ALERT Is Alaska shutting down?

Sammy55

Veteran Member
Just heard from a relative who heard from a prepper in Alaska. The prepper said that Alaska is closing down today for 4 weeks. Anyone heard this at all?

She also said that California are also partly starting to shut down.

The prepper said to get your stuff in while you can!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Just heard from a relative who heard from a prepper in Alaska. The prepper said that Alaska is closing down today for 4 weeks. Anyone heard this at all?

She also said that California are also partly starting to shut down.

The prepper said to get your stuff in while you can!

Does this mean total lockdown or only partial like the last time?
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
All the prepper said was that they were shutting down for 4 weeks. I was hoping that someone else, especially someone in Alaska, would have details.
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
I'm surprised a prepper person from Alaska would give wrong info. But then, it might have been my relative who heard or understood it wrong.

The relative is pretty new to prepping, even though I've been somewhat talking about it to her and gently encouraging her to do so for years. Now she is furiously trying to catch up. She's also VERY highly excitable and is VERY scared to death of getting Covid. Not a good combination! All of that combined is causing loss of sleep and chest pains for her. I try to calm her down and talk her "off of the window ledge" just about every day.
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
I'm surprised a prepper person from Alaska would give wrong info. But then, it might have been my relative who heard or understood it wrong.

The relative is pretty new to prepping, even though I've been somewhat talking about it to her and gently encouraging her to do so for years. Now she is furiously trying to catch up. She's also VERY highly excitable and is VERY scared to death of getting Covid. Not a good combination! All of that combined is causing loss of sleep and chest pains for her. I try to calm her down and talk her "off of the window ledge" just about every day.
Please impress to her that prepping is a marathon, not a sprint. The quickest way for her to get "burned out" will be to continue her current path. She'll also alienate many other people who could benefit from the "prepper perspective".

ETA: They weren't trying to sell her something by chance?
 

prudentwatcher

Veteran Member
Alaska Granny has a youtube channel and she says that Anchorage is locked down and they are supposed to stay at home for the next four weeks. She also says that food is still scarce at the stores and is still being rationed when you order online for pickup.

A friend who lives here in Florida but who has a brother in Anchorage says that he told her that cases are exploding because it is the salmon harvest season and they have a lot of outside workers in at the canneries and they think the outside workers brought it in again.
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
Thanks, prudentwatcher, for the info and clarification. I guess my relative heard it wrong. Like I said, she's easily excitable so she'd do that. Thanks for clarifying it!
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
MO spiked today. We’re now 3rd in the US in terms of growth in cases.
I’m not sure if you saw my recent post. My sons friends did an experiment. Went to Mercy health care system to get a covid test. They had no known exposure to the virus, zero symptoms. Tested positive. Went to Bowling Green to be tested the same day. Negative. Went back to BG to be retested, still negative. The St. Dominic outbreak? That My neighbor’s family. She told me her uncle tested positive. He had mild flu like symptoms for one day. All the kids were tested had zero symptoms, tested positive.

I also posted my mom was in DePaul hospital in Bridgeton. I was allowed to see her. One visitor per day. I asked her nurse, how bad was it during the peak? She said, we discharged 300 patients, some died. I said, you mean like 3000? She said, no, 300. They had 4 halls full. I asked 4 halls? She said, yes, 4 halls. There’s 7 floors with 4 halls on each floor. I was shocked.This was in July. They were down to ONE covid hall. She just had her floor open back up. She was out of work for 5 months, just was called back into work. They were not near capacity. They had not called all their staff back, so their capacity was gauged by 60% of the hospital being staffed. So being at capacity was not really accurate when 40% of their staff was still out of work. Yes, cases might be increasing, by inaccurate tests, but the hospitals are fudging their numbers.
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
Please impress to her that prepping is a marathon, not a sprint. The quickest way for her to get "burned out" will be to continue her current path. She'll also alienate many other people who could benefit from the "prepper perspective".

ETA: They weren't trying to sell her something by chance?
She is sprinting, but with her excited nature, she probably won't burn out for awhile. LOL!!

I don't know who you are referring to when you say, "She'll also alienate many other people who could benefit from the "prepper perspective," but if you meant my relative...I've been cautioning her to keep her mouth shut about what she's doing so she doesn't have people showing up at her house when TSHTF. Already she's gotten a few "tastes" of it and does NOT like it! LOL!

No, nothing being sold. Just getting info from preppers all over the country. It's good for her. It reinforces what I've been telling her for years. She never listened to me before, but she is now. She's discovering that I know quite a bit and I'm not dumb. Part of me is irked that she didn't listen to me before but listens to them now. The other part thinks it's funny.
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
I’m not sure if you saw my recent post. My sons friends did an experiment. Went to Mercy health care system to get a covid test. They had no known exposure to the virus, zero symptoms. Tested positive. Went to Bowling Green to be tested the same day. Negative. Went back to BG to be retested, still negative. The St. Dominic outbreak? That My neighbor’s family. She told me her uncle tested positive. He had mild flu like symptoms for one day. All the kids were tested had zero symptoms, tested positive.

I also posted my mom was in DePaul hospital in Bridgeton. I was allowed to see her. One visitor per day. I asked her nurse, how bad was it during the peak? She said, we discharged 300 patients, some died. I said, you mean like 3000? She said, no, 300. They had 4 halls full. I asked 4 halls? She said, yes, 4 halls. There’s 7 floors with 4 halls on each floor. I was shocked.This was in July. They were down to ONE covid hall. She just had her floor open back up. She was out of work for 5 months, just was called back into work. They were not near capacity. They had not called all their staff back, so their capacity was gauged by 60% of the hospital being staffed. So being at capacity was not really accurate when 40% of their staff was still out of work. Yes, cases might be increasing, by inaccurate tests, but the hospitals are fudging their numbers.
Good information, mary! We know the hospitals are fudging the numbers and probably the .g o v people, too. Makes me angry that they are manipulating numbers to manipulate people, and that people aren't in mass protests against it.
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
I suspect by the time they figure out after multiple "close everything down" orders it doesn't stop this thing, the economy is going to be irreparably damaged. Bunch of dumb asses.
I strongly suspect that the economy is already irreparably damaged. In fact, I strongly suspect that this Covid sh*t is here to cover that irreparably damaged economy. Gotta have something to blame it on, ya know!?!

I agree with you......big bunch of dumb a*ses!
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
Good information, mary! We know the hospitals are fudging the numbers and probably the .g o v people, too. Makes me angry that they are manipulating numbers to manipulate people, and that people aren't in mass protests against it.
I want I add my mom was tested TWICE for covid at DePaul, negative. Guess what hall they put her on. The COvid hall!!!! I’m totally serious. One other weird thing. My friend is a PA at Childrens Hospital in StL. Keep in mind how hospitals are gauging what “capacity” is, which is not 100% of ALL beds being used. Her mother told me They are sending elderly covid patients to that children’s hospital. They can’t get well children sick with it, so they are purposely sending that virus into a hospital with very ill immunosuppressed children.
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
I’m not sure if you saw my recent post. My sons friends did an experiment. Went to Mercy health care system to get a covid test. They had no known exposure to the virus, zero symptoms. Tested positive. Went to Bowling Green to be tested the same day. Negative. Went back to BG to be retested, still negative. The St. Dominic outbreak? That My neighbor’s family. She told me her uncle tested positive. He had mild flu like symptoms for one day. All the kids were tested had zero symptoms, tested positive.

I also posted my mom was in DePaul hospital in Bridgeton. I was allowed to see her. One visitor per day. I asked her nurse, how bad was it during the peak? She said, we discharged 300 patients, some died. I said, you mean like 3000? She said, no, 300. They had 4 halls full. I asked 4 halls? She said, yes, 4 halls. There’s 7 floors with 4 halls on each floor. I was shocked.This was in July. They were down to ONE covid hall. She just had her floor open back up. She was out of work for 5 months, just was called back into work. They were not near capacity. They had not called all their staff back, so their capacity was gauged by 60% of the hospital being staffed. So being at capacity was not really accurate when 40% of their staff was still out of work. Yes, cases might be increasing, by inaccurate tests, but the hospitals are fudging their numbers.
The politicians pulled the same game here saying no room but it was because they didn't have enough nurses to staff everything. So the numbers are fast and loose. We had the same thing happen here but it happened on The national news. the county Judge screwed up by mentioning the hospitals had a 1000 beds occupied but we had 2000 total. Fast and loose with the numbers.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
The politicians pulled the same game here saying no room but it was because they didn't have enough nurses to staff everything. So the numbers are fast and loose. We had the same thing happen here but it happened on The national news. the county Judge screwed up by mentioning the hospitals had a 1000 beds occupied but we had 2000 total. Fast and loose with the numbers.
My cousin lives in Blue Ridge TX, works at psyche VA hospital. She was mandated to go to VA “covid” hospital. She was told she’d be in quarantine for 4 months, which would be as long as she was to work there. First day, this is what my aunt sent me in a text. Name redacted:

“You'll find this interesting. Do you know that IV that —— inserted? Instead of marking it like a regular IV, she was told to mark it a Covid IV.”

That same FIRST NIGHT she worked at the “covid” hospital, after having to make arrangements for my aunt to fly down to watch my cousins children, she was dismissed and told the census didn’t warrant them staffing the extra nurses they brought in. She worked ONE shift and was sent home.
 

seraphima

Veteran Member
We are having group positive tests at canneries. These are out of state workers brought in to man the canneries. They live in congregate housing and work in conditions not dissimilar to meat packing plants. Once diagnosed, they are removed from the location and taken elsewhere to recover. We have many fewer local transmissions of Covid in 'town', often travel-related within a family.
 

subnet

Boot
Please impress to her that prepping is a marathon, not a sprint. The quickest way for her to get "burned out" will be to continue her current path. She'll also alienate many other people who could benefit from the "prepper perspective".

ETA: They weren't trying to sell her something by chance?
Hehe...depends on how many minutes till midnight it is....
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
We are having group positive tests at canneries. These are out of state workers brought in to man the canneries. They live in congregate housing and work in conditions not dissimilar to meat packing plants. Once diagnosed, they are removed from the location and taken elsewhere to recover. We have many fewer local transmissions of Covid in 'town', often travel-related within a family.
A great many of those cannery/fishery workers were sent to Anchorage, which means the Anchorage health care and hospitals have been stretched a bit more. Our numbers statewide, although rising quite a lot as expected with seasonal workers coming in PLUS all the testing results coming in late, have us up to at 3400 residents tested positive since early March; with a total of 141 hospitalized for cv since early March (last number I had for currently hospitalized was 34 as either positive or under investigation).

Alaska is not shutting back down as yet. Neither is Anchorage (despite the mayor wanting to) - though they are stepping back from being fully open. Jury duty cancelled til Nov; schools online only; masks required in businesses & govt offices thru the municipality; indoor dining halted. But the rest of the state is still at the status we've been in. Many bush villages are trying to stay locked down as they have no health care facilities for the most part; rural places say it's up to you if you want to wear a mask (though some places do require one as store policy). It just varies by community.

Today we had a slow-down in numbers testing positive - just 40 though that sounds high from the many weeks we had just just one or two per day. I hope that's the start of a downward trend.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Does this mean total lockdown or only partial like the last time?

The problem with the pandemic is that we are in an election year. Too many groups trying to use the pandemic to their advantage politically. After the election, I wouldn't be surprised if starting in 2021, no matter who wins, we magically have some sort of up and down plan in place until there is either a vaccine or good anti-viral. I can see opening up mostly for months, letting numbers surge, then locking down for a couple weeks, etc..
 

West

Senior
My grandmother worked near LA packing oranges in the late 30s, and up to 12-7-1941 then grandpa got a promotion at the ship yards with over a hundred men working under him. Before that he was a apprentice and working for free to learn a trade.

Knowing how employers get a huge brake on payroll liabilities to hire migrant workers who are not US citizens is a huge BS system.

The actual pay that the migrants get to take home is good monies and usually the same take home that a citizen gets, if they was to do the jobs. It's not cheap labor, it's cheaper LIABILITIES for the employers!

And if I'm reading right the migrants doing the jobs at the canneries are the reason for Alaska's current dilemma, costing tax payers even more.

What's wrong with this picture?

Frigging lawyers who become career politicians! Grrrrr...
 
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