CORONA Iranian Military Leader: Coronavirus Is a Bioweapon from a ‘Hostile State’

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Coronavirus Is a Bioweapon from a 'Hostile State'
Frances Martel
Brigadier General Gholam Reza Jalali, an Iranian officer in charge of the country’s Civil Defense Organization, said in an interview on Tuesday that the Chinese coronavirus may be a “biological attack” against Iran and China, not a naturally occurring disease.
The mystery behind the origin of the Chinese coronavirus – first identified in the central metropolis of Wuhan, home to one of China’s most advanced biological laboratories – has birthed many theories on how the highly contagious outbreak began. Chinese authorities initially concluded that the virus originated in wild animal meat and jumped to humans at a wild meat market in Wuhan, but multiple scientific studies have dismissed that possibility, leaving no widely agreed-upon explanation.
Chinese officials themselves have speculated that the virus originated outside of the country, despite no evidence of it having infected a human being outside of Wuhan before December 2019.
Jalali did not name a country allegedly responsible for the “biological attack” of unleashing the coronavirus on China and Iran, but he appeared to imply that the United States or another Western country executed the attack, according to the Iranian Fars News Agency.
“A study of the consequences of the virus in terms of tolls or the extent of the epidemic and the type of media propaganda over this issue that is aimed at increasing fear and panic among people strengthens the speculations that a biological attack has been launched against China and Iran with economic goals,” Jalali toldFars, a government outlet. The official went on to accuse a “hostile state,” without specifying, of creating the coronavirus.
Jalali ceded that he would need “laboratorial investigations and comparing the genome of the primary virus and the new genomes” to confirm the theory.
Iran is struggling with thousands of coronavirus cases and potentially thousands of deaths, though as of Wednesday the Islamic regime claims it has documented only 92 deaths. The official tally notes 2,922 cases of coronavirus in Iran, most originating in the city of Qom, a popular tourist location due to its importance in Shiite Islam.
These numbers are significantly lower than what outside reports and claims from dissident groups assert. The People’s Mojahedin Organization of Iran (PMOI/MEK), one of Iran’s largest dissident organizations, said in a press release Tuesday that it had evidence that as many as 1,200 people had died in Iran since the first case of Chinese coronavirus was documented and the deaths are occurring nationwide, not just in Qom.
“The rapid virus outbreak in Iran and its transmission to other countries around the world is the result of weeks-long cover-ups, lies, and misleading information to the public.” PMOI asserted in its statement Tuesday, adding that multiple Iranian lawmakers are speaking out against the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and disputing official government statistics. Iran’s parliament is particularly threatened by the coronavirus outbreak, as Tehran has confirmed 23 lawmakers as coronavirus carriers. They join the nation’s vice president and the head of coronavirus response as senior government officials infected with the virus.
PMOI also claimed on Wednesday that the virus had begun infecting members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), a U.S.-designated terrorist organization. At least one IRGC leader, ground forces counterintelligence head Ramezan Pourghassem, allegedly died of coronavirus disease.
The group also published videos online allegedly of diseased people collapsing on the streets of Tehran, suggesting the outbreak is much more widespread than the government is willing to admit. The videos resemble those smuggled out of Wuhan, China, during the early days of the outbreak there in January, which Beijing refused to confirm as legitimate.

The Chinese coronavirus, like similar pathogens, causes flu-like symptoms including difficulty breathing, fever, and body aches. Scientists have evidence that it is highly contagious through moisture particles in the air and infects the lungs. In severe cases, patients experience difficulty breathing that evolves into pneumonia, sometimes with fatal consequences. Most fatal cases appear to be occurring among seniors or individuals with other chronic conditions.
Similarly, Iranian media have taken to attacking PMOI for publishing the information it claims to have acquired from sources inside the country.
“These days, thousands of tweets and fake information are produced by [PMOI] with the common notion that foreign medical items are contaminated and that (Iran’s) people should refrain from using them,” Iranian Ambassador to London Hamid Baeidinejad accused in a post on Tuesday. It is not clear what “fake information” he was referring to, as the Tasnim News Agency, which ran his comments, did not offer any examples.
Amid growing concerns that the outbreak in Iran is out of control, Ayatollah Khamenei issued remarks Tuesday insisting that the “jihad” against coronavirus is going well and that the outbreak “is not such a big tragedy.”
“I don’t want to say it’s unimportant, but let’s not exaggerate it either. The Coronavirus will affect the country briefly & leave. But the experience it brings, and the actions of the people & the govt sectors, are like a public exercise that will remain as an achievement,” Khamenei said.
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Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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This puts an entirely different spin on Johnny Reb’s thread from a day or two ago. I dismissed his premise as woo, but it looks like there might be some validity to it. If the Iranians get around to blaming Israel (his primary talking point) I don’t know that they’d attack. But the Iranian government is crazy, so I wouldn’t rule it out.

JR, I apologize for being hard on your thoughts.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I saw another article (somewhere, sorry no link) that there are folks in the "upper" levels in China starting to say something very similar in terms of the disease is essentially an outside attack on the Chinese.

That doesn't make it true in the case of either country but if the elites BELIEVE it to be true (or want to use it as a handy excuse to attack someone(s), it will not surprise me.
 

vestige

Deceased
This puts an entirely different spin on Johnny Reb’s thread from a day or two ago. I dismissed his premise as woo, but it looks like there might be some validity to it. If the Iranians get around to blaming Israel (his primary talking point) I don’t know that they’d attack. But the Iranian government is crazy, so I wouldn’t rule it out.

JR, I apologize for being hard on your thoughts.

I noticed on the big Corona thread the implication that the virus was the result of some hostile foreign force(s).

Talk of this nature, supported or unsupported is, at the very least, indicative that countries very adversely impacted have the feeling that they were "attacked."

It is talk like this that CAN lead to military action.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
This puts an entirely different spin on Johnny Reb’s thread from a day or two ago. I dismissed his premise as woo, but it looks like there might be some validity to it. If the Iranians get around to blaming Israel (his primary talking point) I don’t know that they’d attack. But the Iranian government is crazy, so I wouldn’t rule it out.

JR, I apologize for being hard on your thoughts.

This thing looked like a weapon from the word go, considering how much of a hit it's done on China and how little it's done outside. Who set it off, though, that's the point that makes me wonder most.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I noticed on the big Corona thread the implication that the virus was the result of some hostile foreign force(s).

Talk of this nature, supported or unsupported is, at the very least, indicative that countries very adversely impacted have the feeling that they were "attacked."

It is talk like this that CAN lead to military action.

now that's a terrifying thought... when this first came out the first thought that came to mind was who would china strike first to save face over this hot mess.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
If China thought this was a bioweapon attack on them they would have retaliated by now. Remember the CCP started blaming us from the get go. Telling their people the US did this. Later, remember they sent their top biological/chemical warfare general to take control of Wuhan and that BSL4 lab there...the military was sent in with her. Big dot for the virus coming from their own lab. Questions are how did it get out, who did it, and was it on purpose or accidental.

They could still blame US for this and retaliate against us...but science is not on their side
And they know it.. Their own scientists have published papers on how to make such a chimera bioweapon...and two of these scientists were 'running' the Wuhan lab! That's pretty d*mining! And add in the genome/strain. The CCPs actions tell us they are lying about this.

As I've written before, China knows this is a bioweapon and so does the CDC, WHO.
 
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I noticed on the big Corona thread the implication that the virus was the result of some hostile foreign force(s).

Talk of this nature, supported or unsupported is, at the very least, indicative that countries very adversely impacted have the feeling that they were "attacked."

It is talk like this that CAN lead to military action.
"War by OTHER means . . . "

At some level, it doesn't really matter if it is merely rumored that China/Iran actually WERE attacked by an outside enemy(s) - from THEIR perspective, the Chinese/Iranian PTB can get a lot of PR mileage out of being the cause of their OWN COVID-19 misery - could be a vital strategic chess move by an elite Iranian/Chinese deep state element that knows that they are cornered and are grappling for ANY handhold that may offer THEM an opportunity to stay in power another week/month/year while deflecting responsibility onto other innocents.

In the end, if alleged Chinese/Iranian anger were to be successfully turned into overt military action, or, an attack of like-kind within CONUS/western Europe, it will be the larger J6P western/Chinese/Iranian pawn citizens who will pay the ultimate price with their extracted blood and treasure for any war decisions made by a hidden few psychopathic elites - history spells out this salient fact quite clearly.

"Hey, I have an idea! Why don't you and he fight?"™

Hunt down the REAL perps behind this viral event, and publicly reveal them to the world. SEVERAL hidden player are guilty.


intothegoodnight
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
"War by OTHER means . . . "

At some level, it doesn't really matter if it is merely rumored that China/Iran actually WERE attacked by an outside enemy(s) - from THEIR perspective, the Chinese/Iranian PTB can get a lot of PR mileage out of being the cause of their OWN COVID-19 misery - could be a vital strategic chess move by an elite Iranian/Chinese deep state element that knows that they are cornered and are clawing for ANY handhold that may offer THEM and opportunity to stay in power another week/month while deflecting responsibility onto other innocents.

In the end, if alleged Chinese/Iranian anger was successfully turned into overt military action, or, an attack of like-kind within CONUS/western Europe, it will be the larger J6P western/Chinese/Iranian pawn citizens who will pay the ultimate price with their extracted blood and treasure - history spells out this salient fact quite clearly.

"Hey, I have an idea! Why don't you and he fight?"™


intothegoodnight

Hummm...so another underlying reason for the overt deployment of the W76-2 by the US on the boomers?

ETA: With a published CEP of 100 to 300 meters, you don't need a "city killer" to take care of a lot of single targets, particularly non-hardened....
 
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mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If it were true our CDC would have been better prepared I think.

Not if it was the deep state doing it (intel community). Engineer a virus to be highly contagious but not too deadly, release it near the premier Chinese bio lab (look and infected chinese squirrel). The world blames china, the US media blames Trump. Left-wing media stokes fear (CIA), causes the US economy to falter or crash all the while screaming (to the tune of bush's fault) Trump's fault, Trump's fault, Trump's fault ..... these are people who start wars for gain.

Or it could be an early stage bioweapon that got out .... accidents happen. (highly contagious but not super deadly yet)
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Not if it was the deep state doing it (intel community). Engineer a virus to be highly contagious but not too deadly, release it near the premier Chinese bio lab (look and infected chinese squirrel). The world blames china, the US media blames Trump. Left-wing media stokes fear (CIA), causes the US economy to falter or crash all the while screaming (to the tune of bush's fault) Trump's fault, Trump's fault, Trump's fault ..... these are people who start wars for gain.

Yeah. The "slow coup" does indeed give evidence of that degree of skullduggery.

That being said, I still think the most likely explanation is that the guy incharge of disposing of the "used" lab animals at the lab in Wuhan decided to make a buck and sell them to the meat market instead of incinerating them....stupidity and greed has a much bigger track record of "success" than grand conspiracy has historically.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If China thought this was a bioweapon attack on them they would have retaliated by now. Remember the CCP started blaming us from the get go. Telling their people the US did this. Later, remember they sent their top biological/chemical warfare general to take control of Wuhan and that BSL4 lab there...the military was sent in with her. Big dot for the virus coming from their own lab. Questions are how did it get out, who did it, and was it on purpose or accidental.

They could still blame US for this and retaliate against us...but science is not on their side
And they know it.. Their own scientists have published papers on how to make such a chimera bioweapon...and two of these scientists were 'running' the Wuhan lab! That's pretty d*mining! And add in the genome/strain. The CCPs actions tell us they are lying about this.

As I've written before, China knows this is a bioweapon and so does the CDC, WHO.

This is what I meant when I would write Watching. Waiting... in my replies. I always look at things through two lenses. One is the economy. The other is the GSM. The Chinese and the Iranians know it is coming and they know how that will play out with crop loss, and economies crashing. People starving. The Chinese have a lot of people to feed. They need many less warm bodies in their commie paradise. But they need to save face while getting that done. Blame the virus they cooked up on some other country. A country that is in direct competition with China for food and everything else modern societies run on.

Would they have attacked us by now? I don't think so. Wait until we are as sick as they seem to be. When we are at the weakest then they attack. This will become a waiting game as to who gets into position first. We are too strong to attack now, we are healthy. Wait a few more weeks, then I think we will see those actions that I have been waiting for. Not something I want to happen, but that is what my tactical brain says might happen.

IMHO, Johnny Reb may turn out to be right. I'd rather wargame that out and be ready than ignore it and hope such a situation as he described just went away all on its own. War game the worst, hope for the best. China is not and never has been our friend.
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
From the beginning, the Chinese lab tech selling lab animals theory rang true to me. That leaves only the question of whether the Chinese were working on a vaccine or a weapon at the time it got loose.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
From the beginning, the Chinese lab tech selling lab animals theory rang true to me. That leaves only the question of whether the Chinese were working on a vaccine or a weapon at the time it got loose.
Working on a vaccine or a weapon aren't mutually exclusive options...
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
How does China weaken us (and our Military) faster? Cut off the supply of drugs and components for making them and feed us some pablum excuse to buy time, all the while waiting for the virus to take hold here.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
It was a while ago but I did post about the Chinese giving the Russians this bug they were working on in their Wuhan lab for the Russians to help work on the development a vaccine for it.
 

Murt

Veteran Member
It was a while ago but I did post about the Chinese giving the Russians this bug they were working on in their Wuhan lab for the Russians to help work on the development a vaccine for it.

if the russians did develop a vaccine I have my doubts that they would share it
 
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