HEALTH Invisible Surgery: Appendix Removed Through Patient's Vagina

PHD

Veteran Member
Invisible Surgery: Appendix Removed Through Patient's Vagina

Breaking new ground in what many surgeons consider the next frontier in minimally invasive surgery, Yale School of Medicine and Yale-New Haven Hospital surgeon Kurt Roberts, M.D., successfully performed an appendectomy with no abdominal incision. The appendix was removed through a small incision in the patient's vagina.

This advanced technique, known as an "invisible incision" appendectomy, left the patient with no external scar, no damage to the abdominal wall and minimal postoperative pain, thereby allowing for an almost immediate return to normal activity.

"Without incisions in the abdomen, there is no opportunity to develop surgery-related hernias or wound infections. Patients who undergo procedures such as these are expected to recover and resume most normal activities within just a few days," explained Roberts.

Roberts, an assistant professor of surgery at Yale, said there are some reports of this surgery being successfully performed outside of the United States but that previous attempts within the U.S. always necessitated at least one abdominal incision to either help remove the appendix or insert a camera to guide the surgery.

The operation performed by Roberts is the latest advance in a growing surgical field called Natural Orifice Transluminal Endoscopic Surgery (NOTES), in which surgery is performed through the body's natural openings such as the vagina. This approach is becoming increasingly popular because it is even less invasive than traditional laparoscopic surgery, which still requires an abdominal incision.

Because of the ease of recovery and low risk of complications, Robert Udelsman, M.D., chief of the Yale School of Medicine Department of Surgery, said invisible incision is the next wave in minimally invasive surgery. “There may be wide applications for the removal of other organs, including the gallbladder, ovaries and fallopian tubes. This and other minimally invasive approaches result in kinder, gentler surgery."

"Unfortunately," Udelsman said, "there is not a comparable approach for men, at least for the appendix. One could insert a telescope through the mouth and stomach and make a small incision to reach the abdominal cavity and appendix. But this would violate the gastrointestinal tract, increasing the risk of complications." He added, "The ultimate goal with every surgical procedure is the safety of the patient."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090114203639.htm
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, I was running channels one night and stumbled on a program where they were doing breast implants through the navel. Next they'll be doing brain surgery through the nose.
 

Rescuedog

Inactive
I would be very careful about having this kind of surgery. If there is an infection or cancer cells involved, the surgeon would be dragging those cells through the body while removing the organ. An open operation not only allows a better view of what exactly is going on but allows for more efficient removal of the organ.

RD
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Some people make the brain surgery easier by having that part of their anatomy up their arse.
 

FarmerJohn

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"Without incisions in the abdomen, there is no opportunity to develop surgery-related hernias or wound infections. Patients who undergo procedures such as these are expected to recover and resume most normal activities within just a few days," explained Roberts.

Reducing risk is the point of doing it this way. Abdominal skin is normally harder to keep clean than the vagina. (I'm jealous!)

FJ
 

Anrol5

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Reducing risk is the point of doing it this way. Abdominal skin is normally harder to keep clean than the vagina. (I'm jealous!)

FJ

Possibly true, but IVF requires the doctor to insert a very long needle through the vaginal wall to remove the eggs from the ovary. The needle is thin.

One in 10,00 women go onto get abdominal infections. Most women go to hospital, they do an Ultrasound, and the medics say everything is OK. The women go home.

The information I was given, says that the best way to diagnose an infection, is to use an MRI scan, ultra sound is unlikely to discover an infection. MRIs are expensive so rarely done, and many doctors do not know the importance of doing an MRI.

A few days after being sent home the women come back to hospital with incredibly high fevers, pain, whatever. Usually the only way to cure this to remove *all* infected tissue - the ovaries, the fallopian tubes, the womb, and part of the bowel. The women is often in intensive care for weeks, and can be in hospital for up to a year.

The woman, who undergoing IVF, ends up sterile, and usually has such long term health problems she is *never* able to adopt. The woman suffers permanent long term health problems.

So this procedure may have a lower risk but is *not* risk free.

Anrol

PS Why did I learn about this? Well in the UK there is an the authority, that decides is an what treatment patients are allowed, or banned. The HFEA announced a "One (embryo) at a time" policy, so I started to look at the science behind it.

Yes one embryo at a time is good for the unborn child, or neonate, but it is it of questionable value for the woman who is trying for a baby / pregnant. And if you look at the woman's family, and in particular any existing children, there seem to be few benefits, and an awful lot of negatives.

When I read the HFEA's report, supposedly based on scientific evidence, the HFEA had over egged the complication rates for pregnant women and their children(so much so, women who naturally conceive twins are asking for terminations!), glossed over the complications women suffer when undergoing IVF, and completely ignored the effects on the woman's family. And the complications that men suffer, including the way men can be disabled by infertility treatment, does not occur to anyone. Few people know about the problems men suffer!

Doctors try to avoid anyone undergoing a general anaesthetic, but the HFEA is pushing women into multiple cycles of IVF, where each and every cycle of IVF carries 4 times the risk of death to that of a general anaesthetic.
 

sy32478

Veteran Member
I had my appendix removed through my navel about 5 years ago. The recovery time was very short and the scarring from the two other "observation ports" have almost disappeared.
 

JRM

Contributing Member
This isn't all that unusual actually. Why just yesterday, I was at the dentist to have my teeth cleaned...
 

brandyh29

Inactive
You can have your tubes tied through your naval, they've been doing it this way for several years.
If I ever needed an appendectomy, I'd rather do it this way than traditional surgery. I have a heart murmur and the thought of being put all the way under with anesthesia scares the crap out of me.
 

Micro

Veteran Member
For men (or women) are also starting to do it through the stomach wall and out the esophagus... So yes that means they can pull your gallbladder or appendix out through your mouth... nice huh.:kk1:

Heaven forbid you have a little scar on your perfect belly.:screw:
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Well, I wouldn't allow a doc to do this. It's disgusting.

What they're doing in Britain to IVF patients is also despicable. Those cycles of IVF take a DREADFUL toll on your body as well as your emotions.
 

Amaryllis

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I'll admit I didn't read past the first paragragh. Having said that..... cut me wide open, PLEASE, I wouldn't want any part of this procedure. :shkr:

""Unfortunately," Udelsman said, "there is not a comparable approach for men" (and let's hope they don't come up with one!)
 

blueberry

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Well, I was running channels one night and stumbled on a program where they were doing breast implants through the navel. Next they'll be doing brain surgery through the nose.

My boss got breast implants - she just has a little scar under each arm, where they made the incision to put them in.

After reading all this, I am very glad I have already had my appendix and gall bladder removed. :kk1:
 
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