political correspondent, can be contacted at byork@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears on Tuesday and Friday, and his stories and blog posts appear on ExaminerPolitics.com.


Ron Paul?

I wonder what other little tidbit was attached to that bit of legilation?

Paul had something on his mind.

lw
 

buff

Deceased
I'm not convinced. Israel didn't telegraph their intentions before they took out Saddam's reactor at Osirak, nor did they give advance warning to Syria.
I'm going by past experience-Israel does NOT let their enemies in on their military schedule.

unlike our current commander of chiefs who lets our enemy know exactly when we are leaving..

Wave goodbye to Ron Paul, then.

gladly..
 

LONEWOLF

Deceased
You might try and read Rep. Ron Paul's objection to the "House opinion". It was not a Bill, it was not a formal Declaration of War. It was another one of those faint-hearted, fuzzy things that Congress likes to do in place of their Constitutional duty. That was *his* main objection IIR....
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Too soon!

The US will take the lead in pre-emptive attack, (though maybe less then overtly). China and Russia will assist albeit covertly. Obama must get out in front or else he is 1 up and out. Most likely when it is time the Generals will send Rahm to go play with himself and set Hussein down and help him to know his role.

China and Russia will be allowed to profit on the rebuild.

Maybe late Spring or early Summer
 

bobpick

Inactive
CSIS has a new report out as of last week....

Iran as a Nuclear Weapons Power
http://csis.org/publication/iran-nuclear-weapons-power

From that report:

"During the Cold War, a U.S. movie called War Games (1983) raised a point that Iran and
other potential proliferators need to carefully consider, as do all who consider military
options centered around such risks.xlvii The movie highlighted the fact that any U.S.-
Soviet nuclear exchange had to be so costly to both sides that there was no way either
side could gain an advantage. Iran might well wish to consider a line of dialog from the
movie: ―strange games…the only way to win is not to play.‖"
 

DrexHex

Inactive
From that report:

"During the Cold War, a U.S. movie called War Games (1983) raised a point that Iran and
other potential proliferators need to carefully consider, as do all who consider military
options centered around such risks.xlvii The movie highlighted the fact that any U.S.-
Soviet nuclear exchange had to be so costly to both sides that there was no way either
side could gain an advantage. Iran might well wish to consider a line of dialog from the
movie: ―strange games…the only way to win is not to play.‖"

:lkick: What a great movie... a true hacker flick! List of computer games: Tic-Tac-Toe, Checkers, Global Thermonuclear War
 

IDK

Inactive
Israel is all talk about attacking Iran they been saying it for years they say the same thing over and over and over

They need to either DO IT or STFU its getting old fast.
 
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RobinYyes

Deceased
I'm not convinced. Israel didn't telegraph their intentions before they took out Saddam's reactor at Osirak, nor did they give advance warning to Syria.
I'm going by past experience-Israel does NOT let their enemies in on their military schedule.

....and in addition to all else, Israel knows that bobo is no friend of Israel. There will be no warning.
 
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