WoT ISIS offered to swap Foley for 'Lady AQ'; caught with plans for EBOLA dirty bomb in 2008

Heliobas Disciple

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mb-ebola-chemical-weapon-spared-children.html
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ISIS offered to swap Foley for 'Lady al Qaeda': Terrorists wanted return of MIT-educated neuroscientist who was caught with plans for 'mass casualty attack' with a dirty bomb, Ebola, and a chemical weapon 'that spared children'

- ISIS sent 'laundry list' of demands for release of James Foley
- Before ransom rose to $132m, ISIS wanted release of Afia Siddiqui among other prisoners
- Mother-of-three was jailed after she was caught with plans for 'mass casualty attack' and details of New York landmarks
- Author describes her as a 'poster girl for jihadists' and her release would have been PR disaster for Obama
- In her handbag was found details for a dirty bomb, Ebola, and a theoretical chemical weapon that did not kill children, her New York trial was told
- Government refused to enter into negotiation with his captors and launched failed rescue attempt instead - in contrast to the Bowe Bergdahl swap


By Martin Gould For Mailonline In Rochester, New Hampshire
Published: 15:33 EST, 21 August 2014 | Updated: 17:53 EST, 21 August 2014

An MIT-educated neuroscientist terrorist known as 'Lady al Qaeda' was named on a 'laundry list' of demands from ISIS captors holding James Foley named, it was revealed today.

Petite mother-of-three Aafia Siddiqui is currently serving 86 years in a Texas jail after being arrested with plans for a 'mass casualty attack' in the US, including infecting people with Ebola and a dirty bomb.

But President Barack Obama's administration point blank refused to consider releasing Siddiqui, or handing over a $132 million ransom, according to the New York Times.

Karachi-born Siddiqui, 42, attended two New England universities. She gained a PhD from Brandeis and then trained as a neuroscientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

She founded the Institute of Islamic Research and Teaching while living in the U.S.

Mother-of-three Siddiqui, who is 5 ft. 4 in. and weighs just 90 lb, was on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist list after 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed mentioned her name during his 2003 interrogation.

Siddiqui, who is divorced from her first husband is now married to Ammar al-Baluchi, one of the 9/11 masterminds, who is currently being held in Guantanamo. He is the nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Burqa-clad Siddiqui was arrested in Ghanzi, Afghanistan in 2008 after a local saw her poring over a map. He became suspicious as most women in that country are illiterate.

When she was held she had detailed plans on how to kill by spreading Ebola, making a dirty bomb and even a theoretical chemical weapon that somehow spared children while killing adults.

She also had two pounds of highly toxic sodium cyanide hidden in her bag and documents detailing potential New York targets for attack including Wall Street, the Empire State Building, the Brooklyn Bridge, the Statue of Liberty and the subway system.

The documents also showed the Plum Island Animal Disease Center on Long Island Sound, New York - which was used for biological weapons testing during the Cold War - as another potential target.

During interrogation the day after her arrest she grabbed a rifle that had been left on a table and started shooting at her questioners. She failed to hit them but she was shot in the stomach as they returned fire.

Author Deborah Scroggins, who wrote a book about Siddiqui, calls her the 'poster child for jihadists around the world.'

'I doesn't surprise me that ISIS should call for her release, even though she is associated with al-Qaeda, because they want to take over al-Qaeda's mantle,' she told MailOnline.

'What better way to establish your bona fides than to exchange a prisoner for the jihadist's icon?'

Scroggins, whose book, Wanted Women: Faith, Lies, and the War on Terror was published in 2012, points out that Siddiqui received an 86-year jail sentence despite never harming anyone, and it has never been fully explained whether her plans were realistic or just in her head.

Siddiqui was only charged with two counts of attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon and three counts of assault. She was brought to the U.S. for trial which lasted for 14 days in January and February 2010.

'She was only tried for firing a gun at U.S. personnel overseas and Congress had just passed a law, going back to the attacks on the embassies in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam, that said anyone trying to kill U.S. personnel would get special strict sentencing,' said Scroggins.

During her trial she said she loved both the United States and Islam. Her lawyers pleaded for leniency due to mental issues, but she said: 'I am not paranoid. I do not agree with that.'

'I do not want any bloodshed. I do not want any misunderstanding. I really want to make peace and end the wars,' she said during her trial.

Siddiqui - prisoner number 90279-054 - is currently held in the Federal Medical Center in Carswell, Texas, which specializes in treating inmates with mental health issues. She is not due for release until August 8, 2083.

Scroggins added: 'She is definitely closely involved with the highest levels of al-Qaeda, but the fact is she has never been convicted of killing or injuring anyone, but she has become a cause celebre in the jihadist movement.'

Her 86-year sentence, imposed by U.S. District Judge Richard Berman, led to violent protests in her home country of Pakistan. Thousands of protestors burned tires in Lahore, and police had to fire teargas to quell riots in her hometown of Karachi.

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani called Siddiqui 'the daughter of the nation' and begged U.S. authorities to release her.

While Obama did swap five Taliban prisoners in exchange for suspected deserter Bowe Bergdahl, who was freed on May 31 to huge controversy,Obama authorized a daring rescue mission over the July 4 weekend that failed in the Syrian desert.

At least five ISIS militants were killed and one American soldier was wounded as the raid failed because the terrorists had moved Foley and other hostages including Miami journalist Steven Sotloff away from the base in Syria's northern Raqqa province.

Scroggins said the question of whether Siddiqui's release would be a real threat is doubtful. 'But exchanging her would have been a PR disaster for the Obama administration.'

She pointed out that the prisoners released in exchange for Bergdahl had not been convicted and tried in a U.S. court as Siddiqui was.

Her release would certainly have been perceived as a tremendous victory for the jihadist forces,' said Scroggins.

US says we do not pay ransoms
 

Lilbitsnana

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I wonder if it is remotely possible that they (ISIS) didn't know which prison she was in. Odds are they did, but, if they didn't, this article is very troubling.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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I wonder if it is remotely possible that they (ISIS) didn't know which prison she was in. Odds are they did, but, if they didn't, this article is very troubling.

I noticed that too. Along with the name of the judge who sentenced her. It's probably all in the book about her, but no need to incite people. Sometimes you really have to wonder about the wisdom of some journalists.

I thought it was too coincidental that she was MIT trained and was developing an Ebola bomb and they wanted her back now, when ebola is a real threat. She's AQ - not ISIS.

I wonder if these communications and threats were the real reason 0bama came home from his vacation last week. (even though he made it seem to be about iraq in general and mostly Ferguson). He may have had to be at the WH to receive some sort of communication or last minute hostage negotiation. But releasing Lady AQ (or giving them millions) was not going to happen.

Apparently European countries HAVE been paying the ransom, pissing off the admin. I'll see if I can find that article.

HD
 

Heliobas Disciple

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...allies-undermine-US-negotiate-terrorists.html
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The grubby multi-million dollar trade in hostages fueling the rise of ISIS: How European allies are undermining the US by negotiating with terrorists

- Since 2008 it is estimated that ISIS and al-Qaeda has raked in $125 million in ransom payments
- Most of this money has been paid by European governments
- Ransom payments are now the second largest source of income for terrorist groups
- ISIS demanded ransom of $132 million for safe return of James Foley
- The United States does not negotiate with terrorists


By James Nye for MailOnline and Chris Pleasance for MailOnline
Published: 11:33 EST, 21 August 2014 | Updated: 16:01 EST, 21 August 2014

The refusal of the US government to pay the $132 million ransom demanded by James Foley's ISIS captors has exposed the grubby payments that compliant European nations make for their kidnapped citizens around the world.

Because while the US and the UK categorically do not negotiate with terrorists and present a united front, their NATO allies frequently enter clandestine talks and have paid millions to get their people home.

This year alone ISIS and Al-Qaeda are believed to have received ransom payments for three Spanish journalists released in April, and four French journalists who were freed two weeks later.

Indeed, the ransom trade has fueled the seemingly inexorable rise of ISIS, pushing it to grow in strength.

Just today, Chuck Hagel, the US Defense Secretary called ISIS 'well funded', no doubt as a result of their activities in extorting money in ransom from European governments

'ISIS is as well funded and sophisticated a group we have seen...This is beyond anything we have ever seen'.

According to the New York Times it wants to emulate the business model of al-Qaeda who have raked in upwards of $125 million over the last five years in ransom - - mostly from European nations.

According to a statement by the US Treasury in June, ransom payments are now the second largest source of income for terrorist groups, after state sponsorship.

But all anti-terrorism experts agree that the paying ransoms perpetuates the problem of hostages.

More so, it means that American's stance on non-negotiation is undermined and means Americans face never be released without the use of force.

The leader of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula has even described kidnappings as 'an easy spoil' giving swift income to his terror network.

'Thanks to Allah, most of the battle costs, if not all, were paid from through the spoils,' the newspaper quoted him as saying.

'Kidnapping hostages is an easy spoil, which I may describe as a profitable trade and a precious treasure.'

The most prominent case - involving by far the most money - was that of four French nuclear firm employees who stunned the world when they were returned unharmed after three years in captivity.

Pierre Legrand, Thierry Dol, Daniel Larribe and Marc Feret were captured in September 2010 while working on a uranium mine in northern Niger.

Their touchdown at a military airport near Paris in October, where they were met by President Francois Hollande, prompted world headlines amid claims a heavy price had been paid.

The French government insisted it used diplomacy to free the four men, with Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian saying: ‘France has held the same position for the past three years - we don’t pay.'

But the French newspaper Le Monde, renowned for its secret service contacts, reported the country's intelligence agencies paid 20million Euros or $28 million for their release.

The New York Times investigation puts this figure far higher - at 30million Euros or $39 million which it is claimed was paid by a state-owned company.

The New York Times also claims France paid Al Qaeda 12.5million Euros or $16 million in 2011 to free three hostages from France, Togo and Madagascar.

The total - $58 million - means France's payments were almost than triple those of the next-highest payer, Qatar and Oman with $19.9 million.

Switzerland also paid $12,11 million, Spain paid $10.78 million and Austria paid $3.15 million, while the source of another $21.57 million in ransom money could not be determined.

Indeed, according to recently released prisoners, their ISIS captors were extremely aware of their prisoners monetary value, as judged by their nationality.

It was six weeks after a failed July 4 mission to rescue James Foley authorized by President Obama involving 'nearly every US military service' that his captors sent his family and the US government a $132 million ransom demand.

As well as money, the terror group had also requested the release of Aafia Siddiqui, an M.I.T. graduate and Pakistani neuroscientist with ties to Al Qaeda currently locked up in Texas.

Over the nearly two years he was hostage, James Foley's parents received numerous financial demands to secure his release.

His family were explicitly told by the government to not discuss the ransom demands with the press nor to name ISIS as his kidnappers.

According to Reuters journalist, David Rohde, Foley believed he would ultimately be freed by his own government.

'Foley believed that his government would help him,' says Rohde according to The Wrap.

'In a message that was not made public, Foley said that he believed so strongly that Washington would help that he refused to allow his fellow American captives to not believe in their government.'

His former boss, GlobalPost co-founder and CEO Philip Balboni told WCVB on Wednesday that he spent millions trying to secure his reporter's release.

'You know when you kidnap someone and hold them for almost two years, you don't do it unless you believe there is value in those hostages.'

'We received an email from the captors on Wednesday night of last week stating their intention to execute Jim,' Balboni said.

'The email was full of rage. We pleaded with the captors for mercy, but to no avail.'

Now, the failure to free Foley or negotiate his release has backed the president into a corner as he deals with the threat to kill the second hostage paraded in front of the camera on Tuesday, Steven John Sotloff.

Indeed, at the end of Tuesday's grisly video, Foley's executioner, who is widely believed to be British, delivers an ominous threat towards the White House.

'The life of this American citizen, Obama, depends on your next decision,'

The policy of non-negotiation, which the US shares with UK, now puts it increasingly at odds with many of it NATO partners.

In an opinion piece for Reuters, David Rohde, who works for the news agency argues that by launching a mission and not paying the ransom contributed to Foley's death.

'The payment of ransoms and abduction of foreigners must emerge from the shadows. It must be publicly debated,' wrote Mr. Rohde, who escaped from the Taliban himself by climbing out of a window.

'American and European policy makers should be forced to answer for their actions.'


HOW NATIONS PAID AL QAEDA: CLAIMS BY THE NEW YORK TIMES

FRANCE $58.1m

QATAR AND OMAN $20.4m

SWITZERLAND $12.4m

SPAIN $11m

AUSTRIA $3.2m
 

Lilbitsnana

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She's AQ - not ISIS.
Yes, but since ISIS broke off from AQ, they knew about her, I'm sure, just maybe not her whereabouts.

The other troubling thing, is, I hadn't heard this info before. Have any American media mentioned the woman in relation to Foley's beheading?

Who gave the info to the UK paper? My gosh, if you want to let ISIS know something without being directly tied to it, this was the way to do it.

I heard on the radio that ISIS has more volunteers/sign ups from the UK than the armed services over there.

It just seems a convenient way for O to be able to help his muslim brothers while "innocently" saying it wasn't him and avoiding the "bad PR".

ETA: ISIS is very good at getting people they want out of prisons; both the sneaky, surprise breakouts as well as the "turn the place to rubble" breakouts.
 

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HOW NATIONS PAID AL QAEDA: CLAIMS BY THE NEW YORK TIMES

FRANCE $58.1m

QATAR AND OMAN $20.4m

SWITZERLAND $12.4m

SPAIN $11m

AUSTRIA $3.2m


France, still cheese eating surrender monkeys.

RD
 

Heliobas Disciple

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The other troubling thing, is, I hadn't heard this info before. Have any American media mentioned the woman in relation to Foley's beheading?

I know, me either which is why it was such a shock and why I made a thread for the article. I think it's a major piece of news.

As for US media reporting, not that I've seen, but I didn't do a search. But it's definitely a factual report from the Daily Mail. Globalpost (the site that Foley worked for) released the last email his parents got from the kidnappers and it contains a reference to her. MzKitty posted a thread about it here:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...l-the-Islamic-State-sent-to-the-Foley-family&

The relevant line is:

You were given many chances to negotiate the release of your people via cash transactions as other governments have accepted. We have also offered prisoner exchanges to free the Muslims currently in your detention like our sister Dr Afia Sidiqqi, however you proved very quickly to us that this is NOT what you are interested in.

I'm sure the hostage takers know where she's being held unless she's been quietly moved. She's a hero to the Pakistanis and to AQ. If it was classified, I don't think Daily Mail would report it - but just because the leaders of ISIL know where she is doesn't mean the average jihad joe in the US did - and now they do. Irresponsible reporting.

The reason I commented that she was AQ was I thought it was interesting that ISIL - which is not AQ, it broke off from them and was thrown out basically - would be so interested in getting an AQ prisoner back before one of their own - unless of course she is of high value - which with her scientific credentials from MIT she certainly is. And because she's an expert in bio/chem warfare - my fear on reading the article was that it could be an indication of where their minds are at.

HD
 

JohnGaltfla

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Yes, but since ISIS broke off from AQ, they knew about her, I'm sure, just maybe not her whereabouts.

The other troubling thing, is, I hadn't heard this info before. Have any American media mentioned the woman in relation to Foley's beheading?

Who gave the info to the UK paper? My gosh, if you want to let ISIS know something without being directly tied to it, this was the way to do it.

I heard on the radio that ISIS has more volunteers/sign ups from the UK than the armed services over there.

It just seems a convenient way for O to be able to help his muslim brothers while "innocently" saying it wasn't him and avoiding the "bad PR".

ETA: ISIS is very good at getting people they want out of prisons; both the sneaky, surprise breakouts as well as the "turn the place to rubble" breakouts.

Remember gang: ISIS was AQ of Iraq originally but dropped the name. The US could not train or support them in Jordan if they kept their name or ties to AQ so they broke off and got the good stuff from us, the Saudis, and Qataris along with arms from Turkey.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
John, ISIL was kicked out of AQ for being WAY too radical.

And the NatSec folks all talked about Sidiqi over the past 2 days.



Her exchange is a flat non-starter.
Or so the consensus of NatSec Tweets runs.

though BHO is unpredictable.
 

Steve308

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Seems to me that infecting her with some ebola and trading her to ISIS would kind of be poetic justice. Along with a GPS tracker so the B-2s have something to guide in on...

Yeah, I know, the ebola would spread beyond ISIS and infect the entire middle east...might be a risk worth taking ;^)
 
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