PREP If FEMA is buying them, maybe YOU want one?

[ainitfunny]

The BIG 2.5 GALLON THERMETTE is the BIG NEWER one someone in the know told me FEMA bought a lot of. They big one is around $400 according to the person who told me. She said she used it when the power was out for hot water for bathing and dishes and otherwise. USES just about anything for fuel from leaves, twigs, cardboard, paper etc. It is solid copper.

http://www.thermette.com/thermette_new4-04.htm

I have BOTH this (the small version) AND a KELLY KETTLE. This beats a Kelly Kettle all to heck. The kelly kettle is EASY to burn yourself with and requires TWO hands to use. Everyone who has tried both has preferred the THERMETTE. The thermette also COMES WITH the accessories to cook other stuff with, but the KELLY KETTLE company makes you buy those accessories separately.

Now that I have seen it I have the big one on my wish list.

 

[dissimulo]

Pretty cool. It has all the hallmarks of a great prep item.

 

[Flippper]

The price is rediculous.

 

[ainitfunny]

It is hand made out of solid copper. You get what you pay for. I figure that soon, the paper money will be worthless anyway(more from outright COLLAPSE of the economy than inflation) and the price COULD go to a thousand or more if it is an item in demand and the money is worthless in the future.

 

[night driver]

Flipper, how much is 8.5 pounds of copper?????


How much is the labor to form and assemble this???



400 is about right.

Though I didn't see a price for the big one, just the 92 bux fo the smaller one....

 

[Double_A]

bought one a couple years ago after seeing a story here. At that time the 2.2L size was on sale for $75.

These are made to last a lifetime. Not some cheap Wallyworld special at a great price, that is tossed out after a year.

You can buy cheap crap over and over again or buy quality once, it's your choice.

 

[China Connection]

FEMA is driving the price up maybe

Thermette - Brief History of a New Zealand Invention
For New Zealand soldiers fighting the deserts of North Africa the Thermette became a standard and treasured piece of equipment and earned the nickname the `Benghasi Boiler'.
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Storm kettle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The thermette, from New Zealand, is somewhat different in appearance and construction. It works on the same principle of internal upwardly narrowing chimney to create the efficient ...
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The Jack Mountain Bushcraft Blog " Blog Archive " Thermette vs. Kelly
Yesterday a friend stopped by who recently purchased a 1/2 gallon capacity Thermette, which is a similar type of device from New Zealand made of copper.
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Boundary Waters Blog
For New Zealand soldiers fighting the deserts of North Africa the Thermette became a standard and treasured piece of equipment and earned the nickname the `Benghasi Boiler'.
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The top ten craziest things you can't do without when you go camping
Welcome to the Thursday Top Ten. Every Thursday the Morning ... The Thermette is a New Zealand thing and is the quickest thing in the world for boiling water.
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[China Connection]

Here it was $92 plus shipping

Here it was $92 plus shipping

http://www.thermette.com/

 

[dissimulo]

There appear to be two sizes. The one in ainitfunny's link is 2.5 gallons. The one they are selling for $92 is smaller.

 

[China Connection]

I think they are made in China now

I think they are made in China now and are not as well made as before.

 

[Mr. Mason]

Looks nice. But I would be VERY wary is it's made in China (lead solder)

 

[Double_A]

Thermette is Hand made in New Zealand.

 

[Grantbo]

Looks like the bottom of a still.

 

[ainitfunny]

I think they are made in China now and are not as well made as before.

PLEASE DO NOT SO CASUALLY DESTROY THE REPUTATION OF A QUALITY PRODUCT WITHOUT OFFERING AT LEAST A SHRED OF PROOF THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT PURE MADE UP BULLSH*T JUST TO IMPRESS PEOPLE!!

 

[Double_A]

I believe CC is saying they make a copy in China, not that Thermette is made there

 

[Satanta]

There was a link on TB from someone to a DIY stove on Youtube that looks like that but made from tin and a bit cheaper. Can't find the stove on Youtube tho.

 

[China Connection]

I am not into making up bullsh-t

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Philosophizing with a Hammer
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[Tiberius797]

There was a link on TB from someone to a DIY stove on Youtube that looks like that but made from tin and a bit cheaper. Can't find the stove on Youtube tho.

It was called the Rocket Stove. Someone did post it on this board. It was easy to make and I did research it....It would only cost around $13 to make. A lot cheaper than $400 and it does the same job.

 

[KerryAnn]

How does this stove compare? http://www.woodgascampstove.com/

 

[night driver]

How does this stove compare? http://www.woodgascampstove.com/

That is a stove in the Zipstove family (uses battery opperated fan) and does NOT boil water without a pot.

the BEAUTY of the Thermette (and the Kelly Kettle) is that they heat water in the jacket of the stove, so other cooking is possible (or not) depending on what you want to do, tea or dinner and tea and washing water....

 

[baygoldbug]

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http://www.importgenius.com/importers/thermette-north-america.html

SHIPPER
LIU PENG
#909 112 BUILD SHAOYANGJU BEILI CHAOYANG DIST
BEIJING P.R.CHINA

CONSIGNEE
THERMETTE NORTH AMERICA,INC.
1316 LINCOLN PL HE.,
RENTON,WA 98056U.S.A.


NOTIFY PARTY
THERMETTE NORTH AMERICA,INC
1316 LINCOLN PL HE.,
RENTON,WA 98056U.S.A.

VOYAGE NO.00167
ARRIVAL DATE 2008-06-14
PORT OF LOADING Dagu/Tanggu
PORT OF DISCHARGE Los Angeles, California


PARTICULARS (1)
DECLARATION OF GOODS (2) OOLU7227945
1 CAS COPPER OUTDOORS KETTLE 130 KG


.

 

[GingerN]

Looks nice. But I would be VERY wary is it's made in China (lead solder)

completely off topic, but Ron, honey, WHAT did you do to your avatar? That thing is scary....you know I luv ya.....


I like those Thermette things, and they look handy, but honestly, would a steel milk bucket or a galvanized bucket/washtub that was sitting on a metal plate on a stand of some sort not work just as well?

 

[Maranatha]

I want one!! Their ad says in big letters, "Hand made in New Zealand", but evidence above says it is now made in China. Maybe I'll try that Rocket stove.

MARANATHA!

 

[LoupGarou]

Looks like the bottom of a still.

Actually, with the screw on lid on the top, you could run some tubing out from there, add a chiller coil set and use it to distill water for use when needed (medical, battery fill...).

I have a stainless steel tank for that purpose myself, because when a lead acid battery gets thirsty, it gets demanding...

Loup

 

[Terriannie]

The Thermette really sounds fantastic Aititfunny but I wonder if the innovativeness and the fact that it's made of Copper would be a temptation for theft especially in the dead of night? If things really get bad it might even be an object to fight over as a superior source of heat.

Maybe some sort of disguise would be worth looking into.

 

[Caplock50]

Hmmm, remember the old gas hot water heaters? You know, the ones with the exhaust pipe up the middle of the tank. Remove the outer, thin metal and insulation covering; cut it in half...and you'll have two of these things to play with. And they were made for the purpose...heating water with a flame.

 

[Double_A]

Too bad I don't have a picture of an old copper water heater my grandmother had as a kid. Don't remember how it heated water but it must have held 30 gallons and the outer skin anyway was all copper sheet.

 

[China Connection]

PYRO-Eco Stove for Cooking on Rural Areas

PYRO-Eco Stove for Cooking on Rural Areas

Go to link and have a look at this unit:


http://www.pyroenergen.com/articles08/eco-rocket-stove.htm


Another unit here


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=797446823830833401



another


http://tomgreen.com/blogs/bornfromt...er-flame-and-smoke-using-only-three-tin-cans/



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[Bushcamp]

Gee wiz, am I the only one that thinks AIF should apologize to CC?

Nice 'kettle' - I'll stick to my 10 liter aluminium kettle on the fire for the moment though. Maybe look into making one of these myself later.

 

[Jumpy Frog]

Gee wiz, am I the only one that thinks AIF should apologize to CC?

Nice 'kettle' - I'll stick to my 10 liter aluminium kettle on the fire for the moment though. Maybe look into making one of these myself later.

I was waiting for politness and/or daylight to persevere.

 

[Bushcamp]

I think politeness has gone down the crapper worldwide. There's no more courtesy, no more politeness, no more good maaners. Then again, maybe I'm just grumpy today.

 

[Jumpy Frog]

I think politeness has gone down the crapper worldwide. There's no more courtesy, no more politeness, no more good maaners. Then again, maybe I'm just grumpy today.

I hear you..............FWIW, I was asked to change my moniker to Grumpy Frog.

 

[Rastech]

Apparently Kelly Kettle are working on a stainless steel version which should be out in a few months, for those worried about aluminium.

Personally I'm not worried about the aluminium one I have, as I'm hardly using it every day, and the water I'm boiling in it is hardly in contact with the aluminium very long, unless I'm using that heated water as a storage heater overnight (it really helps keep the chill off in the tent - if it gets bitterly cold enough to wake me up, then I'll just light the thing again and boil the water again), and that water gets chucked in the bowl in the morning for a wash and a shave anyway, while the fresh water is boiling for the tea.

As a biker I have limited storage and weight capacity, so the aluminium one is perfect for me, and I reckon that also makes it a perfect 'bug out' item.

Yes for less emergency type uses, other things of a more permanent nature are far more suitable. Frankly even if the Kelly Kettle was made of copper, I would care less, as the thing isn't 'ever' going to get heavy daily use for anything other than the short term. For longer term use I'd be looking to make something with clay, bricks, cast iron, steel, or whatever's available.

Is it really worth getting paranoid about a cooking device made out of aluminium, that will get so little real use, even during periods of an emergency, that anyone would pay possibly even a substantial premium NOT to have the lightweight advantages?

You aren't talking about leaving your food in the thing directly cooking for periods of 15 - 30 minutes or so, after all? More often than not, in my case, the thing boils the water in about 3 minutes, then that water goes into a stainless steel flask to continue the cooking/boiling for as much as hours.

Total PER YEAR when touring, I suppose, would be no more than 120 cups of tea/coffee, then no more than 60 meals (flask cooked rice, pasta, noodle type elements of meals done with water boiled in the kettle, and dehydrated stuff cooked to go with it).

Most of the elderly people in my family lived well into their 90's (e.g. great grandmother lived until she was 99, just missed 100 by falling downstairs and breaking her hip, one grandmother went downhill at 93, after falling off a chair when she was tiling the kitchen ceiling, etc), and used aluminium cookware and kettles all their lives.

I can think of ONE member of the family that got alzheimers, and she was addicted to goosberry pies, and made one every day. Now I don't know if it was something to do with the goosberries, or whether it was the acid in the fruit reacting with the aluminium pan when she was preserving them, but she still made it to 95 or 96.

Yeah right, I'm really worried about aluminium.

 

[LittleJohn]

Rastech,

What size of Kelly Kettle do you have?

I'm ordering one today, but I'm torn between what size to get.

Do you see any pros or cons to the different sizes?

ETA: The three sizes are:

• 2.5 pint
• 1.75 pint
• 1 pint

Little John

 

[mistaken1]

I'll wait to get mine when fema hands them out.

 

[ainitfunny]

Gee wiz, am I the only one that thinks AIF should apologize to CC?

Nice 'kettle' - I'll stick to my 10 liter aluminium kettle on the fire for the moment though. Maybe look into making one of these myself later.

You are right. China Connection, I am sorry, I was apparently wrong. I relied on the information provided on the website and required proof of any challenge to it. I am still waiting for a response from Thermette as to why they still have it advertised as made in New Zealand. If there still is any choice, because of QUALITY, not so much as lead, I would want one made in New Zealand.

As for all the hullabaloo about lead, I come from a generation that lived with lead EVERYWHERE we turned. For 200 years ALL homes were plumbed with pipes joined with lead, all paint was lead based, lead was everywhere. And we WEREN'T "learning disabled" or brain damaged. The literacy rate and general intelligence of the population was MUCH, MUCH,higher during the HEIGHT of public lead exposure.

Strange as it seems, it is the TRUTH that cancer rates, asthma rates, illegal drug use, school dropout rates, crime, divorce rates, senility and seemingly every other public health concern SOARED after we removed or radically reduced public exposure to DDT, LEAD, ASBESTOS, MERCURY and TOBACCO.

 

[Rastech]

I went for the biggest one, as much as anything for the increased volume of water when acting as a slow releaser of heat when in storage heater mode.

It's turned out to be ok as I can just fill 2 flasks when using them for slow cooking, and 2:1 cold to boiling is just about enough for a nice warm shower.

I was tempted by the medium size though, and it would have left a bit more room in the motorcycle pannier (I tend to load up way to much).

 

[Double_A]

Since I bought one in Nov 2005 I sent them an email as well asking about country of manufacture.

The box on mine says,

"Manufactured in New Zealand by: Kestrel Developments LTD. P.O. Box 13-598 Onehunga, Auckland"

 

[shane]

The box on mine says,

"Manufactured in New Zealand by: Kestrel Developments LTD. P.O. Box 13-598 Onehunga, Auckland"

OK, well let's hope that's not just where the box was made.

I'm just kidding, of course, but reminded me of some of that plated gold jewelry
sold in malls and flea markets that says solid 18kt gold right there on the clasp,
but folks don't realize that's for just the clasp.

Got God, Grub, Guns & Gold?
Panic Early, Beat the Rush!

- Shane

 

[Double_A]

OK, well let's hope that's not just where the box was made.

I'm just kidding, of course, but reminded me of some of that plated gold jewelry
sold in malls and flea markets that says solid 18kt gold right there on the clasp,
but folks don't realize that's for just the clasp.

Got God, Grub, Guns & Gold?
Panic Early, Beat the Rush!

- Shane

Could very well be only the box. That's why I sent them an email (which I've not gotten a reply).

If these are made in China with their labor rates these guys are making a killing.