dstraito
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I think that things are going to get a lot worse before better. A civil war may be coming but it's not North and South, Black and White, it is Liberal versus Conservative.
Obviously the two groups have a different idea on what it means to be American.
Conservatives are rallying across the country to protest what they see as unfair, unsustainable, and un-American policies that the Democrats and the Liberals are trying to shove down our throats. The lack of transparency, 1000 page documents they try to rush through before anyone has a chance to read them. Reallocation of Wealth. Increased, unfair taxation. Deficit and debt beyond belief.
Who called them UN-American when they protested nearly EVERYTHING BUSH did?
Why is every question or comment about Obama's policies is labeled Racist? - I'll tell you why, because the policies are flawed and if people start to realize that they will not pass so it is easier to discredit the individual or group than the message they are repeating. It's easier to jump on the National Band wagon and label dissention as Un-American instead of "protest is the ultimate patriotic act".
Bring it on Nancy. Every time you open your mouth you undermine your flawed agendas and programs and strengthen the resolve of American’s who consider themselves as Incredibly Patriotic as I myself do.
What we consider Un-American is the policies Nancy and her party are trying to shove down our throats that are SO detrimental to the future of ALL AMERICANS.
We have found our VOICES NANCY and you and your crony’s are NOT going to be able to silence us not matter how badly you malign us.
What you are going to find NANCY is that you probably will NOT get voted back into Office because people are being able to perceive your lying, false, power-grabbing motivations.
Keep on talking badly about AMERICAN’s that want answers, Keep on trying to hide the issues and attack the messengers, it WILL backfire and then maybe we can get rid of both parties and start over. How about a campaign to “NOT VOTE IN ANY INCUMBENT”?
Keep it up NANCY, you are doing yourself more damage than anyone else ever could.
'Un-American' attacks can't derail health care debate
By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer
from http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/unamerican-attacks-cant-derail-health-care-debate-.html
Americans have been waiting for nearly a century for quality, affordable health care.
Health coverage for all was on the national agenda as early as 1912, thanks to
Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose presidential run. Months after
World War II came to an end in 1945,
President Harry Truman called on Congress to guarantee all Americans the "right to adequate medical care and protection from the economic fears of sickness." From President
Lyndon Johnson to
President Bill Clinton, to President
Obama's winning campaign on the promise of reform, there hasn't been a more debated domestic issue than the promise of affordable health care for all.
(Steny Hoyer/USA TODAY)
(Nancy Pelosi/USA TODAY)
We believe it is healthy for such a historic effort to be subject to so much scrutiny and debate. The failure of past attempts is a reminder that health insurance reform is a defining moment in our nation's history — it is well worth the time it takes to get it right. We are confident that we will get this right.
Already, three House committees have passed this critical legislation and over August, the two of us will work closely with those three committees to produce one strong piece of legislation that the House will approve in September.
In the meantime, as members of Congress spend time at home during August, they are talking with their constituents about reform. The dialogue between elected representatives and constituents is at the heart of our democracy and plays an integral role in assuring that the legislation we write reflects the genuine needs and concerns of the people we represent.
However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue. These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted "Just say no!" drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.
Let the facts be heard
These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.
Health care is complex. It touches every American life. It drives our economy. People must be allowed to learn the facts.
The first fact is that health insurance reform will mean more patient choice. It will allow every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it. And it will free doctors and patients to make the health decisions that make the most sense, not the most profits for insurance companies.
Reform will mean stability and peace of mind for the middle class. Never again will medical bills drive Americans into bankruptcy; never again will Americans be in danger of losing coverage if they lose their jobs or if they become sick; never again will insurance companies be allowed to deny patients coverage because of pre-existing conditions.
Lower costs, better care
Reform will mean affordable coverage for all Americans. Our plan's cost-lowering measures include a public health insurance option to bring competitive pressure to bear on rapidly consolidating private insurers, research on health outcomes to better inform the decisions of patients and doctors, and electronic medical records to help doctors save money by working together. For seniors, the plan closes the notorious Medicare Part D "doughnut hole" that denies drug coverage to those with between $2,700 and $6,100 per year in prescriptions.
Reform will also mean higher-quality care by promoting preventive care so health problems can be addressed before they become crises. This, too, will save money. We'll be a much healthier country if all patients can receive regular checkups and tests, such as mammograms and diabetes exams, without paying a dime out-of-pocket.
This month, despite the disruptions, members of Congress will listen to their constituents back home and explain reform legislation. We are confident that our principles of affordable, quality health care will stand up to any and all critics.
Now — with Americans strongly supporting health insurance reform, with Congress reaching consensus on a plan, and with a president who ran and won on this specific promise of change — America is closer than ever to this century-deferred goal.
This fall, at long last, we must reach it.
Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is speaker of the House and
Steny Hoyer, D-Md., is House majority leader.
Obviously the two groups have a different idea on what it means to be American.
Conservatives are rallying across the country to protest what they see as unfair, unsustainable, and un-American policies that the Democrats and the Liberals are trying to shove down our throats. The lack of transparency, 1000 page documents they try to rush through before anyone has a chance to read them. Reallocation of Wealth. Increased, unfair taxation. Deficit and debt beyond belief.
Who called them UN-American when they protested nearly EVERYTHING BUSH did?
Why is every question or comment about Obama's policies is labeled Racist? - I'll tell you why, because the policies are flawed and if people start to realize that they will not pass so it is easier to discredit the individual or group than the message they are repeating. It's easier to jump on the National Band wagon and label dissention as Un-American instead of "protest is the ultimate patriotic act".
Bring it on Nancy. Every time you open your mouth you undermine your flawed agendas and programs and strengthen the resolve of American’s who consider themselves as Incredibly Patriotic as I myself do.
What we consider Un-American is the policies Nancy and her party are trying to shove down our throats that are SO detrimental to the future of ALL AMERICANS.
We have found our VOICES NANCY and you and your crony’s are NOT going to be able to silence us not matter how badly you malign us.
What you are going to find NANCY is that you probably will NOT get voted back into Office because people are being able to perceive your lying, false, power-grabbing motivations.
Keep on talking badly about AMERICAN’s that want answers, Keep on trying to hide the issues and attack the messengers, it WILL backfire and then maybe we can get rid of both parties and start over. How about a campaign to “NOT VOTE IN ANY INCUMBENT”?
Keep it up NANCY, you are doing yourself more damage than anyone else ever could.
'Un-American' attacks can't derail health care debate
By Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer
from http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/unamerican-attacks-cant-derail-health-care-debate-.html
Americans have been waiting for nearly a century for quality, affordable health care.
Health coverage for all was on the national agenda as early as 1912, thanks to
Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose presidential run. Months after
World War II came to an end in 1945,
President Harry Truman called on Congress to guarantee all Americans the "right to adequate medical care and protection from the economic fears of sickness." From President
Lyndon Johnson to
President Bill Clinton, to President
Obama's winning campaign on the promise of reform, there hasn't been a more debated domestic issue than the promise of affordable health care for all.
(Steny Hoyer/USA TODAY)
(Nancy Pelosi/USA TODAY)
We believe it is healthy for such a historic effort to be subject to so much scrutiny and debate. The failure of past attempts is a reminder that health insurance reform is a defining moment in our nation's history — it is well worth the time it takes to get it right. We are confident that we will get this right.
Already, three House committees have passed this critical legislation and over August, the two of us will work closely with those three committees to produce one strong piece of legislation that the House will approve in September.
In the meantime, as members of Congress spend time at home during August, they are talking with their constituents about reform. The dialogue between elected representatives and constituents is at the heart of our democracy and plays an integral role in assuring that the legislation we write reflects the genuine needs and concerns of the people we represent.
However, it is now evident that an ugly campaign is underway not merely to misrepresent the health insurance reform legislation, but to disrupt public meetings and prevent members of Congress and constituents from conducting a civil dialogue. These tactics have included hanging in effigy one Democratic member of Congress in Maryland and protesters holding a sign displaying a tombstone with the name of another congressman in Texas, where protesters also shouted "Just say no!" drowning out those who wanted to hold a substantive discussion.
Let the facts be heard
These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades.
Health care is complex. It touches every American life. It drives our economy. People must be allowed to learn the facts.
The first fact is that health insurance reform will mean more patient choice. It will allow every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it. And it will free doctors and patients to make the health decisions that make the most sense, not the most profits for insurance companies.
Reform will mean stability and peace of mind for the middle class. Never again will medical bills drive Americans into bankruptcy; never again will Americans be in danger of losing coverage if they lose their jobs or if they become sick; never again will insurance companies be allowed to deny patients coverage because of pre-existing conditions.
Lower costs, better care
Reform will mean affordable coverage for all Americans. Our plan's cost-lowering measures include a public health insurance option to bring competitive pressure to bear on rapidly consolidating private insurers, research on health outcomes to better inform the decisions of patients and doctors, and electronic medical records to help doctors save money by working together. For seniors, the plan closes the notorious Medicare Part D "doughnut hole" that denies drug coverage to those with between $2,700 and $6,100 per year in prescriptions.
Reform will also mean higher-quality care by promoting preventive care so health problems can be addressed before they become crises. This, too, will save money. We'll be a much healthier country if all patients can receive regular checkups and tests, such as mammograms and diabetes exams, without paying a dime out-of-pocket.
This month, despite the disruptions, members of Congress will listen to their constituents back home and explain reform legislation. We are confident that our principles of affordable, quality health care will stand up to any and all critics.
Now — with Americans strongly supporting health insurance reform, with Congress reaching consensus on a plan, and with a president who ran and won on this specific promise of change — America is closer than ever to this century-deferred goal.
This fall, at long last, we must reach it.
Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is speaker of the House and
Steny Hoyer, D-Md., is House majority leader.
It's VERY American to protest, disagree with, debate, criticize, and even ridicule our elected figures and the government in general. So I may complain, but I'm glad I have the right to.
