INTL Intl/Pol - UK reportedly tells Trump he cannot meet with Brexit architect Nigel Farage

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Well this could very well get real interesting....Particularly when you tell Trump he can't do something....

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-meet-with-brexit-architect-nigel-farage.html

14 hours ago

UK reportedly tells Trump he cannot meet with Brexit architect Nigel Farage

Adam Shaw By Adam Shaw | Fox News

The U.K. government has reportedly told President Trump he must not meet Brexit architect and former U.K. Independence Party leader Nigel Farage when Trump visits the U.K. later this month.

The U.K. Daily Telegraph, citing a source within the British government, reports that 10 Downing Street made it clear that Trump “must not meet Farage” during his working visit to the U.K. on July 13.
Trump has embraced Farage, who is also a Fox News contributor, and called him “the man behind Brexit” during the 2016 campaign.

Farage told Fox News he would not comment on any conversations he had with the White House but said the Telegraph report was “utterly consistent” with past behavior from the U.K. government.

“The one thing they do not want me doing is having a photograph with the U.S. president when he’s in London with both of us saying ‘Brexit is a great idea, why doesn’t the government just get on with it?’”

A Downing Street spokesman referred Fox News to comments it made to the Telegraph, saying it was "not even aware of a meeting being requested" and that "either way we are not trying to stop one."

Farage played a key role as UKIP leader in putting pressure on then-Prime Minister David Cameron’s government to call for the 2016 referendum on whether the U.K. should leave the European Union, and also for securing a win for the “Leave” campaign.

In particular, Farage was key in promoting limiting immigration as a defining issue of the “Leave” campaign, just as then-candidate Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign was doing the same.

Since the Brexit result, Farage has been a thorn in the government’s side as he has repeatedly blasted the government for dragging its feet on implementing Brexit, and for being too soft in negotiating with Brussels.

“Number 10, the establishment Conservative Party, have a pathological hatred of me,” Farage told Fox News on Friday. “They see me as being the reason they had to offer a referendum, they see me as being one of the major reasons they lost the referendum and now they have to implement something they don’t believe in. They hate it and they’ll never forgive me until the day I die.”

Trump ruffled feathers in November 2016 when, shortly after his election win, he suggested Farage as British ambassador to the U.S.
“He would do a great job,” he tweeted.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Many people
would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

7:22 PM - Nov 21, 2016
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Farage told Fox News that the reported red line from the British government reflects not just a nervousness about Farage, but also about Trump.

“I think they’re nervous about what Trump is going to say about NATO, about Brexit. I think they’re very nervous indeed,” he said.

Trump’s visit is expected to be met with significant protests from left-wing activists, promoted by members of the left-wing Labour Party who have repeatedly called for Trump to be uninvited.

UK PRIME MINISTER MAY UNDER PRESSURE TO CANCEL TRUMP VISIT OVER MIGRANT CONTROVERSY

Last month, Prime Minister Theresa May was grilled by MPs with calls to scrap the visit, particularly after the controversy surrounding illegal immigration and the separation of families at the U.S.-Mexico border. While she said “the pictures of children being held in what appear to be cages are deeply disturbing,” she defended the Trump visit.

“We have a special and longstanding relationship with the United States and I think it is right -- there will be a range of issues I will be discussing with President Trump ... and I think it’s important that we make sure that when we see the president of the United States here in the United Kingdom we’re able to have those discussions,” she said.

Adam Shaw is a reporter covering U.S. and European politics for Fox News.. He can be reached here.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I wonder what other orders that the UK will give President Trump.
Maybe different hair, a more servile attitude.
Or maybe President Trump could cancel his visit in the face of these rude demands.
SS
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
Someone actually told our President that he "must not meet" with someone? Or talk to them??? Are they aware of the Trump Effect?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
OK, this is a bit more complicated than it looks; it isn't so much that Trump was told he "can't meet" with Farage, it was that Farage - who is a member of the Prime Minister's Cabinet was told, "HE could not meet with Trump."

I think this was a dumb move on Teresa Mae's part as it is now making a vast mountain out of what would likely have been a small molehill of a photo opp; Mae can forbid any member of her cabinet from engaging in what is seen as a political act; and she might have a secondary reason for doing so.

It is no big secret that Farage is not well liked in Downing Street and was appointed to his position partly under pressure because not sticking him somewhere after the Brexit win might have split the already crumbling Torry Party in two.

But if he "defies" an order from the Prime Minister and meets with Trump anyway without her permission then she can demand his resignation; that is how things work in the UK system.

So it isn't just Donald's pride on the line here, Farage can "leave government" and become just another MP and still meet with Trump, but unless Ms. Mae changes her mind he can't meet him as a Cabinet member and keep his job.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I saw this story and decided against posting it due to how idiotic it is.

You are seriously going to try and tell the most powerful man in the world who he can/cannot talk to?

Riiiiight...
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I saw this story and decided against posting it due to how idiotic it is.

You are seriously going to try and tell the most powerful man in the world who he can/cannot talk to?

Riiiiight...

As Melodi pointed out, the repercussions will NOT fall on DJT.
 

cooter

cantankerous old coot
it would be priceless,

if Donald, just has him flown over here and they meet somewhere in the states or in the whitehouse, just to rub it in, of you cant tell me who I can and cannot talk to, ;)
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
OK, this is a bit more complicated than it looks; it isn't so much that Trump was told he "can't meet" with Farage, it was that Farage - who is a member of the Prime Minister's Cabinet was told, "HE could not meet with Trump."

I think this was a dumb move on Teresa Mae's part as it is now making a vast mountain out of what would likely have been a small molehill of a photo opp; Mae can forbid any member of her cabinet from engaging in what is seen as a political act; and she might have a secondary reason for doing so.

It is no big secret that Farage is not well liked in Downing Street and was appointed to his position partly under pressure because not sticking him somewhere after the Brexit win might have split the already crumbling Torry Party in two.

But if he "defies" an order from the Prime Minister and meets with Trump anyway without her permission then she can demand his resignation; that is how things work in the UK system.

So it isn't just Donald's pride on the line here, Farage can "leave government" and become just another MP and still meet with Trump, but unless Ms. Mae changes her mind he can't meet him as a Cabinet member and keep his job.

And if Farage makes a "big thing" about resigning his post in the Cabinet to revert back to being an MP just so he can meet with Trump I'd suspect it would be a bigger mess for Mae at this point than if he did meet with Trump.
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
i really like trump[ saying the US will no longer be the worlds piggy bank. about damn time. and THAT is what they are all pissed / scared about. the US is no longer going to carry them. when we stop subsidizing them their socialist paradises will really show the cracks. if NATO is to protect europe from the communists, then let europe fund their defense.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
_______________
Jazzy, you are absolutely SPOT-ON! *WE* have been subsidizing their socialist policies for decades. If we stop, their present entitlements cannot be funded, and they damn well know it. The US taxpayer has been subsidizing the world for decades. Tome for that to stop. Past time in fact. WAY past time.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
What if he refused to tender his resignation?
She could remove him (if I understand correctly) however that might lead to a "no confidence vote" in the current government.

The current "government" of Ms. Mae is barely hanging on by a hangnail and that only because they brought the most conservative of the Ulster Unionist" parties into government, and they kept threatening to leave every time they don't like something (like being told they need to work with everyone else in Northern Ireland to get their government up an running again).

Even if they avoided a new election (that Labor might very well win) Ms. Mae might be "forced out of office," and a new party leader selected by the Tories who would then BE Prime Minister.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
And if Farage makes a "big thing" about resigning his post in the Cabinet to revert back to being an MP just so he can meet with Trump I'd suspect it would be a bigger mess for Mae at this point than if he did meet with Trump.

Exactly, that is one reason I said this is a huge mistake on Mae's part; she has once again taken a small concern and blown it up into a giant mess; she seems to be really good at that.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I have to agree with Trumps stance on the NATO issue. I also think he should find some back channel to setup a meeting with Nigel.
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
As Melodi and Night Driver have pointed out, this is Nigel's decision to make, his future to determine. If he does meet with our president, IMHO it ought to be in the daylight - for public view and transparency (that greatly overworked word).
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I must APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE AS i MADE A REALLY BAD MISTAKE!!!

I have no excuse other than being in a hurry this morning and trusting my memory and not looking things up.

I had confused Boris Johnson with Nigel Farage

Nigel has been in and out as an MP in Parliment but it is BORIS who is the FOREIGN SECRETARY - Nigel was the head of the UKIP INDEPENDENCE PARTY, Boris is the Foreign Secretary in Mae's cabinet.

I formally apologize to all the Brits here, especially Richard; this was really dumb of me.

On the other hand, it really does change the picture back to Trump and I agree; how "dare" Mae says he "can't" meet with a politician not directly in her government cabinet?

This story is going to get really interesting now...

I don't have a hat to eat, but I am now ducking for cover and going to do some knitting...
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I wonder if the Brits will ever demand basic human rights like we have assured to us in our first Ten Amendments.
Again - for the second time today....oh well.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
I must APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE AS i MADE A REALLY BAD MISTAKE!!!

I have no excuse other than being in a hurry this morning and trusting my memory and not looking things up.

I had confused Boris Johnson with Nigel Farage

Nigel has been in and out as an MP in Parliment but it is BORIS who is the FOREIGN SECRETARY - Nigel was the head of the UKIP INDEPENDENCE PARTY, Boris is the Foreign Secretary in Mae's cabinet.

I formally apologize to all the Brits here, especially Richard; this was really dumb of me.

On the other hand, it really does change the picture back to Trump and I agree; how "dare" Mae says he "can't" meet with a politician not directly in her government cabinet?

This story is going to get really interesting now...

I don't have a hat to eat, but I am now ducking for cover and going to do some knitting...

Neither hat and nor crow from me, ma'am.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
I must APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE AS i MADE A REALLY BAD MISTAKE!!!

I have no excuse other than being in a hurry this morning and trusting my memory and not looking things up.

I had confused Boris Johnson with Nigel Farage

Nigel has been in and out as an MP in Parliment but it is BORIS who is the FOREIGN SECRETARY - Nigel was the head of the UKIP INDEPENDENCE PARTY, Boris is the Foreign Secretary in Mae's cabinet.

I formally apologize to all the Brits here, especially Richard; this was really dumb of me.

On the other hand, it really does change the picture back to Trump and I agree; how "dare" Mae says he "can't" meet with a politician not directly in her government cabinet?

This story is going to get really interesting now...

I don't have a hat to eat, but I am now ducking for cover and going to do some knitting...


nevermind my question! i saw this after i posted
 
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