CORONA Is the Entire Chi-Com Virus “Pandemic” an Elaborate Hoax?

[hunybee]

Once again - show me this bug's point of origin IN NATURE.

That is a fundamental issue in virology ... or it used to be.

that is a different way of saying what i am trying to point out.

the actual blood slide with the virus on it. not a digital or paper representation of what they are saying the virus is and then everyone accepts that as gospel and goes from there.

 

[hunybee]

Once again - show me this bug's point of origin IN NATURE.

That is a fundamental issue in virology ... or it used to be.

and then again, if it was truly lab created (assuming it is a real virus and not just on paper) then it would not be out in nature, would it?

 

[Mikiekimi]

According to the charts it shows that people "stopped" dying of heart disease, pneumonia and the flu.
I suspect they never stopped dying from those at all. All ya need is a covid test that will give a positive
whether it's actually positive or not. Voila you can then have people dying from something they didn't actually die from.

What carts are you referring to? The data from the CDC that covers excess mortality parses out causes other than those related to COVID.

CDC Excess Deaths 2020 as of October 3rd

 

[SSTemplar]

The CDC says they can't isolated it. That means it does not exist. Thus it must be a hoax. Simple logic.

 

[Dozdoats]

Well, we got the LEGEND of the bat/snake/cat/pangolin/human transmission chain - but last I knew, the virus had not been isolated in nature.

 

[pinkelsteinsmom]

The average death rate for the flu in the US in 2017/2018 was 61,000 people, we did not close down the country. I had H3N2 in 99 with 106 fever for days, almost didn't make it.

The CDC has audited the deaths from C19 for this year and found that a little over 9000 actually died of this flu. The rest of the 200,000+ so called cases were from other things unrelated.

The current crop of so called "cases" are not cases, they are those who test positive with this phony PCR test. THIS IS A FLU!

Burning the Constitution and eviscerating the american public from their wealth and freedom was the goal, it worked beautifully.

 

[naturallysweet]

The virus is real. The initial deaths from it seem to overwhelmingly be from people who were already sick with something. Doesn't change the fact that the virus kills them. No less than if a person with diabetes is hit by a car. We don't say that diabetes killed them.

Unfortunately, it does appear to leave long term problems in may people. Making covid a pre,-existing condition. Some have permanent organ damage. (Lungs, heart, new type 1 diabetes, etc). There are also a lot of people, including myself, who appear to have waves of alien symptoms that are still hitting us. We don't know if they will go away with time. Or it's a lifelong condition.

The Democrat response is what's fake. They found a crisis and are using it as a reason to attack. Claiming that covid doesn't exist makes as much sense as claiming a Hurricane or wildfire that destroyed an area doesn't exist. Just because Democrats tried to use it for political gain.

Could everyone please stop acting bat shit crazy about covid!!! This article is bat shit crazy.

 

[hunybee]

The CDC says they can't isolated it. That means it does not exist. Thus it must be a hoax. Simple logic.

simple logic to lead us to a logical train of questions to determine if it is a hoax.

we would need proof of the hoax. we would need the answers to other questions or hypothosis or postulates given forth.

 

[nchomemaker]

Jon Rappoport either can’t make money honestly, or he’s an idiot.

I have friends that are dead from COVID. It’s no hoax.

I had a Pastor that I listened to online and loved, even though I had never met him personally, he is dead because of Covid 19.

 

[Dobbin]

Burning the Constitution and eviscerating the american public from their wealth and freedom was the goal, it worked beautifully.

O'Brien's Big Brother would agree.

Next week. War with Oceania!

Dobbin

 

[naturallysweet]

The CDC says they can't isolated it. That means it does not exist. Thus it must be a hoax. Simple logic.

The dna has been mapped on many strains of this monster. How exactly did they do that without isolating it?

People should stop believing every whack job conspiracy theorist. They mat be fund to listen to. But don't believe them based in their word alone.

 

[parocan]

The charts have been posted, I can't remember where. so much stuff has been posted. How do we know
they died from covid? it has been admitted that the tests can pick up on someone who has the common cold.
What we do know is that up till the age of 65 or so, you have a 99.5-99.7 survival rate. After that it drops to around 96%
survival rate. but the elderly have always been susceptible to stuff as they get older. how many times in the news have ya heard about a bad flu going through a rest home and taking people out? But the fact here in BC we have had over 1000 overdose deaths compared to approx 200 covid deaths in the same amount of time. tells me covid is not a problem, compared to the depression and malaise that has gone over our society.

 

[hunybee]

The dna has been mapped on many strains of this monster. How exactly did they do that without isolating it?

People should stop believing every whack job conspiracy theorist. They mat be fund to listen to. But don't believe them based in their word alone.

ok, i am not answering for sstemplar, but i am just asking questions based on your statement.

who mapped out the multiple strains of the virus?
where are the actual blood slides with them on there?
are they using the sequencing that was given to them by someone to map out and make determinations?

 

[To-late]

We will most likely never know the truth about the (( corona virus )) I incapsulated and social distanced the word so no one gets sick...cough cough...sigh...

But its as plain as the egg on our faces. At least to some of us sheep.
The governments of the world, (with all their many many, little minions,,, these little nobodies,,all puffed up in their official roles),,,,are taking over and controling our lives.
For their own perverted power gain.

 

[ShadowMan]

I have a good friend that survived "What Ever The Hell this Is", was on a respirator, in a coma, given every treatment then known - including that special plasma, suffered severe kidney damage, lost over 60 pounds, is still S-L-O-W-L-Y recovering from it - months later, what ever it is/was/turns out to be, it IS FRIGGEN REAL!!

As far as "accounting numbers" for the actual proper morbidity tally, hell I don't know. Money talks and BS walks. I have no doubt that this WuFlu is a major contributing factor, but most likely not the ONLY factor in a lot of peoples demise. It does seem to target (mainly) obese, old and health compromised people. It might just be the final straw in a persons otherwise unhealthy lifestyle or condition. However if it gets the hospitals paid more money, then even a hangnail is Covid related, right? Think about it. Who in the hell is paying for all this hospitalization.....L-O-N-G term hospitalization, ICU-i.e. EXPENSIVE, intense weeks and months of hospitalization? That kind of care is not cheap and very few folks could afford it. How are the insurance companies paying for it? They've got to bleeding out money through their eyes! Or.....if it's diagnosed as COVID is Uncle Sugar picking up the tab.....in other words, TAXPAYERS?

Not surprisingly it's been TOTALLY blown out of proportion by a media system that never lets even the slightest questionable event go to waste. If it BLEEDS it LEADS!!

So what is the final answer? Honestly, we'll probably never know. Something is making people really really sick and is indisciminately killing a lot of folks out there. AND.....here's the kicker, we've still got a flu season headed our way. Our economy is on the rocks and we still don't know what the hell is really going on. Talk about sucks! Who do you believe? What do you believe? Where are the friggen FACTS!! What are the friggen FACTS!!

 

[Mr. Peabody]

what would be the cause of the deaths and the symptoms for people that have been said to have covid, if it wasn't actually covid?

seriously asking. the premise is intriguing and completely possible. so let's break down (with the assumption that this is accurate and correct for the purposes of our discussion) the details.

Respirator use was, in the beginning of this, the cause of many deaths.

 

[Dozdoats]

The basic problem many folks have (besides being scared spitless of this thing) is not knowing who or what to believe. Science has sold out to the highest bidder on one hand or to the most popular agenda on the other.

Facts? Whose facts? Hard science is more rare than diamonds.

 

[Raggedyman]

Again, while correct, without the catalyst for the pneumonia there would be no scenario. No disease, no treatment required.

PERHAPS . . . now lets suppose the patient is widowed and lives alone. her only prexistings are profound diabetes and obesity - which go hand in hand. lets further add to this that those prexistings had been stable and well managed medically. lets make her mobile and completely self sufficient prior to some trauma . . . something common to old folk. lets say that as the result of some LE fracture she's in an assisted living facility to recover . . . PT etc etc etc. add a wheel chair during that; add the lack of mobility due to same and her poor ability to ventilate associated with obesity and wheelchair confinement . . . ALL of those are GREAT REASONS to contract pneumonia. finally, add in the fact (as is typical with old folk) she had a FLU SHOT shortly prior to the trauma.

now recognize and more importantly ADMIT to youself - that ALL of what we've given our hypothetical patient is EXCEEDINGLY COMMON in that population.

continuing now . . . with that history - lets give her that pneumonia . . . what follows? here it is - admit to hospital thru the ER from the assisted living facility. recall the previously noted inability to manage her with dexametasone upstairs. add the FLU SHOT . . . add the financial incentives and a "positive" (or another very strong possibility - a FALSE positive covid test) she dies.

what caused her death? WHO THE HELL REALLY KNOWS? but what we DO KNOW and we know it with with 100% certainty is that the bean counters will make absolutely certain the death is reported as COVID by virtue of the financial incentives.

we can dance all night with this . . . OR . . . we can acknowledge that COVID is over hyped and manipulated for multiple previously noted reasons - primarily financial gain and CONTROL

please - I believe its your turn now

 

[Raggedyman]

I just hope Bigfoot doesn't catch Covid-19, gets delirious and falls off the flat earth only to be saved the Nephilim flying a UFO.

​

 

[ShadowMan]

Also Raggedyman, don't forget that the Chinese were looking for EXOTIC diseases to play with in their bio-warfare science arenas. We (USA....i.e. Fouci) also gave them samples of "something" and millions of dollars to play with after his research was nixed in the States.

China is also facing a HUGE issue with overpopulation of especially males due to the "One Child" push for decades. China is no stranger to MASSIVE starvation episodes throughout their long history. Those people will eat ANYTHING!! And do.

There are just sooooo many players and potential players in this game. It just spins your brain around at warp factor.

 

[Charmer153]

The virus is real.
The exaggerated death rate is not.
The media would want us to think it is 99% fatal, when it is really 99% survival.
The media would want us to think a piece of cloth will protect you, when it really makes you more sick.
The media would want us to think staying 6 feet apart will protect you, when it really weekends the immune system.

 

[Mikiekimi]

PERHAPS . . . now lets suppose the patient is widowed and lives alone. her only prexistings are profound diabetes and obesity - which go hand in hand. lets further add to this that those prexistings had been stable and well managed medically. lets make her mobile and completely self sufficient prior to some trauma . . . something common to old folk. lets say that as the result of some LE fracture she's in an assisted living facility to recover . . . PT etc etc etc. add a wheel chair during that; add the lack of mobility due to same and her poor ability to ventilate associated with obesity and wheelchair confinement . . . ALL of those are GREAT REASONS to contract pneumonia. finally, add in the fact (as is typical with old folk) she had a FLU SHOT shortly prior to the trauma.

now recognize and more importantly ADMIT to youself - that ALL of what we've given our hypothetical patient is EXCEEDINGLY COMMON in that population.

continuing now . . . with that history - lets give her that pneumonia . . . what follows? here it is - admit to hospital thru the ER from the assisted living facility. recall the previously noted inability to manage her with dexametasone upstairs. add the FLU SHOT . . . add the financial incentives and a "positive" (or another very strong possibility - a FALSE positive covid test) she dies.

what caused her death? WHO THE HELL REALLY KNOWS? but what we DO KNOW and we know it with with 100% certainty is that the bean counters will make absolutely certain the death is reported as COVID by virtue of the financial incentives.

we can dance all night with this . . . OR . . . we can acknowledge that COVID is over hyped and manipulated for multiple previously noted reasons - primarily financial gain and CONTROL

please - I believe its your turn now

Okay...now it’s a healthy 29 year old athlete...c’mon...we can do this all day.

 

[Raggedyman]

You don’t even realize how ridiculous this statement is. Around 3,000,000 people die each year in the US in an average year. They are hardly saying EVERYONE that died in US this year died of COVID.

ahhhh . . . I distinctly recall a local WW2 vetran who passed at 102 . . . frum COVID . . . just prior to july 4'th . . . I'm sure that old people die WITH covid but exclusively FROM covid? can we assume that if covid didn't exist we'd become a nation of Methuselahs??

 

[Raggedyman]

Okay...now it’s a healthy 29 year old athlete...c’mon...we can do this all day.

indeed we could - and THAT is my point.

btw even healthy 29 yo healthy athletes are up and out of bed ASAP following surgery . . . in order to prevent pneumonia.

 

[Mikiekimi]

indeed we could - and THAT is my point.

btw even healthy 29 yo healthy athletes are up and out of bed ASAP following surgery . . . in order to prevent pneumonia.

Ok, you win. COVID is fake...all to get Trump...blah, blah, blah...have fun.

 

[Raggedyman]

Also Raggedyman, don't forget that the Chinese were looking for EXOTIC diseases to play with in their bio-warfare science arenas. We (USA....i.e. Fouci) also gave them samples of "something" and millions of dollars to play with after his research was nixed in the States.

China is also facing a HUGE issue with overpopulation of especially males due to the "One Child" push for decades. China is no stranger to MASSIVE starvation episodes throughout their long history. Those people will eat ANYTHING!! And do.

There are just sooooo many players and potential players in this game. It just spins your brain around at warp factor.

indeed it does doc . . . indeed it does. the difficulty I have with this whole scene is quite simply WHY can't people think for themselves? Charmers post sums it up near perfectly:

The virus is real.
The exaggerated death rate is not.
The media would want us to think it is 99% fatal, when it is really 99% survival.
The media would want us to think a piece of cloth will protect you, when it really makes you more sick.
The media would want us to think staying 6 feet apart will protect you, when it really weekends the immune system.

its OK to have been fooled initialy . . . its not OK to continue being duped by blatantly obvious hype and hypocrisy. typically I will nor wade into this morass but the OP was "intriguing" - - to say the least

 

[BillyT]

btw even healthy 29 yo healthy athletes are up and out of bed ASAP following surgery . . . in order to prevent pneumonia.

Reading this a thought occurred to me. What would happen, during a normal flu season, if as soon as a person showed breathing difficulty they were put on a respirator? Would there be higher than normal death rates? I wonder how many of the deaths were actually caused by the treatments? I have no idea, but remember reading that the ventilators might be doing more harm than good. Also makes me wonder how bad seasonal flu would be if we had drive through testing to show even asymptomatic cases?

 

[Raggedyman]

Ok, you win. COVID is fake...all to get Trump...blah, blah, blah...have fun.

now see there -you're all flabbergasted. that's due to the injection of LOGIC, REASON and COMMON SENSE into an emotionally driven argument/point of view. go back and read MY post #28 - in the interest of saving you time here's the quote:

lest my intent be misunderstood or my words twisted:

• corona virus is real
• covid is overhyped
• that financial incentives exist are well known but unreported/unacknowledged
• there will never be an effective vaccine for ANY corona virus due to speed of mutation
• the "scam" is rooted in gaining CONTROL . . . manipulation of elections; forced vaccination; dehumanization of the individual preparatory to the coming of CWII; ultimately financial control and global dominance

 

[KFhunter]

The virus is real, the reaction to it is the scam.

 

[glennb6]

all of this is reasonable.


the one thing that may be not clear is that mr rappaport is saying that there really is NO actual and real virus.

he isn't saying it was cobbled together sloppily in the lab.

he is saying it is saying it is sloppily cobbled together on paper, or digitally. he is saying that the scientists that are studying this are not using actual virus direct from blood. he is saying that they are using models and formulas and sequences from what they were told was the virus and given to them on paper and are working things out on the blackboard and that there is no actual virus. since even the very high ups are not even in on it and are going by what they are being told, and it is being pushed by the media and hyped, then everyone is believing it. but there is no actual physical evidence of said virus.

he says this:

The virus was concocted out of data. It was and is data. The test was loaded with data that frequently matches the virus-data.

Think of it this way. You have a map of a lost gold mine. It seems to chart a course through the mountains and valleys of California. Of course, the map is a fake. It was drawn and made to look old.

You follow the map, and sure enough, in a remote mountain area, you arrive at a giant hole in the side of a hill. But the hole and the “mine” are fake, too. They’re a Potemkin Village. The tunnel and the braces and the struts were built recently.

The “map” matches “the mine.” Fake leads to fake.



so if it is itself fake and only on paper (the virus, not the media and government hype and running with the ball), what is causing the illness.

i am not trying to be pedantic. it is important that we suss out these things. if mr rappaport is going to make claims, then there needs to be the logical proof or at least be able to answer certain questions in regards his statements. it is important that is it is said that the virus is actually not real, but only on paper, then we need to ask and answer the question, "then what is causing the illness and deaths when all the other factors are being ruled out in regards statistical fakery?".

Rappaport doesn't need to provide proof of why some died because that is not the statement he is making. He IS saying that the CV19 strain has not been identified through traditional medical scientific method, and you read the rest of what he said. He is NOT saying some sort of corona virus or some strain thereof does not exist.

He IS saying, and it makes perfect sense, that assumptions and presumptions are not actual science - they are guesses. Something is making statistically a very few people dead but it hasn't been found and therefore... you read the rest I suppose.

 

[Mikiekimi]

now see there -you're all flabbergasted. that's due to the injection of LOGIC, REASON and COMMON SENSE into an emotionally driven argument/point of view. go back and read MY post #28 - in the interest of saving you time here's the quote:

lest my intent be misunderstood or my words twisted:

• corona virus is real
• covid is overhyped
• that financial incentives exist are well known but unreported/unacknowledged
• there will never be an effective vaccine for ANY corona virus due to speed of mutation
• the "scam" is rooted in gaining CONTROL . . . manipulation of elections; forced vaccination; dehumanization of the individual preparatory to the coming of CWII; ultimately financial control and global dominance

If you read my initial reply...I’m more or less of same opinion...

 

[raven]

the virus my kill you
but the treatment will kill the rest of us

 

[hunybee]

Rappaport doesn't need to provide proof of why some died because that is not the statement he is making. He IS saying that the CV19 strain has not been identified through traditional medical scientific method, and you read the rest of what he said. He is NOT saying some sort of corona virus or some strain thereof does not exist.

He IS saying, and it makes perfect sense, that assumptions and presumptions are not actual science - they are guesses. Something is making statistically a very few people dead but it hasn't been found and therefore... you read the rest I suppose.

actually, that is EXACTLY what he said, multiple times in multiple ways. he is saying that there is no actual virus, and that the "fake virus" (his words) are not in fact a virus, but data sequence that was cobbled together and presented as a real virus.

he is saying that, not me.

 

[glennb6]

The virus is real, the reaction to it is the scam.

Some unidentified virus is probably real (according the OP article) and the reaction is a scam. There's some beautiful logic to Rappaports argument that would fit computer logic perfectly. None the less, a small percentage of people still die. They are a very elite few BTW (divide deaths into population).

 

[KFhunter]

Well ya, no one is dying from influenza anymore..at least on paper.

 

[Trouble]

I have a good friend that survived "What Ever The Hell this Is", was on a respirator, in a coma, given every treatment then known - including that special plasma, suffered severe kidney damage, lost over 60 pounds, is still S-L-O-W-L-Y recovering from it - months later, what ever it is/was/turns out to be, it IS FRIGGEN REAL!!

As far as "accounting numbers" for the actual proper morbidity tally, hell I don't know. Money talks and BS walks. I have no doubt that this WuFlu is a major contributing factor, but most likely not the ONLY factor in a lot of peoples demise. It does seem to target (mainly) obese, old and health compromised people. It might just be the final straw in a persons otherwise unhealthy lifestyle or condition. However if it gets the hospitals paid more money, then even a hangnail is Covid related, right? Think about it. Who in the hell is paying for all this hospitalization.....L-O-N-G term hospitalization, ICU-i.e. EXPENSIVE, intense weeks and months of hospitalization? That kind of care is not cheap and very few folks could afford it. How are the insurance companies paying for it? They've got to bleeding out money through their eyes! Or.....if it's diagnosed as COVID is Uncle Sugar picking up the tab.....in other words, TAXPAYERS?

Not surprisingly it's been TOTALLY blown out of proportion by a media system that never lets even the slightest questionable event go to waste. If it BLEEDS it LEADS!!

So what is the final answer? Honestly, we'll probably never know. Something is making people really really sick and is indisciminately killing a lot of folks out there. AND.....here's the kicker, we've still got a flu season headed our way. Our economy is on the rocks and we still don't know what the hell is really going on. Talk about sucks! Who do you believe? What do you believe? Where are the friggen FACTS!! What are the friggen FACTS!!

Thats your opinion, not fact. Its not the boogeyman man its made out to be, period. Its a power grab, used against us.

 

[Raggedyman]

Reading this a thought occurred to me. What would happen, during a normal flu season, if as soon as a person showed breathing difficulty they were put on a respirator? Would there be higher than normal death rates? I wonder how many of the deaths were actually caused by the treatments? I have no idea, but remember reading that the ventilators might be doing more harm than good. Also makes me wonder how bad seasonal flu would be if we had drive through testing to show even asymptomatic cases?

hmmmm . . . being on a vent requires a specific clinical picture - certain circumstances presented. a question for one of our critical care nurses - its waayyyyyy out of my area . . . but I think I'm on pretty safe to say it WOULD NOT occur under the circumstances you suggest: "during a normal flu season, if as soon as a person showed breathing difficulty" . . . on the other hand your question "makes me wonder how bad seasonal flu would be if we had drive through testing to show even asymptomatic cases?" is beyond interesting . . .

 

[glennb6]

From an online form that has a great deal of natural and healthy suspicion about a whole lot of things, I really have to wonder about the posters who declare the deadly virus because they know someone who has died or they got tested themselves and showed positive.

Virus - not scientifically identified.
Tests - highly prone to false positives
Vaxs - flu vaxes haven't been very effective and if you haven't/cannot identify CV19 scientifically, how do you make a vax!?
Masks - shown to not do sh*t medically
Lockdowns - shown to not to sh*t medically
Restrictions - complete abuse of power by govts
Media reaction - doing as they are told to promote fear
Actual deaths - 0.015% of world pop
Cases - half of one percent of world pop but who cares, people get sick every day
WHO - financially connected to Gates, Fauxi, and big pharma, all of which have vested interest$ in promoting CV
WEF - says right on their website that CV is a TOOL to achieve their objectives - that is NOT a conspiracy.
Event 201 - game planned the scamdemic a few months before it happened

There's more but that's enough. If ANY ONE of these points don't raise a huge red flag then the person is a zombie. When one is being told directly to their face that 2+2=5 and they accept it??!?

What ever happened to Question Authority? Demand real proof! Don't trust govt and really don't trust big brother.
Lie to me once and I will question whatever you say to me thereafter, but lie to me again and I will never believe anything you say in the future, truth or otherwise.

 

[diamonds]

I do believe Covid is real and people have died.. I do believe flu is real and also kills..

I firmly believe we will develop herd immunity that will help protect those that can be impacted in the at risk group.. I also believe we will end up with a decent "flu vaccination" type for those who do want it a year or two down the road..

Now that being said ---I firmly believe the democrats are playing it up as a fear factor to influence votes... The Dem controlled states have stricter mandates and rules to control the population in their state.. They are also showing higher death ratios verses republican states that have lower restrictions..

It all comes down to common sense.. Protect the high risk group from exposure and let the others live normally to develop the herd immunity factor.. Thankfully this is not a virus with a 70% or higher death sentence.. If it was we would all be screwed by the way Democrat states have handled Covid..

 

[Raggedyman]

If you read my initial reply...I’m more or less of same opinion...

good - then we're on the same page and no need to dance all I've EVER said about this can be summed up in these few words: DON'T BE DRIVEN BY THE HYPE . . . no more and no less.